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To circumcise or not to circumcise: What a controversy! (NSFW)
By Jenna!
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A week ago a friend of mine whom I haven't spoken to in several months called to ask if we could get together for lunch.  She used to live down the street from me and was always a great friend, so I was anxious to see her.  We made an appointment and I've been looking forward to it all week.

When I saw her at the restaurant I was very surprised to see that she was pregnant.  "Congratulations," I said while giving her a big hug.  "You're going to be a great mom!"  She said thanks, then we found our way to the table and started catching up as we waited for our food.

My friend, who I'll call Jessica for anonymity's sake, didn't seem very happy.  This was her first child, so I said "Don't worry, no one knows what they're doing in the beginning.  You just wing it and pretty soon you surprise yourself at how good of a mom you can be.  You'll be a great mom!"

"Not according to Rick," she said.  I was a little taken aback; her husband is a nice, decent guy.  "What do you mean?"

She went on to tell me that she wants her son to have a circumcision, while Rick doesn't.  "He actually told me that I'd be mutilating our baby.  We argued about it a lot over the past few weeks.  I've tried sending him information about the procedure.  He says he knows all about it, he just doesn't want it done and doesn't want to talk about it."

No wonder she was distraught!

Our food arrived, which was good because there was an awkward silence as I thought about what she said.  Then I just rapidly blurted out the questions on my mind, "So I take it he wears a turtleneck?"  Yes.  "He likes it?"  Yes. "You don't like it?"  No.  "Wow.  Have you told him that?"  Of course not.

Now the dilemma was clear.  How does she stand her ground without telling her husband that she doesn't like his penis?

Rick was a hunk.  I of course didn't share this with Jessica, but I had often fantasized about getting into his pants.  I consider myself pretty open-minded, and I've had men of the turtleneck and sans-turtleneck variety, but I had to admit to myself that I was a little taken aback.

I must have had a perplexed look on my face, because Jessica asked me what I thought.  "I basically agree with you.  I've had both types, but I don't prefer turtlenecks."  She looked a little relieved.

I think circumcision is a very personal and private decision, and I understand how it can very seriously put couples at odds with one another.  What I never considered is that women tend to be in an even tougher situation than their husbands, because they can't really explain their reasons without offending or hurting their husbands.  Thankfully Jake and I were always in agreement on the subject.

Jessica went on to explain all her reasons, which basically meshed with my own.  "I think most women would agree with you," I said.  For me, it's mostly a cleanliness issue.  There is no doubt that men can keep the area well-washed, but I always wondered in the back of my mind how clean it can be by the end of the day, or after having sex.  I've had a couple boyfriends who were uncircumcised.  They were both very clean, but I did occasionally encounter bad smells and tastes while fellating them.  I also prefer the look of the circumsized man.  My son is circumcised; I just think that he will fit in better with the kids he grows up with, and based on my preference, I think he'll be a little more attractive to the ladies as well.

I don't know for sure what women prefer in general, so I just created this poll to find out:
POLL: Do you prefer a circumcised or uncircumcised penis

In the 1970's, 91% of men were circumcised.  That's quite a bit lower now, but most studies still put the number at over 50% despite the large Latino-American population which generally has a very low rate of circumcision.

There are many pros and cons regarding circumcision but I was surprised to learn that were were so many benefits.  I had always heard that cleanliness and risk-susceptibility was no longer an issue with uncircumcised men.  If the Wikipedia article above is accurate (and you should always take even scientific studies with a grain of salt), circumcised boys are much less at-risk for a variety of situations.

CONS of Circumcision:

    * Religious implications.
    * Ethics/Right-to-Choose implications.
    * Possibilities of complications (bleeding, infection, etc.).
    * Pain during and after the procedure.
    * Some people claim sensation can be reduced because the foreskin contains lots of nerve endings.
      (Jake says no way, if he had any more pleasure he'd go into a coma every time someone touched him!)

