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Re: Reasons NOT To Vote for Noynoy Aquino as the Next President
« Reply #300 on: January 13, 2010, 03:42:08 AM »
o tan awa, this guy surikibot( u reli lived up to you name) nag paila lang gyod nga wa ni kinaadman, some sector were asking my opinion unya muingon dayon ka nga binayran ko. nag nominate naba ko ug candidato? i was just trying to express my opinion in this forum. kung ayaw na ninyo sa mga  opinion ko, noprobs, ill stop doing it after this one. ano bang mapapala ko dito, baka mahawa paako sa mga parochial mentality ng mga ibang members dito. sayang i am a bol anon by birth pero tama na nga sigurong diri nlng ko sa manila.GOODBYE!

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« Reply #301 on: January 13, 2010, 01:13:43 PM »
ka mabaw ninyo'g kigol uy....bwahahaha

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Re: Reasons NOT To Vote for Noynoy Aquino as the Next President
« Reply #302 on: January 14, 2010, 08:50:57 AM »
1B plus na ang nagasto ni villar sa election! Jesus, unsaon kaha ani pagbawi no? delicado mangawat ning tawhana

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Re: Reasons NOT To Vote for Noynoy Aquino as the Next President
« Reply #303 on: January 14, 2010, 08:53:00 AM »
1B plus na ang nagasto ni villar sa election! Jesus, unsaon kaha ani pagbawi no? delicado mangawat ning tawhana

aw... naa man tay itawag ug IMF ug world bank.

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« Reply #304 on: January 14, 2010, 08:54:18 AM »
mao, ma imperno najud ta ani Jas!

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« Reply #305 on: January 14, 2010, 08:58:30 AM »
mao, ma imperno najud ta ani Jas!

 Way kasog inperno, basta naa lang giahpoy TUBAG BOHOL.....hehehehe...

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« Reply #306 on: January 14, 2010, 09:00:34 AM »
Way kasog inperno, basta naa lang giahpoy TUBAG BOHOL.....hehehehe...

Bwahahaha... cool! 8)

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« Reply #307 on: January 14, 2010, 09:02:40 AM »
hehehhee! tama ka Nyur. mo una kana kaha didtos imperno. regards mis tanan ha!

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Re: Reasons NOT To Vote for Noynoy Aquino as the Next President
« Reply #308 on: January 14, 2010, 09:06:06 AM »
1B plus na ang nagasto ni villar sa election! Jesus, unsaon kaha ani pagbawi no? delicado mangawat ning tawhana
hahaha.. grabehag kwarta ni si villar gauros-uros.. way undang advertisement..

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« Reply #309 on: January 14, 2010, 09:13:17 AM »
Ayaw lang mo kaguol sa billions nga magasto ni Villar kay "chicken feed" ra na niya....win or lose, magpabilin gihapon siya nga billionaire.



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Re: Reasons NOT To Vote for Noynoy Aquino as the Next President
« Reply #310 on: January 14, 2010, 09:17:30 AM »
tinuod ba gyod kahang gikan ni sa pobre si villar? kay grabeha pod iyahang pag-asenso oi.. unsa kahay sekreto ani ha..

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« Reply #311 on: January 14, 2010, 09:19:10 AM »
sipag at tyaga?...hahaha
bright boy man sab ni's Villar.

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« Reply #312 on: January 14, 2010, 09:25:52 AM »
Mura'g ang asawa ni Villar mau'y dato nang daan ang pamilya..

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« Reply #313 on: January 14, 2010, 11:33:17 AM »
sa dihang naglisud si villar sa ijang negosyo. ijang gi panga sawa ang pamilyang kwartahan sa paranaque si cynthia aguilar (bahalag bijag nawong basta kwartahan, hehehe!) apan sa pagka karon naglisud napud ang mga negosyo sa mga aguilar, tagilid, like the starmall, dako kaajog utang sa mga bangko ang aguilars, ug wako masajop 13B+

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Re: Reasons NOT To Vote for Noynoy Aquino as the Next President
« Reply #314 on: January 14, 2010, 12:37:53 PM »
Noynoy will be the next president. He will follow the political trend of Arroyo. Anak sa presidente, kon modagan ang anak pagka president ,siguro nga modaog .

