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Quote from: chriswise on May 01, 2011, 03:34:39 PM
susihon jod og unsa ang palibot sa dipa mologpot og magtampisaw sa mabugnaw tubig,,

Mao nay giingon nga "Look before you leap"...

Quote from: glacier_71 on April 20, 2011, 11:51:58 AM
wa man pod lagiy regulation diha sa ato nga ang mga langyaw naay kuyog nga local...ug ang mga lugar nga kuyaw, kuwang og proper warnings...ug naa man galing binisaya pod (or binisiya nga pagka-ingles pa jud)...

Unya kay daginoton man ang Ingles sa nagbasa, basin maayong pagkabali sa buot ipaibot...

Quote from: Raquelproud boholana on April 30, 2011, 10:06:17 PM
Sagad aning malumos kay magpanic man mao akong hunahuna ani mabaw ra gyud ilang gilangoyan pero nag undertow mao to nasuyop kay murag huyang raba ug lawas ning mga batan ong korean.

Basin wa pa to sa kondisyon kay nag-hangover pa sa Red Horse...

Quote from: chriswise on April 30, 2011, 07:51:59 PM
nagdaginot siguro,maong walay tour guide,,,

Kumpyansa kaayo, di man gud tingali motuo og ukoy...

Quote from: statesville on April 28, 2011, 11:43:07 PM
gitesting  lang seguro imported gud, pero pareha ra diay way warranty..

Mao lagi, imported tuod uloha pero mao rang pagkabuaka...

Quote from: chriswise on April 30, 2011, 06:56:11 PM
kuyawa ani bai,lisod na panahon ron da,,

Nataymingan lang jud tingali...

Malagmit nabasahan na ni. Ang pangutana kon unsang klaseha sa aksyon...

Lahi ra kaayo ang Hindu concept of life, death, and divinity.

Bwahaha! kahinumdom pud ko ani sa usa ka fortune teller nga ang opisina naa sa second floor. One time naa siyay kliyente nga iyang giingnan nga makasugat og dimalas niadtong adlawa. Gikataw-an ra man siya, giingnan pa jud nga gayaya lang ang bugan. Nagtuwadtuwad og katawa nga migawas. Sa kalagot sa fortune teller midagan siya sa iyang balcony unya gihuwat nga moagi ang kliyente. Da, iya bitawng gihulogan og dakong kaang, buak laging ulo...

Quote from: statesville on April 29, 2011, 12:11:10 AM
Pitogo, ang bunga igkaguwang panitan dayon kagisan para alkansiya sa mga bata,
sa panahon sa akong pagkabata maoy kalingawan,   

Hmm, wa na tingali ni nga klase sa duwaan ron kay pila na man lay balor sa sinsiyo nga masulod...

Quote from: statesville on April 29, 2011, 12:11:10 AM
Pero kaamgid sad ni siya ug sago, kon may bunga pa ang picture mailhan unta kay
  ang sago magbugway ang bunga, daghan kaayo na sa una sa uma sa akong apohan
  sa mga bata pa mi matagbaw ug ingkit sa kadaghang bunga.

Unsa may lami aning bunga sa sago, Ms. States? Amgid sa unsa nga more common fruit?

“This is analogous to putting a gun-vending machine next to a depression clinic.”

Klonoski wasn’t terminally ill, so he wouldn’t have qualified for lethal prescriptions provided to eligible Oregonians under the state’s Death With Dignity Act, one of only two states that allow assisted suicide. But he was able to buy Hydorn’s kit on the Internet, to rent a helium tank from nearby Party City for $175, and do the job himself.

This, an emotional Zach testified at the hearing earlier this month, should be illegal.

“In a society where so many people suffer from depression and other mental-health disorders,” Zach said, “this company has found their niche in the market by peddling death. This is analogous to putting a gun-vending machine next to a depression clinic. The Gladd company, so named as to avoid suspicion in case family members happen to sign for or come across the package, made $60 off my brother’s death.”

Though Hydorn admits she did sell Zach’s brother his implement of death, she makes no apology for it. She has a story of her own.

It was 30 years ago, Hydorn said in an exclusive interview with The Daily Beast, that her husband, “a six-foot-four, wonderful, handsome, loving, intelligent man,” was dying of colon cancer. After several operations, the cancer had spread to his brain, and surgeons had cut a hole in his stomach, out of which came his excrement, into a bag.