PROS of Circumcision:

    * Circumcised men tend to have fewer sexual dysfunctions and a more varied sex life (more likely to have oral, anal sex).
    * They tend to be less susceptible to the HIV and HPV viruses, leading to fewer cases of AIDS and Penile Cancer.
    * They tend to have fewer inflammations and infections of the foreskin and glans.
    * Some women tend to prefer the smoother gliding action of a circumcised penis.
    * Circumcised men tend to have less difficulty keeping a condom on due to the reduced sliding of the foreskin.
    * If circumcision is common locally, the circumcised male will fit in better (the corollary is also true).

I didn't know all this today, so I wasn't much help to Jessica.  I just told her that she should research it more, try to find a better way to explain her thoughts, to be open (but sensitive) to her husband, maybe find a women's poll like the one I created above, and finally to just drop it if Rick isn't interested in discussing it.  It's probably not worth getting into a lifelong fight over!

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Re: To Circumcise or Not to Circumcise (tuli or way tuli, which is which?)
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2007, 10:52:38 AM »
di ba kinahanglan man jud ang lalaki tulion?

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Re: To Circumcise or Not to Circumcise (tuli or way tuli, which is which?)
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2007, 12:10:38 PM »
circumcision is a very healthy practice!

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Re: To Circumcise or Not to Circumcise (tuli or way tuli, which is which?)
« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2007, 03:57:09 AM »
di ba kinahanglan man jud ang lalaki tulion?

Circumcision is a covenant. The Bible says "And ye shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin; it shall be a token of the covenant betwixt me and you" (Genesis 17:11). In the Jewish culture, as well as the Muslim one, boy babies are circumcised as a religious rite.

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Re: To Circumcise or Not to Circumcise (tuli or way tuli, which is which?)
« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2007, 04:03:56 AM »
Dili baya guinatuli ang mga jews!

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Re: To Circumcise or Not to Circumcise (tuli or way tuli, which is which?)
« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2007, 04:05:50 AM »
sa karon naman na, regardless of religious orientation.

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Re: To Circumcise or Not to Circumcise (tuli or way tuli, which is which?)
« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2007, 04:10:56 AM »
sa muslim kay pati mga babae guinatuli!

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Re: To Circumcise or Not to Circumcise (tuli or way tuli, which is which?)
« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2007, 04:14:01 AM »
sa muslim kay pati mga babae guinatuli!

Pero against the law na dire sa Norway...Naa jud sa train, gipaskin, translated in different languages.

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Re: To Circumcise or Not to Circumcise (tuli or way tuli, which is which?)
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2007, 04:14:52 AM »
nganong bawal man daw girger?

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« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2007, 04:21:11 AM »

wala man gibutang ang reason...pero, might as well think!

it's because it eliminates a woman's ability to enjoy sexual sensations.

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Re: To Circumcise or Not to Circumcise (tuli or way tuli, which is which?)
« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2007, 04:24:48 AM »
a woman's satisfaction in sex is not limited to her clitoris! bisan pag putlon ng tinggil naa pay mas labaw pa ka sensitive ana na wala pa na discover sa mga ordinaryong tao!

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« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2007, 10:12:46 AM »
not limited to the clitoris..but clitoris is the most erogenous zone sa baye.. supsopa ang tinggil pastilan puti dayon mata sa baye ana.

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« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2007, 11:36:57 AM »
naa pay labaw pa sa clitoris leo!

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« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2007, 08:25:45 PM »
pareha ra man ang tuli ug dili.. the same satisfaction lang... naanad man ta nga tuli kay it's a matter of our belief sa Bible...and hygiene pud.



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« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2007, 08:38:58 PM »
kuti kaayo ng mga walay tuli! kada adlaw mang hiniktik!

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« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2007, 08:46:40 PM »
naa pay labaw pa sa clitoris leo!
unsa man ang G-spot?

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« Reply #16 on: August 30, 2007, 08:55:59 PM »
yup! pati lalaki gani naa sad g-spot!

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« Reply #17 on: August 30, 2007, 09:02:35 PM »
Bwa hahaha... tinuod diay to gi-ingon sa MEP manager namo kadtong sa Jeddah pako. ning sakpan man kuno iya G-spot sa bakla.. nagpangita na hinoon siya sa bakla..

