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Quote from: hubag bohol on May 09, 2011, 10:06:49 AM
He he, kang kinsa man kuno ning iroa bi?

lain na man pod ning deserving of a caption nga hayopa or what-kind-of-an-animal-is-this nga analysis.  huwata lang nga ma-medical student ko aron di ko maglisod ani... 

Quote from: hubag bohol on May 09, 2011, 10:04:44 AM
Oops, watch your bark!

na hala, botoy na lang imbis hubag; arf-arf na lang imbis bow-wow-wow...

Quote from: islander on May 09, 2011, 09:56:54 AM
oh, no... di ba kaha ni possessed piktyora mao nga di mopakita ug pari?  

hala, nawagtang pod sa akong screen.  di na ko anang piktyora uy, arang kasenyalan.  papresyo pod morag siya ray pareha sa iyang doggie.  naay daghan a...

Quote from: chicogon on May 09, 2011, 09:52:17 AM


Mao ni kang Bay Bugs

ahahaha!  nag-wig na man diay si migo bugs...

Quote from: chicogon on May 09, 2011, 09:46:36 AM
Tagulilong gehapon man 

oh, no... di ba kaha ni possessed piktyora mao nga di mopakita ug pari? 

Quote from: bugsay on May 09, 2011, 09:45:19 AM
asa man ang tag-iya ani?..

di diay ikaw?  

Quote from: hubag bohol on May 09, 2011, 09:35:55 AM
Di bitaw makita...

di gihapon?  makita na man god nako.  sayang kay pareha ra ba siyag hitsura sa usa ninyo; waffo kaayo.  suwayan nakog repeat kuno...

Quote from: islander on May 09, 2011, 09:36:55 AM
kun mapareha ang iro ug ang tag-iya, mag-unsa na lang ko kun ing-ani akong iro...

hinoon, i'll take him for what he is, facial folds and all.  nganlan pod nako siyag hubag...

kun mapareha ang iro ug ang tag-iya, mag-unsa na lang ko kun ing-ani akong iro...

Research backs claim: dogs and owners look alike

by Lianne Wilkinson on April 3, 2009

Who hasn’t heard the saying that dogs and their owners look alike?  Whether you believe it or not, researchers from Bath Spa University claim that it is possible to match dogs with their owners just by looking at a photograph.

Researchers Dr Lance Workman Head of Psychology in Bath Spa University’s School of Social Sciences, and Chris Hunter asked a group of 70 non-dog owners to match photos of 41 dog owners to one of three possible dog breeds and the results reportedly show that the group made a level of matches significantly high enough to be above that which could be achieved through chance alone.

Dr Lance Workman stated:

“This suggests that certain breeds of dogs are associated with particular kinds of people.  The non-dog owners used stereotypes to match the dogs to their owners. These stereotypes persisted into judgments of the dog owners’ personalities: non-dog owners considered the owners of each breed to share certain personality traits, such as level of conscientiousness and emotional stability.

“But when we tested the dog owners’ personalities we found no strong links between any particular personality trait and choice of dog breed.  So any shared qualities are only skin deep.”

Whether I believe it or not, I’m happy to say that my own dog is absolutely gorgeous so if it is true that we look alike, then I wouldn’t be too disappointed!

Quote from: chicogon on May 09, 2011, 09:26:55 AM
Di ko kakita aning picture sa ibabaw, ni tagulilong ang katabang sa mga miming kay naulaw 

bati kaayo kog connection ron.  ambot ba ani... ka-kj ba uroy, bow-wow-wow!

Quote from: bugsay on May 09, 2011, 09:20:30 AM
mao ni ang tag-iya sa mga Miming?....

aherm, mao ni ang katabang sa tag-iya sa mga miming.

abi ninyog baye ra?  hahaha...

diay mas klaro, way pasakalye...

an inspiring story.  ma-misty-eyed man sad ta ani.  i can't help but think that it's so christian to believe that every person is redeemable.

Quote from: hubag bohol on May 09, 2011, 06:41:04 AM
I can't wait for the cat name TB member family name combination. Samples please, Ms. Isle!

huwat-huwat lang usa ha?  like good wine, this takes time.  i-match pa nako ang sound sa apelyido sa sound sa ngalan sa akong iring.  i-match pa gyod ang character sa iring as i perceive the character of the tb member to be.  and i need pictures (of my cats) for my efforts.  once i'm done with all this, i'd open a new thread with a title like 'orphans no more: the baptism of islander's cats' or something.  too bad i don't know the family names of everyone here, which means that i'll be forced to invent.

Quote from: hofelina on May 09, 2011, 04:25:48 AM
pastilan si Padre, natakdan ni hubag bohol!

Quote from: vrglguapo on May 09, 2011, 04:36:55 AM
Takdan jud ka ug hubag hubag ana dre..

o kaha napukaw ang natural...

di ko ganahan kay inig-flush asa man ko padung? 

Cats Against Palin

from Paul Krugman’s Blog
The New York Times, September 10, 2008, 9:45 am

duda ko nga ang tag-iya ani si gwyneth paltrow da...

Spray Painting the Pooch

On May 3, 2007, police were called to a home by a concerned pet owner whose Samoan shepherd, Wiley, had been tagged with what the owner described in the police report as "gang graffiti."  In fact, "Go Home" had been spray painted in red on the dog (pictured).  It turned out, however, that Wiley liked to roam the neighborhood unleashed and had most likely been spray painted by an irate neighbor. The deputy advised the owner to keep Wiley in her own yard and leashed when she walked him around to avoid similar acts of vandalism in the future.


http://i.cdn.turner.com/trutv/trutv.com/

ang style nako, chris, kay akong ipa-neuter and among cats aron di modaghan.  di lalim apson ang ilang pag-multiply unya modaghan na hinoon ang mag-antos nila.  di ko motuo ug rh bill nato para sa tawo, para sa iring ug iro ra na angay. 

Quote from: chriswise on May 09, 2011, 01:29:35 AM
daghan among cat 6 kabook,,poro yellow color,,

congratulations!  swerte kuno ning balay nga naay iring... ambot ba uroy.  basta ako, i love cats and other animals just for being what they are.  i hope you do, too.   

Animal Abuse Potential

Is there any evidence of a connection between animal cruelty and human violence?

Absolutely.  Many studies in psychology, sociology, and criminology during the last 35+ years have demonstrated that violent offenders frequently have childhood and adolescent histories of serious and repeated animal cruelty.  The FBI has recognized the connection since the 1970s, when bureau analysis of the life histories of imprisoned serial killers suggested that most, as children, had killed or tortured animals.  Other research has shown consistent patterns of animal cruelty among perpetrators of more common forms of violence, including child abuse, spouse abuse, and elder abuse.

