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Quote from: kiamoy` on January 06, 2009, 11:59:48 PM
hello bonbon!! thank you for spreading it. nice to see you online. wala pa ka mi text ha!

KiaMs!... I lost my phone... I'll PM you my number...

I just read about this in Lea Salonga's blog and I logged in to TB to post it... good that someone already did...

everyone e-mail this to everyone you know... and repost it in your own blogs... we need to help Ms. Bambee de la Paz...

From A Distance by Lea Salonga with The Philippine Madrigal Singers

Such a beautiful and meaningful song sang by one of the greatest artists in the world backed by one of the most famous harmony groups in the Asia.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vs_vuqEoZg

For Good from the musical Wicked has been playing over and over in my head since I first heard it.

It's such an amazingly beautiful song.


For those who don't know what it's about...

It's when the best friends Glinda (The Good Witch of Oz) and Elphaba (dubbed The Wicked Witch of the West) finally say goodbye to each other before Dorothy Gale comes up to the tower and melts Elphaba with a bucket of water.  Elphaba is not really evil but is, however, viewed as such because of her green skin and "not-so-pleasing" personality towards the world.


Here... Listen for yourself.  Finish the song.  So beautiful.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jx3rjS_vSM4

Quote from: smiffytheninja on September 17, 2008, 12:07:04 AM
Well, as I recall... Bohol is one of the most popular tourist spots in the Philippines. It's not unusual to think that an event like this can bring x amount of pesos and even more business for the city. 

commercialization is not bad.. and neither is a capitalist mentality... just as long as the spirit is retained in the process of infusing these things...

in the latter case, it wasn't!  the soul was gone... like I said.. it was like some sort of carcass of a once-meaningful celebration...

Quote from: ms da binsi on September 08, 2008, 10:09:03 AM
its okay, daghan bitaw nagka tibulaag adtong panahona! bisan karon wa pa maka balik ang uban.

sigi lang mobalik ra to si vinSent ug maka panahon na sad.

hopefully... he's been awfully busy man daw... as in he used the term "awfully"... heheheh!

Quote from: grazie7y on September 05, 2008, 09:33:36 AM
Bon, kinampay inyong ube?  Wow, kalami ana oi!  Lami na gani bisan regular lang na ube tapos lutuon sa kinaraan na way which we call "lunawon"!  Mura lang bitaw na sya i boil after na gipanitan then gi cubes.  You eat it with the broth and of course the ube dayon butangan sugar. yum o!

we have two varieties... Kinampay and another purple variety nga dili kinampay... lami jud kaayo ang kinampay oih!.. humot kaayo... shyetz!!... wala pa lang gani mi mag-harvest karon kay bag-o pa gipangtanom ni nga batch...

Quote from: Lorenzo on September 05, 2008, 03:30:38 AM
Ate Ging,

My mom makes really good cassava cake and Leche Flan. And yes, Ube Jam. Lots more that I forget the names, hahahaha!

ahhhh!!!... LECHE FLAN!!!!... I love that stuff... huhuhu.. nag-crave na hinuon ko dah... grrr... I'll go order some right now... hahahah!...

and my mom makes great Ube Jam.. kinampay... aw, Bran.. naa diay pud mi Ube,, i forgot to mention.. heheheh!

Quote from: Gingah on September 03, 2008, 11:26:52 PM
So, asa na si vinsent yu?

he got disinterested with TB sa layout bitaw before.. kadto wa'y klaro.. karon, he's busy daw with school and work.. lisod pud iyang shift i-alternate sa school schedule nija...

Quote from: Lorenzo on September 02, 2008, 10:03:43 AM
hahaha! Bon (already offtopic) what kinds of plants do you grow in your farm?

Toss me some mangoes, yo.

Or if you have any pineapples. Please send it my way.

Yeah.. We have mangoes.. and pineapples...... AND watermelons...
rice... corn... peanuts... balanghoy, camote...

moreover... the usual vegetables...

Quote from: windgate on August 27, 2008, 03:30:12 PM

Halos tanan sa mga tao dinhi sa Pilipinas gusto manglarga sa gawas, nurses included.  They didn't choose to stay.  They stayed because they lack the experience or lack of papers or failing to pass the state exam.  or not making the right connections,  etc,etc, etc.  They are force to "do charity or donating services" while waiting for the right time kay wala na may mahimo.

OFW?  Accidental heroes!  Lets face it.  Nanggawas na sila not because for the love of country  but for the love of the family nga mahatagan ug maayong kinabuhi.  Immigrants?  Nisamot.  Nanglayas na dire sa pilipinas kay wala na kasabot sa atong panggobyerno.

So parehas ra ning mga nurse dinhi nga mga nabilin.  Mga accidental heroes. hehehe

this hits the spot, windgate... woooh!... and I find myself tugging the rope towards this path... just not as a nurse... heheheh!

Quote from: Lorenzo on August 25, 2008, 11:51:42 PM
This is just totally catastrophic. Thank you kaayo, Bon, for giving me that information.

The government has no one else to blame for the migration of nurses and physicians abroad but themselves for the magnanimous medical situation in the Philippines.

For me, I see nothing wrong with nursing students going abroad to find a job; they follow economic law. Supply and Demand.

There is alot of supply of Filipino nurses; there is little demand in the Philippines due to the saturation of the source; but there is quite a high demand for the said source in the West and Middle East. So naturally and logically, mo follow pood ang mga Filipino medical professionals sa flow.

Until the government can increase the standard of living/pay grade of atong mga nurses and physicians; they cannot expect to reduce the immigration of said professionals abroad. Les the demand of said sources decreases due to global economic hardships, immigration laws, and/or a growing saturation of said source in the importing countries.

yeah.. sakto jud ni nga statement... and very well said... there is no viable solution to prevent the so-called "brain drain" phenomenon sa atong country because the government itself is culpable......

Quote from: Lorenzo on August 26, 2008, 01:31:21 PM
Haha? Durian? Well..I don't think I ever had the pleasure of that falling on top of my head before.

LOL

Bon, just make sure you wear extra padded helmets.

roflmao

hahahah!.. pleasure man jud diay... nah!... hadlok ni dah.. mura'g Addams Family... hehehehhe!...

yah, Bran... kung pwede pa lang tulo ka-helmet... pero malabo.. Bohol soils don't allow durian growth... we tried sa among farm but wala mulahutay...

Quote from: bol-anon nga cebuano on August 25, 2008, 11:36:38 PM
do RP clergies and laymen will accept same sex marriage? if ANG LADLAD won the party list election, that could have been their first priority. what do you think? are you in favor? for me, im against it. im an open minded person but im still within the bounds of morality.

I'm in favor, of course... that's my stand... we all have our biases... and this is among mine... hehehe!

Quote from: simplylee on August 24, 2008, 10:18:56 PM
hi Bon!

weee!.. ellow!.. how're you? haven't seen you since the EB.. for that matter, I've only seen Sigbin and Melrose since the EB.. heheh!

Quote from: orChids on August 24, 2008, 10:20:13 PM
Hahahahha ,di jod ma feel ang pain kung ma-tigok dajon Bon.

mao jud, and that's usually the case bya.. hahahah! ti-aw ba gajud...

