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O Come, O Come, Emmanuel - Enya

Easter is always a powerfully reticent moment for me, a time for reflection and a time for forgiveness: for my actions and for the buried hostility of others. There is symbolism in Christ's sacrifice, sufferings and death on the Cross. It should be a model for us and for me. I see that life sufferings and life's tribulations bring nothing but death, but there is life everlasting in Christ. The Lord's resurrection on Easter reminds us that we can always start a new, and most importantly, we should live a life dead to sin (try our hardest) and to live a life in Christ (tho this is not easy, given our humanity).

This begins another Liturgical Year and I cant wait for Christ's Coming again during the coming of Christmas when we celebrate His Coming and Birth.

Veni Veni Emmanuel.....


Veni Veni Emmanuel

Veni Creator Spiritus Holy Gifts

I am the Bread of Life

Quote from: chicogon on May 06, 2011, 01:00:27 AM


Healthy ba kaha ni nga green? Maka diabetic man tingale ni 

lol.

Shepherd Me O God - Psalm 23

Sirach 3:18

The greater you are, the more you must humble yourself; so you will find favor in the sight of the Lord.

Sirach 1:27

For the fear of the Lord is wisdom and instruction, and he delights in fidelity and meekness.

In love, it is necessary to acquire and lose. Sometimes its better to let go than to hold on to something that is destructive.

Quote from: hotice on May 03, 2011, 01:08:58 AM
I think what will be the most important thing that must come to an individual mind is that what happen to your life after death. And besides both theology supports the doctrine of life after death, for muslim, martyrs get 74 virgins and christians be in heaven, etc.... And if you study the doctrines both contextual and metaphorical & dispensational time, this should give you a guidance which is which is the faith you should follow and what is more important for you. and I believe the gospel totaly make sense to me, the theological studies does not contradict to each other though it is written by several prohpets and really seems like it is coming from one source alone.

but such opinion and faith should not make us stereotype but instead be guided and enlightend on which path to follow. We all see the things going on all around the world and that should give us the picture and reflect on to our chosen path.

The beauty of the Gospel is that it coalesces and coincides with its teachings from start to finish: the Power of Saving Faith.

The beauty of the Holy Gospel is that it teaches us to expect the world to come and to practice an active faith in Christ Jesus.

We are promised , as Christians, the salvation of the soul and the overcoming of the world and all the pleasures and pains of the world.

That is the beauty, power, and incorruptibility of the Christian Faith that surmounts the rest.

"Keep your eyes on the Bull's Eye"

Good Job! It was only about time!

For all muslims kono, paradise will be filled with virgins a plenty.

Quran 78:31
…As for the righteous, they shall surely triumph. Theirs shall be gardens and vineyards, and high-bosomed virgins for companions: a truly overflowing cup.


My question is, what about the women? Will they also be given 72 virgins daw? lol 

A prominent muslim imam and poet, Abu Nawas, was also a violent crusader of the Islamic Faith. However, unbenownst to many was that he was a supporter of sodomy and pedophilia. In one poem that he wrote, he expressed this so:

O the joy of sodomy!

So now be sodomites, you Arabs.

Turn not away from it therein is wondrous pleasure.

Take some coy lad with kiss curls twisting on his temple

And ride as he stands like some gazelle standing to her mate.

A lad whom all can see girt with sword and belt not like your whore who has to go veiled.

Make for smooth-faced boys and do your very best to mount them,

for women are the mounts of the devils


It is amazing that this was written by an Islamic Imam. A man of the faith and a crusader for Islam.

tsk tsk tsk. 

Quote from: chicogon on May 03, 2011, 03:19:37 AM
Mao diay ni ila pagtoo... hmmmm, morag daghang taga TB muangay ani da. Unsa man Brad Lorenz, Bay Hubs, Bay Bugs, Bay Vist, Bay Glace, Bay BQN, BNC? Morag kamo man ang mga miembro sa TOS (TB Oragonz Society)  

hehehehe! kuyaw lagi ning mga muslim kai ilang paradisyo, puro ug mga physical treats ug physical enjoyments. wa jamoy spiritualisto nga reward, puro ra ug u-wag u-wag! kahibalo ka, Fr. Roel, nga sa paradise sa muslim, naay mga batang lalake para sa lalake ilang i remedyohon ug ilang i iyuton?


I was shocked to read this too when I read the Q'uran many years ago. Islam and the Q'uran is a hypocritical belief system because despite the outward condemnation of homosexuality and sexuality in general, Allah apparently tells Muhammad that Paradise will be filled with sex and physical pleasures. In other words, a whore-house.

Despite outwardly condemnation or disapproval, homosexuality was and is widely practiced in Islamic countries. To please the homosexuals among his followers, Prophet Muhammad promised them pre-pubescent pear-like boys in Paradise. So after committing plunder, loot, rape and murder in this life, the followers of Islam will get "rewarded" by untouched virginal youths, who are fresh like pearls.

Quran 52:24
…Round about them will serve, to them, boys (handsome) as pearls well-guarded.

Quran 76:19
…And round about them will serve boys of perpetual freshness: if thou seest them, thou wouldst think them scattered pearls.

Quote from: aureliano cilocilo on May 02, 2011, 05:09:42 PM
Kumusta na mga taga Bohol jan, taga Union,Dauis ko matagal nko hindi nka uwi jan sa atin pasensya na mahirap kc ang buhay jan stin e pero mahal ko ang Dauis kc jan ako isinilang e, nandito ako ng work sa K.S.A. ngayun almost 20 yrs. na for family needs syempre.. regarding jan sa topic natin kanya2 kc ang paniniwala ntin e for me i'm solid christian and it wil never change, thks to all of you guys God loves you...

Kamusta Aureliano!

Maraming Salamat sa post at chaka ang intersado mo sa itong topic. At salamat sa inyong sakripisyo sa pamilya na lahat. Our province of Bohol is proud of men and women like you who go abroad to help family and support them!

Welcome to Tubag Bohol Dot Com!

Our Virtual Payag!