Is Animal Abuse Recognized as a Sign of Mental Disorder?

Yes.  In the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM), the American Psychiatric Association lists animal cruelty as one of the behaviors signaling conduct disorder.  Clinical evidence indicates that animal cruelty is one of the symptoms usually seen at the earliest stages of conduct disorder, often by the age of eight.  This information has only recently been included in the DSM, so some psychologists, psychiatrists, and social workers are just now becoming aware of it.

Why Is It Improtant to Stop Animal Abusers When They are Young?

A 1994 report release by the National Research Council states that early intervention is more likely to reduce adult crime than criminal sanctions applied later in life.  The report further states that childhood behavior is more important than teenage behavior in predicting future violence.


http://www.sniksnak.com/ac/abuse.html

One of the most dangerous things that can happen to a child is to kill or torture an animal and get away with it. 

                                                                                                                -Margaret Mead, Anthropologist

Quote from: ms da binsi on May 05, 2011, 12:17:17 AM
Ako gi bookmark ni kay di nako mahuman ug basa. Thanks for all these Miss Isles! (Vow....)

my pleasure... 

when you hurt cats it takes them time to forget it. 

Quote from: hubag bohol on May 07, 2011, 02:51:41 PM
Cruelty to cat...

maayo gani kay statue ra ni.  kun tinuod pa, daghan na untag kinamrasan ang bata.  way sala ang iring.  sala sa ginikanan nga wa matudloi ang bata...

note to parents:  tell your children not to touch much less hurt your cats when their ears are pointed backward.  it means that they are on "crazies".  this happens about three times a day, when something in cats harks back to the beginning of time, with their hunting instincts.  they're not sweet and affectionate during these times. 

the bearded nobel prize winner economist paul krugman loves cats.




paul krugman and his wife holding their cats albert einstein and doris lessing



paul krugman holding his cat, albert einstein



albert einstein holding paul krugman


OT:  (AHA!  now i'm inspired to get surnames of tb members for my cats!)

ka-cute sa iring!

kini kaha?  may puruhan kaha ni nga taga-louisiana? 

ug kinsa pod kaha ni siya nga tb member?

serious kaayo siya.  what a great cat.  opposite ni siya sa among mga iring.  manangtang man hinoon ang amo ug mga tinahi, apil pa ang mga barong ni banana republic.

mga laki nga drivers ra aniy madisgrasya.  wa miy labot.

Quote from: hubag bohol on May 08, 2011, 05:51:59 PM
Tsk, tsk, tsk. Cruelty to animals man ning gibuhat ni Ms. Isle...

naa tawoy sweldo ni si guardia uy (named after la guardia airport).  gawas pa, akoy iyang sugoon ug palit ug gasolina kay di siya ganahan nga siya ang mopalit kay iring ang gasoline boy...

Quote from: chicogon on May 08, 2011, 01:51:36 PM
Si Ms. Isle tuas likod maoy tig paghot 

meow, meow, meow!  

Paul the Psychic Octopus Gets His Very Own Movie

By: Jenny Wilson


An upcoming biopic will tell the story of the clairvoyant cephalopod that gained instant celebrity status by calling outcomes of World Cup soccer matches last summer.  Paul, the now-deceased octopus from a Sea Life Centre in Germany, accurately picked the winner of all seven games his country of residence played and predicted Spain as the overall victor of the 2010 World Cup.  He did so by choosing between one of two boxes of food, each marked with a team's flag.  Fans went wild as tales of Paul's skill went viral.

It was, quite literally, a made-for-the-movies phenomenon.  The upcoming documentary's website says the film will explore "celebrity mania at its most outrageous, the science of probabilities and the possibility of higher powers."  The flick's Facebook page indicates it will be released this fall.


Disclaimer: NewsFeed assumes no responsibility if you have the Paul the Octopus song stuck in your head after reading this post.


Read more: http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/05/06/watch-paul-the-psychic-octopus-gets-his-very-own-movie/#ixzz1Lj5i4r3R

puwes, aron mawingig kag samot...

katkat anang pader (see sample picture, reply #1; kay taas man, di tua sa langit), kuhaa nang usa sa mga gitarok nga buak nga baso, maoy gamita pagyarok ug imnonon.  wingig?

Quote from: Hans de Ruijter on May 08, 2011, 03:56:07 AM
Maayo diay na kay daghan ug ambongan ug mga waffa  diri.... pero klarohon nato ni ug unsa man ning mga ambongan ug mga waffa diri --- sa wa pay uso ang TAWO? or uso na ang mga TAWO?    nindot ang klaro di ba?   :-)

makapasalig ko nga ang akong ka-waffa pagkahuman na nauso ang tawo.  nowadays, being an alien is in.

Quote from: Hans de Ruijter on May 07, 2011, 01:44:27 PM
@Chicogon - sakto ka ingon siya  "when I retire" - mao na iyang sulti ana man ta tanan padulong wa man ta magkabata, aw depende pod na usahay kay dunay nagkatigulang ang edad nagkaway boot man pod... :-)

i swear nga layo pa mi dinhi sa second childhood.  kun nagkaway buot man, tungod ra na tingali kay we have stopped taking ourselves seriously aron malayo ta sa ulcer ug migraine.

mao niy dugang nga mga apan man god if we take ourselves seriously:

1.  di modako ang atong kuwarta sa bangko, kana kun naay kuwarta sa bangko
2.  akong nawong mao ra gihapon
3.  ang nawong sa akong bana mao ra gihapon (maayo gani kay guwapo)
4.  ang ngalan sa atong mga bana mao ra gihapon
5.  we get insecure and lose our sense of humor

the upside, of course, is that we gain more equanimity as we age.  i wouldn't exchange what i am now for the insecurity of my youth.

see you in bohol!  when you retire.

the dutch are one of the more liberal people on earth, and this needs no telling.  so please don't blame me if the least of my expectations is that your husband is a regular dutch guy, full of joie de vivre with an acute sense of humor.  and since you're a boholana, you may not be that much different then, for aren't we boholanos known for our own joie de vivre and sense of humor?

as for the netherlands, well, where else in the world can one find these statues?  (and this is aside from the the anne frank museum and van gogh museum.)  some fine dutch sense of humor here!