Quote from: Lorenzo on August 23, 2008, 08:16:02 AM
Experience tells me that when you go apple picking, don't forget to bring a helmet.

Sometimes, an apple manages to fall on one's head.

So better to come prepared, eh? eh? hahaha!

that's not even half as painful as when durian falls on your head... hahah!.. ouch!

Quote from: Lorenzo on August 23, 2008, 01:56:28 AM
Sometimes civility is the best option.

If you don't have anything positive to say, why share it.

Be professional. Show some class.

hehehe!.. this was already argued about.. months ago.. and I've already apologized for this...

Quote from: Lorenzo on August 23, 2008, 01:38:33 AM
Dili pood diay mo offer ang government sa subsidies sa hospitals?

I know, for a fact, that the Philippine government does not do that.
Luoy lagi, Bran.  I really feel bad for our nurses kay mura'g gi-undermine ilang work ba.  Di baya jud lalim magnurse.

Quote from: bol-anon nga cebuano on August 13, 2008, 12:19:58 AM
gays and lesbians adds color to this world. i have lesbian and gay friends who are professional in any sense specially on the way they behave. i think sexual things doesn't need to be discuss since it's too private and they are entitled to be happy. in my own honest opinion, accepting them is totally within cultural bounds. some communities and groups doesn't want them while some will embrace them. all religions have gay and lesbian followers except for one, islam. as what i've heard islam despise homosexuality that's why gays and lesbians from islam dominated countries specially in the middle east fled and moved to other places where are they are accepted.
for me, it's not a problem. i've known a lot of people who are homosexual by nature. they are priests, professors, pastors, nurses, doctors, engineers, basketball players and other sports personalities. i have homosexual relatives both young and old. as long as their demeanor will surely point who they are and they don't deny it plus they are not vulgar and indicent. some gays are so indicent, lewd and immoral in the sense that they are show off in public.

hala.. mura'g na-igo ko ani bah... tsk.tsk,, hehehe!.. bitaw uih.. I miss my baby!

Quote from: kiamoy` on August 14, 2008, 01:57:07 AM
when cya nadawat? kay two months ago mani nagsugod nga d na madawat

last month xa nadawat, actually... and I was even surprised... rejoice2x gud intawon ang kagwang kay ga-tuo nga di na jud xa ka-land og trabaho nga disente diri.. hahaha!

It's a civic, patriotic and philanthropic fraternal organization.  To get in, you need to write an application and you need the endorsement of two members.

...your application will then be queued for consideration...

First things first.  Make PR with some of the members and express your interest to them.

Carpe Diem~!

Quote from: teng on August 13, 2008, 12:42:07 PM
basta makakita ko ug tawo nga mag over all white...maka remember jod ko ug dagom nga itusok tusok sa akong kalawasan

agay nars!... hahaha!

deep in my heart I'm concealing
things that I'm longing to say
scared to confess what I'm feeling
frightened you'll slip away...

Quote from: ms da binsi on August 13, 2008, 07:26:32 AM
Bon, nag stabilize pa sha sa ijang pako kay mo lupad na raba sha inig gawas nija! Honest. Nangandam na sha sa ijang pag gawas sa ijang shell.

I will welcome him with an open arms jud! (mura man ug kanta)

nakabasa jud ko anah nga statement gikan nya.. on one of the threads here..

and yeah, we've been texting so I know about his plan to spread the rainbow-colored wings.. he's even asking for some help.. haha! he needs help in breaking the cocoon open... luoy pud uih.. he told me his story.. very touching...

I, too, welcome him with open arms... he likes to be hugged rba, Belle.. heheh!

Quote from: bol-anon nga cebuano on August 12, 2008, 11:36:37 PM
dawaton siguro oi. akong mga silingan call center man work taghuwat sa result sa ilang NCLEX, Board or CGFNS.

naa'y mga call centers nga modawat gihapon but naa lang jud uban nga mga arte!... hahahahah!

Quote from: EL MUNDO on August 12, 2008, 05:25:06 PM
BobBon, you mean VinsentYou is Henry Yu of Cebu?

unja doctor na man sad na si Henry Yu... and that's Henry Lim Yu... hapit na pareha... I'll ask him.. maybe related sila... ehhehe!

Quote from: EL MUNDO on August 12, 2008, 05:25:06 PM
BobBon, you mean VinsentYou is Henry Yu of Cebu?

I don't think so... the spelling of the name is different man...
common pud na nga name didto ui...

Mr. Vincent Henrie Lee Yu, RN...

...otherwise known to Tubag Bohol forum bloggers as "VinSentYou"...

...is on hiatus from the forum since he is doing research about repertory theater.  He has flown to Manila to talk to acclaimed theater directors Roy Del Valle and Odie Jamora.  And among other endeavors, he is going to watch Cinderella. (YATI! NA-IBOG KO BAYTZ!)

He asked me to post this thread for the information of everyone.  Here is his text message verbatim:

"
Elow bonh.. . paki.tel sa mga piPz sa tB na wAz ko sa forUm krn ky naA koW mLa 2 intrvW Odi J & Roy DValle 4 my  rprtory chUrvaness.. . hihi! dalkyAt sd wTch Cinderellahhh!.. . wee! i knw ga.boil imo bloOd ryt nw.. . and mlay mo, mgka.meet mi mAnang moW. . gaAn ra k nkO autoGraf nya.. . haha!pki.in4m lng TB hap. k.k? gOw. . .
"

Quote from: kiamoy` on August 11, 2008, 11:58:54 PM
dili na dawaton mga BSN grads sa call centers..

naa ko'y friend nga nadawat sa Convergys... hahahah!... but she's not an RN... a BSN grad, nonetheless...

Quote from: Lorenzo on August 11, 2008, 03:30:03 AM

Everything else is just bureaucratic bullshittt.

I'm a huge fan of this expression, Lorenzo...
Ultimately, it all boils down to that... hahaha!

Quote from: kiamoy` on August 09, 2008, 11:45:56 PM
oh well. gwapo imo beau hihihi

balik2x jud ka sulti anah uih... hweheheh!

Quote from: VinSentYou on August 08, 2008, 12:02:17 PM
aw, the one who posted this pala. hehehehe....... kewl!
what's his last name?

"Udtohan" na iyang last name, Vins... ngano? mangayo ka'g tips?.. hehehe!..

Quote from: lumine on August 08, 2008, 09:40:50 PM
he is a friend,hehehe! we used to bump each other at CNU grounds when i was still taking my masters.wala naman gud koy contact niya.

ahhhh. okay... kana bya siya kay libakon sa akong mga classmates before and I really don't know why... especially sa akong mga classmates nga naa sa PEP squad... pero di ko apil ha.. wa man gud ko kaayo kaila niya...

Quote from: lumine on August 06, 2008, 06:19:33 PM
vins, raymond villas is rey ba? is he the villas who is a PE teacher in HNU?

hala... kaila ko ani pud nga Rey Villas... HNU ko b4!... ngano man diay ni siya?