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Re: To Circumcise or Not to Circumcise (tuli or way tuli, which is which?)
« Reply #18 on: September 14, 2007, 02:17:28 PM »
Mas better ang tuli!

Kung mukaon ta ug balanghoy, mas maayo man gyud ang pughad!  Meaning, kanang adunay mga liki sa pagkalung-ag!

So, mas better ang tuli kay maklaro mang ang liki sa tumoy2... mas-klaro nga pughad!

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Re: To Circumcise or Not to Circumcise (tuli or way tuli, which is which?)
« Reply #19 on: September 14, 2007, 02:20:16 PM »
Mas better ang tuli!

Kung mukaon ta ug balanghoy, mas maayo man gyud ang pughad!  Meaning, kanang adunay mga liki sa pagkalung-ag!

So, mas better ang tuli kay maklaro mang ang liki sa tumoy2... mas-klaro nga pughad!

Other Asian nations way tuli. India, Thailand, ug uban pa. Kita ra mga Filipino ang nakasunod sa mandate sa Bible.

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« Reply #20 on: September 14, 2007, 02:27:24 PM »
ma-consensya man pod ta ana nag-hisgot na og bible...  ;D hehehe....

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« Reply #21 on: September 14, 2007, 02:29:08 PM »
pareha ra man ang tuli ug dili.. the same satisfaction lang... naanad man ta nga tuli kay it's a matter of our belief sa Bible...and hygiene pud.



You are right Leo. It is just like the issue of womans virginity. It is due to our religious belief.
In Europe circumsion is not being practiced and doctors said it is a healty penis if you dont cut anything of it. It helps prevent infections. parehas bas buhok sa tong ilok and pilok sa mata.
Mas ganahan daw ang laki kon dili tuli kay di magasgas ilahang pikoy di parehas as gituli nga sigi ra open kay way tabon.





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Re: To Circumcise or Not to Circumcise (tuli or way tuli, which is which?)
« Reply #22 on: September 14, 2007, 02:31:14 PM »
You are right Leo. It is just like the issue of womans virginity. It is due to our religious belief.
In Europe circumsion is not being practiced and doctors said it is a healty penis if you dont cut anything of it. It helps prevent infections. parehas bas buhok sa tong ilok and pilok sa mata.
Mas ganahan daw ang laki kon dili tuli kay di magasgas ilahang pikoy di parehas as gituli nga sigi ra open kay way tabon.





No. According to research, circumcised men have a lot of advantages than the uncircumcised. Many research studies have agreed on this.

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Advantages of Circumcision
« Reply #23 on: September 14, 2007, 02:34:38 PM »
Why parents should have their male kids circumcised

           
  •     Circumcision lowers your son’s chances of getting a urinary tract infection (UTI) in the first year of life.
                    Although a rare condition, cancer of the penis is essentially eliminated in circumcised males.
                    Research shows that males who are circumcised have a slightly lower risk of getting sexually transmitted diseases (STDs).
                    Circumcision eliminates foreskin infection that occur at the peak ages of 3 to 5 years.
                    Circumcision prevents phimosis, a narrow opening that makes it impossible to retract the foreskin at a later age.
                    Genital hygiene, which is particularly important in unsanitary conditions, may be easier after circumcision
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« Reply #24 on: September 14, 2007, 02:40:02 PM »
mo bilib jud ko ana! mas cleaner pa

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« Reply #25 on: September 14, 2007, 02:48:44 PM »
mo bilib jud ko ana! mas cleaner pa

Korek! Baho baya jud kanang tiktik! eeewww... pasalamat gani ko nga gepa-tuli ko!  Bahung anghit og maka-mantsa pag jud sa brief... yuckeee... murag 'chizwiz' nga nakatag!

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Re: To Circumcise or Not to Circumcise (tuli or way tuli, which is which?)
« Reply #26 on: September 14, 2007, 02:58:37 PM »
No. According to research, circumcised men have a lot of advantages than the uncircumcised. Many research studies have agreed on this.

