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« on: August 03, 2012, 04:48:11 PM »
Niay nindot nga blog entry mahitungod sa mga argumento sa RH Bill.

http://theignoredgenius.blogspot.com/2012/08/mga-punto-sa-rh-bill-sa-totoo-lang.html

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« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2012, 06:54:51 PM »
sayang.  tagalog.  aherm, budlay basahon. :-X
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« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2012, 11:45:05 AM »

Hahahaha. Na, antosan aron makasabot tas ijang punto. ;D

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BALITANG RH BILL: Abp Villegas openly assails PNoy’s RH bill support

MANILA, August 4, 2012—Despite his ties to the Aquino Family, Lingayen, Dagupan Archbishop Socrates Villegas today reminded President Benigno Simeon Aquino III that his administration’s “Kung walang corrupt, walang mahirap” slogan should not mean to say “kung walang anak, walang mahirap.”

In a message to the youth, read by Henrietta de Villa during the prayer power rally against the Reproductive Health Bill at EDSA shrine, Villegas said it is corruption that the government should cure, not nurse.

“Corruption is the cancer of the Philippines that prevents us from growing. When President Aquino called us his boss, we cheered, when he banned wang-wang in the street and moral wang-wang in the bureaucracy, we followed his vision.

“[But,] My dear youth, contraception is corruption. The use of government and taxpayers’ money to give out contraceptive pills is corruption,” Villegas said.

Although he was not physically present during the anti-RH bill rally spearheaded by the CBCP, Villegas made his presence felt when he also reminded the Aquino government to focus on getting rid of corrupt government officials, not of unborn babies through the promotion of artificial contraception.

“A culture of contraception looks at babies as reasons for poverty. Birth control, they say, means more food, more classrooms, more houses and better health for mothers. If more babies are the cause of poverty, are we now saying, ‘kung walang anak, walang mahirap?”

“It doesn’t rhyme because it is not correct. We can have more classrooms, more food, more jobs if we would be less corrupt. Send out the corrupt official, not the baby,” he told the youth, as if telling Aquino what to do.

Villegas vowed to join the fight against the passage of the RH bill in Congress, saying the fight is more to correct the misconception that the children is a mistake and not a blessing.

“My dear youth, your birth is not a mistake, your birth was God’s gift to us your elders. You are not the problem, you are our blessing. The problem is the corruption of your elders, your elders must change for your future can be brighter.

“I am standing to defend you. We are fighting the error because you might be misled. We are battling against corruption because we know it can harm your soul, believe me, contraception harms your soul,” he added.

Villegas subtly reminded the government that if the RH bill is passed into law under the Aquino administration, Aquino’s legacy will be a “contraceptive generation, which will eventually give birth to an abortion generation.”

“If a contraceptive pill is to be considered an essential medicine, what sickness is it curing? Is pregnancy a sickness? Why is it that women get sick with cancer after taking the contraceptive pill? My dear youth, contraception, makes healthy people sick,” he added.

The bishop also clarified to the youth that the Church is not being “autistic” about the issue on artificial contraception nor being insensitive to the signs of the time.

“When we teach you that contraception is corruption, we are not being insensitive to the challenge of modernity. We are just being protective of you because it can destroy you sooner than you think.

“Artificial contraception could open the door for moral infidelity and a general lowering of standard. We your elders do not want you to follow the path to moral corruption,” he added.

Villegas also warned government economic advisers that population control will not make the Philippines a tiger economy in Asia.

“We want to be a tiger economy in Asia like our neighbors but what is a tiger without a teeth? What is progress without our laughing children? For whom do we envision progress? What is victory at the expense of the mortal soul?” he asked.

Though he did not direct his message to President Aquino, the prelate vowed to fight anyone who will push for the passage of the RH Bill.

“We shall fight contraception or we will perish as a Godly nation. Youth of the Philippines, because I love you, I will fight contraception. This battle is for you and I fight for the love of you,” Villegas added.

Archbishop Villegas was a staunch supporter and friend of President Aquino’s mother, Corazon Aquino, since the EDSA People Power Revolution.