“It was my duty, and I did it willingly, to empty that thing every three or four hours,” she said. “One time I ran out of bags and went all over town looking for a pharmacy that sold them. Even years after my husband died, I would wake up and say, ‘I’ve got to go get those bags.’ ”

No one should have to go through that, Hydorn said, to die a slow, painful death in a hospital bed. “Death should be with loved ones beside you, holding your hand."

Not long after her husband died, Hydorn met a man named Derek Humphry, a longtime advocate of assisted suicide and founder of the Hemlock Society, which has worked to change laws prohibiting the practice around the country. It was Humphry, in 1992, who penned Final Exit: The Practicalities of Self-Deliverance and Assisted Suicide for the Dying, which effectively serves as a manual for how to kill yourself and which Humphry told The Register-Guard sold 500,000 copies in the first six weeks.

Hydorn includes the book in the helium kits she sells. She joined the Hemlock Society (which has since merged with another group and renamed itself winstonross.wordpress.com.


http://news.yahoo.com/

Winston Ross  â€" Wed Apr 27, 11:38 pm ET





NEW YORK â€" The 91-Year-Old Woman Selling $60 Suicide KitsA shadowy online company selling suicide kits recently claimed its first confirmed victim. Winston Ross talks exclusively with the entrepreneur behind it: a grieving 91-year-old woman.

The paramedics who showed up to Nick Klonoski’s house on Highland Drive four months ago discovered the 29-year-old’s lifeless body, covered up to the neck by a blanket. It was his brother Jake, detectives learned, who’d found Nick lying in his bed less than an hour beforehand, a clear plastic bag over his head, and a plastic tube running from the bag to an orange metal helium tank. Next to the tank was a white box, decorated with a butterfly, the box the plastic bag and tube had arrived in the mail in, with a book titled Final Exit inside.

“Is it the book and the kit?” asked the first police officers to arrive on the scene. The paramedics nodded knowingly. “Yep.”

These materials were assembled and sold to Klonoski last June for $60 by a company that calls itself the Gladd Group, which is not really a group at all. It’s a woman from the San Diego suburb of La Mesa, California, named Sharlotte Hydorn. She is 91 years old.

Each of the kits Hydorn assembles by hand is a simple contraption designed for a single purpose: people kill themselves with it by encasing their head in a bag of helium, which is lethal in pure form. People like Klonoski, the son of a U.S. district judge and whose funeral was attended by more than a thousand people. The Gladd Group’s estimated annual sales are $98,000. That means Sharlotte Hydorn sells more than 1,600 suicide kits every year.

“I’m too busy to cash the bloody checks,” she told The Daily Beast. “I haven’t made a deposit in three months.”

You have probably never heard of the helium-hood kit. Neither had Oregon State Sen. Floyd Prozanski, until he read a newspaper story published last month about Klonoski’s death. The horrified legislator quickly floated a bill to make it a Class C felony to sell such a kit. The first to testify at his April 11 hearing was one of Klonoski’s four brothers, Zach. Zach told the state senate judiciary panel that “my brother Nick was a beautiful person...It would be a disservice to him to remember him only for the way he died.”

Zach didn’t discuss his brother’s reasons for killing himself, but Nick’s mother, U.S. District Court Judge Ann Aiken, told police he’d been running every day and had been in an upbeat mood, despite battling a severe cold over the past several weeks. Klonoski’s brothers told the Eugene Register-Guard that he’d battled bouts of pain and fatigue for years without a diagnosis, that he was depressed about the effect that had on his life, and that he was worried he’d never regain his normal health.

Kini maoy atong unahon...





Bwahaha! 

Quote from: Raquelproud boholana on April 28, 2011, 10:59:54 PM
Naa man ni daghan sa amoang isla pitogo ang tawag namo ani mao gani ni gamiton namo sahay ug decorate sa chapel or kanang inig  bendita sa lukay

Sakto! Thanks, Raqz. Morag mao diay tuod ni ang pitogo. Pero ang akong nahinumdoman sa pitogo kay naa man toy bunga nga mora kadag-ag itlog sa manok...

There once was a business owner who was interviewing people for a division manager position. He decided to select the individual that could answer the question "how much is 2+2?"