Hand on Breast Statue
(wikimedia)


Bronze statue "Belle" in front of the Oude Kerk by Els Rijerse.  Inscription says "Respect sex workers all over the world."
(wikimedia)
   

what i noticed then was that my friend's husband was such a talker and joker, with statements like  "i'm the only one who's not blond in our family.  my mother said that it's because i was given to her by the milkman," and some other similar self-deprecating jokes.

he also revealed that the dutch make jokes of the belgians, not unlike how tagalogs look at bisayas or, for that matter, how cebuanos look at boholanos.  (how universal then is this human tendency!)   

admittedly, i'm not much of an authority, but i believed it when someone told me back in the late 1990s that among all europeans, the dutch are known for their great sense of humor.  and that's aside from being deemed as the tallest human beings on the average.

i have a college chum who's married to a dutch.  they've settled in amsterdam and i was lucky to visit with her more than once.  my sorties in the netherlands were enjoyable many times over because, and here i hope to be forgiven---those dutch we encountered along the way were a lot friendlier than those locals in venice!  once, my husband posed beside a statue (below), following its pose and facial expression because, by jove, he (my husband) also wore an almost similar hat.  those dutch at a nearby outdoor cafe clapped and cheered him on!




no, i didn't pose myself.  at that time, i strangely lost my own boholano sense of humor by not wanting those dutch guys to laugh and cheer me on as they did to my husband.  i don't know why, but i regret it now.

Quote from: Hans de Ruijter on May 07, 2011, 05:56:13 AM
Una sa tanan si Hans di na kamao mobinisaya kay tungod lagi KUNOHAY  sa atong impression para niya nga kitang mga bol-anon HOSPITABLE kuno,kamao mo-respeto sa ubang tawo KUNO miapil-apil siya diri without expecting nga mahimo ra siyang COMEDY tungod sa iyang name...

Lahi ang komedya ug bugalbugal, dili siya kasakay sa komedya or bugalbugal kay gibinisaya man pagsulat. Salamat....

it's nice to know then that there's no harm done.  something must have been lost in translation.  but i hold hopes.  what may have been lost in translation could be found again in the retelling, especially when the translator is a sport.   by the way, this is exciting.  a boholano sense of humor paired with a dutch one sounds like an ideal parallel universe.   

Quote from: Hans de Ruijter on May 07, 2011, 05:45:25 AM
@ Islander
@ Hosefina
@ Chicogon
@ Bambi

Thanks for the warm welcome...

you're most welcome, hans.

When God Created Mothers

by Erma Bombeck


When the Good Lord was creating mothers, He was into his sixth day of “overtime” when an angel appeared and said, “You’re doing a lot of fiddling around on this one.”

And the Lord said, “Have you read the specs on this order?

    She has to be completely washable, but not plastic;
    Have 180 movable parts... all replaceable;
    Run on black coffee and leftovers;
    Have a lap that disappears when she stands up;
    A kiss that can cure anything from a broken leg to a disappointed love affair;
    And six pairs of hands.”

The angel shook her head slowly and said, “Six pairs of hands... no way.”

“It’s not the hands that are causing me problems,” said the Lord.  “It’s the three pairs of eyes that mothers have to have.”

“That’s on the standard model?” asked the angel.

The Lord nodded.  “One pair that sees through closed doors when she asks, ’What are you kids doing in there?’ when she already knows.  Another here in the back of her head that sees what she shouldn’t but what she has to know, and of course the ones here in front that can look at a child when he goofs up and say, 'I understand and I love you' without so much as uttering a word.”

“Lord,” said the angel, touching His sleeve gently, “Go to bed. Tomorrow...”

“I can’t,” said the Lord, “I’m so close to creating something so close to myself.  Already I have one who heals herself when she is sick... can feed a family of six on one pound of hamburger... and can get a nine-year-old to stand under a shower.”

The angel circled the model of a mother very slowly.  “It’s too soft,” she sighed.

“But she’s tough!” said the Lord excitedly. “You cannot imagine what this mother can do or endure.”

“Can it think?”

“Not only can it think, but it can reason and compromise,” said the Creator.

Finally, the angel bent over and ran her finger across the cheek.  “There’s a leak,” she pronounced.  “I told You You were trying to push too much into this model.”

“It’s not a leak,” said the Lord.  “It’s a tear.”

“What’s it for?”

“It’s for joy, sadness, disappointment, pain, loneliness, and pride.”

“You are a genius,” said the angel.

The Lord looked somber.  “I didn’t put it there,” He said.


http://holyjoe.org/

mas deadly ang green bakibaki.

uy, wa na man mogimaw si hubs.  nag-bodybuilding pa tingali to.

mas ngilngig gyod ang baso nga tua sa langit, kab-utonon pa.  di lang kay di ma-slide, wingig pa gyod ka inig inom... 

that animal is better known as "carabao de tubag bohol".

scientific name: Bubalus bubalis tubagus boholanis elephantiasis

tungaw kun mamaak molikay man tingali sa itlog kay mas type nila ang bugan.

baye tuod nag-drive aning hinuwaman nga awto, ang nakaporke kay laki ang nag-drive nga naka-bump.  so never lend your car to a woman or a man.  it's best to lend it to a dog.

Quote from: Way Nada on May 06, 2011, 04:41:00 PM
I'm not insisting on my logic. It's you who is persistent. I am siding with Enrile, Maceda, Gen. Douglas MacArthur, Gen, Jonathan Wainwright, the US and the Philippine governments that the Marcos medals are genuine. That is simple logic.***

WN

i'm persistent and you are not? 

discussions such as what we have in this forum encourage us to learn more, through shared opinions and proper research and cross-references, with a certain detachment from one's emotional leanings and personal loyalties, so we can make informed conclusions.  had you not mentioned that i or anyone who has an opposing view to yours should go to that afp museum consultant with the evidence that the medals are fake (what a non-sequitur!) or had you not insisted that there was no election cheating, i might have held on to some hope that there's some shred of intellect left in you. 

there you are insisting on your simple logic.  too simple, in fact, that you've just convinced me that your horizon extends only up to the tip of your nose.  any discussion with you wasn't worth a minute of my time after all.  henceforth, i'd rather discuss heroism with a cadaver, whether it's waiting for a hero's burial or not.  honest. 

simbako intawon ug sunod sa hero's burial sa libingan ng mga bayani ang rome na pod ang target, para beatification and canonization, kay buotan ug maayohon ra ba gyod kaayo kuno tong presidenteha, wa gyod mangawat ug manikas sa eleksyon kay siya man gyod intawon ang gusto sa mga pilipino.