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Re: Reasons NOT To Vote for Noynoy Aquino as the Next President
« Reply #315 on: January 15, 2010, 04:23:06 AM »
nonoy ???way alamag, ngalan lang nag dako...big name no brain...

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« Reply #316 on: January 15, 2010, 04:49:11 AM »
nonoy ???way alamag, ngalan lang nag dako...big name no brain...

 Bai Arki, kong si Nonoy way alamag, pero si Noy Noy duna..hehehehe... Bitaw bai, kong atong
 pilian silang upat, Estrada, Teodoro, Villar ug Noy Noy Aquino, sa nilang upat si Noy Noy ang nag
 dala ug magic nga maka pa RALLY sa katawhan nga nangitag kausaban sa atong pang Goberno.
 
 Dia baya kos trabaho ha, wako sa Parlor....hehehehe....

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Re: Reasons NOT To Vote for Noynoy Aquino as the Next President
« Reply #317 on: January 15, 2010, 04:59:59 AM »
aw sayop diay ko hehehehe okay ko sa amahan ni nonoy benigno aquino saludo ko nianan pero sa anak noy noy copycat lang sundog sundog lang sa amahan...walay abilidad zero in congress and senate way nahibaw-an pero lihiro sa buzz interview ni abunda hehehe. maajo, nyurrr kay basig ma buzz ka niana hehehe...gimmick lang na bai pero tan aw nako ni noynoy mura naman si kris mo storya tsikadura maglaway laway hehehe... pero si teodoro maayong alternate new face sa politics   pero tuta pud ni GMA... while si Villar hadlok sad ko basig mosamot ug trilliyonaryo from bilyonaryo hehehe...ambot, basta mao lang gihapon ang sistema sa atong gobyerno walay kausaban atong panginabuhi...mga ppolitiko ray moasenso....puyra sa maigo...

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« Reply #318 on: January 15, 2010, 05:09:27 AM »
Bai Arki, mao ni ako plano. PLANO rani ha....Kong mudaog sila Noy Noy ug Mar, akong tawgon si Cris Aquino muhanghyo ko niya nga iyang pa step downnon si Noy Noy aron si mar Roxas na ang
atong Presidente.....PLANO ra baya niha? Wapay sigurog matinuod...hehehehe...

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« Reply #319 on: January 15, 2010, 08:30:04 AM »
mas labing maajo...hehehe si mar roxas ok ra sija compare ni noynoy mao man gani akong gusto...

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« Reply #320 on: January 15, 2010, 11:34:15 AM »
mas labing maajo...hehehe si mar roxas ok ra sija compare ni noynoy mao man gani akong gusto...

Na, kanis Mar Roxas raba kono ang nagda sa down sa pre-need industry sa Pilipinas like CAP and PAcific Plans.

Sa matag kandidato may pros and cons, wa juy perfect nga kandidato.

Kung ako dili pud ko ni Noynoy kay:
1. sa ijahang stand sa RH Bill
2. sa ijahang pagkahilaw sa pagpadagan sa atong nasudnong Pilipinhon
3. he is too innocent, basin baja ug makalitan inig lingkod na, mao ra ba nay lisod, e.g. the demise of former Pres. Estrada
4. he was at first hesitant to run for presidency, maybe he is not at all too resolve to become the President and run the country
5. he has not proved that much based on performance as a senator (my own point of view)

Basta, hehehehehe. After all, pare pareho ra ta ug gipangita sa usa ka kandidato, mao ang makahaw-as sa atong kalisdanan. Unta, maajo na ta karong eleksiyon.

