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If a governt owned public busing company authorized a poster like the one Ben shared with us, here in the United States, that would already be a violation of the Title III of the Civil Rights Act.

In such a case, the ACLU and other large Civil Rights Groups would be drawn to said case. I guarantee you that.

Freedom of expression is guaranteed to us by th 1st Ammendment and reiterated in the Bill of Rights, but each action carries the notion of responsibility; an example is the Litigation against the Westboro Baptist Church by family members of dead soldiers (in this case, the WBC actually protested the funeral of deceased soldiers with shouts saying "God Damn America" and/or "Thank God For IEDs" "America Is A Sodomite Nation and Soldiers Will Burn In Hell")

Sure their 1st ammendment right guarantees them to talk, however, when one ovesteps the boundaries and starts harrassing other individuals, religious discrimination and or libel charges can be filed.

Organizations such as the ACLU and other Civil Rights Watch Groups are very active here in the United States, I reiterate. And that is why such signs like the one Ben shared with us will not fare positively here in the United States. And am sure, lawsuits will be filed on the organization that ever posts this on public transportation buses.

By on that act, the transportation company would also be subject to a lawsuit.

Well, the flying into buildings, is very graphic for us Americans. 9/11 is very sensitive for us. And well, relating crashing of planes on a building--to the American--reminds of 9/11 and is demonizing said religion.

Which is indirectly pointing to Islam

Just a point.

Thanks for the clarification, Roy. Question lang ko, does not that statement fall within religious discrimination?

lol, we need an attorney in here to answer you questions, Roy.

Quote from: ayessa on March 06, 2009, 04:23:05 AM
but under which violation is done with this comment, " Religion flies you into buildings"?

This question we should direct to an attorney or a law student.

I am a Medical Student, not a law student, and thus am not too well versed in American Law and its processes.

We need an American Law Student's opinion. That or any Attorney that is experienced in civil rights cases etc.

I'll see if I can get Gerald to join this forum, lol.

Roy, there was a conference of Muslim Individuals in Canada, and whn the Muslim-Americans were detained and asked questions for their involvement in said conference, the organization sued the US Department of Homeland Security for violating religious freedom and rights.

I read this several months ago.

Here is the link:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A6225-2005Apr20.html

some related articles for side reading:
http://articles.latimes.com/2006/may/16/local/me-aclu16

Quote from: ayessa on March 06, 2009, 02:19:45 AM
Civil rights abuses? because of religion? is this a joke?  There is a freedom of speech and expression  and there is a doctrine of the separation of the church and of the state.  and where is the religious intolerance there?

let me talk to your friend, Civil law is a subject in Political Science in College and nothing reminds me of a civil case because of a comment on religion. 

Is there a civil case which can be filed because of this comment? " Religion flies you into buildings."
??

I am serious. The ACLU and other civil rights groups are very active here in the United States, Roy.

Race, and Religion is a very sensitive topic and subject here.

Is it different/similar over there in Germany?

Am sure there are English and/or Literary Majors that romanticize this so called 'Carabao English' lol.

I dated a girl who was a English Lit Major in college, and it always seemed as if she had an orgasm everytime she heard a southern accent. lol. I kid you not.

Quote from: fdaray on March 05, 2009, 08:14:12 AM
I do believe that Pilipinos are good in writing and communicating English to the whole world.

Bisan asang lugar sa kalibutan adunay Pinoy because they can communicate English.

Many Pinays are teaching   in USA.

I am proud of my carabao english.

The first English teachers in the country were the "Thomasites".

Does it mean that our carabao english derived from them?

Good point, Mr. Daray.

Now that I come to think of it, the British would look down on us Americans on how we pronounce 'their' language. lol.

Language changes as people changes; new words are added as different cultures, peoples begin to use it and apply their own diction to said language.

The language is English; but there are different variances of said language. There is British English (the original, and the way it was meant to have been said, prounounced and written), then there is the Australian form, New Zealander, American, Canadian, South African, Indian, etc etc. So on so forth.

Even Spanish, as an example.

Castillian Spanish (the language of Mother Spain/Northern Spain) has its own unique flair as compared to the Spanish spoken in say, Mexico, Argentina, Venezuela, Puerto Rico, Cuba, etc.

Carabao English is an example of colloquial diction. Poetic license.

That is very sweet, Roy. Yes, always pray and have faith in Our Lord God, who surrounds us with Angels to the blessed path. Hope you're doing fine over there in Deutschland.

Stay safe, be good.

Thanks for making this thread, Roy. I like it

For me, I have a special place in my heart for St. Gabriel. Mo turn man ko ni San Gabriel whenever I have difficulty, siya man ahong Patron Saint, and when I was confirmed to the Catholic Church in Easter 2007, I took the name of 'Gabriel' as my confirmation name.

I have a pendent with me at all times of the Blessed St. Gabriel the ArchAngel.
He was the herald of the Incarnation and the First Adorer of the Divine Word, Christ Jesus.

San Gabriel is always there for me whenever I am in hard times, and helps in difficult moments, by the Will of God.

lol, who doesn't like diniguan and puto?

c'mon yo. Even my white and black friends love that stuff.

Or as what Lee, John, Brian, Donny, and Bill would say, "Dude, got anymore of that Filipino chocolate stuff?"

hahaha!

Sarap na Sarap

correct ka, bol-anon-sinug-banon is the best.

Central Visayan Pride!

Quote from: ayessa on March 05, 2009, 05:01:11 PM
lawsuits? under which grounds? and where would they file it, in sharia courts? hahha

are sharia courts honored in the states?  pardon my ignorance, maybe it is honored. haha

Civil rights abuses, religious intolerance and such grounds. The ACLU (American Civil Liberties Union) is active in such. Multiple instances of this. I have a friend who is an attorney and works for the ACLU and specializes on such.

just finished 2 classes today. immediately ning adto ko sa cafe outside campus and ordered mexican chai latte. and english crackers.

sus lami'a sa chai.

More power to you, Mikey

lol. you never been bit by a woman before?

awww dude, you're missing the fun stuff. lol.

joke

hahaha, no no, my buddy back in college used to interchange the 'F' but ya.

No doubt. Chics should be treated with care and respect.

Cuz they bite. big time. Sometime even punch, scratch and yea, can't forget the 'screaming' part.

Ya, in fact, don't get the girls angry.

Making up is fun tho.

In the break of dawn.

Ya, so did this ever happen to you guys?
I mean, and how did you confront the situation?

I had indian tonight.

spicy.

lolz

Mike,

Its all about TLCAF when it comes to girls.

Tender Loving Care And Fun

My friends use the 'F' interchangeably tho, lol!!

roflmao!

Quote from: Nikon_D300 on March 04, 2009, 07:06:36 PM




If you're shooting wildlife, when you're composing the image, don't frame it so close that the animal has nowhere to go. In other words, give the animal some space in front of the direction it's going for a much stronger composition one that tells a story. If you crop in too tight and don't leave room for the animal to exit the frame, it's almost like trapping them in your shot, and the photo will look uncomfortable to the viewer. When you're composing in the viewfinder, leave some extra space to "run" in front of your subject, and your photo will be that much stronger for it.

Bonus - behind the lens

Kuyawa. Ka ingoon pood ta tinuud tong croc.

yikes.

hahaha, :X

hahahahahaha! katawa ko uy. palamuut kaayo.

Definitely.
This would never go well here in the 'states. Islamic groups would be filing lawsuits.

Anytime man. If you're ever in the east coast. Give me a ring.

LOL

Yes, sir, maka hinumdum pood ta lagi.
Mo singgit man siya ug i pound pood to iyang dughan, diba?

Kuyawa jud ning mga Intsik ug mga Indian. They actually wrote books on sex.

My advice lang: just listen to what the woman wants.

Give and take man jud ning situacion.

hahahaha, di uy.

lolz.