naa.  motoo sad ko nga ang tanang ahensya nagsilbi.  di gyod hinoon de luxe service pero ato na lang sabton kay di man pod 5-star hotel ang mga opisina ani.  malalim kag di na magsilbi ang b.i.r., na, wa na gyoy makolekta nga buhis.

some agencies are better than others.  in my experience, the worst offices to have anything to do with are the dep/ed regional office in cebu, the regional trial courts in cebu, and the land transportation office in tagbilaran.  ayaw na lang ko paadtoa sa city hall sa cebu kay makondenar gyod ko.

psy-war.  mas ganahan unta ko kun sa pagsulti niya ani iyang body language hula-hula dance.

uyon ko sa relihiyon nga islam sa mga muslim.  it is a religion of peace.  di gyod hinoon nako ibaylo ang akong pagka-katoliko, as a matter of faith and tradition because catholicism is the religion of my ancestors. 

that is why i take special care in giving due respect to all other religions, except one.

wa ba kaha tawon ning iringa matakboyi ug feline pneumonia pagkahuman; kitten pa ra ba intawon...

this is mortifying.  i'm truly sorry, hans. 

ours obviously is perhaps just a different kind of humor.  i believe we turn to that to make a person feel at home.  when we welcomed you, we meant it because we know it would be truly nice to have you here. 

will you, at least, give us a chance to get to know you in our mutual sharing of ideas and opinions on things and events as well as our laughter and cares? 

Quote from: Way Nada on May 06, 2011, 02:15:35 PM
Reply:

"Naturally politics is playing as usual." That is your quote not mine. But Marcos is not playing politics... he is a dead man. His enemies are playing politics with a dead body. A sort of desecration of the dead.
***
Reply:

If you have unimpeachable evidence then you must go to the proper venue and complain that Marcos medals are fake. Anyway Gen. Restituto Aguilar I believe will entertain your evidence thus saying; "Those who contest the authenticity of his [Marcos] medals should substantiate their allegations. It shall undergo investigations and should follow a process”. So that once and for all the Marcos medals' issue will come to a stop.

WN

***

way nada, if your logic turns this way, then i am just wasting my time on this discussion.  but let me try to follow your logic anyway, no matter how different it is from mine and no matter how i insult myself in the process.  

if you must tell me to go to the proper venue to complain that marcos's medals are fake, then i must also tell you to go and bury marcos yourself and give him the proper hero's burial.  better still, jump into the grave and have yourself be buried with him.

Quote from: Way Nada on May 06, 2011, 01:48:33 PM
So if you are agreeable... therefore the issue against the Marcos medals is politically motivated. It is true that denigrating and mudslinging are often used by vested interest group to take issue to further a political end. By asserting an idea under the protection of freedom of the press can you smear, defame or sully the reputation of a person? This is often predicated on lies and falsehood and I think this is wrong especially if the person concerned is a dead man.

Marcos since he first ran for election in 1948 he capitalized on his medals to attract voters to vote for him. He campaigned in the 1965 presidential election comparing him a war hero to the Liberal Party candidate Sergio Osmena Jr. who was selling scrap iron to the Japanese army during the war.

There was never an issue that his medals are fake until in 1982 a certain Bonifacio Gillego came out with his allegation that the Marcos medals are not genuine who relies his information from people supposedly Marcos comrades in arms during WW-II. Therefore it's a sort of info coming from gossip and political innuendoes... which is why they are really false. And more... not a single information from him that says; he sourced it from the archives of the US and Philippine military.

WN
***   

just because we are agreed on political motivations does not mean that we are agreed about the medals.  besides, his claims to these medals can also be branded as politically motivated, okay?  he capitalized on these to election victory, as you imply.

gillego sourced his information from marcos's superiors at the 14th infantry (please see reply #136).  his report was lent credence by the findings of historian alfred w. mccoy.  here i post again what i've previously posted:   

Marcos’s war hero image collapsed when The New York Times ran an exclusive on January 23, 1986.  He was then wrapping up the election campaign against Cory, widow of Ninoy Aquino. As usual he regaled the crowds with accounts of his hot exploits.  The Times doused cold water on his stories, quoting the US Army description of them as mostly “absurd” and “fraudulent”.  Main source was Alfred W. McCoy, a history professor who was researching records just turned over to the National Archives in Washington. McCoy unearthed two requests by Marcos in 1945 and 1948 for official recognition of Mga Maharlika.  Both were rejected as Army investigators found the claims to be exaggerated.  Ray Hunt Jr., an ex-Army captain who directed guerrilla activities in 1942-44 in Pangasinan, North Luzon, was quoted in the Times article as saying the Maharlika was fictitious.  He said if any unit had operated near his base then, he would have known about it.  The investigators said Marcos even associated with men engaged in “nefarious activity,” like supplying contraband to the Japanese.

The opposition press picked up the Times story. It confirmed what retired Philippine Army Col. Bonifacio Gillego had stated only months before in The Fake Medals of Marcos.  The underground book branded the 27 decorations as outright phonies or awarded through bogus accounts.  Also exposed then was Marcos’s rejected application for war reparation of $595,000. Supposedly it was for the US Army’s commandeering of 2,000 heads of cattle from his (inexistent) family ranch in Mindanao.

Marcos ordered political lieutenants to refute the reports. They came up with a more incredible claim that the medals were for acts in 1941 and 1945, at war’s beginning and end. This only lent more credence to Gillego’s statement that, for Marcos to have fought the 27 battles, he would have been at different places at the same time.


From GOTCHA By Jarius Bondoc (The Philippine Star) Updated April 08, 2011 12:00 AM


http://www.philstar.com

Quote from: bol-anon quo nyur! on May 06, 2011, 01:16:03 PM
I was in DAVAO CITY during the SNAP ELECTION, & what i saw & experienced during those times is the TOTAL OPPOSITE sa gi ingon ni WAY NADA....what a JOKE!

maayo ka kay morag kalma-kalma ang davao ikomparar sa cebu atong panahona.  i was in the midst of the election as a young government worker.  purya, nasuko nako akong officemates kay wa ko mo-attend sa campaign ni marcos ug imelda sa cebu coliseum (pakaw-on mi ug magdala ug pompoms; nagpasumangil kog hilanat.  i felt then that i was too old to be a pompom-carrying cheerleader; professional na god kintahay ko. )

worse, the whole office became a "secret tabulation center", with paid mediamen who came and went and were ready to report marcos with leading results.  (one of them was a boholano nga kanunay nako ikasingkahay kay luod kaayo ang iyang pagka-trying hard.  he became the office's laughingstock kay we knew he was there for the money.  supplier ra baya to siya ug mga girls sa mga visiting dignitaries.  naahat ug ka mediaman ang tonto.) 

the trick of the "secret tabulation center":  do not report the results of the opposition; set the mind of the people for marcos's victory.  my boss knew i would refuse; wa na ko pasudla sa office.  bata pa lagi ta, kamao pa mosukol, hehe.  pasumangil na lang akong boss ug assign nako sa voting centers.  nagnganga intawon ko sa may southern islands hospital gym, one of the voting centers.  hinoon, sige lang kog kaon ug potato chips didto.

when edsa happened, gitaktak ko sa akong trabaho.

note:  martial law had my brother detained at the stockade for nine months.  my sister was listed as "questionable".  a close relative was a concon delegate who got a mercedes benz from marcos.  need i say more?       