Asa ra ba diay tong thread nga makit-an kung registered voter ta? Ahong icheck kung na update na ba ug naapil na ang ahong pangan. Thank you. Miss being here in TB.

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« Reply #321 on: January 15, 2010, 11:37:29 AM »

Asa ra ba diay tong thread nga makit-an kung registered voter ta? Ahong icheck kung na update na ba ug naapil na ang ahong pangan. Thank you. Miss being here in TB.

i-google, tigs. kung wa to maapil og kahanaw sa giingon ni Mike, naa pa to.

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« Reply #322 on: January 15, 2010, 11:40:10 AM »
i-google, tigs. kung wa to maapil og kahanaw sa giingon ni Mike, naa pa to.

Salamat Bay Glace. Maajo kay mipatim-aw na ka ug balik. Ag si Nethla ba? Murag nagsunod ra ba ko atong hadumana sa imong kinabuhi. ;D

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« Reply #323 on: January 15, 2010, 12:06:18 PM »
Salamat Bay Glace. Maajo kay mipatim-aw na ka ug balik. Ag si Nethla ba? Murag nagsunod ra ba ko atong hadumana sa imong kinabuhi. ;D

ayay!!! gipahinumduman ko da. hahaha. sus, kita ra ba jud kos iyang pics di pa lang dugay, bay tigs, perting panghimisong ra ba jud tawn. hahayzzz!!! hahahahaha

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« Reply #324 on: January 15, 2010, 01:03:19 PM »
ayay!!! gipahinumduman ko da. hahaha. sus, kita ra ba jud kos iyang pics di pa lang dugay, bay tigs, perting panghimisong ra ba jud tawn. hahayzzz!!! hahahahaha

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« Reply #325 on: January 15, 2010, 02:46:04 PM »
nang himisong seksi tan-awon. mura bag kuan ijang nawong.......rayt? hehehe!

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« Reply #326 on: January 15, 2010, 03:14:36 PM »
ayay!!! gipahinumduman ko da. hahaha. sus, kita ra ba jud kos iyang pics di pa lang dugay, bay tigs, perting panghimisong ra ba jud tawn. hahayzzz!!! hahahahaha

Hahahahaha. Mao ba bay glace? Sumpaje na tong injong kagahapon Bay kay lamion na ra ba tong imohang gibijaan nga bahin.

Dia ra bay duha ka buok nilalang naukay sa imohang giingon nga HIMISONG,

Bai Glacier, asa guy himisong?

nang himisong seksi tan-awon. mura bag kuan ijang nawong.......rayt? hehehe!


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« Reply #327 on: January 15, 2010, 03:34:40 PM »
Ngano? "not to vote NoyNoy for president," Do not underestimate him.
Sa tanan nga presidentiables, siya ang nanguna sa survey.

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« Reply #328 on: January 16, 2010, 09:59:45 AM »
noynoy- lesser evil among them all

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« Reply #329 on: January 16, 2010, 10:10:35 AM »
noynoy- lesser evil among them all

sa mga winable candidates....agree ko...

pero para nako...Dick Gordon...proven na nga naay agi....look at SBMA...moserbisyo gyud, tan-awa ang record niya sa Phil. Red Cross, 40 years in service nga way sweldo......brigth boy sab.
Siya mauy tinuod-anay gyud nga mo serbisyo sa katawhan....problema lang sa mga tawo kay kon kinsa ang sikat mauy botohan.....way raro...

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Re: Reasons NOT To Vote for Noynoy Aquino as the Next President
« Reply #330 on: January 16, 2010, 10:45:36 AM »
tinuod pod ka jas! daghan bitaw natabang ni si gordon. nindot gyod pagkada niya ang subic, hinlo ug orderly. dghan pod siyang proyekto sa edukasyon!