1. i don't know what bil-bil is; so i wont comment on that
2. hahaha i don't know what glacier's reference of 'eye bag' is.

So mo ingoon lang ko, "neither"

hahahahaha! pastilan, i need to strengthen my bisayan skills!

Sige,

Would you rather live on a boat or live on a tree house?

I don't think men need sex manuals.

It just comes naturally, yo.

Just follow the rhythm of the woman's body. As her heart throbs on your chest.

As the natural sweat of both bodies directs the motion of direction.

oh, did i get too graphic?

lol

puahahaha!

^proud lolo

<sentimental pero dili mo show

V ah, kinsa man ning tawhana ?

Bai Buwad is correct.

Just because one individual makes a mistake does not make the entire Church, and the billions of Roman Catholics around the world make them bad.

The 'CHURCH' is not just the physical building, my friends.

The 'ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH' is the people. The souls that are part of the Apostolic and ONE Church.

It is unfair, and very unchristian to blame the whole group and point fingers for the mistake of one individual.

Christ warned us about individuals like that:

"Stop judging, that you may not be judged. For as you judge, so will you be judged, and the measure with which you measure will be measured out to you.
Why do you notice the splinter in your brother's eye, but do not perceive the wooden beam in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, 'Let me remove that splinter from your eye,' while the wooden beam is in your eye? You hypocrite, remove the wooden beam from your eye first; then you will see clearly to remove the splinter from your brother's eye."
-Matthew 7: 1-5

I will admit that in the past, before taking multiple courses on Global Security and Policies in college, I didnt' really know about the true nature of the Chinese and their government. And when one studies history and international politics, you will understand that the Chinese are rather dubious in regards to politics.

Per se, an example, in 1962, before the Chinese invaded India's Aksai Chin and Arunal Pradesh State, the People's Republic of China sent its most trusted revolutionary politician, Zhou Enlai to meet and talk with Nehru regarding the hostility in the border. Enlai assured Nehru and the Indian Congress of the solidarity of the Chinese and of Beijing's promise to evade conflict between the two Asian Powers.

Days after his official state visit, The People's Republic of China launched the largest offensive of the PLA beyond China. Divisions of Chinese troops attacked Indian outposts in Aksai Chin and throughout A.Pradesh. The overwhelming Chinese offensive completely overtook the Indian defenders, who were numerically disadvantaged.

The war was due to the Chinese opposition to India's defense of the McMahon Line, the line that the British drew that set in place the territorial span of its Indian colony. Instead of dealing with the Indians peacefully, the Chinese utilized a rather dubious backstabbing tactic.

By:
1) Sending a highly respected official, Minister Zhou Enlai
2) Assuring the Indians that China will not utilize force--and reiterating the notion of 'Hindi-Chini Bhai Bhai' (Indian-Chinese Brotherhood)
3) And then Invading India outright.

As that is what the Chinese did in 1962; forcing the Indians to sue for peace.

Again, the Chinese government invaded Vietnam in 1979 to 'punish' Vietnam for toppling over the genocidal Khmer Rouge led by Pol Pot. The Chinese rationality was completely unfounded. They would rather maintain the Khmer Rouge because of its solidarity with Beijing, despite the fact that the Khmer Rouge was responsible for the deaths of over 2 million Cambodians (literally 1/4th of the entire country's population)
China, invaded and bombarded over 4 of Vietnam's northern provinces.

A total violation of national integrity and unity.

And now we, the Filipino People, are expected to completely and foolish trust the Chinese on their word? Absolutely not.

The Filipino and the Philippines is not a nation of fools, but a nation of educated individuals. The only reason why the Philippines has not bee invaded by the Chinese is due to the fact that we are an Archipelagoic nation. And China's limited naval capability.

For the mean time, it is undoubted that it is imperative that the Philippines maintain its claims for the preservation of National Integrity and Territoriality. It is our RIGHT to defend our territory and the soil of the Philippines. And critical to our defense is our alliance with the United States. Manila's close relationship with Washington, indeed, is a significant factor why the Philippines has not suffered a foreign war since its independence in 1946.

I for one, and am sure many of my Filipino countrymen agree with me on this, that we are lucky. And that it is the duty of the Filipino soldier and the Politicians in Government to ascertain The Manifest Destiny of the Philippine Fatherland.


Lorenzo

Quote from: Macky Ferniz on March 05, 2009, 06:46:40 AM
One of the reasons why we should have the Spratlys is because it is mostly un-inhabited. We can install a Nuclear Power Plant over there and transport electricity via cable to mainland. With this, it can solve our high cost of energy. We can run factories the clean, emission free way and has less threat to the population.

Indeed, Mr. Ferniz.

It is of strategic interest for the Republic due to its possible role in contributing to the Philippines--our own indigenous sustainable resource. And we have a reason for it. With the Republic's population soaring--and expected to hit over 100 Million in less than a decade, the Republic is hungry for energy.

The Scarborough Shoals and the Spratlys is the answer to our needs. The Philippines, literally, is sitting on top of a gold mine.

Another gold mine is the Marianas Trench that lies within Philippine Territorial Claims. The Marianas Trench is estimated to hold untold amount of billions of gallons of oil.
The oil is there; the Philippines merely needs to develop the method to extract it.

The Republic is rich in natural resources. All we have to do now, is to protect and ascertain our resources. And defend it from hungry mouths of our neighbours. Especially one that lies to our west. China is the largest threat to Philippine territorial sovereignty.

Thank You for the clarification, Glacier. And strengthening my position.

Quote from: preciousNpolite on March 05, 2009, 04:29:28 AM
By; PreciousNpolite

Just two days a go a bayut relative wife who is marreid to a 20 year retired Navy man from Chicago who lives with the couple held the American hostage in a cage for 12 hours with out food and water for half a day.

After being released the American national wnt immediatley to pnp Tagbilarsn to blotter this incident.

He discussed with me that he is planning tp prosecute his capturer.

The residence where this happenend took place just six houses away from Governor of Bohol.

Priscilla, so why did the bayut kidnap the American tourist?

ah salamat for the clarification. lol

Quote from: ben on March 05, 2009, 08:24:54 AM
I must give credit to the Catholics here.  The masses do promote a good feeling, they are uplifting.  This is in stark contrast to most of those that I have attended back in the UK, where they are rather somber and procedural affairs.

Back to our debate: the bus ads are not intended to evangelise.  They are meant to show the atheists / agnostics out there that they are not alone, no matter how much their views are frowned upon by respectable society.  As such I think they are a good thing.  Remember that in many places you can get into trouble if you deviate from the main religion.

Ben,

The church that I attend back home in New Jersey has a growing Filipino membership. Ug mo adto ko sa mass, clear kaayo gusto mo canta jud ang Pinoy members. When the liturgical worship songs begin, maka hear jud ko kinsay pinoy or not kay very 'into the song' jud sila. lingaw baya. I can't help but get motivated to sing louder pood. hahaha!

Kining mga pinoy--ug mo adto sa simbahan, mo pour out jud ni sila ilang problema ug ilang gugma sa Ginoo sa Langit.

Very humbling kaayo to observe it.

Quote from: buwadsanga on March 05, 2009, 08:24:36 AM
na unsa namanta ani oy! cool lang! way awajay! respect views lalo na ug inocent views!

cool heads prevail like obama baja!

ug ako mo adto sa ameroka kanang soroy2x lang di ko moanha para magtrabajo. streesssssfull ang layf, mingaw, unja mora kono kag robot sa taliwa sa urban jungle.

ug pohon ako mo anha sa amerika, sa Graceland jud ko mo deritso to feel elvis the pelvis unja off to NY sa MET. dajon cross country to florida for scuba diving. dajon sa las vegas aron hudton nako ang akong tanang kwarta mag sugal para sa mafia!

watta layf!!! 