Quote from: Way Nada on May 05, 2011, 02:12:18 PM
islander wrote:

"heroes are deemed worthy of the name, so why should the article's writer still ask if he were worthy of the name when he can settle for simply asking whether he was a hero or not?"

Reply:

You are right! "Heroes are deemed worthy of the name." Other people think he is not worth the name of a hero. But honorable men like Gen. Jonathan Wainwright and Gen. Douglas MacArthur think otherwise. They believed Marcos is a hero by honoring him [Marcos] with war medals. These war medals were awarded to Marcos at the time when the war in the Philippines was raging in 1942. The US and Philippine governments never reported that those medals awarded to Marcos were fake medals. 

I for one agree with the 2 generals.

WN

i, too, believe in the two generals.  but remember marcos's awards didn't all come from these two generals.  he purportedly displayed 27 (some say it's 33).  that's why it's worth my time to ponder on this:

OTHER OBSERVATIONS:

• Marcos earned the Medal of Valor “for extraordinary gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of life above and beyond the call of duty in a suicidal action against overwhelming enemy forces at the junction of Salian River and Abo-Abo River, Bataan, on or about 22 January 1942.”  This highest Philippine military award came only in October 1958, when he was senior congressman, 16 years after.

• Only two of the medals were given during the War.  The Gold Cross came on July 22, 1945, “for gallantry in action at Kiangan, Mt. Province, in April 1945.”  Supposedly “Colonel Marcos, of the 14th Infantry, United States Armed Forces in the Philippines-North Luzon (USAFIP-NL), with one enlisted man volunteered to reconnoiter area adjacent to the regimental command post at Panupdupan.”  Marcos spotted well-camouflaged enemy trucks about a mile away and sent the enlisted man back to RCP to report. By himself Marcos ambushed the Japanese, forcing them to flee after 30 minutes of intense fighting.

• The Distinguished Service Star came on April 24, 1945.  The citation read: “For outstanding achievement as a guerrilla leader.   After escaping from the Fort Santiago Kempei Tai, Marcos supported ex-Mayor Vicente Umali, organizer and commanding general of the PQOG…  Despite his illness, he stayed at the headquarters in Banahaw to guide both the staff and combat echelons.  He refused the rank of ‘general’ offered him by General Umali and organized his own guerrilla group known as the Maharlika.”

Interviewed by Gillego in 1982, Marcos’s two superiors in the 14th Infantry debunked both citations.  Col. Romulo A. Manriquez, regimental commander, swore that Marcos was never assigned to patrol or combat, only as S-5 or civil affairs.  Not a colonel but a captain, Marcos joined the 14th Infantry from December 4, 1944 to April 28, 1945.  No Maharlika guerrilla group was formed in Kiangan on April 24, 1945.

Capt. Vicente L. Rivera, 14th Infantry adjutant, added that he had never recommended Marcos for any decoration.  The sighting of Japanese trucks a mile from RCP was geographically impossible because the nearest road was too far, half a day’s hike away.


From GOTCHA, Jarius Bondoc, The Philippine Star
Thursday, April 28th, 2011 / 08:40 PM


http://www.philstar.com/

Quote from: Way Nada on May 05, 2011, 01:25:19 PM
islander wrote: 

the bogeyman of communism was his most convenient reason then, from the plaza miranda bombing (as yet unsolved) to the supposed ambush of enrile (solved, with enrile admitting that it was plain drama).  even the assassination of benign aquino jr was at once blamed on the communists.

Reply:

Bogeyman? hehehe... I think this is the usual terminology of the Marcos critics to discredit Martial Law.

hehe, as the usual terminology of marcos worshippers is ‘hero’.

Quote
And one thing I can say about Enrile is that; when his life was already in danger during his defiance against Marcos and to attract sympathy from the people he invented a story that his "ambush" was staged by Marcos. His story is unbelievable because it was done at the time when he rebelled against his boss Marcos. If it is for the sake of the people... he should have divulged it long time ago.

so?  just because he didn’t divulge it at once his statement is rendered false?  a late confession does not make a confession false.  oh, it wasn’t marcos who staged the ambush.  like any lackey obeying his boss, enrile himself arranged it upon marcos’s orders.

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islander wrote: 

"was the communists’ npa ever a threat to national security in the real sense of the word? on hindsight, but for the usual government yarn then, the more threatening at the time was our own military that had more political power and better weapons than the ragtag npa, which didn’t have the support of the greater part of the population.  but the communists provided the marcos government with the best excuse to wield power sans check and balance."

Reply:

Yes. The CPP-NPA currently poses the greatest armed threat to the Philippine government and has the widest grass-roots support among the various Philippine leftist insurgent groups. The conflict between the CPP-NPA and the Philippine government has taken thousands of lives since the NPA’s inception. The peace talks between the NDF and the government is going nowhere.

WN

wow!  this party and ideology, marcos’s bogeymen, had been sidelined since the fall of the berlin wall, and you still believe they’re a threat?  come on, do you really believe until now, more than two decades later, the propaganda of the marcos years, with the controlled media as the conveyors?  what decade are you living in?

Quote from: Way Nada on May 05, 2011, 05:16:34 PM
islander wrote:   

"your belief that marcos deserved all his 27 war medals must have some basis, such as your readings and your choice of what to believe in your readings.  that’s your right."

Reply:

Of course! It's not only a belief but it's a fact of history that Marcos was awarded these medals during WW-II.

islander wrote:

"this is mine:  what are the bases for the doubts cast over marcos’s medals?  in general, some of the medals were earned or bestowed on him in accordance with his own reports and claims.  thus, the medals may be authentic but the reasons for their awarding could be fake.  (please note the qualifications of “may be” and “could be”.)"