Quote from: kiamoy` on August 07, 2008, 02:05:37 AM
mao jud.. samot na ang uban nga ga nursing lang to grant their parent's wish or parent's childhood frustration.. wew`

@vinsent. lage! ako gane perme ko pangutan-on if i still have plans to review for the CPA board.. i had a hard time explaining  jud sa HR nga i won't anymore... call me kiams

mang-intrude ko sa imong message para kay Vins ha... Accountancy grad diay ka, Kiams?... heheh!.. karon pa ko dah!

Quote from: kiamoy` on August 07, 2008, 02:43:09 AM
hahahah ..ako pud nataas ako pikas kilay..hmmm

basta i CC nalang ko sa text (hahaha) if manglaag mo nga daghan ta..haha

Kana siya, naa na sija'y uyab nga girl... mao nga................... *you get the point*.. *insert grin*

If I'm there.. maybe makig-EB na si Vins.. hahah! hangout 'nya ta with whoever else naa dinha nga available... including my beau.. hahaha!

Quote from: VinSentYou on August 06, 2008, 12:55:56 PM
aaaarrrrgggh!!!!!!... drop topic... bon, mangayo ko number nimo... if ok lang...

that'd be fine but I can't seem to send you messages... since I can't view your profile... I don't know why... there seems to be something wrong with the technicalities sa TB... I don't know what... add me na lang sa friendster: bonbon_q_2121@yahoo.com

then send me a message there so I could give you my number... I can't give it out here sa forum...

by the way, ngano mangayo man ka number?

Quote from: VinSentYou on August 06, 2008, 01:04:12 PM
whoash!....... di na man ka ma-reach Bon uy! naka-ilan ka na ba? yes, I love his voic too! he's like an angel when he sings...... ala-David Archuleta..... heavenly! bwahahaha! crybaby indeed! napa-iyak ko na yun! hmmmmm...... really good in singing but sa singing lang ba???... bwahahahah!

libakon gyud ka namo....... I'll ask him about your escapades!

naka-ilan na ako? hmmm.. I don't keep track.. nyahaha!... bitaw, Vins! he really does sound like David A.. OMG!.. I can remember that time when I attended his brother's wedding and he sang.. grabe.. very clear voice.. idol niya si Lea Salonga bya.. pareha mi... yeee!

of course he's good in some other things... I don't have to blurt it out here.. you know nah.. hehehe!.. but that was just before ha... you made him cry?.. how? why? sige, libaka jud ko ninyo...

Quote from: ms da binsi on August 06, 2008, 12:36:23 PM
Bon, naigo jud ko ana! sus suko akong anak nako, 3rd year na sha ning undang jud na, tua na sa call center!

Ingon si banana pasagdi lang kay bata pa kaajo, 19 pa gud sha ug mo graduate sha!

Dayun ang mga hospitals di sad mo dawat ana ka bata nga nurse diri sa Merika!

I suggested nija nga mag filming para maka work diri, di sad! barriotic kaajo! bahala sha oi!

ang filming maka work jud diri bisan ginagmay pero very descent kaajo sa hollywood,

bisan unsa nga nationality, ang film industry modawat jud basta creative lang ka...

mao nga i let her go oi! lagut unta ko but you gave me an idea dear! it is bad! ingon akong amiga taga bukid daw ko! hahaha

it was my fault, ga usik usik lang ko ug datung! after that,

sija nay bahala sa ija kaugalingon when she feel like coming to the states kay mag student loan nalang sha!

hahahah!... well, we could all learn from our mistakes...

the film industry is great!... I should know... I used to work with the SU-KMC at my former university... but it really takes heart... di jud mu-succeed if wala sa kasing2x.. if wala'y passion... you have to love it to have it!.. heheh!

bitaw uih... if getting a student loan is a viable solution for her, then gow!.. not all times are easy... hehehe~!.. oki ra nah...

Quote from: VinSentYou on August 06, 2008, 12:43:35 PM
kanang Ted?. mao na imong uyab?... OH my!.. he's so gwapo!... i checked out your pics on multiply....... shyet!.. makabayot man sad na uy!.. shyet! shyet!..

by the way, Ludwig diay imong name? I guess imong complete name nang imong web address.... hahahahaww!..

hala! na-unsa na man ni?.. sure ka nga straight ka??... hahaha!.. feel lagi nako kay mura'g lahi ra... nyahahah!

Ludwig is part of my first name.. Ludwig Bon.. yes, that's my complete name sa akong web page.. heheh!

Quote from: VinSentYou on August 04, 2008, 10:51:06 PM
wow ha! 18 lang, out ka na! bilib ko da! naa na pod tingali ka uyab sa? kay relationship2 na man ni imo gihisgotan daani.

RC means Roman Catholic, by the way....... heheheh!

OMG!... nabulok ko kadyot dah!.. hahahah!.. stupid of me... nope, I'm not RC... heheh!.. why ka ask? ikaw?

Quote from: VinSentYou on August 06, 2008, 11:11:28 AM
exactly! ikaw kuno ingon og fake. mohilak jud ko no. huhuhu!....... hahahah!...
omigod! i know Raymond. klasmeyt mi sa repertory....... what a small word! he's gay man, bonbon. he tried to hit on me before even in front of my girl. waaaaaaa! magmeet mi unya at class. manlibak mi nimo. ahyahahah!!

Small freakin' world, indeed!... he's got an amazing voice,,, mesmerizing jud!... you'd fall into a trance when you hear him sing... di ba?.. I know he's gay.. we had a thingy-thing-thing before.. hehe!.. but that was way back.. over a year ago, I guess... heheheh! crybaby pud na siya uih!... grabe!.. but he's really good... reaaaallyy good!... in singing bah!... heheH!...

sige gow!... libaka jud ko! haha!

Quote from: kiamoy` on August 04, 2008, 11:20:13 PM
aysus pagka gwapo sa uyab ni ludwig!!

OT: huy ludwig..imishu!

heheheh!... thanks, Kiams... well... what can I say?... I'm a lucky guy!... mishoo, too!...

Quote from: kiamoy` on August 04, 2008, 11:28:02 PM
nursing graduates are no longer accepted sa call centers..

HR noticed naman gud nga himuon rang palipas oras ang call center..

they don't know every AWOL or resignation from a 2 month palang nga agent/trainee costs millions!

i got sad nga dili na sila dawaton.. dili lalim maging nurse..

Quote from: VinSentYou on August 06, 2008, 11:11:28 AM
yah. mao gyud. tama ka. prejudiced na man gud ang mga BPO nga mu-AWOL ang mga nurses nila once they get jobs. daghan na kaayong bad experiences sila with regards to nurses.

it's not easy being me, no! i even tried to apply sa PS and TeleTech before but they declined my application just because of the three letters (BSN). awch!

by the way, how would I address you in a single-syllable manner?

need I say more?.. this is a very poignant fiasco jud!.. they're finding it hard to seek employment apart from medical related jobs because of the AWOL prejudice they have been branded with... and most of them bya kay dili jud passion nga mag-nurse.. nangapugos lang tungod sa diktar sa ilang parents... and mao'y gidangat nga di na hinuon sila kakita og trabaho...

Quote from: VinSentYou on August 04, 2008, 10:18:03 PM
wow! good point, kid! indeed, there is no predefined bracket for human love.
bravo!
I'm straight but I support this stand.