Bai Buwad,

Sure ko, if you came here, you would love it here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCN0V11jb9s&feature=channel
Uncle Steve. Spit some lead on em, Uncle Steve!

hahahaha!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUQFFeONcdI&feature=channel

Mommy Wella and the 357 Magnum. LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esvWDwJQqdE&feature=channel_page
Mommy shooting an M-16 Assault Rifle.

At  shooting Range in South Jersey.

LOL!

Mommy, My Dad, Mommy Wella and Uncle Steve were here as well. lol

Bayut as in a homosexual or is there another meaning for this term?

Quote from: Macky Ferniz on March 05, 2009, 06:13:20 AM
Guam can not be called a country because of its size and it was also considered as part of Hawaii Mainland. It was utilised as a refueling station until the majority of its residents were those who were from American Mainland. Guam like the Philippines and Puertorico were bought by the Americans from the Spanish through Treaty of Paris.

In the case of Puerto Rico, it was only the people who were given US Citizenship Puerto Rico remained as a country. They have every right as Americans like to vote, but not inside Puertorican territory. They were given the previledge of US citizenship as reward because the US used them during world war 1. Only citizenship, but the country is theirs. See the generousity of the Americans.

Something about Guam.

lol.

Over 70% of the people in Guam are Filipinos or are Part Filipino.

Guam is more of a Philippines than Guam.

Mr. Ferniz,

This is an illustration of the level of modernity and growth Puerto Rico and its people enjoy under enlightened American Presence:


The city of San Juan, Puerto Rico


Note the infrastructure

Philippines and Cuba had different destinies compared to Puerto Rico and Guam.

Puerto Rico did not object to American presence, and the Puerto Ricans voted by majority vote to remain a Protectorate of the United States. This means that the Puerto Ricans have total autonomy. Regional and local control; they are given all the rights and benefits of the Americans, but don't have to pay US Taxes, ah that's the plus side.

Puerto Rico is the richest Caribbean island in the entire Caribbean. I have been to Puerto Rico, to San Juan.

I can say that the island is completely modernized. It is like being in the USA. Puerto Ricans speak not only Spanish, but also English. Infrastrucure is highly developed. Everything is overpriced in Puerto Rico. lol.

Philippines wanted independence, as it had a war with the US on that regard. The United States promised the Philippines independence, and thus it became a Commonwealth until its independence in 1946 (it was supposed to be in 1943, but the Japanese invasion postponed it).

haha, again, another point.

Many english majors that do their doctoral papers on the evolution of American Slang, Southern Diction, and compare it to middle, old english, would agree with that.

Language is not only a tool for communique, but is also a link to history.

Language evolves as epochs change. Phrases change; the way english was spoken say in the late 18th to early 19th century is is distinct to the english that we know of in the current epoch.

Engineer Ferniz, has a valid and powerful point.

Done

Good luck!

To All,

Please read:

https://www.afresearch.org/skins/rims/q_mod_be0e99f3-fc56-4ccb-8dfe-670c0822a153/q_act_downloadpaper/q_obj_bb3eaae1-2c81-4a57-8bcb-994146b48752/display.aspx?rs=enginespage

The Positive Relationship between the United States and The Philippines:


The mayor of Narra accepts the new newly constructed school building that was a joint construction project between the Philippine and U.S. Seabees is part of Cooperative Afloat Readiness and Training (CARAT) 2008.


The mayor of Narra and the wife of Commodore Ramon P. Espera, Jr., Commander of Naval Forces West cut the ribbon opening the newly constructed school building that was a joint construction project between the Philippine and U.S. Seabees is part of Cooperative Afloat Readiness and Training (CARAT) 2008


Philippine Commodore Ramon Espera, Commander Naval Forces West, Philippine Rear Admiral Petronilo Magno, Commander, Philippine Fleet, and U.S. Navy Captain Mike Selby, Commander Destroyer Squadron One discuss the training outcomes as they officially end of the first phase of the 14th annual Cooperation Afloat Readiness and Training (CARAT) training exercise in Puerto Princesa, during the closing ceremonies held today at the Philippine Naval Forces West.


Ensign Elizabeth Burnett makes a new friend at Bihay Ni Nanay children’s center in Puerto Princesa, Philippines during a Community Relations (COMREL) project

That will not happen.

Quote from: Macky Ferniz on March 05, 2009, 05:39:54 AM
Let me answer your question as to why we were not considered as US territory after two wars. When during that time, the Philippines was left defenseless.

It was simply because of the following reasons:
1. The US had greater problem of rebuilding thier nation after the war which they kept as priority.

2. After two successive wars, America gained a clean image as liberators, educators and freedom fighters. They sort of maintained that reputation. If they had acquired the Philippines as one of thier state or territories, it would spoil thier image and they would have labeled as emperialist. So, if you thought the America is an emperialist nation, then why had they not captured Japan when it surrendered and defenseless?

3. During the war, many lives were lost. A word is worth a thousand lives and materialism is only limited to utility, money have no value and heroism is flaming inside every american heart. Should Mc Arthur had forgotten his words, we would not be liberated from Japanese tyranny.

It was a totaly different situation then and now that both can not be equated.

I believe that it was the immature/unqualified Philippine leadership after the liberation that led us to this present misery.

America has changed over the years. Many of its known enemies are now integrated in its society and enjoying its freedom. They may now be a different race, but I believe that America still follows the ideals of G.I. Joe.

Mr. Ferniz,

I have done medical precepts in many hospitals in college, and when I did a medical intership in the Cleveland Clinic (the 3rd largest medical center in the USA) in summer of 2007, i did a rotation in podiatric surgery and podiatric orthopaedics with some colleagues and it was at the VA (Veteran's Affairs) Hospital system--linked with the Cleveland Clinic.

Many geriatric patient there that were suffering from peripheral neuropathy were veterans in the Pacific.

When they found out that I was Filipino-American, they told me of their stories and personal experiences. Such beautiful stories and heart-warming experiences that they had. One veteran was in Borgos, Leyte, and talked about how the Filipinos gave rice covered in banana leaves to the US soldiers; and some even recounted eating Filipino "odobo" hahahaha.

It is evident, sir, that the American veterans, military, of the past and the present have a warm place in their heart for the Philippines. It is why the United States will not suffer to have the Philippines attacked ever again.

The two nations are just too close.

Back to the topic,

This is an illustration of the competing claims of said region.


On region

and on the US presence in the Philippines:

Let the legal processes proceed. I have faith in justice.

Let us stick to the main topic, shall we. I said earlier, you may open a thread concerning that litigation if you are so concerned about it.

That has nothing to do with The Philippine's Claim to the Spratly's.

Why would the Philippines go on the offensive? We are in defensive. The Kalayaan group is within Philippine-Claimed territory and is recognized by the United States as so. The provision of said treaty guarantees that any foreign attack of any islands, vessels, planes, metropolitan areas will warrant the other party's response.

It is evident to us, clearly, that the United States has vested interest in the Philippines. It has a large military base in Basilan, and opening smaller bases throughout Mindanao. The CARAT exercises and annual training between US Marines and Philippine Marines has solidified the military defense initiatives of both nations.

The high American military activity in the Philippines (naval, air, and ground) complements the strategic initiatve to strengthen the American Triangle in the region, Guam as the largest military base in the Pacific, outside of Hawaii.

The US Navy and the Philippine Navy are very close. Both have done military exercises by the South China Sea. Clearly, a warning to the Chinese.

Besides, Americans love Filipinos and Filipinos love Americans. ehem, LOL


Sing that song, baby.

Quote from: ayessa on March 05, 2009, 04:20:56 AM
Our 1987 Constitution [Art. II, Sec. 8] provides: "The Philippines, consistent with the national interest, adopts and pursues a policy of freedom from nuclear weapons in its territory."