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« Reply #331 on: January 17, 2010, 11:44:44 PM »
noynoy- lesser evil among them all

Nonoy autistic man na siya tanawa ang binarogan sa anak ni kris na abnormal di ba parehas ra ug binarugan sila. unya close sad sial ibig sabihin mag ka sinabot sila kay parehas ug sakit..... Ngano mo ingon man ka pre na lesser evil si nonoy kamag-anak mo?

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« Reply #332 on: January 18, 2010, 08:47:43 AM »
ang luoy nga tawo kadtong mo hukom sa physical nga aspito sa kinabuhi. kining mga klaseaha sa pang hunahuna luoy kay murag binugo ang ilang panan-aw(sorry sa matamaan. batobato sa langit ang tammay huwag magalit.)  :-[ unsaon man nato paguswag kong ang atong mintalidad murag usa ka bata ug judgemental? okay si Gordon ang problema lang esnabiro mao nga dili sikat. kang noynoy ko kay ngano? gi kapoy nakos mga kuyaw apan kuyaw mangawat! baroganan ug pagkatawo nga dili k******n ang angayan botohan ron panahuna!

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« Reply #333 on: January 18, 2010, 09:03:10 AM »
Ngano? "not to vote NoyNoy for president," Do not underestimate him.
Sa tanan nga presidentiables, siya ang nanguna sa survey.

Dili na ra ba ni applicable kono matud pa ni Noynoy Sir FDaray. Kay ang survey kono mapalit. Karon ra pud ni micomment si Noynoy nga nagtungod na sila ni Villar sa survey pero niadto wa jamoy comment nga sija pay nanguna. ;D

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« Reply #334 on: January 18, 2010, 09:09:42 AM »
Dili na ra ba ni applicable kono matud pa ni Noynoy Sir FDaray. Kay ang survey kono mapalit. Karon ra pud ni micomment si Noynoy nga nagtungod na sila ni Villar sa survey pero niadto wa jamoy comment nga sija pay nanguna. ;D

PRE, KONG ATONG TUGKARON ANG SURVEY TYPE O STYLE NGA GIHIMO NI VILLAR PANGPANGILAD ANG ILANG GIHIMO O IBA ANG MAHIMONG RESULTA. A SURVEY FOR SELF YUN. WELL, AT LEAST SA TINUOD THERES STILL HOPE A RIHGTEOUS MAN WILL GOVERN THE ISLANDS!

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« Reply #335 on: January 18, 2010, 09:26:31 AM »
PRE, KONG ATONG TUGKARON ANG SURVEY TYPE O STYLE NGA GIHIMO NI VILLAR PANGPANGILAD ANG ILANG GIHIMO O IBA ANG MAHIMONG RESULTA. A SURVEY FOR SELF YUN. WELL, AT LEAST SA TINUOD THERES STILL HOPE A RIHGTEOUS MAN WILL GOVERN THE ISLANDS!

Mao pud ni ahong pagtuo Bay Buds. The media is controlled by money in some other ways. One time, diay kagubot sa usa ka tunghaan nga gipanag-ija sa usa ka inila ug datu nga tawo. Ako mismo nakasaksi nga dihay mga mediamen pero pag abot sa evening news o mga news break, wa jud tawon jamoy nakita.

Villar has all the means nga "macontrol" ang mga survey.

I learned that he does not have a credible corruption history (aside from C-5 extension project). Wa pa moabot ang bugnong lugaynon o bisan ang campaign period pero wa na kanta na ta ug, "NAKALIGO KA NA BA SA DAGAT NG BASURA, NAGPASKO KA NA BA SA GITNA NGA KALSADA......." ;D Cheers!

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« Reply #336 on: January 18, 2010, 10:51:46 AM »
agree ko nimo ana pre kay kana si buwadsanga murag pabilib na siya na bright na tawhana.....