PS. Pasensya naman sa tagalog ko dahil hindi ako marunong sinulti sa tagalog. konti lang.

Thanks for this news update.

when both of them get older, the chick needs to watch out for that pussy. pussies get very hungry and violent towards chicks. err, i mean cats (pussy cat).

hehehe, prayer is answered?

This is a very sensitive issue and it is impossible (almost) to not step on toes in this issue. Both sides have valid points.

I acquiesce to the fact that Marcos was a corrupt politician, however, there were some good aspects about him. One thing that we all benefit from are the health centers he and Imelda helped create. For example: The Heart Institute of Asia, The Kidney Center, etc.

AS,

We also hope that you find your quarry through this website. God Bless !

Quote from: hubag bohol on May 01, 2011, 07:53:57 PM
Since, O Mazda, from the beginning, Thou didst create soul and body; mental power and knowledge and since Thou didst place life within the corporeal body and didst bestow to mankind the power to act, speak and guide, you wished that everyone should choose his or her own faith and path freely. --Ahunuvaiti Gatha, Yasna 31, Verse 11

Manong,

Zoroastrianism was , indeed, one of the beautiful earlier forms of Monotheism, and a religion that was uniquely indigenous to Persia (Iran), same as the Baha'i faith.

Incidentally, the number of Zoroastrians and Baha'i adherents are now very low. Many of whom leaving Iran for refugee camps in India, as well as in the Americas.

The Theocratic Government of Islamic Iran (ruled by the Ayatollahs) have enacted policies that persecute  Zoroastrians and Bahai adherents. Jews and Christians in that country are also persecuted.

I have a friend, Saheed, who was a Shia Muslim and left the country (Iran) in the late 70s after the islamic revolution rocked that country. He said to me that during the revolution, islamic radicals killed thousands of iranian-jews, iranian-christians, and iranian-zoroastrians. Many were forced to convert to Islam by the point of the gun; and many also died. My friend, Saheed, later converted to another religion many years after. He told me that he was drawn to it like a bee to honey because of "its absolute teachings of peace, and love...". For almost 20 years now he has been a practicing/devout Roman Catholic.

Quote from: chriswise on May 01, 2011, 07:39:23 PM
And the LORD said . . . “The prophets prophesy lies in My name. I have not sent them, commanded them, nor spoken to them . . .  Jeremiah 14:14

Quote from: chriswise on May 01, 2011, 07:40:40 PM
Your prophets have seen for you False and deceptive visions; They have not uncovered your iniquity . . Lamentations 2:14

Thanks for sharing these two verses, Chris. Again, even Holy Scripture forewarns us to guard and protect the faith from false teachings. As I read this thread and contemplate and internalize the discourse in here, I cannot help but remember the sermon that was given by my parish priest a couple of weeks ago. He referred to all religions and belief systems as being a "DART BOARD". He said this as a means of figurative comparison and to note that each religious faith taught and professed some aspect or part of Divine Truth.

The other religions of the world were like the outer rings of a dart board, as it held some aspect (even if it be minimal) of the Truth. Christianity was the bulls eye. He said something that I think is pertinent in sharing with everyone in here as well, "So, you all should keep your eyes on the Truth and focus on the Bulls Eye..."


Thanks and Blessings!
Lorenzo

Quote from: chriswise on May 01, 2011, 03:29:30 PM
Sa akong ipinyon,usa ra gayud ang sinugdan pero,kon sa Judaism ang kang moises deli man tanang sakop niya nitoo ni Kristo nga muabot,
hantod paman karon wala man sila motoo ni Jesus Christ.Kadto diay pagkamatay ni Kristo sa krus,diba naa may mabasa nga,bisan pakuno sa pagkabanhaw ni Kristo,daghan pa gihapon ang wala ni too niini.kinsa man tong mga tawahana?Taga israel diba.Ang kadtong nitoo kay gisangyaw man nila ang nasaksiyan,Naa poy basa nato nga niingon ang Ginoo isangyaw sa tibook kalibutan ang nasaksihan,sa iya daw yutang natawhan sinalikway ang DIOS.Niadtong panahona nga hari sa kalibutan ang mga Romans.
Og atong pod makomparar kon mag hisgot ta og prophet,Jesus Christ og MOhammad.Makita nato nga si Jesus Christ naa tanang kaayo isip usa ka prophet.Si mohammad unsa naa niya?Naa ba diay prophet na warrior?
Ang bible is complate naa tanan diha polong sa GINOO,kon imong basahon tanan diha sa BIBLE unya imong e comparar sa Quaran layo ra kaayo.opposite kaayo,usa pa sa quaran imong mabantayan nga gi insert si mohammad imbes kay si Jesus Christ,ngano anak ba sa Ginoo SI mohammad?deli diba?,,moingon ang muslim bible daw usa raka diary sa karaang panahon maoy ilang pag too,quaran daw maoy sakto,gikan daw ni ALLAH..Ang balaang kasulatan gikan sa GINOO sinulat sa mga balaang tawo,giniyahan sa espirito santo..Pagkamatay ni mohammad modagan pa og pila ka mga tuig usa pa masulat ang Quaran,na sa ato pa deli jod gikan mohammad kadtong rang mga sumosunod niya.,
Ang uyuan daw ni mohammad usa ka paring katoliko iyang gipatay.
Kon tinood ba ang Quaran,naay makita nga orihinal nga suwat,,pero ang BIBLE naa guyd orihinal,imo daw makita sa british museum og sa Rome museum.ang mga muslim nag too nga ang GINOO ilang gisimba maoy tinood deli parehas sa mga christian.,dako kaayong sukwahi sa christian,kay Love your enemy man sa ilaha patyon mao sugo di mohammad,kinsay mosopak patyon.Gitagna man daan sa kasulatan nga moabot gyud ang higayon na matunga ang pagtoo sa kalibutan pero sa ingon ni ana deli gyud maguba og patumpag ang simbahan na iyang gitokod,Kitang tawo gisukod gyud og unsa ka lig on atong pagtoo..