Now, what are you talking about nuclear umbrella when it is even unconstitutional in the Philippines?

The American Nuclear Umbrella covers not only the Republic of the Philippines, but also South Korea, Japan, and Taiwan. These said nations are integral strategic allies of the United States of America in Asia-Pacific.

The same can be said for the United States's involvement in NATO in regards to nuclear threat by hostile powers, namely; Russia and its Bloc.

The American Nuclear Umbrella simply means the deterrance of a nuclear attack is guaranteed. The United States' position to any antagonist nation that ever launches a nuclear warhead on the United States and or its NATO/Strategic Defense allies is called: M.A.D

Otherwise known as Mutual Assured Destruction. If nation XYZ launches a nuclear warhead on an American military base or a strategic military ally will receive a full complement by the United States. One super thermonuclear missile that the United States has in its arsenal is enough to completely glass an area equivalent to half of France. (To provide an illustration on the totality of nuclear power).

The United States will not launch any of its tens of thousands of ICBMs first. The only time the United States will launch its ICBMs is if it and or any of its allies is attacked first by a nuclear warhead.

The United State's policy on this is total. If nation XYZ launches 1 or 2 nuclear warheads on Philippines, per se, the United States will deliver a crushing and decapitation strike. It will launch a full complement of ICBMs on said aggressor (meaning dozens of ICBMs). Enough to glass and neutralize the said aggressor. And the United States has that capability anytime anywhere around the world. As hundreds of America's Nuclear Submarines have the ability to cloak and avoid enemy radar.

This is why is regarded as a 'NUCLEAR UMBRELLA'. America's position on this is solidified and total. A deterrent.

Where was it explicitly said that there are American nuclear arsenal in the Philippines?

I do reiterate the strategic intiative both parties have, the Mutual Defense Treaty between the United States of America and the Republic of the Philippines.

As it is stated to us by the Treaty:


Reaffirming their faith in the purpose and principles of the Charter of the United Nations and their desire to live in peace with all peoples and all governments, and desiring to strengthen the fabric of peace in the Pacific area.

Recalling with mutual pride the historic relationship which brought their two peoples together in a common bond of sympathy and mutual ideals to fight side-by-side against imperialist aggression during the last war.

Desiring to declare publicly and formally their sense of unity and their common determination to defend themselves against external armed attack, so that no potential aggressor could be under the illusion that either of them stands alone in the Pacific area.

Desiring further to strengthen their present efforts for collective defense for the preservation of peace and security pending the development of a more comprehensive system of regional security in the Pacific area.

Agreeing that nothing in this present instrument shall be considered or interpreted as in any way or sense altering or diminishing any existing agreements or understandings between the Republic of the Philippines and the United States of America.

Have agreed as follows:

Article I. The parties undertake as set forth in the Charter of the United Nations, to settle any international disputes in which they may be involved by peaceful means in such a manner that international peace and security and justice are not endangered and to refrain in their international relation from the threat or use of force in any manner inconsistent with the purposes of the United Nations.

Article II. In order more effectively to achieve the objective of this Treaty, the Parties separately and jointly by self-help and mutual aid will maintain and develop their individual and collective capacity to resist armed attack.

Article III. The Parties, through their Foreign Ministers or their deputies, will consult together from time to time regarding the implementation of this Treaty and whenever in the opinion of either of them the territorial integrity, political independence or security of either of the Parties is threatened by external armed attack in the Pacific.

Article IV. Each Party recognizes that an armed attack in the Pacific area on either of the Parties would be dangerous to its own peace and safety and declares that it would act to meet the common dangers in accordance with its constitutional processes.

Any such armed attack and all measures taken as a result thereof shall be immediately reported to the Security Council of the United Nations. Such measures shall be terminated when the Security Council has taken the measures necessary to restore and maintain international peace and security.

Article V. For purposes of ARTICLE IV, an armed attack on either of the Parties is deemed to include an armed attack on the metropolitan territory of either of the Parties, or on the island territories under its jurisdiction in the Pacific Ocean, its armed forces, public vessels or aircraft in the Pacific.

Article VI. This Treaty does not affect and shall not be interpreted as affecting in any way the rights and obligations of the parties under the Charter of the United Nations or the responsibility of the United Nations for the maintenance of international peace and security.

Article VII. This Treaty shall be ratified by the Republic of the Philippines and the United States of America in accordance with their respective constitutional processes and will come into force when instruments of ratification thereof have been exchanged by them at Manila.

Article VIII. This Treaty shall remain in force indefinitely. Either Party may terminate it one year after notice has been given to the other party.

In witness whereof the undersigned Plenipotentiaries have signed this Treaty.

Done in duplicate at Washington this thirtieth day of August, 1951.

http://www.lawphil.net/international/treaties/mutdef.html

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With that said, any attack on the Republic of the Philippines will not be tolerated by the United States of America, and as a strategic ally of the Republic of the Philippines, since the independence of the Philippines in 1946, and ever since then, has upheld its strategic defense requirement and obligation, as well as liberated the islands from Japanese aggression in the Great Pacific War.

An attack on the Republic of the Philippines by a foreign power, or any engagement of its vessels within its territory will elicit an American Response.

Any nuclear attack on the Philippines will be met by an immediate response by the United States, which will also be a nuclear response. The United States percieves any attack on any of its allies as a direct attack on the United States of America Itself.

The United States sent its 6th Army and its entire 5th Air Force to liberate the Philippines from Japanese Occupation in 1944, suffering 62,000 losses for the liberation of the Philippines, and launching the largest naval invasion in the continuum of Human History. That has not been seen the likes of, since the days of the Iliad.

I think it is evident to us, Americans and Filipinos of the totality of the United States in its promises and in its military precision in regards to its national interest and its promises to its strategic allies.

With the United States, the Armed Forces of the Republic of the Philippines was able to single handedly crush the insurrectionists in the Hukbalahap War, need I remind.

Thanks.

We are not debating about American historical antagonism in regards to the Philippines. We are studying the territorial nature of the Spratly's in regards to the Republic of the Philippines.

You may discuss the litigation and your opinion on said litigation on another thread.

You are, however, free to open that discussion on another thread.

One other thing that I found rather interesting that we covered several semesters ago in a Global Policy course was the topic of military bullying power. Clearly this is made manifest regarding the Chinese, when the PRC invaded Vietnam in 1979 in an attempt to 'punish' the Socialist Government of Vietnam for invading Cambodia and removing Pol Pot from power, who was, also, supported by the Beijing Government.

Again, another example is in 1962 during the Sino-Indo Border war regarding the province of Aksai Chin and Pradesh.

And yet again in the early 90's when China's battle sorties engaged the Vietnamese over control over disputed Spratly's.

China, uniquely, and interestingly, has never sent naval forces to engage the Philippine surface fleet. Is it a coincidence? Absolutely sure that the American presence and relationship with the Philippines is a detractive factor. The Philippines, a strategic ally, enjoys American Nuclear Umbrella.

Cheers,
Bran Lorenzo

In The Ukraine,
To refuse an offer to drink vodka is an insult.
Personal experience. Thankfully, i learned to correct that. lol

Engineer Ferniz, I await your response.

Quoted by Engineer Ferniz,

QuoteIn my own analysis, America is now fighting an Economic War.

Since year 2000, most of American Owned Companies are being acquired by outsiders like MGM is bought by a Japanese, Disneyland is partly acquired by Europeans, many brands that were american origin and are considered the american legacy are now owned by Europeans and Japanese. One of the best example is Ray-Ban, the best known american symbol, popularized by Mc Arthur, branded as since 1947, the company who designed the multi layered RB50 anti radiation lens of Apollo worn by the Neil Armstrong, the American Pride is acquired by Luxottica Group, an optical Giant in Italy. Marlboro, Nestle and many others are partly acquired by a German group. These are just example. I can see many companies in the US are failing and the situation is worsening.