The engineer pulled out his slide rule and shuffled it back and forth, and finally announced, "It lies between 3.98 and 4.02".

The mathematician said, "In two hours I can demonstrate it equals 4 with the following short proof."

The physicist declared, "It's in the magnitude of 1x10¹."

The logician paused for a long while and then said, "This problem is solvable."

The social worker said, "I don't know the answer, but I am glad that we discussed this important question."

The attorney stated, "In the case of Svenson vs. the State, 2+2 was declared to be 4."

The trader asked, "Are you buying or selling?"

The accountant looked at the business owner, then got out of his chair, went to see if anyone was listening at the door and pulled the drapes. Then he returned to the business owner, leaned across the desk and said in a low voice, "What would you like it to be?"


Bwahaha!  

Zebra crossing...

The point of philosophy is to start with something so simple as to seem not worth stating, and to end with something so paradoxical that no one will believe it. --Bertrand Russell

Patient: "Doctor, are you sure I'm suffering from pneumonia? I've heard once about a doctor treating someone with pneumonia and finally he died of typhus."

Doctor (firmly): "Don't worry, it won't happen to me. If I treat someone with pneumonia he will die of pneumonia!"


Bwahaha!   

How Did Your Mom and Dad Meet?

Lottie, AGE 9, says: "They were at a dance party at a friend's house. Then they went for a drive, but their car broke down...It was a good thing, because it gave them a chance to  find out about their values."


Bwahaha!


 

Sakto, angay ni nako para tangtang pud ang akong kaspa...

Quote from: bugsay on April 24, 2011, 02:27:44 PM
grounded?

Malagmit kay morag nalibat man. Wa man untay gihagkan...

Hmm, basin nagsunod ang ijang bana, nagpaulahi kay maoy nagkuha sa picture?

Cool pud ang tripping ni Manang...

                                                                                                                                               

Quote from: bugsay on April 27, 2011, 01:03:51 PM
dili kaha pod hirig ang panghunahuna nga mopugos man gyud ug puyo diha?

Hmm, dili kaha pod hirig ang panghunahuna sa nanukitsukit kabahin aning puntoha?

Basin moingon ang followers nga ang lawas ray namatay...

Quote from: islander on April 28, 2011, 01:54:57 AM
could oneself reproduce oneself?

Hmm, this question is more medical than philosophical...

Quote from: chriswise on April 28, 2011, 01:05:08 AM
do ta kag ma nga gipamolong bay hubs,,,dot man sa bokog,,

Dot as in sam pak gid haw?

Quote from: bol-anon nga cebuano on April 28, 2011, 04:07:43 AM
naay niparking sa ilang tungod gidunggab ang ligid pwerteng luoya sa tag-iya. akong sakyanan gi atrasan sa kano nabuak ang fog light wala jud bayri bisan sorry nalang. namahawa nalang ang mga giatay. wala na jud pakita ug balik.

Hmm, foreigner diay ang abusado?

Mahimo baya pud himoong kataw-anan ang kang bisan kinsang relihiyon...

Bwahaha! Kinahanglan magtikungkong hangtod buntag!

Quote from: hofelina on April 28, 2011, 06:16:13 PM
daghan ni sa Europe. I saw lots of this in Portugal.

Cycas rumphii, Palmfarn!

Hmm, naa ba pud ni sa Pinas, Ms. Hof?

Malagmit paryente ni sa lubi, pero morag layo na pagkaparyenteha. Naa ba kaha ni siyay local name...

Hmm, nagduda na hinuon ko ani, da. Di ba kaha diay ni electric stapler... 

Mao ra ni ang gipakaon nako. Gi-imagine na lang ni nako nga chicken feet... 

Lami pud kon braised...





(He he, lami na lang tanan...  )

Dia ra ang fried chicken feet...

Quote from: Lollapalooza on April 28, 2011, 05:06:47 PM
ganahan pod diay ka ug adidas Sir Hubs.... ganahan ko pod ko mokaon ani especially kanang adobohon...

Paborito nako ni nga sumsoman, Ms. Lolla. Lami bitaw ang adobohon pero lami pud ang linat-an kay matilok jud...

Quote from: chriswise on April 27, 2011, 11:03:33 PM
homok na ron bai kay mahal harena,,

Hmm, mao ba? Di na diay angay tawgon og pan Bohol...