Di ka RC no? how old are you? are you one of these that you speak of?

heheheh!... thanks, dude!...

I'm 18... and yes, I am one of these that I speak of... heheheh!...

what's RC, by the way??.. heheh!

Quote from: gelyan on August 04, 2008, 10:37:05 PM

@ ludwig naa mi sa 39c marapao street kanang yellow house dha going boholand.. or pwede sad nako i- distribute  ang cd ninyo kay mag-eb man kaya ta ingon ni vida sa august 17 9pm brewpoint.

awesome, then... thanks for the info, gel... weeee!

Quote from: VinSentYou on August 04, 2008, 10:37:27 PM
exactly! maluoy lang pod ta anang tawhon intawon og fake. makahilak man pod ta ana og lemon juice... hihihi......

hahahah!... buang2x man ka, vins! hahahahah!... of all the things... halang jud, Belle...

by the way, duha akong friends dinha.. Ketchieliene Dacuya and Raymond Villas.. ring any bells?

Quote from: VinSentYou on August 04, 2008, 10:05:26 PM
I agree with you here. Nurse gani ko but I opt to work here in the Philippines. My country needs me. non-full-time nurse lang ko. dalikyat pod skwela kunohay sa BigFoot. imbis ang uban nanggi.nursing, ako nurse na daan nya ni-ambak og film! weeeee!

Mabuhay ang Pilipinas! wahehehe!

pa-unique pud ka ha... you're among the few whom I know of nga nurses daan nga ni-proceed og other line discipline... apart, of course, from those who proceeded to medicine... heheh!

bigfoot pa jud!!... what imo specialization?... I have friends there...

Quote from: ms da binsi on August 04, 2008, 10:23:42 PM
Bon, everything you said is true!

very true!

I wish ma post nimo na imong article sa mga magazine or any reading resources sa Pinas!

para mana sabut ang mga Pinoy!

P.S. ako na i paste sa akong BLOG!

Thanks for agreeing, Belle... Yes, I'll have this published... add that to my list of concerns.. heheh!... awareness is important jud!... sakto ka...

sure!.. by all means... thanks for posting... heheh!...

Quote from: Macky Ferniz on August 04, 2008, 10:13:49 PM
Nursing is the most indemand profession 5 years back that many doctors studied nursing as a stepping stone for going to the US. But as per Mr. Bennelyn, Japanese hospitals are now employing Indonesian nurses. Other countries are now employing Chinese and Malaysian nurses as cheap alternative. Nursing in these countries are a two year course compared to 5 years standard. I considered them as fake nurses.

With cheap competition, we will end up being a country of "nurses without doctors" instead of "doctors without borders".

With the growing population of senior citizens, these so called fake nurses are now utilized as caregivers or midwives. They are a big threat to our genuine nurses. Our nurses should not accept such jobs which are humiliating to thier sacred profession.

I remembered the famous expression when I was in college: "Agay nars"

In any case, you should not force your children to take up courses which are against thier passion. It is like a forced marriage.

Well, competition will always opt for a cheaper alternative. That's one of the adversities causing our downfall. But we can't force them to pick our nurses.  So, the problem still remains.

I wrote that and started this thread because I feel so devastated as a friend for my friends who are now registered nurses but then aren't able to move forward because they can't get jobs anywhere.  This quandary owes to the fact that there just aren't enough jobs for them anymore. It really makes me sad.

Quote from: michael-ligalig on August 04, 2008, 05:31:23 PM
In addition, many lawyers and fiscals have abandoned the law profession as they are now enrolled in nursing schools.

I had a bad experience in hospitals sa ato in which some nurses are just buying time with their hospital jobs as they wait for their visas. I saw male nurses in Cebu who smoked cigarette at the hospital.

this situation has clearly gone overboard...

MARKET VALUE....

Maka-taas ba diay na og market value na'ng ma-RN sa Pilipinas?  According to UNESCO and UN-ILO (International Labor Organization) joint research statistics, the Northern American and European Union demand for nurses have plummeted to staggering depths over the last 2 years.  [I can't reveal the statistics yet since they have not yet been published by the main offices.]

It has plummeted in a manner so devastating such that even American and European nurses are having a difficulty finding jobs in their own countries.  And did you know that to be an RN in those countries, you only need 2 years in university studies?  And bogbog-sarado mo diri sa Pilipinas og 4 years (even 5 years in some schools).

So karon, ang nahitabo sa mga nurses nila mismo: ni-proceed og human health development courses, science courses, or medical technology. And after that, ni-venture sila into research jobs for pharmaceutical companies, stem cell research and such. Others, ningsulod og medical schools to become doctors.

Believe me. The real figures are classified information as of the moment but the entire situation is not new information.  This entire "Philippine nurse-overload" fiasco has been predicted by UNESCO as early as two years ago when the demand was at its peak.  And the prediction was published in UN newsletters. Tell all of your friends. Pag-call center na lang mo ui or what have you nga maka-earn mo, just as long as it's an adequate and honest source of income.  Business Process Outsourcing, business ventures, agricultural ventures, engineering, law... These are viable sources of income for Filipinos.  And you're better off here with these kinds of jobs.  Kung manggawas hinuon mo, daghan kaayong mag-salig ninyo with the notion that you've been picking up dollars like Sweeney Todd has been getting customers in his barber shop for Mrs. Lovett to turn into meat pies.

Maayo pa nang naa mo diri and they could see how you work.  And then when opportunities arise, go flee the country for good.  Leave the negative people behind.  They will only hold you back.  And if obliged man gani ka mopadala og money to your family, give them enough. Never give too much just to feed their caprice.  Mao na'y sakit sa mga Pinoy nga hambogiro kaayo nga naa'y kamag-anak sa gawas.  Wa sila ka-realize og unsa kalisod ilang kayod didto and they burn money as if they've been shaken off olive trees.  Give out of love so they could feel it.  And never allow them to take pride nga naa sila'y anak nga NURSE or CAREGIVER sa gawas sa nasod.  That's preposterous.  Be proud of yourself if you achieve such a feat but never allow others to take the pride elsewhere.  That's a dire misconception.  That would be false pride.  They should pray for you hinuon kay by sending you away as overseas NURSES or BLUE COLLAR WORKERS, they are subjecting your health to certain jeopardy.

I hope this will be an eye opener.

A little piece of advice from a UN volunteer worker for those who are in high school, those who are contemplating to shift to BSN, those professionals who are not satisfied with their jobs and want to proceed to BSN (most especially doctors who are planning to degrade their degrees):

DO NOT STUDY NURSING IF IT'S JUST BECAUSE YOU THINK IT WILL LAND YOU A GOOD JOB ABROAD.

IF CARING FOR PEOPLE IS YOUR PASSION, THEN GO STUDY NURSING.  BUT LET THAT BE THE REASON... NOT BECAUSE GI-PUGOS KA SA IMONG PAMILYA OR YOU FEEL FORCED BY THE SOCIAL BANDWAGON KAY "IN" SIYA NOWADAYS.  THAT'S AN ARCHAIC PERSPECTIVE.