Since China, is known to be the biggest source of counterfeit products and biggest threat to the American business, the US did a fire fighting strategy by puting its factories in China to compete with counterfeit. By doing so, they could closely monitor and control those counterfeit producers. At the same time, the US enjoys cheap labor. In the process, the US gained control and influence over Chinas economy.

In conclusion, if the US says get out of Spratlys, China will do without hesitation.

On the other hand, I doubt if the US has tolerated China's oil exploration activities at Spratlys in order to fuel thier factories which are also owned by the US?

So, back to Chez Escudero, he is a fighter. I can feel his passion and determination. A brave young guy and surely he will be a promising figure in Philippine politics. However, I have not seen enough caliber to surpass that of Ninoy Aquino and other great pinoys. I don't think he could change the face of our country as a president.

Engineer, this is true. In addition to your statement, it is evident to us that China's largest trading partner is the United States of America. China's largest investor is the United States. Due to this constant supply of American need for cheap Chinese product, which fuels and stems Chinese industrialization and modernization, the Chinese will be weary in supporting methods that would alienate and distance Washington from Beijing. To do so is uncalculated political idiocy and suicide.

That is why the Chinese have yet to invade and retaken Taiwan. (Taiwan is claimed by China, and at the same time, the United States is an economic and military ally of Taiwan--provides military arsenal to the Taiwanese--and thus as a result have detracted the PRC from invading Taiwan. The US 7th fleet also actively patrols the Straits of Taiwan and the Sea of Japan. China knows that America will not allow the Chinese to touch Taiwan. It is the American defense strategy to 'keep Taiwan'. Taiwan is imperative and crucial for the maintenance of American Hegemony in Asia-Pacific.

China's shear economic dependency on the United States is critical for the sustained economic growth of the Chinese. If the United States is to withdraw total economic trade with China, the Chinese will suffer a massive economic collapse.

An economic collapse, in China, is wanton for revolution and would fuel civil unrest.

The Chinese and the Americans know the sensitivity of the situation. And The United States of America, as a strategic Unilateral Hyperpower knows of the politics and internal-regional dynamics of the situation.

China realizes this, as well.

Adaptive reasoning.

Chimpanzees, like humans, are part of the family of the Primates.
Chimpanzees, unlike other animals, have a large cerebellum, and cerebrum (responsible for higher function, reasoning, thought, calculation, speech-communication. )

Other continuum of animals lack a large cerebral cortex as well as cerebellar aqueducts.

Simple ra man ni.

Quote from: Macky Ferniz on March 04, 2009, 10:31:26 PM
Language is only an instrument of expression.

Like shoes, you can not run fast because you wear a Nike, but you will look attractive running with a Nike.

Creative analogy, Engineer. Ferniz.

Salamat, sir.

Let us not get bogged down on personal insults, as the rammifications in acquiescing to that is unecessary. Let those with different opinions speak their mind. The creator of Tubag Bohol meant for us to invoke the spirit of democracy.

However, be assured that I will intervene if personal attacks are exchanged. With freedoms, come responsibility.

Mabuhay ang tanang Pilipino!
Mabuhay ang mga Anak ni Dagohoy!
Ang Bol-anon!
Isug Jud Ning Bol-anon!

For those who are interested in discussing the Philippine Sovereignty regarding the Spratly's as well as the Sabah State, I made a thread, and any and all comments regarding the specificity of the claims, military scenarios, are all welcome.

It is interesting to see the different points of view regarding the said topic, as it validates the concern of the Filipino to the integrity, continuity, and solidarity of the Philippine Fatherland, its territories within and without.

The link to the thread is:
http://tubagbohol.mikeligalig.com/index.php?topic=18418.0


Firmly Yours,
Bran Lorenzo

Quote from: A Layman on March 05, 2009, 12:50:40 AM
Kalayo ra ang China sa Spratley! From what point did they base with their claims? That the Spratley Group of Islands is within the China Sea? Mao ba ni diay? Gonggong jod ning mga intsek! Hay, uli na la ko Sina, lugi ako negosyo. Hatag na ko kwarta GMA para pati Pinas ako a na pero wa pa gihapoy silbe, Senado o Kongreso harang. Lentsik jod Oi!

Absolutely. That is the point, the Chinese are totally violating the Economic Exclusive Zone protocol. They are building small placated bases close to Republican Provincial territory. These islands are beyond Chinese soil. China is a huge nation; stretching all the way west to Eurasia and claiming even parts of Kashmir, with India and Pakistan.

Same with Vietnam. Clearly, these islands, based on proximity to the Republic of the Philippines. It is of national importance that the Republic maintains ur claim and our control of said islands. It is of strategic national importance.

Illustration of the disputed region.

Note that the Philippines is the true contender. The Spratlys are within the proxmity Philippine Space. Due to its shear proxmity to Palawaan, itself. Palawaan, being an integral province of the Republic.

This is why the Republic of the Philippines is active and openly voices concern.
And it has been the judicial expertise of the Philippines and it politicians, that have facilitated dialogue and mutual respect between the Chinese and The Filipino sides.

Spratly Islands

The South China Sea is defined by the International Hydrographic Bureau as the body of water stretching in a Southwest to Northeast direction, whose southern border is 3 degrees South latitude between South Sumatra and Kalimantan (Karimata Straits), and whose northern border is the Strait of Taiwan from the northern tip of Taiwan to the Fukien coast of China. The South China Sea region is the world's second busiest international sea lane. More than half of the world's supertanker traffic passes through the region's waters. In addition, the South China Sea region contains oil and gas resources strategically located near large energy-consuming countries.

The South China Sea encompasses a portion of the Pacific Ocean stretching roughly from Singapore and the Strait of Malacca in the southwest, to the Strait of Taiwan (between Taiwan and China) in the northeast. The area includes more than 200 small islands, rocks, and reefs, with the majority located in the Paracel and Spratly Island chains. The Spratlys links the Pacific Ocean and the Indian Ocean. All its islands are coral, low and small, about 5 to 6 meters above water, spread over 160,000 to 180,000 square kilometers of sea zone (or 12 times that of the Paracels), with a total land area of 10 square kilometers only. The Paracels also has a total land area of 10 square kilometers spread over a sea zone of 15,000 to 16,000 square kilometers.

Many of these islands are partially submerged islets, rocks, and reefs that are little more than shipping hazards not suitable for habitation. The islands are important, however, for strategic and political reasons, because ownership claims to them are used to bolster claims to the surrounding sea and its resources.

The South China Sea is rich in natural resources such as oil and natural gas. These resources have garnered attention throughout the Asia-Pacific region. Until recently, East Asia's economic growth rates had been among the highest in the world, and despite the current economic crisis, economic growth prospects in the long-term remain among the best in the world. This economic growth will be accompanied by an increasing demand for energy. Over the next 20 years, oil consumption among developing Asian countries is expected to rise by 4% annually on average, with about half of this increase coming from China. If this growth rate is maintained, oil demand for these nations will reach 25 million barrels per day - more than double current consumption levels -- by 2020.

Almost of all of this additional Asian oil demand, as well as Japan's oil needs, will need to be imported from the Middle East and Africa, and to pass through the strategic Strait of Malacca into the South China Sea. Countries in the Asia-Pacific region depend on seaborne trade to fuel their economic growth, and this has led to the sea's transformation into one of the world's busiest shipping lanes. Over half of the world's merchant fleet (by tonnage) sails through the South China Sea every year. The economic potential and geopolitical importance of the South China Sea region has resulted in jockeying between the surrounding nations to claim this sea and its resources for themselves.

Military skirmishes have occurred numerous times in the past two decades. The most serious occurred in 1976, when China invaded and captured the Paracel Islands from Vietnam, and in 1988, when Chinese and Vietnamese navies clashed at Johnson Reef in the Spratly Islands, sinking several Vietnamese boats and killing over 70 sailors.