Human sa puasa, kini na pud sa pamahaw...

The best parts!





Yummy! 

Kalami!

Daghanang sumsoman. Ang bitin lang daan, payts na. Naa pay karnero ug cordero lechon de leche...

Quote from: statesville on April 28, 2011, 03:07:30 AM
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hinoon what goes in needs to come out...

He he, ang nakadaot lang kay piece by small piece. Unya naa pay daghang hangin nga pataban...

Mosawom ba pud kaha ni...

Aw, tam-is jud hinuon, pwede kuno pakamatyan...

Magkaon kag noodles unya matagak sa imong bowl...

DEATH be not proud, though some have called thee   
Mighty and dreadfull, for, thou art not so,   
For, those, whom thou think'st, thou dost overthrow,   
Die not, poore death, nor yet canst thou kill me.   
From rest and sleepe, which but thy pictures bee,         
Much pleasure, then from thee, much more must flow,   
And soonest our best men with thee doe goe,   
Rest of their bones, and soules deliverie.   
Thou art slave to Fate, Chance, kings, and desperate men,   
And dost with poyson, warre, and sicknesse dwell, 
And poppie, or charmes can make us sleepe as well,   
And better then thy stroake; why swell'st thou then;   
One short sleepe past, wee wake eternally,   
And death shall be no more; death, thou shalt die.

--John Donne

Quote from: islander on April 28, 2011, 02:53:43 PM
the same parehas ang hitsura sa umaabot nga pagbuto sa imong hubag.

"This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
Not with a whimper but a bang."

--T. S. Islander

The Day of Judgment from the centre panel of the Memling Triptych in GdaÅ,,sk.

Gregorian Chant - "Dies Irae"

Hindu sacrifice of 250,000 animals begins
Olivia Lang in Bariyapur
www.guardian.co.uk
Tuesday 24 November 2009 13.11 GMT


The world's biggest animal sacrifice began in Nepal today with the killing of the first of more than 250,000 animals as part of a Hindu festival in the village of Bariyapur, near the border with India.

The event, which happens every five years, began with the decapitation of thousands of buffalo, killed in honour of Gadhimai, a Hindu goddess of power.

With up to a million worshippers on the roads near the festival grounds, this year's fair seems more popular than ever, despite vocal protests from animals rights groups who have called for it to be banned. "It is the traditional way, " explained 45-year old Manoj Shah, a Nepali driver who has been attending the event since he was six, "If we want anything, and we come here with an offering to the goddess, within five years all our dreams will be fulfilled." .

Crowds thronged the roads and camped out in the open, wrapped in blankets against the cool mist. The festivities included a ferris wheel, fortune-telling robots and stalls broadcasting music and offering tea and sugary snacks.

As dawn broke, the fair officially opened with the sacrifice of two rats, two pigeons, a pig, a lamb and a rooster in the main temple, to cheers of "Long live Gadhimai" from spectators pushing against each other for a better view.

In the main event, 250 appointed residents with traditional kukri knives began their task of decapitating more than 10,000 buffalo in a dusty enclosure guarded by high walls and armed police.

Frightened calves galloped around in vain as the men, wearing red bandanas and armbands, pursued them and chopped off their heads. Banned from entering the animal pen, hundreds of visitors scrambled up the three-metre walls to catch a glimpse of the carnage.

The dead beasts will be sold to companies who will profit from the sale of the meat, bones and hide. Organisers will funnel the proceeds into development of the area, including the temple upkeep.

On the eve of the event, protesters made a final plea to organisers by cracking open coconuts in a nearby temple as a symbolic sacrifice. "It is cruel and inhumane. We've always been a superstitious country, but I don't think sacrifice has to be part of the Hindu religion," said the protest organiser, Pramada Shah.

The campaign has the support of the French actor Brigitte Bardot, who has petitioned the Nepalese prime minister, Madhav Kumar Nepal, about the issue. But the government, which donated £36,500 to the event, has shown no sign of discontinuing the centuries-old tradition. An attempt by the previous government to cut the budget for animal sacrifice provoked street protests.

Chandan Dev Chaudhary, a Hindu priest, said he was pleased with the festival's high turnout and insisted tradition had to be kept. "The goddess needs blood," he said. "Then that person can make his wishes come true."