WHAT WAS SEEN AS THE MOST PRACTICAL CAREER TWO YEARS AGO HAS BECOME THE MOST IMPRACTICAL IDEA OF TRANSCENDENCE FROM POVERTY. MAHAL PA ANG GASTOS, UNYA IN THE END, DI PA JUD KA KAKUHA OG TRABAHO! SUS GINOO KO! UNSAON NA LANG INTAWON...

DO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WITH YOUR LIFE... INVOKE THAT SPARK OF CREATIVITY WITHIN YOU!

THIS ADVICE ALSO GOES FOR PARENTS WHO FORCE THEIR CHILDREN TO TAKE UP NURSING... YOU'RE KILLING THEM... LET THEM DO WHAT THEY WANT, FOR GOD'S SAKE... FOR THEIR OWN FUTURE'S SAKE! FOR THEIR LIVES' SAKE!

Quote from: lumine on August 04, 2008, 01:03:12 PM
cge pohon,bon kay pakan-on ti ka ug tinabal.

sige gow.. bantay bitaw ha.. food explorer bya ko.. I've made a career out of that.. hahaH!..

kublan na ni akong tiyan.. so I could most definitely take tinabal... among many others... heheh!

Quote from: lumine on August 01, 2008, 07:53:18 PM
kadto unta tong dinner sa manga,bon, kay pwede ra to mag short pants,hehe. cge sa sunod na lang. dili man kaha ka arte,bon?

yah.. I missed that... di jud ko arte intawon.. I may just seem like that at times.. pero backpacker/cowboy/farmer/camper baya si Ondoy Bon-bon... hehehe!

Quote from: gelyan on August 01, 2008, 09:25:26 PM
hala te, wala naman cguro sila happy diri sa bohol... asa naman to sila ha?

cge... adto lang sa office naa mga cd didto for Tubagbohol members.

what ni nga CD?.. lost jud ko.. hehehe!

Quote from: whoami on August 01, 2008, 09:31:11 PM
mamatay diay pod ning phone. just kidding

ok fine... napawong kay na-empty batt... heheheh!...

pedantic much?.. heheheh! 

Quote from: gelyan on August 01, 2008, 09:25:26 PM
hala te, wala naman cguro sila happy diri sa bohol... asa naman to sila ha?

cge... adto lang sa office naa mga cd didto for Tubagbohol members.

where's you office, anyway?.. hehehe!

Quote from: kiamoy` on August 02, 2008, 10:30:58 PM
your phone died or imo jud gpatay kay dili magpa disturb!??! hahaha peace ludwig (love your name!:))

It really died jud... as in!... promise... nagkabuang gani ko kay hapit ko nabiyaan sa akong ride.. because my driver didn't know where I was nah...

balik na ko Bohol now.. next time na gud pud.. hehehe! kasayon ra tabokon anang Cebu ah..

Quote from: Ginger on August 01, 2008, 07:06:46 PM
Bon, just keep logging-in. There might be another EB in the next couple of months.

Or if you go to Cebu, send a message to kiamoy ang mochajava.

I'm actually in Cebu right now but I can't send any messages at the moment since my phone died... huhuhu... I'll be here 'till Sunday...

Quote from: Ginger on August 01, 2008, 06:58:17 PM
Hahaha! do you need a map?

Miss you too, Bon!

Yes, I need a map... I most definitely need a map... I'm desperate...

When could we do something like that again?  Preferably an even where we could wear more comf'table clothes.. hehehe!

I don't know where to come in anymore... I'm lost... waaaaaaaaaah!...

Anyway, just passin' by, people... I so totally miss the people i met during the EB...

Quote from: Melrose on July 30, 2008, 12:01:09 PM
hiv/aids awareness and prevention is a big banner of the population health environment (phe) advocacy in the country today. it's a good thing bohol has lots of NGOs who work with the provincial government in this advocacy. there's PATH Foundation and there's the United Nations Population Fund. Ako, apil-apil lang. hehe! I'll bring you to one event soon. 

Awesome!.. Around two years ago, we also sponsored an event similar to that. It was my organization together with UNFPA. Our resource people were from PAFPI. Reproductive health churvaness 'to siya and HIV/AIDS awareness pud. That's also my advocacy bya. As in!

Quote from: Melrose on July 30, 2008, 11:26:44 AM
ok. just text mi if you're coming. I might go to an "HIV/AIDS activity" later.

oooh... that sounds interesting...

Quote from: Melrose on July 30, 2008, 11:04:20 AM
Hi, my son bonbon. Let's go out na lang. My connection here at the office is slow. It's very disappointing.

Aw, magda na lang ko'g flash disk, mom.. hahaha! bitaw, sige..
asa man dapit pas2x diri intawn? naa ba pud?

Quote from: Melrose on July 30, 2008, 10:36:09 AM
hi! i'm kinda having trouble uploading pix. paul taught me na before. then belle taught me again gahapon. hehehe! i'll post some soon. i hope my connection is fast this time.

Hi, Mom.. anha-on na lang ka nako sa imong office unja... ako'y upload ana-a.. hahaha!

wa pa nimo gipang-email nako jud... heheheh!.. [demanding much?]

Quote from: lumine on July 29, 2008, 07:12:53 PM
bon,pls let vida post the pics in her cam.

okie, I'll ask her... she seems kinda tied up at work... hehehe!
but I'll ask her..

dili puwede ug dili to ma-post.. hahah!

Quote from: kiamoy` on July 28, 2008, 11:26:02 PM
to bonbon. haha! yeah. different rajud ka sa forum than in person. i mean. touch me not man ka sa forum.. pro yey! vibes ta sa EB!! haha

hahaha!... kujawa pud nang imong term oieh.. "touch me not" man jud... hahahah! buotan bya koh, Kiams.. I became your instant escort noh.. hahah!

Quote from: borobotoy on July 28, 2008, 09:51:11 PM
dia pa...katogon nalang ko....bsin lain maoy ma post ba...

hahah!.. amaw.. sagdi ra gud nang lain...

Quote from: ms da binsi on July 28, 2008, 07:42:30 PM
Bonbon its nice to see you...

You guys had so much fun daw according to Ginger...

Hi, Belle...

Heck yeah!.. we had a blast jud! and na-amazed ko niya kay she recognized me first... (I'm going to keep saying this.) heheheh!

you seriously should've been there... You missed a lot!

How've you been lately?  I've been doing serenity Shaolin meditation these past weeks in the guise of cleansing my ego and ridding myself of negative energy--that explains my hiatus from TB.

Quote from: Ginger on July 28, 2008, 06:10:25 PM
Bonbon, from now on I should trust my instinct 100% or more. As what kiamoy said, you really looked like our cousin Keken.

Yes, we were suppose to go bar hopping last night but got stuck in a place in CPG Ave. (forgot the name). We were home almost 3am.

woooh.. so I have a resemblance with someone from the family.. heheh!.. weeee!..

how about my avatar now? does it look like the guy you met last night named BonBon?.. heheh!

by the way, there's really no such thing as bar hopping in Tagbilaran City on Sundays... it turns almost like a ghost town at 10pm.. fun dies on Saturdays.. really no haven for party goers like ourselves.. heheh!

OMG!... last night was awesome!

It felt weird that everyone kept saying how different I looked in person but I had FUN giving my answer nonetheless. hahaha!