The disputed areas often involve oil and gas resources:

    * Indonesia's ownership of the gas-rich Natuna Island group was undisputed until China released an official map indicating that the Natunas were in Chinese-claimed waters.
    * The Philippines' Malampaya and Camago natural gas and condensate fields are in Chinese-claimed waters.
    * Many of Malaysia's natural gas fields located offshore Sarawak also fall under the Chinese claim.
    * Vietnam and China have overlapping claims to undeveloped blocks off the Vietnamese coast. A block referred to by the Chinese as Wan' Bei-21 (WAB-21) west of the Spratly Islands is claimed by the Vietnamese in their blocks 133, 134, and 135. In addition, Vietnam's Dai Hung (Big Bear) oil field is at the boundary of waters claimed by the Chinese.
    * Maritime boundaries in the gas-rich Gulf of Thailand portion of the South China Sea have not been clearly defined. Several companies have been signed exploration agreements but have been unable to drill in a disputed zone between Cambodia and Thailand.

Most of these claims are historical, but they are also based upon internationally accepted principles extending territorial claims offshore onto a country's continental shelf, as well as the 1982 United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea.

The 1982 convention created a number of guidelines concerning the status of islands, the continental shelf, enclosed seas, and territorial limits. Three of the most relevant to the South China Sea are:

   1. Article 3, which establishes that "every state has the right to establish the breadth of its territorial sea up to a limit not exceeding 12 nautical miles";
   2. Articles 55 - 75 define the concept of an Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ), which is an area up to 200 nautical miles beyond and adjacent to the territorial sea. The EEZ gives coastal states "sovereign rights for the purpose of exploring and exploiting, conserving and managing the natural resources, whether living or non-living, of the waters superjacent to" (above) "the seabed and of the seabed and its subsoil..."
   3. Article 121, which states that rocks that cannot sustain human habitation or economic life of their own shall have no exclusive economic zone or continental shelf.

The establishment of the EEZ created the potential for overlapping claims in semi-enclosed seas such as the South China Sea. These claims could be extended by any nation which could establish a settlement on the islands in the region. South China Sea claimants have clashed as they tried to establish outposts on the islands (mostly military) in order to be in conformity with Article 121 in pressing their claims.

In mid-1991, fresh from diplomatic success in helping to end the Cambodian civil war, Indonesia took the initiative in seeking to open multilateral negotiations on competitive South China Sea claims, especially those claims involving jurisdictional disputes over the Spratly Islands. Indonesia has taken a leading role in diplomatic initiatives and cooperative agreements to resolve South China Sea issues, particularly through the ASEAN (Association of Southeast Asian Nations) forum, which has called for the peaceful arbitration of territorial claims. ASEAN includes all South China Sea nations except for China and Taiwan, and has held a number of working groups with China and Taiwan on related issues that have the potential to foster the cooperation and friendship needed to resolve the more contentious issues in the region. Indonesia hosted the first of these workshops in 1990. The ASEAN foreign ministers have reiterated the invitations to all parties directly concerned to subscribe to the principles of the ASEAN Declaration on the South China Sea.

In late 1998 the presidents of China and the Philippines agreed to form a committee of experts to advise on confidence-building measures.

In late November 1999 officials of ASEAN agreed to draft a regional code of conduct to prevent conflicts over the Spratly Islands in advance of the ASEAN summit in Manila. The Philippines, which drafted much of the proposed code, sought to align ASEAN's members in a common stance against what it saw as Chinese expansionism in the Spratlys. China agreed to hold talks with ASEAN member nations on the newly formulated draft code of conduct. But China, which claims the entire South China Sea, signalled it was not ready to agree to the ASEAN draft. Vietnam wanted the code to cover the Paracels while Malaysia did not want the code to refer to all of the South China Sea. China, which is not an ASEAN member and claims all of the islands, opposed inclusion of the Paracels in the code. Australia pressed for the proposed code to include a moratorium on the occupation of reefs and atolls or building on them.

In January 2000 photographs of Mischief Reef in the Spratly Islands were shown to the foreign ministers of the other eight ASEAN countries by Philippine foreign minister, Domingo Siazon. The photographic evidence showed that China had expanded installations on the reef since 1995, when it first started building what it said were shelters for fishermen. There are now four sites on the reef with installations that could be connected to form a fortress, like Gibraltar, or a five-star hotel for fishermen.

Southeast Asian countries, concerned that Beijing might be strengthening its claim to much of the South China Sea, called for restraint and strict observance of international law in a high-level meeting with China in January 2000.

On 04 November 2002 the Governments of the Member States of ASEAN and the Government of the People's Republic of China signed the "Declaration on the Conduct of Parties in the South China Sea." The Parties undertook to exercise self-restraint in the conduct of activities in the South China Sea that would complicate or escalate disputes and affect peace and stability including, among others, refraining from action of inhabiting on the presently uninhabited islands, reefs, shoals, cays, and other features and to handle their differences in a constructive manner.

China and the Philippines have discussed possible joint exploration for petroleum in the disputed Spratly Islands in the South China Sea. The speaker of the Philippine House of Representatives, Jose de Venecia, said the chairman of China's parliament, Wu Bannguo, made the proposal 31 August 2003 during talks in Manila. China also pledged to increase investment in the Philippines. Chinese Foreign Minister Li Zhaoxing vowed to increase investments in the Philippines to match the growing Philippine investment in China. The two ministers also discussed the territorial disputes in the South China Sea.

In September 2003 representatives of the Philippines, China and other claimant countries of the Spratly Islands signed a declaration of peace to promote the development of the resources in the disputed islands. The declaration was signed at the Asian Association of Parliaments for Peace (AAPP) conference in the Philippines.

In March 2005, the national oil companies of China, the Philippines, and Vietnam signed a joint accord to conduct marine seismic experiments in the Spratly Islands for economic purposes.

Suggested confidence-building measures among claimant countries include joint research and development in the Spratlys. Among the suggestions to enhance the development of the Spratly Islands include the creation of a marine park; establishment of a South China Sea Institute for Marine Resources Management, conducting a joint survey and assessment of the mineral and hydrocarbon potential and implementation of maritime safety and surveillance measures.

Source:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/war/spratly.htm

Quote from: glacier_71 on March 05, 2009, 12:09:48 AM
it's not just the Chinese who claims part of the spratly's. the vietnam, burma and thailand too. why they just don't make it an international collaboration to develop what's in there?

What is in effect is the International Code of Conduct in the Law of the Sea.
ASEAN and China through dialogue have tried to work out differences to inspect the region, regarding different claimant's rights.

The Philippine Surface Fleet, openly and actively sends sorties to Republican-occupied Kalayaan Group. The Chinese SOCOM also actively sends sorties to its region of control from its bases from Hainan and Guangzhaou. The Vietnamese Navy also sends sorties to protect its territorial claim.

The Malaysian, Indonesian, and Singaporean claimants are not so active in the Spratlys as they claim mostly the southern chain--closer to their zone of control.

The three contending powers--namely, The Republic of the Philippines, People's Republic of China and Vietnam hold on to significant shoals and islands that are large in size.

Quote from: Datu Dagohoy on March 04, 2009, 04:53:22 PM
Ang mga Pinoy diha sa US looy kaayo kay Gilalo lang mo sa Americano, Why?   gipa-anha mo para magtrabaho di ba?   Karon usa usahon nato aron inyong masabtan ug maayo nganong nasulti ko niani.