Reply:

Actually the doubts come from baseless accusation. Devoid of any iota of evidence. The bases for the doubters comes from; "naturally, it was politics as usual." This is straight from the horse's mouth.

WN

horse aside, and talking of an iota (which the dictionary says is "a very small quantity or degree; a jot; a particle"), i hereby offer the following iotas:


Posing as the most decorated Filipino soldier of World War II, Ferdinand Marcos foisted 33 medals and awards.  Bonifacio Gillego, in opposing Marcos’s dictatorship, exposed in 1982:

• Eleven of the 33 were given in 1963, nearly 20 years after the War, when Marcos was Senate President girding to run for President.  Ten of the 11 were given on the same day, December 20. Three of the ten unusually were given under only one General Order.

• One award was given on Marcos’s 55th birthday, September 17, 1972, when he was President, four days before he imposed martial law.

• Eight of the 33 “American and Philippine medals,” as listed by Marcos’s Office of Media Affairs, were actually campaign ribbons given to all participants in the defense of Bataan and in the resistance.

• Awards are duplicated for the same action on the same day and place.

• One is a special award from the Veterans Federation of the Philippines.


From Marcos medals: Only 2 of 33 given in battle, By Jarius Bondoc,
The Philippine Star, Thursday, April 28th, 2011 / 08:40 PM

http://www.philstar.com/

Quote from: Way Nada on May 05, 2011, 05:16:34 PM
"Naturally politics is playing as usual."       

so did marcos played politics as usual.  in fact, he played way, way before…

Quote
islander wrote:

"meantime, when something is questioned, there must be some weakness in that thing."

Reply:

Not necessarily. The things that is questioned by the media are the Marcos medals... and some people just swallow it hook, line and sinker. This not strange because there are lots of gullible people around. To show strenght of their claims they should show proof. According to the Philippine government through Gen. Restituto Aguilar; "Those who contest the authenticity of his [Marcos] medals should substantiate their allegations. It shall undergo investigations and should follow a process”. Until now nobody shows up to contest the Marcos medals. 

it follows, actually.  why cast aspersion on something that's unimpeachable?  let's note in the meantime that there are equally gullible people around who swallow hook, line, sinker and whale marcos’s purported 27 medals of heroism. 

Quote
islander wrote:   

"your belief that marcos deserved all his 27 war medals must have some basis, such as your readings and your choice of what to believe in your readings.  that’s your right."

Reply:

Of course! It's not only a belief but it's a fact of history that Marcos was awarded these medals during WW-II.

i like your selective understanding of history.

jumping with joy here, dr. prof. lucino, manoy lorenz!  good luck!

Quote from: Way Nada on May 05, 2011, 03:01:41 PM
islander wrote:

"isn't it that the pff only reported what was going on?  naturally, it was politics as usual.  it’s not as if we don’t know that political campaigns in our political culture will not always bear the mark of mutual mudslinging.  it wasn’t as if marcos and his minions didn’t undertake their own negative tirades against their political enemies.  remember the “walang alam” slogan against cory aquino?  there was, and there will always be, mutual denigration."

Reply:

Thanks for your opinion. After all the exchanges of views you admitted that; "naturally, it was politics as usual." I agree! Hehehe...

It's not only the smears and mudslinging but the hate against Marcos and I will also include Erap lingers on... because this is drawn in our political culture of putting down a political adversary. The denigration as you say is very clear and the case of Cory Aquino dubbed as "walang alam" is like the issue attributed to Erap as only an actor. Cory Aquino is no push over when it comes to her education but the "walang alam" is a derision of her in-experience in politics.

WN

you're most welcome.  we are, at least, agreed on the mudslinging of politics, that's why you have no need to complain about the opposition denigrating marcos, right?

Quote from: Lorenzo on May 06, 2011, 08:10:29 AM
Way Nada, I would like to share a quote from from Shakespeare with you, "The evil that men do lives after them; the good is oft interred with their bones."

Tho it may be argued and discussed that Marcos was corrupt etc etc, in the end, the man authored over 90 Republic Acts, all of which are still in effect to this day.

I would like to share a rhetorical question to the rest in here: If he was so bad and if his presence in the Philippines was negative, then why didn't the presidential administrations after Marcos repudiate the some 92 Republic Acts that Marcos authored?

my dear manoy lorenz, no one's saying here that his presidency was all negative.  besides, we're tackling here his burial as a hero, not his presidency or the republic acts he "wrote" or the performance of the other presidents after him.

Quote from: Lorenzo on May 06, 2011, 08:21:55 AM
The Malaysians (with the help of the British Forces and Australian Forces) was able to defeat the Indonesian-Malaysian Konfrontasi. The result of which led to Sukarno's loss of legitimacy and an administration change in Indonesia.

I would deign to add that Marcos, who was a law bar top-knotcher, was not as stupid as Sukarno in engaging the Malaysians (with their Commonwealth clout). Tho the state of Malaysia is a British invention and despite North Borneo's historical relations with the Philippines, Marcos knew there really was nothing he could do after Malaysia proved itself that it could defend her right to national sovereignty.

and that's why those trainees had to be silenced forever?

Quote from: Way Nada on May 05, 2011, 01:25:19 PM
islander wrote:   

"first with the suspension of the writ of habeas corpus, then by martial law, and later by instituting constitutional change (through a rubber stamp constitutional convention) to continue to hold the reins of power."

Reply:

The writ of habeas corpus was suspended because Marcos knew about the Plaza Miranda bombing through intelligence reports that it was a prelude of things worse to come. The landing of arms shipment from China aboard M/V Karagatan off the coast of Degoyo Pt. in Luzon was one factor in the declaration of Martial Law. Here is an excerpt of a book narated by a crew member of M/V Karagatan named Ka Terry reported by Jo Clemente of the Inquirer;

"WE STAYED for 10 days at the Chinese naval base playing basketball while they took care of our fishing vessel and loaded boxes of M-14 rifles and ammunitions. In between, we were taught how to use the AK-47 and the anti-aircraft launcher. That could have been the next shipment."

That was Ka Terry speaking in flawless Kapampangan as he described their brief stay in China in 1972. He was part of the crew of the MV Karagatan, the vessel that was tasked with delivering arms for the underground New People's Army in the Philippines.

Ka Terry is now 51 years old.

and just because there was an arms shipment for the communists the whole country’s freedom needed to be suppressed?  where was our then commander-in-chief’s military?  note that it’s the media that divulged this (according to you), and suddenly, you believe the media despite your repeated claims that they’re not worth believing?