Quote from: islander on April 28, 2011, 02:46:48 PM
The fear that the abuser would greatly harm the pet for revenge if she left, kept many of those wives from leaving.

What a bind...

Naunsa na man ni nga nahimo na mang matag tiki ang hitsura sa umaabot...

Quote from: bugsay on April 28, 2011, 02:28:05 PM
wa na'y mapuwak karon, kay mahal na ang copra.....giuna na'g saka sa mga wa'y puangod...di ka huwat nga ang tag-ija mauy mokuha...

Oi, sa ato pa mahal na pud ang lana sa lubi? Aw, balik na lang diay ko sa lagong nga maoy inusnos sa akong hubon...

Quote from: islander on April 28, 2011, 02:29:00 PM
karon, pagkahuman ni late congresswoman agana, asa na man ang face of tomorrow?  wa ko ka-get ani nga post da.

Sorry, I didn't know nga late na diay...

Quote from: islander on April 28, 2011, 02:16:36 PM
by the way, i know of an orphanage in cebu nga usa ra ka pari ang tigbunyag sa mga bata nga abandoned.  that priest is the respected fr cris garcia, who now has founded a congregation after years of serving as a secular priest.  naturalmente, kadaghanan aning mga bataa illegitimate mao nga gi-abandon by their hapless mothers.  they have all been baptized in the catholic faith.  ang problema lang ni fr cris kay ang mga apelyido sa mga bata.  magdalidali kuno intawon siya ug pangutana kon unsa na man pod nga apelyidoha ang iyang ihatag because some have unknown parents.  naa kunoy mga bata nga nakaapelyido ug garcia ug ahat. 

He he, nindot baya ang "Ahat" nga apelyido, as in "Miss Apple Ahat".

Bwahaha! Patay kang banana ka!

Quote from: islander on April 28, 2011, 02:20:58 PM
na, hala, if you insist.  ari diri kay expert kog ear cleaning.  limpiyohon nako nang imong bungog, hubag.

Simbako lagong! Unsaon gud nako pagkahimong bungogon nga di man ko maligo...

Hilu, dis is Botoy...

Quote from: bugsay on April 28, 2011, 01:55:17 PM
magamit ni ni Hubag...

Bwahaha! Hopeless na ning akoa. Gawas pa, olive oil? Di ba mahal na? Di pwede lana na lang sa lubi? (Mamuwak ko sa kalubihan nimo, Bay Bugs...)

Quote from: chicogon on April 28, 2011, 01:35:56 PM
Train them to eat like goats and carabaos!!! Vegetarian na lang hehehehe... 

He he, kon maglisod sa vegetarian diet unya tua nagpuyo daplin sa hunasan, tudloan pagpanakop og tambasakan...

Quote from: bugsay on April 28, 2011, 01:51:04 PM
sa bungog, Padz?....hehehe

B...ikog!

Quote from: islander on April 28, 2011, 01:00:26 PM
sorry tuod, chris.  kalamay ra man unta sa pantalan tong pagliko gamay, naunsa man nis hubag nga atuli na may gihisgotan.  if atuli is there, can bungog be far behind? 

Aw, taga pikas lungsod ra jud. Kon naay mahisgotan nga familiar sijag gamay, ratatat dajon. Unsa pa kaha kon sija juy expert...

Quote from: bugsay on April 27, 2011, 10:20:39 AM
mao na ang style diri sa TB, Padz...dili lang sa Pantalan....

...style nga dako ang kalambigitan sa tagsulat sa obserbasyon nga gikutlo ko sa unahan...

Birtherist response highlights racial undertones of ‘debate’
By Rachel Rose Hartman
Wed Apr 27, 5:34 pm ET


   


During the 2008 campaign, questions about John McCain's birth in the Panama Canal Zone on a U.S. military base prompted some to ask whether McCain was eligible to be president, since the Constitution stipulates that anyone not born in the United States is not eligible to be president.

Amid a flurry of news reports, McCain's own campaign announced in February 2008 that it was conducting an investigation. When a bipartisan pair of lawyers announced the following month that McCain was indeed eligible, the issue virtually died--apart from a Senate resolution that pretty much laid the question to rest by attesting to the facts surrounding McCain's birth and citizenship.