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« Reply #337 on: January 18, 2010, 01:40:55 PM »
usbon ko, dili angayan nga physical husgahan ang tawo. mo ingon ka nga authestic. dili ba usa ka binata nga akusasyo ni? ajaw ingna nga nga ang ateneo mag pa graduate ug tawong authestic? pareho ka/kamo sa mga judeo nga nagbiay-biay ni Kristo! di ba? hehehe! ang gikinahanglan ron sa atong nasud, kaligdong ug dunay baruganan nga pagka leader ug dili k******n.

bahin kang villar, ang C5 ijang gi construct nga maagian ang ijang negosyong realty(midato gikan sa kwarta sa gobyerno), mga bata dili pa tawon botante, gigamit na sa elecion propaganda, kinadaghanang commercials sa tanang candidato, 1B+ na ang nagasto(asa man itawon nija ni bawion?). suma total mao niy usa ka tawo nga mapahimudsanon ug toso. bantay mo! 

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« Reply #338 on: January 18, 2010, 01:46:09 PM »
bahin kang villar, ang C5 ijang gi construct nga maagian ang ijang negosyong realty(midato gikan sa kwarta sa gobyerno), mga bata dili pa tawon botante, gigamit na sa elecion propaganda, kinadaghanang commercials sa tanang candidato, 1B+ na ang nagasto(asa man itawon nija ni bawion?). suma total mao niy usa ka tawo nga mapahimudsanon ug toso. bantay mo! 

Tinuod ka ani Bay Buds? Asa man ni nge report? Oi, ug mauhon na nag expect jud ni si Villar ug dako nga ROI (Return on Investment). Sa negosyo gud dili ka motake sa risk kung and rewards (in the form of ROI) dili ana kadaku pud.

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« Reply #339 on: January 18, 2010, 01:50:51 PM »

Labay ra ko dinhe.  Bibo man diay japon.  Nagpromise na ko ni Lord na di nako mo apil ani nga diskusyon sa 2010.   ;D

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« Reply #340 on: January 18, 2010, 01:51:48 PM »
hakog sa gahum. bai tigs, his wifes family(aguilar) business garabee ka tagilid ron! 13B+ ang utang. Jesus, ug maoy mo daug ewan ko lang ug unsaon nila ni pag maniobra. mao nga ningkamot jud aron maka lusot sa dakong utang sa ijang ugangan. bantay jud tang tanan!

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« Reply #341 on: January 18, 2010, 01:53:56 PM »
Naa kay mga related links ani bay Buwad?  Interesting neng imong mga buzz da.  Mobasa lang ko. Lisod mag "judge"  ug way tay proyba.

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hakog sa gahum. bai tigs, his wifes family(aguilar) business garabee ka tagilid ron! 13B+ ang utang. Jesus, ug maoy mo daug ewan ko lang ug unsaon nila ni pag maniobra. mao nga ningkamot jud aron maka lusot sa dakong utang sa ijang ugangan. bantay jud tang tanan!

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« Reply #342 on: January 18, 2010, 01:57:14 PM »

Mura ra bag nibali ang pulso karon.  Murag hinay hinay nisaka ang rating ni Villar.  Hala. 

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« Reply #343 on: January 18, 2010, 02:02:33 PM »
Mao seguro ney naka Ps 1B+ nga ads.  Record breaking ni nga gasto.  ???
+-----------------

Villar asks:
Nakaligo ka na ba sa dagat ng basura
nagpasko ka na ba sa gitna ng kalsada
'yan ang tanong namin
tunay ka bang isa sa amin

Noynoy answers:
Di pa kami naliligo sa dagat ng basura
at ang aming pasko ay sa hacienda luisita
yan ang sagot namin
eh kasi rich angkan namin.

Gibo answers:
Sa bath tub lang at hindi sa dagat ng basura
nap pasko di sa kelye kundi dun sa amerika
at least umaamin
na super-blessed pamilya namin.