Quote from: Way Nada on May 05, 2011, 01:25:19 PM

By the way... Romulo Kintanar was executed by the Ka Rosal liquidation squad being a traitor to the communist cause.

sure, that was some series of headlines in those days, courtesy of the media.  kintanar’s execution needed all the media exposure it could get as points for the government in the same way that osama bin laden’s assassination now is earning media mileage and points for the u.s.

so kintanar was liquidated for being a traitor, but so did some non-communists who criticized the marcos government also inexplicably disappear forever.  (foremost was one-time presidential confidante and press secretary primitivo mijares, author of 'the conjugal dictatorship of ferdinand and imelda marcos'.  there were unexplained disappearances of an estimated 10 thousand others, all allegedlly against the marcos dictatorship.)
   
it doesn’t follow that just because one side is wrong the other is right.

Quote from: Way Nada on May 05, 2011, 01:25:19 PM
islander wrote: 

"when the philippine free press points out that he “contrived to suppress [that] freedom”, it meant that marcos took away the democratic freedom that was known by the filipino people, that freedom for which those soldiers both dead and living fought for during world war 2,..."

Reply:

I think you are wrong. He did not contrive to suppress our freedom but the communists did. The bombing of Plaza Miranda created the situation as attested to by Cor. Victor Corpuz... after the fall of Marcos when he returned to his unit in the AFP. Ex senator Jovito Salonga a political opponent of Marcos accused him as the mastermind in the Plaza Miranda bombing; but after listening to accounts of the bombing by former communists Romulo Kintanar who returned to the fold of the law saying that; Plaza Miranda bombing was the brainchild of the communists... he [Salonga] stops his accusation.

i think i’m not wrong; i’m just looking at things without myopia.  how can people of another ideology who are not in power ever have the power to suppress a whole country’s freedom?    did the communists do away with the writ of habeas corpus?  did they suppress the press?  let us grant that the communists may have terrified the people, especially those in the countryside, but suppress our freedom?  they were too far away from the reins of power to be able to do that.  have you heard of the word ‘logic’?

Quote from: Way Nada on May 05, 2011, 11:13:20 AM
Marcos allegedly signed an approval to recruit Muslims to be trained clandestinely by the military to sabotage Sabah. In an act of treachery in the person of Ninoy; he divulged to the world of a massacre of muslim in Corregidor. The story of a massacre was a myth creating a crisis for the Philippines when the Australian and the New Zealand navies were deployed right in front of Palawan in defense of Malaysia... an ally in the British commonwealth. The British deployed also the Gurkha Fighters in Sabah to help Malaysia in case the Philippines invade Sabah or North Borneo.

The Philippine government apologized to the Malaysian and the British Commonwealth saying that it was only part of the free rolling Philippine press. But the PFP and other anti Marcos newspapers never rectify their story.

WN

the philippine government apologized in embarrassment, knowing that the secret plan to invade sabah (it wasn't to sabotage) was secret no more because of ninoy, will not have any foreign help, even from the u.s., which despite bilateral military agreements is wont to side with the british.  we didn’t stand a chance.  to supposedly continue keeping the operation secret (face-saving at the expense of lives), the trainees were allegedly massacred. the lone survivor, the one who came out alive to tell the tale, is real and alive and well, as you can see.

Jabidah Massacre survivor to join anniversary rites

By Jocelyn Uy
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 22:49:00 03/17/2008

MANILA, Philippines -- An emblem that commemorates the scores of Moro youths killed in the Jabidah massacre 40 years ago will be unveiled on Tuesday at the Kindley Airfield on Corregidor Island, the scene of the atrocity, according to a Muslim group.

The gruesome Jabidah Massacre was believed to have sparked the Muslim rebellion.  According to the MindaNews web site, it is the reckoning date of the founding of the Moro National Liberation Front (MNLF) although its actual creation was on a much later date.

The event refers to the killings of about 60 Muslim youths trained to invade Sabah by henchmen of the late dictator President Ferdinand Marcos on March 18, 1968.

Only one survived to tell the tale, Jibin Arula, who is expected to lead anniversary rites by the Mindanao Peoples’ Caucus on Corregidor Island on Tuesday.

If Arula would be able to join the group, it would be his first time to set foot on Corregidor since the massacre.


More at http://opinion.inquirer.net/

Quote from: Way Nada on May 05, 2011, 11:13:20 AM
Before Martial Law when Ninoy Aquino's popularity as a critic of Marcos got hold of dossiers pertaining to Muslims massacred [This was known as the Jabidah Massacre.] by the military in Corregidor the PFP and other anti Marcos newspapers bannered the story without even bothering to investigate whether there is truth to their story. Ninoy in a privilege speech spoke of a massacre in congress and that a certain recruit named Arula who survived the massacre was picked up by fishermen in Manila Bay. This was not true and Ninoy believing his own lies went to Sulo to inquire about the person Arula after his speech in congress and he cannot find such a person.

jibin arula is real, alive and well.  if indeed as you claim ninoy didn’t find him when he went to sulu, why, of course, if i were arula, i would not trust any government man to see me.  i’d be too paranoid by then to even believe that the government man in the person of ninoy may even be followed by some military sniper out to finish me off.  


Jibin Arula, lone survivor of the Jabidah Massacre
He's the one in the middle of the photo, in the light blue shirt.  

at the time of the jabidah massacre in 1968, jibin arula was 27 years old.  

really, way nada, sir, it only takes a few minutes and some patience to browse the internet to verify these things.  i personally would not rely on my own figment of imagination, no matter how colorful it may be, just to make myself feel right about my personal biases.    

Quote from: Way Nada on May 05, 2011, 11:13:20 AM
islander wrote:

"the philippine free press magazine has always been a critic of any wrongdoings of any administration, marcos’s or not, long before anyone of us here at tb was probably born.  it is not as if its opinion makers (the columnists) focused only on marcos’s time.  it did have more of marcos, because there was more to write about him considering the number of years he had stayed at malacañang."

Reply:

The PFP should understand that publishing the "truth is always an overmatch" for lies and falsehood. But like the Philippine Free Press whether the disputed issue is a lie doesn't matter as long as contending parties pay the PFP well. The ethical point here is to rectify what had been published as lies and falsehood. But not for the PFP!

don’t tell me it was wrong for the philippine free press magazine (which was established in 1907) to honor marcos as man of the year in 1965.  

meanwhile, here's a little backgrounder that may be worth our while:

“Since 1946, our father has exposed the corruption of Philippine politics through every administration. Having defied the moves of Marcos to impose martial law, he was, upon the declaration of martial law in 1972, arrested and detained.  The Philippines Free Press was shut down, and its assets were sold to a Marcos crony. In 1985, however, our father resumed the publication of the Philippines Free Press to support the candidacy of Corazon Cojuangco Aquino - even in the teeth of military censorship.”  (Enrique L. Locsin on Teodoro M. Locsin Sr.)


http://www.glphils.org/kinship/

Quote from: Lorenzo on May 06, 2011, 04:35:16 AM
This is a very interesting discourse. Thanks Way Nada, Islander, Manong Hubs and all the rest.

most welcome, manoy lorenz.