~*~ Congratulations to Ginger who recognized me first.  I should give you plus credits for that. hehehe! 

~*~ Appir ni Lumine for allowing us "wa'y lingaws" to put baby Matt inside a bag. hahaha!

~*~ Thanks mucho to Melrose for the ride.  Kung wa pa ka, I wouldn't have gone 'jud.  I so wouldn't have gone alone.

~*~ Ah! Mae Flor!  So nice to finally meet yah after all that online brouhaha...

~*~ And sorry to Kiamoy kay wa ka naho makuyogi ug laag.  I really wanted to, though.  By the way, dis-a mo last night?  Nadayon mo?

Thanks to Sir Jun for spearheading that thingy last night.  Hope we could all do something like that again... one of these days... Had a splendid time!

Hello, TB people...  I haven't been active on the online scene lately on account that I've been ridiculously busy these past several days.  Stuff, stuff and, well... stuff! Hahaha!

Anyway, I'm posting now to inform everyone that I'm most definitely coming!  I've already had Gelyn count me in through Sigbin II...  Weeeeeeee!

See yah all there!

Quote from: ms da binsi on July 09, 2008, 03:20:36 AM


Way picture Bon?

wa jud ko gada ug tarong nga camera ning-adto sa pizzahut... ga-uranay ra gani ko ning-adto... heheheh!... wa pud ko gahuna-huna ug picture... sayang da... sige lang, Belle... the next time we meet, picturean lagi nako xa... hehehehe!...

although pasagdi lang akong mga pics ha kay dili jud xa as artistic as yours... grabe... and by the way, I love your new album... "Faces"... as in!

I just met Mitzi a few minutes ago at Pizzahut... she was with Vida T and Liza M... they were all making habhab on a huge bowl of pasta... hahahah!...

anyhoo, life's good for Mitzi... she doesn't need an uyab...

who wants to taste my specialty?... crayfish/lobster/prawn steak in abalone sauce... paired with a scoop or two of mashed golden potatoes topped with oyster sauce cooked with dill and oregano in pure butter... and ultra-topped with Parmigiano-Reggiano...

guaranteed to take you to heaven... (and of course, take you back)

Quote from: C2H4 on July 08, 2008, 01:32:02 PM
Thanks bonbon for posting this. I am laughing all by myself, in the middle of the night tungod ani nga balak.

Daghan btaw mga single nga dalaga ron oi, unsaon man pud, it's slim pickings out there. There are very few good men to pick from. The good men are either married or gay. Kung naa'y rice crisis, mas labaw pang naa'y eligible bachelor crisis. Maayo unta ug pareha sa NFA nga puede linyahan. sus

you are, by universal consensus, right when you say that there's an "eligible bachelor crisis"... but let me add something to make the quandary a little more specific... it's more of an "ELIGIBLE STRAIGHT BACHELOR CRISIS"... after all, eligible bachelors may be gay, too, you know... hahahah!

slim pickings, indeed... jati-jati ra pud 'nang mura'g NFA Rice kay a-linyahan... hahahah!... thanks for this comment...

smiles all around...

Quote from: ms da binsi on July 06, 2008, 11:07:24 PM
Bon ang imong Thread nga way ujab nahimo naman nga siga-siga sa mata sa kalami tingali?

ambot lang unsa nay ilang gipanag estoryahan!

sa unahan ani mahimo na jud ning biko ug sekwati, pila pay pusta!

hahahahhahha

hahahahah!... usa ka dako lang ako-a, Belle...

Quote from: Bambi on July 06, 2008, 11:27:38 PM
more political and commercial views.  It has nothing more to do with the history.

Mao jud ni... exactly what I was trying to say about MBS and the entire festival...
no more soul... just some carcass of what used to be a lively and spirited celebration...

Quote from: simplylee on July 06, 2008, 08:17:04 AM
unsaon nga gicommercialized na jud kaaju ning SANDUGO. sa una kay magkaragkarag jud ko uban sa akong mga anak kay manan-aw sa mga pasundayag kay naa may relevance sa gisaulog. wa na jud bitaw ko kasabot naunsa na ni. (ukayukay ug pirated DVDs na lang) 

this is very, very, VERY true... thanks for giving a counterpart testimonial/sentiment...
gone are the days... tsk.tsk...

I like what has become of this thread... woooh!...

right on!... from habal-habals to stuff nga managko inig mata... hahahah!...

carry on, ladies... and gentlemen, perhaps, if there are any who want to join in and inject a few of their own testimonials about life on the "other end" ... heheheh!

Quote from: ms da binsi on July 05, 2008, 11:28:27 AM
Im glad to hear that even the young ones are longing for the real spirit of the celebration!

Bon, i like that opinion. Hope the people concern can read this thread.

Well, I'm not your average teenage guy.  I think that statement is overused already.  And it's become a statement most stereotypical teenagers use.  Hence, contrary to what they're saying, most youngsters who use that statement are, in fact, typical and average, "nothing-special" teenagers.  But I say I'm different because I really am.  [hehehehe! Yabang much?]


Anyway, yeah!  I'm longing for something that feels REAL!  As in real jud!  Not something that'd make me REEL!  [hehehe!]

I really do hope "THEY" come across this.

Are our standards as Boholano people deteriorating?

Has Tagbilaran City's brand of friendliness gone completely down the drain?

Why is the celebration this bad?

Why are all the stands in front of the city hall?  Why not at the pier where it used to be?  For goodness' sake, na-mura na man intawon ug piryahan na diha dapita uy!  The city hall looks very degraded with all the "banderitas" and what not.

Moreover, kanang Miss Bohol Sandugo, na-unsa na man na?  It has almost completely lost its symbolism already.  Di na lang ko mo-state sa akong reasons kay ambot!  Lisod na!  I think you all get the point.

PLUS, LET ME POINT OUT A HUGE IRONY: Why are there stands selling pirated DVDs there?  Atubangan pa jud na sa city hall ha!  Atubangan!  Why did they allow that?  Kahibaw mo, kagwang jud na'ng mga tao nga kusog kaajo mo-implement sa ilang own quasi-draconian policies and yet mu-neglect na lang anang pagka-simple nga "INTERNATIONAL" anti-piracy law.  They are setting a terrible example to the public!

Grabe!  Wa na 'ju'y sense of culture and heritage ni nga Celebration.  It's supposed to be the commemoration of an earth-shaking milestone that took place in our province centuries ago.  The blood compact.  "'san dugo".  But tan-awa ra gud na'ng blurb sa festival website.  http://sandugo.tagbilaran.gov.ph/2008/bsfi.php  There is nothing here that speaks in line with what's supposedly being celebrated.  Puros tourism ek-ek.  Well, there's nothing wrong with tourism but at least man lang bisan tu-od ug kahibaw sila nga kahibaw na ang tana'ng tao ug para-asa na'ng Sandugo Festival, di 'jud gihapon angay i-leave-out uy!  Aber, in that kind of analogy, di na lang kintahay magdala ug passport sa airport inig-larga sa lai'ng nasud kay confident na kaayo ka-ila na ang tana'ng tao?  Think about it.  It seems nga this celebration is happening just for the sake of festivities.  Festival na lang gani, di na celebration.