My friend,

Islam was spread through the sword and through forced conversion. That is the main difference. Christianity, in the beginning, was a persecuted religion and spread its influence through good works, as well as saving faith and eventually blossomed in the many communities in the ancient world.

Christianity , and Christians were persecuted and killed in the beginning. The Jews regarded the early Christians as a radical sect of Judaism and persecuted them accordingly. The Roman Empire , too, persecuted the early Christians in the form of entertainment in the Gladiatorial Games. The Roman Emperors Caligula and Nero were known for their voracious hatred for the Christians and enacted policies for their arrest and murder. It is ironic tho, that within 2 centuries, the very religion that was persecuted by the ancient Romans became the state religion of the entire Roman Empire when the Roman Emperor Constantinus Augustus converted to Christianity ; and with it enacted policies that facilitated the growth of Christian communities and the ceasure of state-supported persecution of Christian communities. By this effect, Christianity became the state religion of the Roman Empire.

Compare Christianity's mode of spread to that of Islam's. The latter (Islam) was spread via the sword. Muhammad, was a brilliant tactician and political leader then turned theocratic overlord. He utilized brutal military tactics to build his power base; he employed thousands of soldiers to rob, kill and hijack the caravan traders in the Arabian peninsula. This brilliant strategy led to the starving of the principalities of Medina and Mekka , which reduced their defenses. Muhammad then amassed a great army and eventually conquered the city of Medina and Mekka by force; killing and wiping out the defenders and then instituting forced conversion of the population of the two cities.

Muhammad was brilliant. He became the ultimate leader, comparable to a proto-Ayatollah or proto-Mullah. He not only was the political overlord of the Arabian peninsula but also a self-declared theocratic leader as well (as he claimed to be the prophet of Allah (ironically in the old Arabian polytheistic religion, the god Allah was a king of many gods). With Muhammad holding political, economic as well as religious authority (ABSOLUTE POWER), his will was the law.

He legitimized himself even in the SHAHADA, which states:
  lā ʾilāha ʾillallāh, Muḥammad rasÅ«lu-llāh) (in Arabic)
   There is no god but God, and Muhammad is the messenger of God.




     Best,
     Lorenzo

Quote from: jorgeanna on May 01, 2011, 06:11:01 PM
basta i am a proud muslim even if i practice catholicism :-)

Your Sulu blood is strong, Anne.

Quote from: chicogon on May 01, 2011, 06:45:56 AM
Bran, don't you share in the person of Jesus Christ as priest, prophet and king, by vitue of your baptism? If so, then you must be a priest, prophet and king, too. And so does Mahammadd to the Muslims. (I think)

I deign to add , Fr. Roel, that the Christian concept and belief of Christ's Sonship to God The Father is not necessarily shared in the Islamic belief system. More importantly, unlike Christans who regard Christ as God the Son, an integral member of the Trinitarian view of The Lord God, the muslims reject that view wholeheartedly.

In fact, it is an integral aspect within Islam to teach other muslima that Jesus Christ is Not God's Son. Muslims and the Q'uran reject the notion of Christ's divinity and saving power.

This is specifically seen in Surah 19:88-95,

"And they say: The Beneficent God has taken (to Himself) a son. Certainly you have made an abominable assertion The heavens may almost be rent thereat, and the earth cleave asunder, and the mountains fall down in pieces, That they ascribe a son to the Beneficent God. And it is not worthy of the Beneficent God that He should take (to Himself) a son. There is no one in the heavens and the earth but will come to the Beneficent God as a servant. Certainly He has a comprehensive knowledge of them and He has numbered them a (comprehensive) numbering. And every one of them will come to Him on the day of resurrection alone.

Islam also denies that Jesus Christ suffered, and died on the Cross for our sins. So, according to Islam, none of us are saved because Jesus Christ did not die on the Cross, which was integral for the Salvation of all sins.

This is seen in Surah 4: 157,

That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah.;- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not.


If we follow and refer to Catholic and Christian Scripture, we cannot help but remember the verse from Matthew Chapter 10 verse 32-33,

32 So everyone who acknowledges me before men, I also will acknowledge before my Father who is in heaven, 33 but whoever denies me before men, I also will deny before my Father who is in heaven.

again, Christ reminds us that He is the way to Salvation. In Him there is salvation, outside of Him, there is nothing. Those who do not believe in Christ will die in their sins. Our Risen Lord, Jesus Christ tells us this in John Chapter 8 verses 23 to  30,


23 And Jesus said unto  them, “You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world. 24 I told you that you would die in your sins, for unless you believe that I am he you will die in your sins.” 25 So they said to him, “Who are you?” Jesus said to them, “Just what I have been telling you from the beginning. 26 I have much to say about you and much to judge, but he who sent me is true, and I declare to the world what I have heard from him.” 27 They did not understand that he had been speaking to them about the Father. 28 So Jesus said to them, “When you have lifted up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am he, and that I do nothing on my own authority, but speak just as the Father taught me. 29 And he who sent me is with me. He has not left me alone, for I always do the things that are pleasing to him.” 30 As he was saying these things, many believed in him.

Quote from: hofelina on April 30, 2011, 06:03:52 PM
syempre mas hamis ang Bol-anon!

Tinuod ba? Hamis diay ang bajing Bol-anon? Hmm wa man ko ka tilaw sa Bol-anon, ku an ra man ahong gi tilaw tilaw, ang baji sa Ilo-Ilo.

Mamords kaajo ang Ilongga, pero ingon pood sila kono nga mamords kono ang mga baji sa Bohol.

I have seen the beautiful women of Valencia and Guindulman. Ma kujawa-an pood ta ka arang gwapahan ang baiji didto...

"I love you with all of my heart,...."

by: Jamie Wright


I do believe we're at the end of the road,
We have no one to show us what direction to go.
This path we've chosen, we chose it alone,
It's nobodies fault, but our own.
We can get through this if we take it slow,
Rebuild our relationship, let it grow.
Soon we'll see our love flow,
As I have faith, and you have hope.