Gipa-anha ang mga Pinoy diha, karon magbayad siempre ang looy'ng Pinoy ng Visa O uban papelis sa Gov't ng America, magbayad puy-anan nga tag-iya Americano, mupalit ug sakyanan ug mga gamit sa balay, pagkaon sa genosyanting Americano, bayad sa currente, tubig sa Gov't parin ng America,   (kining tanan may VAT na nga mapadulong sa Gov't ng America)

Usa pa , ana-a pay direct nga income tax. 

sa tinood lang kong kwentahon tanan ang malimpyo lang sa usa ka Pinoy sa iyang income kada buwan ay more or less 40 % lang sa iyang swueldo. mao na ka difficult mamoyo sa America, Autralia ug Canada.

ang Conclusion sa padayon nga pag-imbeta ug Pinoy ang Gov't ng America, tungod kay nakita nila nga dako ang maitabang ang Pinoy sa pagunlad sa ilang Gov't. ang looy ang mga Pinoy nga gihuthutan lang sa Goerno ng America.

Datz,

The average Filipino-American has one of the highest GDP percapita her ein the United States. On average ra, Americans will year about $45,000 annually. The Filipino-American earns on average $62,000-$65,000. One Filipino-American's annual income is almost equivalent to the annual income of an American Family (around $70-80,000).

Additionally, here in the United States, even if one is in economic hardship and distress, there is the welfare system that provides economic support for those who are experiencing hardships.

The United States' system address such situations, that are not even addressed in the Philippines.

It is best to research and make an informed comment on anything. Lest we make grievances in propagating incorrect/flawed information.


Yours,
Lorenzo

Blessed Mother Theresa shares a message.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TA3Ujz5r3_g&feature=channel_page

Both the Rosary and the Real Presence of Christ together. How can anyone think about the Gospels, and not see Mary is there in the begining and in the end of the Gospels.

Glacier, how would you compare the Filipina to other women, from your relationships?

The Spratleys is sitting above billions upon billions of natural gas reserves.

This is why The United States will not allow China to drill and take hold, this is why the Philippine will not relinquish its claims to the islands; clearly it is of national importance.

And also, the Philippine-claimed and occupied Spratleys fall within the 300 mile National Exclusive Zone Right.

For the Philippines to relinquish its national claim and right is to abandon foreign policy. Quite frankly this is the most important foreign policy the Philippines has in its plate. Second to that is the Sabah State.

The Republic of the Philippines, a nation of a population that will soon exceed 100 Million, clearly has a need and national prerogative to secure energy supplies. The Kalayaan Group (Philippine-Claimed and occupied Spratleys) is pivotal and is of the utmost national importance for national solidarity and energy supply.

It is important to note that China and Vietnam had a naval clash concerning the Chinese-Vietnamese claimed Spratleys. Vietnam lost a considerable amount of its ships to secure its territory. This is the bullying power of the People's Republic of China.

The Philippines does not tolerate bullying by the Chinese.

The Chinese already come illegally to fish in the Philippines, violating the Law of the Republic of Philippines, which have been promulgated by the elected officials of and by the Filipino People. Hundreds if not thousands of Chinese illegal fishing incidents have been documented and the Philippine Navy has adopted a 'ram' initiative.

Clearly, one realizes the importance and imperative nature for the Philippines to ascertain its national territorial right and the realization of Manifest Destiny.

Kuyawa.

My salutes.

An Officer of the US Naval Fleet.

This man is one of many thousands that serve to protect the United States of America!

America's Brave and Proud Sons and Daughters!

GOD BLESS THE AMERICAN EAGLE!

In one of the pictures, Mr. Ferniz, I can see that the F/A-18's hull reads, 'El Paso, Texas'.

Then in the last picture I can tell that that is the WWII Memorial in Honolulu, Hawaii.

Officer ni siya in a US Nuclear Super Air Craft Carrier. No doubt.

Quote from: Macky Ferniz on March 04, 2009, 05:51:15 AM
Lorenzo, one of my classmate and good friend is working inside the USS Ronald Reagan

Meet the guy:

Mr. Ferniz, your friend is an officer of the US Navy. Kuyawa, he's in service in a carrier. Stationed siya sa PACCOM or sa CENTCOM?

That is so cool, in the background is a US F/A-18 Superhornet.

Carrier-based Air Supremacy Tactical Fighter.

These fighters are untouchable, second only to the F/A-22 Raptor.

Lol, if you go to a mall in the United States, I guarantee you; you will see A Pinay with an American boyfriend or husband.

Specially Fil-Ams, we date our fellow Americans, yo. Doesn't matter, now. USA is a mixed and multiethnic nation. We are the nation of the World. I mean, our own president is a mixed-race man. Half black, half white.

If the pinay dates a white, black, asian man. Who cares. Thats her decision. And if the white man, black man, asian man, latino man is married or dating a pinay. That a good thing. He loves her.

Live and let live.

This illustrates the Tactical-Military Alliance of the Republic of the Philippines and The United States of America:


Philippine and American Marines


The brothers in Arms.
Philippine Marines and American Marines in Jungle Warefare. In the Philippines


Renewed Alliance. USA and Philippines


Philippine and US Navies in exercise
CARAT 2008


Philippine Navy Missile Boat


Combined Philippine-American Naval Flotilla
Carat 2008
Took Place in the South China Sea region.

Okay let us examine this logically and in regards to the powers at play.

The Republic of the Philippines is a strategic ally of the United States and is a participating member of the United States' Pacific Command's CARAT exercise annually. The United States Navy PACOM (Pacific Command: which is based throughout Guam, Japan, Korea, Taiwan, and Hawaii) works closely with the Philippine Combined Fleet in anti-piracy activities as well as worked together to augmenting the fire parity of the Philippine Surface Fleet.

Part of the assurance the Alliance the Philippines has with The United States is a guaranteed Nuclear Umbrella. The United States' policy in this is to defend the territorial sovereignty of the United States and its overseas strategic allies/partners. The Philippines, being a strategic partner since the independence of the Philippines from the United States in July 4, 1946.

Let us accept the honest truth. The United States has vested interest in the Philippines, either we choose to accept this reality, it is still fact. The United States' interest in the Philippines was well illustrated when it invaded the Philippines in 1944 to reclaim the Islands from Japanese occupation, thought the United States had an option to bypass the Philippines, they, however, showed and solidified American-Filipino strategic interests by launching the largest naval invasion in the continuum of Human History.

The American Naval Flotilla that was launched to retake the Philippines included an expeditionary scout force of Marines that numbered over 50,000. The United States entire 6th Army landed in Leyte and poured out and overwhelmed any and all Japanese defenders (all 300,000+). The United States unleashed the United States 5th Air Force that took over the air and paved the way for the liberation of the Philippines.

Japan's entire defense force was wiped out; suffering a casualty rate of 300,000+.
The United States Marines and Army lost 62,000 casualties in retaking the Philippines.

America, willingly, sacrificed over 60,000+ of its boys to free the Philippines.
That is equivalent to 6 Divisions being eradicated for the liberation of the Philippines.
Note that they had the option in bypassing the Philippines as what MacArthur was advised by the High Command, to use the "Island Hopping" tactic, but MacArthur and his staff determined that the Philippines was too important, strategically, to the United States to remain under foreign/enemy control.

By keeping his word to 'Return', he set precedence between the two nations.

Now on the topic of China using nuclear attacks on the Philippines, this is impossible and highly improbably. So long as the Chinese want to prosper and attain economic success, which I am confident that they do, they will evade such a suicidal option.

The United States abides by M.A.D (Mutually Assured Destruction). Meaning if any hostile power launches a nuclear warhead on the United States, its territories abroad, and any of its strategic allies, the United States will uphold its national interest and interests of said ally. This is called a 'Nuclear Umbrella'.

So, if China does happen to launch a tactical Nuclear ICBM (intercontinental ballistic missile) on the Philippines, the United States' response would be to Launch a volley of its own ICBM Thermonuclear Missiles on China. It will vaporize and literally 'Glass' all of China as a result.