Quote from: hubag bohol on May 05, 2011, 03:58:02 PM
If Ka Terry is 51 now, he was 12 in 1972. Hmm, precocious kid...

either ka terry was a child soldier (horrors!)

or

way nada (with due respect) copied this directly from a history book published more than a decade ago (this must be a history book because he doesn't believe in media reports, though i can see that the reporter he names is one jo clemente of the inquirer)...

Quote from: Way Nada on May 05, 2011, 09:28:39 AM
islander wrote:

"the irony in the life of marcos is that he made his own life ironic.  there's no doubt about his sincerity when he ran for the top office of the land in the beginning.  along the way, he fell victim, or he allowed himself to be victimized, by the heady addiction of power, and ended up refusing to go down by whatever means. he was a despot, no matter how we look at it, and like most other despots in the world, he wanted to keep power within his family."

Reply:

This is also the irony if we believe too much of the newpapers who cast aspersion and bias opinion against Marcos. If you have no doubt in his sincerity of running for the highest office of the land then it's not addiction. His declaration of Martial Law was to save the Philippines from communist despotism. In 1972 it's either Marcos dictatorship or communist despotism.

you forget that during marcos's two-decade rule he controlled the media for over half of the period.  one of the first things he did after he declared martial law was the closure of all media outlets.  these slowly resurfaced when it was made sure that they would toe the government line.  add the fact that some outlets were taken over by his close associates (a kinder term for cronies), like roberto benedicto, and abs-cbn of the lopezes and rpn came under direct government management, among others.  and they cast aspersion against marcos?  come on.

your declaration that martial law's purpose was to save the country from communist despotism is those media's line.  yet you don't believe in the media?  how can you negate yourself?

Quote
islander wrote:    

"the fact that he had a memo prepared for his wife to take over his presidency of the land is not a media invention, as we may know."

Reply:

It's a media invention and there is no memo of that kind. I think the government introduced by Marcos is new to us and most do not understand how it works. We are being misled by the media that if Marcos dies Imelda will take over. No... it is not that way a parliamentary system works. Cesar Virata who was the prime minister will call for an election.

it is not a media invention.  neither is your claim that it's a media invention an invention of the media because it is your invention. yes, cesar virata was the prime minister then who will call for an election, when told by marcos to do so.

Quote

islander wrote:    

"whatever wrong values were brought along by our colonizers have nothing to do with his decision to stay on and on and on."

Reply:

It was not his decision to stay on forever. He was elected by the people.

WN

if it wasn't, why didn't he simply go down and not run again after two terms because in the first place that was all that the 1935 constitution allowed him?  by 1972, he was already on his second and last term as president.  political analysts were already wagging that he was bound to stay longer.  everything in him, words and deeds, led those keen enough to understand human nature that it wasn't in him to give up power that easily.  

1969 elections

marcos wins a second term, a first in philippine history, in an election allegedly marred by violence, massive cheating, and heavy spending on marcos's part.

1971 constitutional convention

When news broke out that Marcos planned to amend the constitution, allowing him to run for a third term in the presidential elections of 1973, student-led protests erupted in the streets, in what has since become known as the First Quarter Storm of 1970.  Later, student movements also led the Diliman Commune of February 1971.  Despite the violent protests, the Constitutional Convention still convened in June 1971.
http://pcij.org/

1986 snap elections

The snap elections were finally held on 7 February 1986, with Cory Aquino and Salvador “Doy” Laurel running against Marcos and Aurelio Tolentino for the presidency and the vice-presidency.  The heavily-anticipated elections were marred by vote-buying, oppression, and fraudulent results; with Commission on Elections (COMELEC) results were in favor of Marcos while the National Movement for Free Elections (NAMFREL) results were in favor of Aquino.  In protest, thirty computer operators walk out of the COMELEC tabulation center during the tabulation two days after the election.

One of the most brutal incidents that happened in connection with the snap elections was the killing of lawyer Evelio Javier, opposition ex-governor of Antique, on 11 February 1986.  Javier was chased and shot to death in broad daylight at the provincial capitol.  The assassination was considered as one of the tipping points that led to the revolution. At his funeral mass, the official statement of the Catholic Bishops' Conference of the Philippines was read, condemning the elections. (wikipedia)


if these are still media inventions for you and you are therefore inclined not to believe, how does catholic church invention suit you?
 

Quote from: chicogon on May 06, 2011, 02:01:40 AM
Uy! Dia ra si Incredible BT = Bo Toy!!!  a.k.a. Benny Tibbets (BT) kuno, bisag BT as in Bo Toy jud na!!! 

bo toy!  sulod na!  kakan-onon na mi nimoh!

hahaha!  wa na... asa na kaha padulong ning istoryaha...

ipakaon, unya ipakawo pa gyod niya ang cooking pots.  

unya kay ma-divorced na man ang iyang status, mangita na pod ni ug laing asawa.  angay niyang pilion tong pangasawhonon nga di ganahan mangluto ug naa pa gyoy bias towards paper plates.  at least ang problema ang iilo na lang kun unsay gamiton.      

dia ra!



daghanag hubag ani niya uy...

Quote from: chicogon on May 06, 2011, 01:49:28 AM
Bwahahahaha!!! Orig...  

How 'bout green hubag, duna?  Dare!!!

sayang wa si hubag... but i will search the universe usa ha?  

another green perico

Quote from: chicogon on May 06, 2011, 01:36:01 AM
Daan ko pa lagi  

hehe, unsaon, pareha man tang bol-anon ug utok.

right in bohol!

healthy cows eating green grass

green grass

gigutom kong gatan-aw.

kaayo rag mapangag nang mga manunupsop...

ang lisod lang ani kun ang restroom sa taas naay nigamit, unya moadto na lang ka sa silong nga restroom.  ang apan kay nag-lbm ka, wa ka makaabot... pangutana:  mosinaw ba kaha ang imong maagian?

maamo ang mukha.  pareha lagi siya kabuotan ni my pinaborit lorenz ondoy...