Goodness gracious!  What's happening to us?  What's happening to Tagbilaran City?  Nakahinomdom pa mo sa time nila Gardy Labad and such people?  Although he had his shortcomings, he did something great to Bohol that would never be forgotten.  He helped put Bohol on top of the list.  But where is this kind of spirit now?  Wala na 'ju'y traces.  What ever happened to all the cultural fuss I used to enjoy as a little kid?  The LCC concerts at The Metro Centre, the golden singing voice of Da Maris singing Bisaya songs, "Dagon sa Hoyohoy", "The Oracle", "El Indio Bravo", and what not.  Asa na man ni'ng mga butanga?  Wa na'y kaya?  Crisis?  Hah!  That's such a lame excuse!

Forgive me sa tanan nga na-affected sa akong statements.  Nothing personal.  Don't get angry kay tinu-od ni!  The veracity of this is indubitable!  Basta kay wa ko ganahi ani 'ron!

To say that I'm appalled right now is a sheer understatement!  Ambot na lang 'jud!

Quote from: ms da binsi on July 04, 2008, 07:44:30 PM



Ang akong pinaka ganahan ani kanang Control+Shift+A kay naa usahay akong boss diri mokatok panagsa!

Asa kaha ta magpalit ug software ana Bon? hahaha

hahahahaha!... mao lagi... i think we all need this... somehow... someway...

if only...

duha na to ka-songs ha... heheheH!...

sure, Belle... i'll fill you in if I get a copy...

hahah!... and the world would be a better place...

Quote from: mae_flor on July 04, 2008, 04:37:58 PM
whahahhaha kung puede lang jod ...whew!!! kung makakita naka ug installer pasahe baja pud ko ha kay para mabasa na nato kung unsay nasa ilang mind..no need to ask sa ilang mga whereabouts

the surreal idea is making me boil... lami jud kaajo unta noh?...
maybe... in the future...

Quote from: mae_flor on July 04, 2008, 04:32:30 PM
puede na nako ipa install  right now sa akng pc Bon? kay i want to read wats n his mind right now

naglisod lagi ko'g pangita ug installer... naa ko'y nakuha pero pirated man gud, di mu-work man... I'm looking for the genuine copy of the software jud... very rare... it's so rare that it doesn't even exist at all... nyahahahaha!

hmmmmmmmmm... kung pwede lang, Lord...

i could really use this dropdown menu right now...

Quote from: mae_flor on July 04, 2008, 04:19:31 PM
hehehhe ako pud ingana baya ko, kusog pud ko mamantay kadugayan ma irritate na ag gibantayan

hahahah!... hmmmm... kinsa kaha nang gibantayan?... who's the lucky guy, Mae?... hehehe!

Quote from: mae_flor on July 04, 2008, 04:14:25 PM
nindot pud ang way uyab kay way magbantay sa imung mga lihok

awts... na-igo ko... ako raba jud ang kusog mamantay... heheh!... pero di ko labot ani kay laki baja mi puros... hahah!

we have Mitzi to thank for this... and the tens of thousands of Boholano women nga wa'y mga uyab... heheheh!

Quote from: B:) on July 04, 2008, 02:29:01 PM
nice poem, nalingaw ko pag-ayo, murag may pagka comedy nga dang tinuod.

salamat bonbonquest for sharing!

Yeah, life's a huge adventure/action/fantasy/comedy/drama/love story motion picture... heheheh!  This woman was wise to have put her story into poetic writing...

no probz, B:)
always a pleasure to share to others the simple things that make me smile...

Here's a little something I'd like to share with everyone here at TB.  It's a poem by Mitzi Ibaya, also known to us as Lingganay, of KaKa (Kaliwat ni Karyapa), a Boholano Visayan cultural poetry organization.

She read this poem at the 2007 opening of the National Arts Month celebration in Cebu City.  We went there as delegates for Bohol since our founder was assigned to light the torch for Poetry.  Napoleon Abueva was also there to light the torch for sculpture and architecture, as well as other names.

The poem is in Boholano-Visayan and it's really funny.  It was an ice breaker after a very long pause in the program.

ENJOY!


Babay’ng Wa’y Uyab
By Mitzi Ibaya


Lisod ning daga’ng wa’y uyab.
Kung di ko tambok,
Maot ko’g naw’ng o di ba kaha batasan.
A-dudahan pa ‘jud ko’ng “lesbian”.

Akong mama mag-sige’g pangutana,
Mahalin pa ba ka o di na?
Akong mga amiga, i-hanyag bisa’g kinsa,
Lakip na to’ng upaw sa eskina.
Unsa ko, desperada?

Naa pu’y mga tambag,
Wa’y klaro’ng tubag.
Huwata, pangitaa.
Naa pa gaju'y mu-honghong,
“Bahala’g langkay basta ma-ukay."

Unsa-on man pud?
Akong ganahan mao ma’y mudagan.
Labon tong budlat mao’y nangigat,
Nah! Mao’y gidangat!

Ngano man diay ug wa ko’y uyab?
Malipayon man ko sa akong pag-inusara.
Hinuon, wa ko’y a-gakson.
Sagdi lang, wa man pud ko’y awayon.

Quote from: EL MUNDO on July 04, 2008, 01:42:24 PM
hahaha nice. there was a musical show last june 17 at Carlos P. Romulo Auditorium in RCBC Tower Makati City Philippines to watch the farewell run of the Broadway hit musical “Avenue Q.”

last year, i loved the song "there's a fine fine lie between love and ..." it's wonderful.

did you catch that show? i missed it... well, I didn't even know there was a show... hehehe! sayang ah!...

and about that song, "There's a Fine, Fine Line"... it's a nice song... makes a lot of sense, too... ang mga songs sa AQ kay binuang pero meaningful kaayo jud... as in!...
even the song "The Internet is for Porn"... heheheh!

http://www.imeem.com/people/RrjD80/music/NJQG_mlH/avenue_q_if_you_were_gay/

open this... simple and stupid song... but it makes a lot of sense...

it's from the musical Avenue Q...

I love this thread...

I have no regrets, whatsoever, starting it...

weeeeee!... go on... go on...

mura'g McDonald's bah... "I'm lovin' it!"... heheheh!

Quote from: Bambi on July 03, 2008, 06:25:57 AM
Hello Pare! Kumusta?

I have always respected your point of view since from the start knowing you here in TB.  I've been reading the hot discussions in this interesting thread but some biblical citations makes me confused.

I have a question to you since you are a bible expert.  I had read in one of your comments that phrase: "The act of homosexuality is a SIN! Would you be kind enough to elaborate and explain clearly WHY IT IS CONSIDERED AS A SIN in which connection?  I am interested to know this. Thanks.

As I understand: GOD created us equal and he ordered us... "Go to the World and multiply" (As what the Pinoys considered obedient enough).  As to my poor understanding: Since the homosexuals have no possibility to multipy..... are they sinners? Due to this reasons that they could never follow what God said? If our Almighty God loves us all whom he molded.... Why and into what basics he will neglect some (Bayots) of his own creatures?  Sorry dear God!...Is this not an art of cheating from our Lord? 