Other bishops present during the prayer power rally against the RH Bill at EDSA Shrine today were Bishops Jose Oliveros of Malolos, Pablo David of Infanta, Gabriel Reyes of Antipolo, Ramon Arguelles of Lipa, and Leo Tumulak of the Military Ordinariate. (YouthPinoy)

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« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2012, 11:55:06 AM »
The Pros and Cons
Some basic things about the RH Bill, clearer and simpler
(aside from reading the whole text of RH Bill No. 5043, the latest version of which is now the RH Bill No. 4244)

what it is, in short:

It is meant to support responsible parenthood.

why some sectors are against it, in short:

"Responsible parenthood" is a disguise for encouraging contraception and the distribution of contraceptives, using taxpayers' money.

The Pros:

The Philippine government (or its authorities) in general, as led by the palace (aka the president)

20 Philippine government agencies (through their heads, naturally)

The United Nations, through the World Health Organization (WHO), UN Population Fund (UNFPA), and the UN Children's Fund

Legislative authors of the Bill and other legislators

Countless faceless men and women

The Cons:

Primarily the Catholic Church

Other legislators

Countless faceless men and women

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« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2012, 12:54:22 PM »
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- enactment of the RH bill would help prevent the rise of urban poverty

-"The current high economic growth of more than 5 percent per year promises to lift millions of Filipinos out of poverty. But hopes of future prosperity could turn to dust if the country is not able to deal with the population growth by giving men and women access to the information and means to freely and responsibly exercise their human right to have just the number of children they want." - UN (WHO, UNFPA, and the UN Children's Fund)

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As early as 1966, Nobel Prize winner Simon Kuznets’ research has shown that there is insignificant empirical association between population growth rates and output per capita (economic growth).  Rather, it is the rate at which technology grows and the ability of the population to employ these new technologies efficiently and widely that permit economic progress. 

Kuznets saw that the basic obstacles to economic growth arise from the limited capabilities of the institutions (political, social, legal, cultural, economic) to adjust.  He argued instead that a more rapid population growth, if properly managed, will promote economic development through a positive impact on the society’s state of knowledge.  His findings have been confirmed by similar studies by the US National Research Council (1986), the UN Population Fund Consultative Meeting of Economists (1992), Eric Hanushek and Ludger Wößmann (2007), among others. (http://fvdb.wordpress.com/)

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« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2012, 02:18:21 PM »
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The RH bill is constitutional. It maintains unconditional fealty to Section 12 of Article II on State Policies which pertinently provides: “It (the State) shall equally protect the life of the mother and the life of the unborn from conception.” (Congressman Edcel Lagman, RH Bill sponsor, excerpt from http://www.edcellagman.com.ph/)

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So patent and non-debatable is the constitutional offense.  Sec. 12 of Article II of the Constitution provides: “The State recognizes the sanctity of family life and shall protect and strengthen the family as a basic autonomous social institution. It shall equally protect the life of the mother and the life of the unborn from conception.  The natural and primary right and duty of parents in the rearing of the youth for civic efficiency and the development of moral character shall receive the support of the Government.”

Under this provision, the State is the constitutional protector of conception, just as parents are the primary educators of their children.  As such, the State cannot be a party to any program of contraception. The RH bill, on the other hand, makes the State the first provider of contraception and sterilization——-the first and ultimate preventer of conception.  It also makes the State the primary educator of children. (Francisco Tatad, former senator, excerpt from http://manilastandardtoday.com/)

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« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2012, 06:58:10 PM »
con: there's archbishop socrates villegas with his stand againt the rh bill (reply #3 by taga tigbao, this thread)...

pro: and here's the stand of another cleric, jesuit fr joaquin bernas, a constitutionalist and former president of ateneo de manila university:

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RH bill: Don’t burn the house to roast a pig

Fr. Joaquin G. Bernas S.J.
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A little over a year ago, or on May 22, 2011 to be exact, I wrote an article for the Inquirer titled “My stand on the RH bill.” With the vote on the Reproductive Health (RH) bill approaching, people have  asked me whether my stand on the bill has changed. Let me restate the salient points I made then.

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« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2012, 06:59:01 PM »
First, let me start by saying that I adhere to the teaching of the Church on artificial contraception even if I am aware that the teaching on the subject is not considered infallible doctrine by those who know more theology than I do.  I know that some people consider me a heretic and that at the very least I should leave the priesthood.  But my superiors still stand by me.

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Second (very important for me as a student of the Constitution and of church-state relations), I am very much aware of the fact that we live in a pluralist society where various religious groups have differing beliefs about the morality of artificial contraception, which is very much at the center of the controversy.

But freedom of religion means more than just the freedom to believe. It also means the freedom to act or not to act according to what one believes. Hence, the state should not prevent people from practicing responsible parenthood according to their religious belief, nor may churchmen pressure President Aquino, by whatever means, to prevent people from acting according to their religious belief.