Quote from: chriswise on April 30, 2011, 08:10:52 PM
The messenger of Allah said: "Islam is to testify that there is no god but Allah and Muhammad is the messenger of Allah, to perform the prayers, to pay the zakat, to fast in Ramadan, and to make the pilgrimage to the House if you are able to do so." He said: " You have spoken rightly", Jebreel (Gabriel) from Number 2 of "Al-Nawawi's Forty Hadiths."

Brother Chris,

Are you a Muslim?

Quote from: hotice on April 30, 2011, 10:29:41 PM
If you're a Christian then this strongly go against your doctrine.
It is like oil and water, liquid in form, but can never mix.
This is the same for them as well.
Your faith is your Personal choice.
To be a believer or non believer.

I respect your choice and your decision. If one believes in the teachings of one's faith, then it is really up to that individual to make decision. This is the importance of living up to one's principles. Principles of the faith, as well as principles of standing up to one's belief and defending that belief.

I acquiesce that there are honorable traits in all religious belief systems.

The clear and delineating difference:

There is no concept of personal salvation in Islam. Everytime I asked this to the imams and the arab professors in college, their answer was always in reference to the Laws of Islam and in abiding in the Laws.

Islam, like Judaism, is founded on strict adherence on their Laws and living according to the Laws.

In my view, Christianity is unique because Christians have transcended the Law because Christ's coming into the world was the fulfillment of the Law, as He reminds us that living according to the Law reminds us of our sinful nature, and believing in him justifies us from sin. The psychological and spiritual dynamic of Christianity and the concept of Salvation is unique from the other 2 Abrahamic faiths (Islam and Judaism) in that only Christianity has the concept of personal Salvation in Christ.

My view lang.

I studied Islam and the Quran in college heavily, was interested in their teachings during the class (i took 4 classes on this). Culturally and historically Islam helped unite a polytheistic and divided Arabian world. There are many tenets of Islam (the hadiths) that I admire, and find similarity in with Chistianity. One example is the muslim concept of Zakkat, which expouses to give 10% of one's earnings to the poor and needy; this is similar to the Christian concept of Tithing, which also mandates giving 10% of one's earnings to the Church.

One thing that I do not agree tho, and this is my own personal opinion, is the idea that Muhammad was a prophet of God. I believe he was a good tactician, and brilliant leader. He unified a divided and polytheistic people on the basis of Judaistic-Christian concept and applied it to the Arab setting.

Reason why I do not believe he (Muhammad) was a prophet is because of the following:

1. There can be no prophet after Jesus Christ. Jesus is the Fulfillment of the Law and the Seal of the Prophets. The Word made Flesh

2. Islam denies the divinity of Jesus Christ. Islam refers to Jesus (ISSA) as a mere prophet and do not recognize the his death on the crucifix.


I respect muslims and admire its effect on the arab world and the cultural-historical dynamic of that region of the world. But I disagree with their teachings and the core teachings on salvation.

Happy Fiesta, Tagbilaran City!!!

No wonder why there are more documented AIDS cases in India than any country in the world. Filthy.

Quote from: Raquelproud boholana on April 29, 2011, 12:02:59 PM
http://www.chinasmack.com/2010/pictures/filthy-india-photos-chinese-netizen-reactions.html
click ni nga link kuyaw kaayo diay ang india perting hugawa ilang river bisan asa ra gipanglabay ang patay.

This is disgusting. Absolutely disgusting.

Quote from: Way Nada on April 29, 2011, 05:30:32 PM
Ang mga sabadista nag-una ini. Ang ilang boot pasabot nga nakasuwat kuno na sa tiara sa Santo Papa. Pero dili tinood kundi butang-butang lang.

WN

They are very much wrong, Way Nada. As with anything false, we must correct them and guide them towards truth.

Post modernist evangelical churches that relate this number to heads of churches are too accusatory. It is evident that the number 666 was in reference to the Emperor of Rome at the time of the great Christian purges. He was Nero, the last member of the Julio-Claudian Dynasty of Rome.

Again, there are post modern churches that make reference to Rome being the new Babylon, then referring to America as the new Babylon etc etc. It changes with the times and with the interest of that church's pulpit.

This is a result of improper guidance and misinterpretation of Sacred Scripture, which itself was written and organized by the Holy Roman Catholic Church.

Bless the Lord, O my soul, and do not forget all his benefitsâ€"who forgives all your sins and heals all your diseases, who redeems your life from the pit and crowns you with love and compassion, who satisfies your desires with good things so that your youth is renewed like the eagle's.

Psalm 103:2-5

Why are you cast down, O my soul, and why are you disquieted within me? Hope in God; for I shall again praise him, my help and my God. By day the Lord commands his steadfast love, and at night his son is with me, a prayer to the God of my life.

Psalm 42: 5,8

Quote from: bugsay on April 28, 2011, 11:25:15 AM
hapit na ka mapari, bai Lorenz.....kay natakdan na ka ni Pader Tsikz... ...

bwahahaha bitaw, kini si Fr. Tsikz murag master ni sija sa acronyms da. Na takdan lang ko pero not compared to his mastery level.

awww, ma hadlok pood ta ma pari, bai bugsay. di man ko isug pariho ni pader roel.

Quote from: Lollapalooza on April 28, 2011, 11:23:55 AM
pareha ra pod na sa slogan sa una para sa mga female teachers "Be Proud You are a TEACHER! The Future of Your Husband depends on You!!!"

pariha ra jyud ni, Jenneth! bwahahaha first time jud ko ka hear anang version da! katawa ko.

Quote from: chicogon on April 29, 2011, 05:30:57 AM
Bran, you like it ha? They too had a blast when I read it in the office 

super like jyud.

hahahaha.

Quote from: cujo on April 19, 2011, 12:12:29 AM
First of all you don't just harvest someone's organ without considering if that person has it in writing that he or she is willing to donate their organs if something happen to them or from family members permission...Right?

That is correct, Cujo. It must be clear via a written consent or made known by a power of attorney.

If a person makes it known that he/she is an organ donor, and he/ she happens to get into a car accident and is declared brain dead then we would maintain her / him on life support until the organs are readied and sent. When the organs are removed, then the patient will be removed from life support.