Brother Eddie answers:
Lalakarin ni Hesus ang dagat ng basura
sa pasko papakanin mga tao sa kalsada
promise nya yan sa akin
at sa flock ko rin na 5M

Bayani answers for Gordon:
Bakit nga ba mayroong dagat ng basura
Pag pasko tambak kasi mga yan sa kalsada
lahat yan dahil sa atin
tayo ang dapat na sisihin.

And finally Jamby answers:
Si Manny Villar ay dapat lamang ibasura
Dinoble nya ang budget sa iisang kalsada
yan and alam namin
bakit ba ayaw nyang aminin.


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« Reply #344 on: January 18, 2010, 02:08:52 PM »
Hahahahaha. Good post Bay Beds, nakatawa ko aning imong post.

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« Reply #345 on: January 18, 2010, 02:12:11 PM »

Gihagu-an na nako ug type ba bai Tigs. Hehe.  Naka paste as jpeg na sa email na gi circulate last week.

Hahahahaha. Good post Bay Beds, nakatawa ko aning imong post.

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« Reply #346 on: January 18, 2010, 02:17:00 PM »
Gihagu-an na nako ug type ba bai Tigs. Hehe.  Naka paste as jpeg na sa email na gi circulate last week.


Wa masayang imohang hagu Bay Beds kay gigitik ko ug bumasa sa post nimo. Maajo pagkagama ning emaila. Hahahahaha. ;D

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« Reply #347 on: January 18, 2010, 02:19:16 PM »

Haha.  Sige bay Tigs kay manginabuhi sa ko. hehe 

Wa masayang imohang hagu Bay Beds kay gigitik ko ug bumasa sa post nimo. Maajo pagkagama ning emaila. Hahahahaha. ;D

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« Reply #348 on: January 18, 2010, 02:19:26 PM »
duna pinost nako tu sauna Beds. sagdi kay akong ukajon

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« Reply #349 on: January 18, 2010, 02:25:44 PM »
Ah okay bai Buwad.  Salamat daan.

duna pinost nako tu sauna Beds. sagdi kay akong ukajon

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« Reply #350 on: January 18, 2010, 02:35:49 PM »
dia na bi Beds kita kona:

Home  News  Today's Features  Bleeding in Debt
Bleeding in Debt     
Written by Lala Rimando     
Monday, 22 July 2002 
After the Villars’ enviable success in low-cost housing, their companies are now having trouble with creditors.

WHAT A CONTRAST—SPOUSES SEN. MANUEL VILLAR and Las Piñas Rep. Cynthia Villar topped the list of richest legislators in the Senate and the House, but companies associated with them are bleeding in debt.

 
In their combined Statement of Assets and Liabilities as of yearend 2001, the Villars have declared assets amounting to P405.5 million, of which P401 million is contributed by investments in stocks and properties. Comparing this with their SAL less than six months earlier when their assets were worth P331.5 million, it means that their investments grew by about P74 million, 22.3 percent.

Of the five companies stated in their SAL, Fine Properties is the majority owner of the beleaguered low-cost housing company C&P Homes. In 1999, C&P defaulted on its loans totaling more than P10 billion. The funds were used in buying more raw lands during the heyday of property development before the financial crisis in 1997.

Caught holding the bag were creditor banks, and institutional and small investors that availed themselves of its debt papers. None of the other four companies listed in the SAL could have been profitable. They are in real estate businesses, and the industry is in a glut now.

Congresswoman Villar was quoted as attributing the P74 million increase in assets to dividends declared by one of their companies.

Senator Villar, described as the brown tycoon with a rags-to-riches life story, made his fortune when his gamble on the lowcost housing units—then an untapped market of the big property developers—paid off. His buyers were mainly overseas workers who wanted to invest their hardearned money on a house and lot. His housing units went like hotcakes. So successful was his venture that he earned his first million at age 26. Eventually, other developers followed suit.