America has bases in Basilan and throughout Mindanao. And those bases are recognized as American soil/'territory'. An attack on the Philippines will be translated by the United States Military as an attack on the United States of America, itself.

China isn't stupid enough to do so.

It is one of the only reasons why China has not engaged the Philippine Surface Fleet regarding the Kalayaan Group. China knows that Uncle Sam's Nuclear Submarine Wolf Packs and half of the United States' 18 Super Air Craft Carriers and support ships patrol the pacific. And definitely inside Philippine Waters.



No nation will invade the Philippines. Why would they?
The Philippines has a really, really, really powerful friend.
The American HyperPower.

lol

Quote from: Dot (.) on February 21, 2009, 06:54:11 PM

No. Many Boholanos find it more interesting gawking at foreign tourists on the sand without their tops on.

It's a pity that many Boholanos do not have the opportunity (or the interest) to see the beauty of our underwater treasurers.

And when the beautiful Filipina is abroad in Europe or in North America, I can guarantee to you that foreign men will gawk at her beauty.

Human nature. One cannot help what nature has mandated.

GEC  eloquently explains this. As always.

Lord,
Creator of Heaven and Earth,
To you there is no such thing as impossible
To you You can do Anything

Shine your love for us, Father, as granted to us by the death and resurrection of Your Son, Jesus Christ.

As Jesus Told us,
"If you have seen the Son, You have Seen the Father"

Lord,
Strengthen us in this our daily bread.
Lord,
Thank you for all your gifts and graces that you alone know you give to us.

To You, Alone, goes all Glory, Honor and Praise.
Amen.

'te ging. You know, you rock.

You know the song, 'Seek Ye First'?

I like that song.

I love this phrase from the song:

"Seek ye first, the kingdom of GOD
And His Righteousness~
And All these things shall be aded unto you
Alleluu alleluu yaaa

Man shall not live by bread alone
But by EVERY word,
That PROCEEDS from the mouth of GOD
Allelu alleluu yaaa

Ask and it shall be given unto you,
Seek and ye shall find,
Knock and the door shall be opened unto you,
Allelu allelu yaaaa"

Oh man i love this song.
The hairs on my back stand up as I hum it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbAtSP-CFQg&feature=related

Mao bitaw. Its the beauty of the Free Will our Father in Heaven gave us.

Quote from: glacier_71 on March 04, 2009, 01:34:48 AM
with your look and wit, enzo, dating is like going into a supermarket. hehehe.

seriously, it really depends on what level of contentment one has. one can be hopping from one person to another, but still that is defined on what motivation one is taking. one can emulsify into a culture, people or taste in any manner available (for love of adventure, to learn, to have a conversation, etc), but may it not forfeit one's soul.

lol, pre, dili man hard to meet and date foreign women, uy. Foreign girls are very open minded, well for the most part. If you break through the ice, maka continue man ka sa deeper conversation.

Sure ko this true for anyone, any race. Either a woman is American, Canadian, German, Japanese, Italian, Swedish, Dane, Dutch, French, Spanish, Pakistani, Egyptian, Nigerian etc.

I'll tell you one thing tho bud, you learn something new from them. A different input on a new culture, language, life habit or whatever.

Like I said, we might 'think' we want something, but really, after experience, you'll realize that your preference is really different from the perceived 'want' of the past.

Per se an example; in high school I was into Asian girls. and only preferred to date asian girls.

In college, I went to a college that was 96% white protestant. So you had to adapt to the situation. I had my share of dates here and there, relationships etc. And realize that there is really beauty and attraction towards women of different races and different political views, religious views, academic aspirations etc.

My last gf, who I dated for 1 year (and knew since 1st year college) is a Baptist, Religious Studies-Women's Studies double major. Liberal minded. She's now a 1st year Law student in the University of Pittsburgh School of Law. Scottish-Irish ethnic background. She never dated anyone besides white men before she dated me. We had alot of differences; one on religion (we used to have long 'interesting' conversations on that topic alone) hahaha. She's a really independent and strong willed girl, intelligent kaayo. She graduated Magna Caume Laude from Allegheny.

Did we argue?
Of course we had our shares of fights. It's all about compromise and respecting each other's views, man.

Things can work out, thats the point im stressing, it takes both sides to work things out and respect each other.

I reiterate my point:

It is getting worse because even if there is a use of a People's Power Revolution won't solve any problems if the politicians who pledge to a people's power coup--will not change. Continual uprisings only destabilize government.

Use proper channels to vent disinterest, instead of rising in numbers and forming a mob, and declare it the 'People' when in actuality, it is nothing but a mob.

If you want change, vote for change. Take it to the polls. And don't sell your vote.

Those who sell their votes have no right to complain about the destititution. Since you acquiesced to the system of corruption.

Change begins with you. In the words of Mahatma Gandhi, "You are the change you seek in the world."




Lorenzo

haha, you have a beautiful point, Pare.

And I respect your point.

This is one of the hurdles we must get used to, living in a secularized society.

It all comes down to respect. Its rater libertarian, if you think about it in a way.

"You can do what you want, believe in what you want, so long as you don't do it in my property on push your belief on me, unless its a mutual similarity."

Respect.

That idea is intrinsic jud for the maintenance of Harmony in any situation, place, people, society. Respect is Key.

Just like in this Forum. Respect is Key.

Quote from: glacier_71 on March 03, 2009, 09:14:22 PM
you have lived life indeed with those array of women. 

Its like shopping for vegetables man, you can't just have potatoes and onions everyday. Sometimes you gotta try cabbage, squash, bean sprouts, lol.

So you can find out what your favorite/preferred veggie is, right?

How will one know when one has not emulsified himself into the culture,taste,individual? (rhetorical ra ni, ha)

I never knew that, amigo. Now I know.

Quote from: Datu Dagohoy on March 03, 2009, 04:15:00 PM
nahibaw ko bai nga imohang answer ang akong itangan kay mayo kaayo

I am just giving you the medical-scientific explanation, Datu Dagohoy.

Thanks for posting this interesting thread.

Your question, is actually is subject to multiple-deep debates in Medical Psychiatry and on a subset level, Clinical Psychology.

Very deep ni imung question.

Hahahaha, mo katawa nalang ta, Tita. Kai at least that way may happy atong dughan. Diba?

Take care of yourself, Tita.

How is your family?

Quote from: Bad Godesberg on February 28, 2009, 03:13:33 AM
CLEANSE YOUR HOME NOW!



"Lord Jesus Christ, Who said to Your apostles, 'In whatever home you enter, greet it, saying, 'Peace be in this home,' let this same peace, we pray, abide in this place. We beseech You to sanctify it by the merits of our trusting prayer!

"Pour Your blessings on it, and make it a place of peace. May salvation enter our abode as it entered the house of Zacchaeus, when You graced it with Your presence.

"Entrust Your angels to guard it and banish from it every evil power.

"Grant that all who live in it may please You with their good works, and so receive from You, when their time comes, the reward of Your heavenly home.
      We ask this through Christ, Our Lord, Amen."

+JLY

July,

How very powerful.

well, if it helps, I must say that the shape of your plansa on the carpet is very beautiful, Tita!

I say its artistic!

Yup.

Each epoch should be studied and admired according to its own facets. Including limitations, successes.

Because in the end, looking at it macroscopically, that is what history is all about.

The study of the progress of Human Civilization through span of the years.

Each failure, each success, wars, debates, assinations, elections, revolutions, etc. is what makes and defines the multifactorial nature of Human Kind.

And our beautiful history. That is what makes it worthy to be studied.

o no! Tita, is there any way you can get rid of that mark?

You know, when I was a kid--when we still lived in an apartment in NYC (some 15 years ago) hahaha, I did that too.

I got in so much trouble, too.

Amen, Amen, Amen.

Blessed Be His Holy Name.

Blessed be Jesus Christ, Our Lord and Saviour.