Usually, we acquire most of the organs of the donor patients. And if the patients made it known in their written consent, their bodies are even used for medical science.

If patient 6 is dying, then it would suffice to say that this patient is going through organ failure and thus it would be pertinent to ask what kind of condition this patient has.

If this patient has AIDS, no doctor in his or her right mind would be wanting to use any organs for transplant. If this patient is a CHF/CRF patient, then it would be suffice to say that most of the other organs are already damaged for transplant. One would have to research more on condition patient 6 has.

In a medical ethics point of view, it would be unethical for a doctor to kill a patient to save other patients. It breaches our professional code. In the end, medicine is about prolonging life to the best possible way.

In assessing and managing a patient, the Golden Rule of Medicine outranks the rest, "First, DO NO harm."

Quote from: bugsay on April 28, 2011, 11:03:36 AM
6K lage sweldo sa nurse pero ang bana kay OFW man.....pang experience lang ang tuyo o ba kaha trabaho pa wa sa kalaay o naglikay sa buhatonon sa balay...

hahaha! lupig diay ang mga laki nga BSN sa laki nga OFW.

BSN = Bana ko Sa Nurse

bwahaha!

naa kay point, bai bugsay. tinuod bitaw nga depende ra ni sa gidakon sa pamilya. okey ra ning 10 k a month ug usa ra anak , pero ug daghang anak, luoy pood ang bata kai dili ka afford sa schooling.

10k a month is the salary of nurses didto sa Tagbilaran Community Hospital. Ang sweldo sa nurse sa Gallares Hospital kai 6k a month ra man galing...

Quote from: bugsay on April 28, 2011, 10:53:48 AM
medyo mada-da na bitaw ni'ng 10K sa probinsya, abag-abagan lang pod ug pananggot ug pamingwit..

daku naman ni tingali didto sa Valencia, diba, bai bugsay?

Maka palit na ta ug ginamos, maka palit pood ta'g karne didto sa karnera. ug usang sako sa humay. ah, okey raman lagi ning 10k sa valencia, basta naay pood gamay nga basak.

maka start man pood sigoro ta ug pig farm/ chicken farm to augment this 10k a month income.

And the occasional tuba tuba durante el fin de semana...hehehe

I think I can live off 10,000 pesos a month if i had to in the Philippines. Isda and rice everyday. Okey lang basta naa ginamos/bolinaw gikan sa Valencia.

And do not forget to do good and to share with others, for with such sacrifices God is pleased.

-Hebrews 13:16

Quote from: chriswise on April 27, 2011, 09:23:13 PM
agooyyyy,,sakit tohod nimo ana ron,,motokar rayumss nimo,,he,

Hahahaha. ajaw lagi kaon ug chicken gizzards ug tendons.

pa andam na jud ug allopurinol, colchicine, ug tanan nga anti-gout rx

Quote from: chriswise on April 27, 2011, 11:02:54 PM
omega ra bai,,katapat,,

lol. dili lang omega, bai chris.

ug ing ana man diay gi-kan-on

murag mo andam na ug Colchicine ug allurinol para sa gout

ug mo inom pood ug atorvostatin ug diovan para sa high blood lol!

ug severe na galing (as in ka lami'a sa humba ug lechon) na...andam na jud ug cardiac stent....LOL!

1 man is being bad mouthed by hundreds and thousands and many more who use this as an agenda to bash Roman Catholic Church and Teachings.

Kamo tanan, ajaw mo pag bin-u-ang diri lagi. Ang mga demonyo ning katawa aning situwasyon.

Ampo na lang ta tanan nga ma solve ni dali.

Ang mga thread starters sa Facebook, di pood sila ma luod no? Di pood sila ma uwawon no? Ning hound jud ni sila sa pari even tho Easter just recently past, they still are engaging in negative talks.

Hypocrites! Ug ma matay na sila, mo hilak ug mo hangyo hangyo sa pari i-ampohan sila kai dili sila gusto mo adto sa IMPYERNO, pero ug naay chance, ilang i bad-mouth-on ang pari, ang trabajante ni HESU KRISTO.

Na luod jud ko.

Quote from: chicogon on April 28, 2011, 04:50:22 AM
Aw, kaliwat diay pod nig taga Catigbian... iya Mama is a Reformina from Catigbian, unya Papa from Balingsya. Unya ang gikan sa Batuan tua karon sa Catigbian hehehe.

Parehas ra pod sa inyoha, BQN: ang dating kura sa Loboc nga si Fr. Alger Angcla, akong 1st degree cuzin from Catigbian, maoy tua karon sa Sandingan (Loon), unya ang gikan sa Sandingan, Fr. Mante, maoy napoy naa karon sa Loboc. Pero ang isyu sa Loboc apil man ang LGU. Unsa man joy tinuod isyu diha? Iapil ug bungat deri kay atong himbisan. 

Isuga lagi ni si Fr. Salise da. He does not care what those who bad-mouth his character says. Isug jamo!

Mao diay kai anak man diay sa VALENCIA.

Quote from: bol-anon quo nyur! on April 28, 2011, 04:43:45 AM
Sigurado ko, dili magpa bungot si Father CHIC. kai ngano? MAHAL BLADE!!!

hahahahaha. da! di ko mo tuo ana kai naa baja to sija bungot sa last year.

guapo baja ni si Fr. Roel. Mestizo guapo lagi.

Na luod ko lang sa first 5 lines sa original starter sa facebook. I do not particularly like the demeaning posts of some of the posters in that link, Nong.

Na wad-an ahong intersado sa adtong thread. Di na lang ko mo participate sa demeaning sa kining pari.

Whoever he is, and whatever he did, it should not be made a mockery in social network sites. But this should have been addressed accordingly and directly.

Network bashing of this man is on the grounds of libel. He cannot even defend himself.

Quote from: bol-anon quo nyur! on April 28, 2011, 04:41:31 AM

Sige, Nong. I basahon nako ron.

Quote from: chicogon on April 28, 2011, 04:36:50 AM
Bitaw, gihinganlan man gani ko ni Brad Lorenz. Mag maskara na kog balik ani aron di bun-og bato ni media girl from Bohol 

bwahahahahaha.