In my own opinion....mas sala pang dako ang siging panganak ug daghan unya way ika-pakaon kay sa mga boutan nga  b***t (dili pod tanan ..like we heteros)  nga mang-adopt ug mga gisalikway nga pobreng bata gikan sa mga ginikanan nga masunoron sa sugo sa Diyos.

Pare....what I think there are other mortal sins which need more our attention rather than telling someone who is courageously outing himself  at the age of 18 who more or less only need our respect as a person.  And I am happy to have him here....let TB Family be more colorful!

We welcome all from different categories as soon as they are called human, right?

Peace all be with you! 

Behold, a sensible response.  Thanks, Bambi!  This relaxed my head.

Anyway, it's people like Lorenzo and WBP who initiate chaos in this world between liberal and traditional choices.  They just couldn't swallow reality and it saddens me.  They feel compelled to preach to the world whatever fuss their heads contain--unrelenting at that, in fact.  To people like myself, it would be a matter to be ignored but for some, it's the very thing that creates repression and pretension.  That's not good!  No aspect of pretension is positive in any sense.

Thanks mucho, again, Bambi.

Quote from: EL MUNDO on July 02, 2008, 06:13:12 PM
hala, taas naman diay ni nga thread.

anyway, be cool gentlemen.

in bohol, two women were wed in panglao, bohol. sila pa to kinaunhan. wala pay two men.. (hopefully naa na sila si __).

Oh... I am cool, Leo.  As in sublimating... exhaling ice vapor...
Yes, I am cool... nyeheheheh!


...Loving the imaginary action here... hahahah!

Quote from: Lorenzo on July 02, 2008, 11:03:05 AM
Bonbon, I understand your point of view on this matter, but try to retort to other people's opinions without having to use profane words, please. Notice that I did not use such words to you or anyone in this thread. Let us discuss like civil human beings. Intellectuals with mutual respects on each other's persona.

My views, Bon, are affixed and I will not change my views to fit into anyone's box or any idealogue. Like yourself, lol.

I am a religious man, and I will even dare to say that my morals and ethos are based on my religion and my own faith. Through which is based on religious Christian, specifically of Roman Catholic, scripture. Now , I would like to tell you that though religion has a large influence in my views on social as well as personal topics, I make my own interpretation and my own judgment accordingly.

Its called social conservatism, Bon. I hold quite traditionalist views on social aspects; and I can guarantee you that I am not the only one in here with such views, in the United States, in the Philippines and in the world.

Concerning your bringing up of the use of BC/AD, on the contrary, secular society uses the term BCE/CE (before common era/ common era). But many still use the BC/AD setting. It depends on the individual.

And lastly, you bring about an interesting point at how you 'dont care' about the view of others, which I am lightly paraphrasing from your retort. However, even if you say that, it still will not mitigate the fact that over 1.2 billion Catholics and an additional 500 million protestant christians, an additional 1.1 billion muslims still hold rather conservative feelings on this topic.

I will end this remark with a personal absolution. It is in my personal opinion, that the act of homosexuality is a SIN. It is a sin as noted in scripture. Old testament and New testament. And it will vary on different individual's view on salvation and acceptance of this act. We do not know if whether the Lord accepts this or not, we can only hope that the Lord is accepting of it and looks past this sin. But I can tell you this, that it is told clearly in Genesis, in Leviticus and in Col that this said act IS a sin.

Many will think that such thinking is derelict, but to think and ignore its message, which comes from The Holy Bible itself in not only the Catholic version but through many protestant versions, is ignoring and choosing to pick and choose what part of the bible one can use.

Bon, the act of homosexuality is a SIN.

And looking at it in a biological stand point, as a scientist, is violation of natural law. The point of sentient beings is to reproduce and replicate their genetic codes. XY genome will mix with XX genome. You cannot mix XX with XX or XY with XY. And in the words of Ate Belle, she is right. Homosexuality IS manifested because of neurological degeneracy. There is enzymatic abnormalities.

So, in actuality, the 'abomination' that is said in Holy Scripture bears TRUE forebearance IN that even science proves the 'abnormality' of Homosexuality. In the view of the scientific--organismal point of view.

Cheers,
Bran Lorenzo

Quote from: Lorenzo on July 02, 2008, 11:06:41 AM
The message that His Eminence, Bishop Leonardo Medroso ushers truth in what the bishops and the Holy Orders reiterate.

Even in the United States, there is varying verbatum on the aspect of marriage.

Many Americans view that there should be equal rights for homosexuals on a political point of view. Equal benefits for them; given civil unions.

But the topic of 'marriage' has remained a very sensitive topic. It still relegates to the concept of man and woman. Not man-man or woman-woman.

So that's what you think.

I've said it before and I will say it again: I don't care what you say, Lorenzo.  I have a mind of my own and so do you.  I have my own line of thinking that has been influenced by generations of great thinkers and I'm not about to bow down to any other ideologies obviously lesser than that.

I think as much as I read.  When I read the works Freud, Piaget, Kohlberg, Erikson, the holy Bible, the Kabbalah, Q'uran, Bhagavad Gita, or anything else, I use my head.  My brain isn't a sponge, you know.  I do know how to think--very well, in fact.  I've read about all those things you mentioned in your rant and I've pondered on them.  I'm not the kind of person who only recognizes a single-perspective.  I do consider the other side but your arguments are just not as strong as mine is founded, so I trashed them.

Yes, I do read the Christian bible.  It's among the most insightful books I've ever come across but I don't necessarily believe everything.  If you do, then that's your choice, Lorenzo.  Don't bombard me with them because I really don't care.  Nothing you say will influence me in any substantial manner.  I don't even know who you are.  If I did, it wouldn't matter either way because, much like you with your advocacy, I keep a firm stand with mine and I don't budge for absolutely anyone below my "standards of intelligence".

Your scientific statement on this issue is not useful.  First and foremost because I already know about that.  Second is because we (my partner and I) have abandoned thoughts of reproduction among ourselves.  We are men, alright? We ARE men.  We are aware that it's never going to happen between us.

And telling me that I'm abnormal does not really provoke me intensely.  I know that my genes were designed this way by the biological course of nature.  And who do you Christians say is responsible for this?  God, right?  And does your perspective of God consider to be a sin what makes two people (even of the same sex) happy?  Especially if this happiness is sealed with genuine love?

You say that homosexuality is a sin and your basis of this is the holy bible.  Well, let your basis be your basis.  My basis is mine as well.

I'm not close-minded, though.  I am as dynamic as all human beings normally are.  But given that you are deliberately calling me an "abomination," I would say that you are as "banal" and "feeble" as your shallow-founded arguments.

Keep them coming, Lorenzo.  I would never care.  You are wasting your time trying to tell me things that I am completely aware about.  The fact is that I don't really care... at all.

Let us end this argument, Lorenzo.  Please stop trying to convince me that homosexuality is a sin and that it is an abominable thing.  Nothing you say or do will convince me of this because in my eyes, you are nobody.  I do not recognize you in any significant way.  I do not regard you any more than how I regard every candle vendor at St. Joseph's Cathedral (whom I respect as human beings, by the way), any mendicant at the port of Tagbilaran City or any cashier at BQ or ICM.  To me, you are no one so don't try imposing on me.

Thank you.  Have a nice life.


Ludwig