As the Compendium on the Social Doctrine of the Catholic Church says: “Because of its historical and cultural ties to a nation, a religious community (like the Catholic Church) might be given special recognition on the part of the State. Such recognition must in no way create discrimination within the civil or social order for other religious groups”; and “Those responsible for government are required to interpret the common good of their country not only according to the guidelines of the majority but also according to the effective good of all the members of the community, including the minority.”

(this appears as a whole paragraph in the column; splitting it into three is the poster's decision, with apologies.  the intention to split is simply to present it into bite-size reading fare, not an editing attempt. - islander)

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« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2012, 07:07:02 PM »
Third, the obligation to respect freedom of religion is also applicable to the state. Thus, I advocate careful recasting of the provision on mandatory sexual education in public schools without the consent of parents. (I assume that those who send their children to Catholic schools accept the program of Catholic schools on the subject.)

My reason for requiring the consent of parents is, in addition to the free exercise of religion, there is the constitutional provision which recognizes the sanctity of the human family and “the natural and primary right of parents in the rearing of the youth for civic efficiency and the development of moral character.” (Article II, Section 12)

(another splitting of one whole paragraph here; more apologies)

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Fourth, the duty to care for sexual and reproductive health of employees should be approached in a balanced way so that both the freedom of religion of employers and the welfare of workers will be attended to.  In this regard it may be necessary to reformulate the provisions already found in the Labor Code.

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« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2012, 07:08:47 PM »
Fifth, I hold that public money may be spent for the promotion of reproductive health in ways that do not violate the Constitution. Thus, for instance, it may be legitimately spent for making available reproductive materials that are not abortifacient. Public money is neither Catholic, nor Protestant, nor Muslim or what have you and may be appropriated by Congress for the public good without violating the Constitution.

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« Reply #13 on: August 06, 2012, 07:09:29 PM »
Sixth, we should be careful not to distort what the RH bill says.  The RH bill does not favor abortion. The bill clearly prohibits abortion as an assault against the right to life.

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« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2012, 07:10:27 PM »
Seventh, in addition, I hold that abortifacient  pills and devices should be banned by the Food and Drug Administration. However, determining which of the pills in the market are abortifacient is something for the judicial process to determine with the aid of science experts.  Our Supreme Court has already upheld the banning of at least one device found to be abortifacient.

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Eighth, I am dismayed by preachers telling parishioners that support for the RH bill ipso facto is a serious sin or merits excommunication!  I find this to be irresponsible.

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Ninth, I claim no competence to debate about demographics.

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« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2012, 07:12:33 PM »
Tenth, I have never held that the RH bill is perfect.  But if we have to have an RH law, I intend to contribute to its improvement as much as I can.  I hold that the approval of the RH bill today will not end all debate about it.  It will only shift the arena for debate from the raucous and noisy rally fields to the more sober judicial arena where reason has a better chance of prevailing.

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« Reply #18 on: August 06, 2012, 07:14:09 PM »
Finally, there are many valuable points in the bill’s Declaration of Policy and Guiding Principles which are desperately needed especially by poor women who cannot afford the cost of medical service.  There are specific provisions which give substance to these good points.  They should be saved even if we must litigate later about those which we disagree on.  In other words, let us not burn the house just to roast a pig.

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Premature babies lie on their cribs at the Fabella government maternity hospital in Manila August 5, 2012. The United Nations on Sunday called on Philippine leaders to pass the reproductive health bill, two days before the House of Representatives is scheduled to take a crucial vote on whether to end debates on the measure. It argued that the RH bill is not about population numbers as it is about ensuring a life of health and dignity. The UN statement also said, Family Health Survey (FHS), which was conducted from August to September 2011 with a recall period of six years for the data, estimated that for every 100,000 live births, there are 221 women dying due to complications of pregnancy and childbirth. This was a 36 percent increase from the 2006 Family Planning Survey data, which showed 162 estimated deaths per 100,000 live births. The FHS also estimated that, across all regions in the Philippines, the number of girls 15 to 19 years old who have delivered live births was 54 per 1,000 live births from 39 in 2006. For the 20 to 24 age group, the increase was to 159 per 1,000 live births from 149 in the 2006 survey. Picture taken August 5, 2012. REUTERS/Erik De Castro (PHILIPPINES - Tags: POLITICS HEALTH)
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