Na hala, mag bungot na lang pood, Fr. Roel. Sigurado ko ug mo grow ka ug bungot, dili lagi sila kahibalo kinsa ka.

Mo ingon sila, "Oy kinsa man nang guwapong jamo kaayong tawhana? Pari ba na sija? Di sigoro kai arang gwapoha man...!!"

bwahahahahahahaha

Quote from: bol-anon quo nyur! on April 28, 2011, 04:34:52 AM
Bai BNC, Salise ang apelido sa pari nga ilang gi estoryahan sa Batuan...Kong WAA KO masayop.

BQN,

In that case, paryente diay ning pari sa Batuan nako. Kai naa baya ko dugo nga SALISE. Kining Salise taga Valencia baya ni sila...

Quote from: chicogon on April 28, 2011, 03:07:12 AM
Huhuhu!!! But you are naming me... I'm supposedly ChicogoN. 

okey lang lagi. kai wa bitaw gi name-an imong apilido. bwahahahahaha

another one (bruno mars' grenade)

Easy come, easy go
That's just how you live, oh
Take, take, take it all,
But you never give
Should of known you was trouble from the first kiss,
Why were they open?
Gave you all I had
And you tossed it in the trash..

Quote from: bol-anon quo nyur! on April 28, 2011, 03:46:42 AM
I'm jus't a POOR BOY, NO-NO-NO money

bwahahaha !

Well said, Fr. Roel. This is a good reminder for all of us not to engage in proliferating here-says. I'm happy that the original poster did not name the priest in question because these charges can be deemed libelous.

Fr. Roel is correct. If you have a problem with someone, address it to the person in question. Don't propagate here-says especially if they are not proven!

Quote from: islander on April 28, 2011, 02:49:55 AM
one more reason why it is difficult for me to believe hook, line, and sinker what started this thread in the first place.  there really is no protection for priests when it comes to intrigues in his own parish, especially one that is crawling with pharisees.  priests may have some character flaws, as we all have, but we must err on the side of compassion when it comes to rumors and innuendos.   

Isles,

I agree with you. Libel is very dangerous and I do hope that the original poster knows that people can be sent to court for libel and for the destruction of character. I know many people in the Philippines and in the United States who were sued for libel. So please, members, becareful what you write here in this public forum. Make sure you are not tarnishing names as it can come back at you. In the court of Law.

Quote from: chicogon on April 28, 2011, 02:48:20 AM


Much like your question about Perpetual Help, remember? Tinuod na!

Fr. Roel, remember the santo nino that i asked you to bless when i met up with you with the puppies?

i was holding that when i was buying the rose from that little boy....

Quote from: chicogon on April 28, 2011, 02:42:28 AM
Or, drink wine while in church only and red horse when in school, bwahahaha 

fr. roel, kini si dad, dili galing ni sija mo inom ug alcohol. dili mo sigarilyo.

mao na ug mo inom galing ko, ma uwawon ko. kai maka kita ko sa iyang nawong. ma hadlok ko kai i can see my dad's eyes ...

Praise be to God...

Luke Chapter 20 verses ,


As he looked up, Jesus saw the rich putting their gifts into the temple treasury.  He also saw a poor widow put in two very small copper coins.  "I tell you the truth," he said, "this poor widow has put in more than all the others.  All these people gave their gifts out of their wealth; but she out of her poverty put in all she had to live on...."

Jesus doesn't care who gives the most. Remember, friends, remember when Jesus was at the temple and he saw a poor old woman who gave all that she had. He said that--that was more pleasing to the LORD than the pharisess who gave thousands of what they had.

I will find the verse for you all to read.

This reminds me of the time when I went to visit the Shrine of Senor Santo Nino in Cebu. While i was trying to look for roses and plants to offer the Blessed Holy Child, all the sellers came to me with their large flowers, and roses, the price range for these were anywhere from 50 to 150 to 300 pesos. all of these were grand looking.

However, while i was choosing, a little boy came behind me and tugged on my shirt.

"Sir, palit'a ni, sir. 15 pesos lang."

This little boy showed me this beautiful red rose. I fell in love with it and got it.
I gave him 15 pesos, but went to my pockets to give him a tip, and by the time i was about to give it to him, when i turned around, he was already gone. I could not find this little boy.

When I told this to my cousin and my uncles, the said kono, "It was probably Senor Santo Nino, dong..."

hehehe, it reminds me that "grandeur" doesn't really count sometimes.

what counts is what comes from the heart.

this refers, too, in regards to church offerings.

Quote from: jorgeanna on April 27, 2011, 11:56:08 PM
moral lesson of the story: its better to be simple so that you will be left alone

sometimes, dressing simple and carrying one's self in a simple manner is the best deterrent of competitive comparisons.

Quote from: chicogon on April 28, 2011, 12:05:22 AM
"Easy come , easy go... will you let me go. Bismillah! No, we will not let you go!" (Bohemian Rhapsody) 

Yallah! Indeed, easy come, easy go! Alhamdulillah!

May we always practice financial responsibility...Inshallah... 

Quote from: jorgeanna on April 27, 2011, 11:56:08 PM
Lorenz, i have a story in relation sa imong story pud.... my friend man gud ask me why i will not buy expensive cellphones like Iphone and i told her ngano man tawn mupalit ko... she told me nga status symbol daw na ... but i replied nga why will i let other people know nga i have money or i am rich para daghan mangutang nako unya dli baya ko pa-utang so mudaghan na hinoon masuko og mu-kontra nako ........... moral lesson of the story: its better to be simple so that you will be left alone

hahaha i like it. the problem with status symbols is that it's always changing. its what we call "keeping up with the jones'".

okay ug maka palit ka'g lami nga auto, o nindot nga sanina, pero, to the point where one's expenses is greater than one's earnings...that is just down right stupid.

mao na take for example my dad. my dad is very simple man, very hard working engineer. dili mo wear ug jewelry, o dili mo wear nga sobrang expensive clothes, pero, in reality, millionaryo na ni sija sa ijang savings. my father is a firm believer in investments in trusts and bonds. ug mo spend galing ni sija, he does not even touch his savings or do so where it flaunts.

kai ug mo balik na jud si dad sa pilipinas, mo tabang man sija sa daghang tawo ug sa mga pamilya.

my father cautioned me once when i was spending too much while in college, "anak, don't have wine tastes when you have beer pockets..."