Mike, so you mean, the doctors here are not good because they dont practise circumsion?


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Re: To Circumcise or Not to Circumcise (tuli or way tuli, which is which?)
« Reply #27 on: September 14, 2007, 03:03:01 PM »
Di ba sa Global warming even scientist disagrees?

I think this issue on Circumsion is  another differences in religious belief.
Gipatoo tas una nga hugaw ang laki nga di patuli ug di daw gani pod kaanak kon di patuli.

Which was not true at all.
Cleanliness and odors depends on the individuals and of course we all know now that even pisot can have children.


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Re: To Circumcise or Not to Circumcise (tuli or way tuli, which is which?)
« Reply #28 on: September 14, 2007, 03:10:17 PM »
Korek! Baho baya jud kanang tiktik! eeewww... pasalamat gani ko nga gepa-tuli ko!  Bahung anghit og maka-mantsa pag jud sa brief... yuckeee... murag 'chizwiz' nga nakatag!

hahahaha sure ba ka pre? ahong lagay dili man baho...humot kastanan oi..LOL
Sigoro imuhang lang baho..hahahaha



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« Reply #29 on: September 14, 2007, 04:48:49 PM »
hehehe basta ako kay tuli. want a proof? hehehe

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« Reply #30 on: September 14, 2007, 04:51:22 PM »
saman ni uy! pakit-anay nalang noon tag lagay dire bi? aahahahahhaha!

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Re: To Circumcise or Not to Circumcise (tuli or way tuli, which is which?)
« Reply #31 on: September 14, 2007, 05:04:14 PM »
hahahaha sure ba ka pre? ahong lagay dili man baho...humot kastanan oi..LOL
Sigoro imuhang lang baho..hahahaha



'PRE' am talking about "walay tuli" am not saying, baho ang lagay! Excuse me, puray ang akoa! Humot jud akung puray. Giwaswasan naku ni og 'downy'!

Simhutanay ta beh! Cge... dali... hehehehe...

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Re: To Circumcise or Not to Circumcise (tuli or way tuli, which is which?)
« Reply #32 on: September 14, 2007, 05:08:50 PM »
'PRE' am talking about "walay tuli" am not saying, baho ang lagay! Excuse me, puray ang akoa! Humot jud akung puray. Giwaswasan naku ni og 'downy'!

Simhutanay ta beh! Cge... dali... hehehehe...
gamit sad ka panty sheilds mare? hahahahahha

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Re: To Circumcise or Not to Circumcise (tuli or way tuli, which is which?)
« Reply #34 on: September 20, 2007, 03:17:46 PM »
Di ba sa Global warming even scientist disagrees?

I think this issue on Circumsion is  another differences in religious belief.
Gipatoo tas una nga hugaw ang laki nga di patuli ug di daw gani pod kaanak kon di patuli.

Which was not true at all.
Cleanliness and odors depends on the individuals and of course we all know now that even pisot can have children.






Kanang tulile nang hitabo na na sa panahon sa karaanan, ky hygiene mana...it could transmit some germs or bacteria nga nag tago diha sa mga kilid2x

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Re: To Circumcise or Not to Circumcise (tuli or way tuli, which is which?)
« Reply #35 on: September 20, 2007, 03:23:26 PM »
hehehe my female friends told me nga dili man daw lain kung dili tuli imong partner

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Re: To Circumcise or Not to Circumcise (tuli or way tuli, which is which?)
« Reply #36 on: September 20, 2007, 03:30:28 PM »
i know there is no difference at all pero is it clean???

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Re: To Circumcise or Not to Circumcise (tuli or way tuli, which is which?)
« Reply #37 on: September 20, 2007, 03:38:05 PM »
ambot lang..tuli man ko.. hehehe

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Re: To Circumcise or Not to Circumcise (tuli or way tuli, which is which?)
« Reply #38 on: September 21, 2007, 06:33:01 PM »

hahaha layua na ug gidaganan sa storya oi...natuk-an lang kos tubig ug kumatawa. ;D ;D ;D

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