But the winner of the 2008 election, Barack Obama, has faced a relentless campaign questioning his U.S. citizenship--and thereby the legitimacy of his presidency--that has disregarded the facts.

Questions regarding Obama's birth certificate have persisted for more than two years, as the president noted Wednesday at a press conference announcing the release of his long-form birth certificate. A vast array of evidence attests to Obama's citizenship--including a certificate of live birth, signed affidavits from people who viewed Obama's long-form birth certificate, confirmation by Hawaiian officials, and independent investigations by news outlets. Nevertheless, "this thing just keeps going" as Obama said this morning. Even after the White House released the long-form certificate of Obama's birth, birther leader Orly Taitzâ€"who has filed unsuccessful lawsuits seeking to obtain access to Obama's birth certificateâ€"sought to cast doubt on the document's authenticity, suggesting that in 1961, Hawaiian officials would have classified Obama as "Negro" rather than using designation "African," which suggests, in her view, a more contemporary concern for "political correctness."


More at:  http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_theticket/20110427/ts_yblog_theticket/birth-certificate-wont-end-race-related-attacks-on-the-president

Quote from: islander on April 28, 2011, 12:57:24 PM
ma-depressed gyod ko nga maghunahuna ani.  because it's true. 

It's true in Cebu, or so I've heard. In Bohol, too?

Quote from: chicogon on April 28, 2011, 01:15:13 PM
Mao ra timplaha sa Pasonangka 

Hmm, bantog rang lamian ilang siopao, kay special diay ang meat?

Quote from: islander on April 28, 2011, 01:17:13 PM
buhi ta kaayo sa 10K sa ato, if we live simply in an average town.  no child to send through college in the city, no special medical care needs, no unnecessary entertainment expenses, no car to maintain, and the church, local clinic and market are just a walking distance away.  that's a life, the kind of retirement life i may wish to lead.   

Hmm... and no cats and dogs to house and feed and keep healthy?

Quote from: bugsay on April 28, 2011, 12:39:45 PM
maingon ta'ng punga, nga usa na's hinungdan nga nakalahutay ta's kapobrehon..

...ug sa akong kasinatian, kon hapit na maaburido kay wa nay ikalitog bugas ug gakinahanglan nag agua de pataranta aron makasagubang sa kalisdanan, swertehan baya pud nga naay higala nga taga sunod lungsod nga mouli gikan sa gawas ug mobangkag buntagay nga inom...

Quote from: chriswise on April 27, 2011, 12:37:48 AM
nindot kaayong topic pero ni longtad sa bungog,,paitss..

He he, sorry, Bay Chris, ikaw man diay ang nagsugod ani nga thread. Kini man gud si Ms. Isle...

Quote from: Raquelproud boholana on April 28, 2011, 04:05:07 AM
Ingtagam ko kay gawas nga anghit sa akong kahadlok perti nakong gunit ug murag nagunitan nako ang itlog sa driver hahaha. Awkward kaayo hahaha.

Bwahaha! Mao nay kuyaw, kay basin di na ka-concentrate and driver, o kaha mopiyong!

Quote from: chicogon on April 28, 2011, 05:07:27 AM
Kadugayan ani moingon na jud ug "I'm boring!" (whatever that means) 

Sunod pa jud, "I'm boringog!"

Ingon, gahig ulo kon di maghelmet...

Quote from: bugsay on April 28, 2011, 10:53:48 AM
medyo mada-da na bitaw ni'ng 10K sa probinsya, abag-abagan lang pod ug pananggot ug pamingwit..

...ug pamitlok pud og manok sa silingan usahay...

To love oneself is the beginning of a lifelong romance. --Oscar Wilde

Bwahaha! Pangsagol sa bitso-bitso...

Quote from: chriswise on April 27, 2011, 09:30:07 PM
aw o kay gi itos man una,,

Espiso diay kaayo kon maohon...

GPS-empowered...

Matuk-an man ko ana sa kabus-ok...

Giandaman nag tambal...

Sigi lang kay daghan man pud ang ningtoo nga way mga boot...

Bwahaha!

Mahumpay jud ang kaitok sa kabaw...

Init diay ang duga?

Ako gani kay pandesal bahaw gituslo sa kape nga lasaw...

Sinaw jud hinuon, humok ra ba jamo humbaa...