Manong Hubag,

they should change his title now from "living" god to "dead" god.

Lorraine and our two brothers.
She is going to be visiting Bohol, Philippines this summer.
The last time she was in Bohol was in 1998.

Mo balik si mommy ug si Lorraine karong Summer 2011.

Lorraine Lucino has finished her 2nd year of Medicine.

Mo balik sija sa ijang yutang na tawhan...VALENCIA, BOHOL.

naa silay ginoo nga elepante. ijang ngalan kono "ganesha". kining elepante kahibalo pood ni sija mo duwa ug flute, ug kahibalo kono mo kaon ug sweet rice.

oy, naa pood sa ilang reliyon nga hadlokon kono ilang ginoong elepante sa ilaga.

jawa jawa ra ni sila da. jawa-ang daku!

Quote from: chriswise on April 27, 2011, 11:16:27 PM
klaro jod ni siya nga peke,,ambot kaha ngano daghan mang manga huna2x nga maliso,,lisod pod lagi ning deli mangutana unsay katin awan,,mo deseder lang deritso na mao nani,,,,

hehehe, lisod man gud ning mga hindu kai superstitious man ni sila. mo ampo galing ni sila sa baka ug elepante,....

lol

ka bu-anga !

Quote from: chriswise on April 27, 2011, 11:13:51 PM
mao lagi na giingon nga moabot ang panahon na daghan moingon GINOO daw messenger daw,,usa na siya,,gitag an naman daan sa balaang kasulatan,nang mga panghitaboa,,,

Tinuod sa Tinuod! Mao na hapit na lagi ang end times.

You are right, Chris. If we have a question on something, we should ask the Diocesan head for answers to this question and if there is a problem, they can make the appropriate action to resolve the situation.

In all my life of going to church, no priest has ever said to me, "oy, doy, gamay ra man imong gi hatag sa simbahan. i-duganga ba..."

dili.

naka kita galing ko sa una sa valencia, ang usang baji sa taga bukid sa anas, ning hatag ra sija sa pari ug 5 pesos. Ang pari ning pasalamat, "salamat manang. Ang Ginoo naa nimo!"

Quote from: chriswise on April 27, 2011, 08:57:37 PM
siya raman pod nag ingon,,,

Bai Chris,

This is a result of his over-active imagination and his excellent charlatan skills that allowed him to fool millions into believing he was a god. In the end his 'godship' resulted in a very effective pyramid scheme and monetary growth of his financial empire.

A god who was so interested in money and monetary programs. Kining tawhana--ay usang ehemplo sa modern version of Simon Magnus.

Quote from: chriswise on April 27, 2011, 12:41:49 AM
Sathya Sai Baba Dies at the age of 86.
PUTTAPARTI,  South India, April 24, 2010-Spent all of his life for the betterment of poor public but criticized by thousands and worshiped by millions, Sathya sai baba dies today leaving his all good and bad to the public and left millions shocked in grief. Hindu guru Sathya Sai Baba, worshiped as a god by millions of followers worldwide, died Sunday morning in a hospital near his southern Indian ashram. He was 86.

Sai Baba had spent nearly a month on breathing support and dialysis while struggling with multiple-organ failure after being admitted March 28 to the Sri Sathya Sai Institute of Higher Medical Sciences, near his ashram in Puttaparti village in Andhra Pradesh state.

Women selling marigold garlands broke down in tears outside the ashram when the news of his death was announced, and followers began trickling into the temple complex where the guru’s body would lie in state Sunday night through Tuesday. Hundreds of thousands of devotees are expected to pay last respects. A funeral with state honors is planned Wednesday morning.

An absolute sham, this is an example of a man who is a liar and a deceiver. A god who died of congenital heart failure and associated renal failure.

If he was a god, why did he die? If he was a god, why did he not ascend into heaven?

And if he was a god, why is he being burned/ cremated into dust and ashes?

The month of May is coming up soon. Mother's Day being around the corner always has its effect on me in opening my memories , particularly in remembering my late grandmother, Lola Nating. Last time I thought about her while i was at work and remembered how the sound of her voice was like, with the typical Valencianhon twang in the pronunciation of words, her loving nature and kisses on my cheeks. As a child whose two parents were abroad working, my Lola Nating fulfilled the role of grandmother as well as mother to me and my younger sister.

I can still remember her getting ready for Church Mass on Sundays. She used to wear Johnson's baby cologne and apply some on my cousins and I.

Lola Nating, I am remembering you this coming Mother's Day.

Quote from: chriswise on April 27, 2011, 09:59:49 PM
DELI na mao jod,,,manghod sa akong asawa graduate man pod to,,ako gani meeting PTA,,,gamay raman bayas misa oi,,,isumbong na sa dako,,kay usahay naa pod ingon ana nga nahitabo,,,

Chris,

I know that it is good to donate some money to the church during prayers for the dead and for the blessings of people during birthdays, but gamay ra man pood ang donation. Bitaw, i never heard of anything in the likes of 3k or more for blessings. I think this issue has to be screened and researched before we all make any accusations and members of the Church.

Any ways, to the Original Poster, if you have a question and concern regarding how a particular priest in your town is officiating parish business, then it would be better to address this issue to him directly.

Sometimes, it is better to address a problem one on one. Please also know that how one priest behaves does not represent the millions of priests working in Christ's Vineyard.

Sumbohan,

The complaint that you are sharing with us, tho is apparent in the municipality that you are referencing to, is not true for all parishes as as not all parishes impose this. In fact, this is the first time I ever heard of such an incident. If there are transgressions that you and people in your town feel have been made by the new parish priest, perhaps it would be pertient for you and concerned church goers to go to the rectory and present this situation to the priest directly. Sometimes, it is better to ask the priest a reason for these practices and so there is transparency and resolution to the qualms that you and other respected , concerned citizens have.

If you feel that his answer is not sufficient, then perhaps it would be advisable to mention this to the Diocese of Tagbilaran City.

I do hope that this situation is resolved soon for you and other concerned church faithful.

God Bless.

Today is the day that we have been given by the LORD. So, with all our hearts, minds, and body, let us rejoice. Think not about your weaknesses, failures, because the LORD looks past these failings if you but LOVE Him whole heartedly. God sees what man cannot see; God sees and searches the heart and mind. So, brothers, tho we are sinners and filled with fault, know that you are BELOVED by GOD. Rejoice in Him.

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Rejoice in the Lord always. I will say it again: Rejoice! Let your gentleness be evident to all. The Lord is near. Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God. And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus. Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirableâ€"if anything is excellent or praiseworthyâ€"think about such things.

Philippians 4:4-8

In medicine, i notice that alot of doctors all have this idea of getting the 'best of the best' things. This is why in America, there are alot of doctors who are in debt. Really.

Some physicians  have very comfortable salary, however, because of poor financial responsibility, are in their knees in debt. I know a doctor who makes $700,000 a year, however, she spends over $750,000 a year. The result? Debt!

I know a surgeon who makes over $1.5 million a year, but because of his frivolous real estate spending, new cars, and expensive tastes is spending over $2 million a year. The result? Alarming debt!

Yet I know of a nurse who makes $95,000 a year , but spends only half of what he makes a year. A result? He saves at leaste $40,000 a year. Mao nang financial practicality/ financial responsibility.

There are two people in a room: Person A and Person B.

Person A is dressed in average attire, wears no jewelry, no fancy material; whereas person B is dressed in the most expensive attire, jewelry galore.

But in reality, Person A's bank account has $50,000 in his checking and $650,000 in his savings.

Person B's bank account has $500 in his checking and $650 in his savings.

--

Here lies irony and twist. What appears rich in the outside, really is not. And what appears poor in the outside is, by any means, not poor at all, but quite comfortable financially.



Moral of the story: Save your money. Money, like fresh pandesal, is hot and goes away quickly. Practice financial conservatism.

Quote from: jorgeanna on April 27, 2011, 08:41:01 AM
Lorenz, murag true ning imong analysis .... basig mao ni reason ngano super tihik kaayo ko but when it comes sa 2 girls and my hubby, perti pud ko ka bongga.. other than that, i dont share hehehehe

In other words, you are financially responsible. Salute ko nimo, Anne.

Money does not grow on trees; and unlike what some people think, finding money abroad is not an easy ordeal, let alone saving enough for one's family expenses. The practice of financial conservatism/ financial responsibility is the basis for stability in one's home; it is one of the core pillars that maintains a stable family dynamic.

As what my mother and father always tell me, "Save your money. Save because you don' know when rainy days will come."

Quote from: chicogon on April 27, 2011, 05:13:18 AM
Devotion to Our Mother of Perpetual Help is very strong and people claim strong affinity, intimacy, favors, etc to the Blessed Mother. In other words, tinuod daw... 

Thank You, Fr. Roel. Next time, mag benediction ko ni Mother  Mary.

Quote from: hofelina on April 27, 2011, 04:34:24 AM
naanad nako sa kinabuhing pobre, dili nako malisang ni-ana. Para nako kon adunay anak nga pa-eskwelahon anha matagamtam ang kapait sa pagbayad sa tuition fee.

Manay,

To suffer financially also is a blessing. It perfects one's saving capability and saving earnings and funds. Mao sigoro ni nga ang mga Bol-anon kwartahon kaayo kai pobre man sila sa una, karon kahibalo na sila mo tigum ang kwarta.

Being kuripot isn't a 'bad' thing.

Quote from: islander on April 20, 2011, 01:27:58 PM
huh?  china saying this is just an asian regional issue when all the world's ships pass through these commercial sea lanes?  it is as if it has a moral ground for citing principles (that favors it, anyway) if it continues to flex its muscles as asia's lord of 'charing'. 

bwahahaha. "asia's lord of charing".

Quote from: Raquelproud boholana on April 26, 2011, 09:00:40 PM
Yes tinuod ni kay tan awa ko wa koy absent ug novena sa Inahan sa Kanunay'ng Panabang nga hatagan ko ug bana nga kabawo morosaryo gi grant jud nako akong simple wish nga mas labaw pa. Everytime mag idle akong bana or magwork permi ni siya magclutch ug rosaryuhan mag pray ug rosaryo ug diha jud ko ingtuo nga basta kinasing kasing jud atong panayuon diay ni Blessed Virgin Mary i grant gyud niya. Gi grant sa blessed virgin tong gipaampo sa imong friend Bran kay kinasing kasing pud to ilang pag ampo dili tungod kay sila gibayran nga ipanovena kundi naglantaw pud sila sa kaayuhan sa imong friend.

That he is, Raquel, he is a very good man-- im referring to my friend Job. He and I were both choir singers when we were still core medical students back in 2008-2009, very very good ni siya. I say i have never met anyone so good like him , kai even when people say things to him or if bad things happen, he always prays.

I mean it when I say that he is a man of prayer.

My Easter was very enjoyable. We attended the 11:30 morning Mass at St. Mary of the Lake Roman Catholic Church by Uptown, Chicago. It was so beautiful because the sun was shining so radiantly, when we were walking toward the Church grounds, heralded by the Church Bells playing and permeating the city air.

My beloved and I then went to celebrate Easter by driving to the suburbs north of Chicago. Beautiful.

Talking to my parents, siblings, and my relatives on the phone brought joy as well.

Hi folks,

How was your Easter Holiday? What did you do for Easter?

my dream is to live a good life and to be more understanding with people.

This verse is heart touching. It is so hard to give thanks sometimes when I am going through tough situations or a loss of a friend and family member. This can be hard. But as hard as it is, we should give thanks.

I am reminded that all things occur because of God's Will. Praise be to God!