In a quest to maintain its market share, C&P Homes reportedly benefited from the wholesale loan proceeds from the Unified Lending Home Program, former President Ramos’ vehicle to jumpstart his administration’s housing program. Because developers milked the government’s coffers allotted for housing projects, the National Home Mortgage and Financing Corp. ended up bankrupt with more than P40 billion in uncollectible loans, while Pag-IBIG Fund, which assumed some of these bad loans, is reeling from the effects of that bailout.

Bankrupt Manuela
While the link between the Villars and C&P Homes is certain, their link with another company beset with debt problems, the Manuela Corp., cannot be traced, at least on paper. Senator Villar has denied repeatedly that he has a controlling interest in Manuela.

Manuela was put up by Doña Manuela Aguilar Riguera, the grandmother of Congresswoman Villar. Her brother Rosalino Riguera, now mayor of Las Piñas, is currently the chairman of the corporation. It operates two malls—Starmall in Shaw Blvd. and Manuela Metropolis Mall in Alabang. There is talk that sometime in 1998, when Joseph Ejercito Estrada had just assumed the presidency, a syndicated loan totaling more than P3 billion coming, mainly from the Social Security System (SSS) and Government Service Insurance System (GSIS), was allegedly being arranged for Villar, then Speaker of the House. According to a former top SSS official, the proceeds were supposed to be infused into the already ailing Manuela Corp. The loan reportedly was not released after word about it was leaked to the media.

NEWSBREAK learned that management officials of C&P Homes who are associated with the Villars were actively involved during the five-year negotiation with a consortium of banks for a restructuring loan program for Manuela Corp. Sulficio Tagud, C&P’s chairman until his retirement a few months ago, and Jerry Navarette, C&P’s president, have been Manuela’s representatives at the negotiation, according to bankers who took part in it.

Starmall (previously named Manuela) and Manuela Metropolis Mall in Alabang were put up as collateral for the loans. The loans were secured by a mortgage trust indenture, which pools the assets to be used as collateral for a company’s debts. The two malls apparently represent 85 percent of the company’s total assets.

Manuela’s six creditor banks initiated foreclosure proceedings on the two malls after no agreement was reached on the loan restructuring.

Manuela’s loans, which had a principal amount of P1.3 billion before the company defaulted five years ago, have now climbed to P3.3 billion owing to accumulated interest and penalty charges.

As a result, the banks now conclude that the company is bankrupt. They also believe that the company cannot be a going concern as long as it is saddled with debts.

The consortium has calculated the company’s total liabilities to be about P6.8 billion. Manuela claims P4.87 billion only.

According to bank estimates, the company assets have a market value of not more than P4.23 billion, a far cry from Manuela’s estimate of P12.43 billion as of 2001. The consortium, led by the Bank of the Philippine Islands, calls Manuela’s valuation “highly speculative” because of the continuing slump in retail industry.

The consortium says that Manuela doesn’t have enough assets to cover its liabilities.

The consortium also questioned the veracity of Manuela’s reported interest expense. It has reportedly been understated for the past years, thus bloating the company’s net income by about P300 million.

Manuela’s interim financial statement as of Dec. 31, 2001, reflects a net loss of only P52 million, deliberately excluding interest expenses of about P332.8 million, the consortium claims. The complaints submitted by the consortium to the court reads “exposure to its creditors is far beyond its capacity to pay, especially considering that in the past three years, gross revenues hovered only around P234 million.”

Inflated Assets
Inflating the value of assets was noted to be common among the companies associated with the Villars.

In C&P’s case, for example, market values of the housing properties being surrendered to pay the small investors were more expensive by over P10,000 per square meter. This arrangement is still sluggishly moving three years after C&P defaulted.

Pricing, too, was a sticky point when the Ayalas were contemplating to acquire a share in C&P sometime in 1998. Ayala eventually gave up.

In the case of Manuela, the negotiations for the loan restructuring dragged for five years also partly because they couldn’t agree on the pricing of their assets.

Manuela presented a restructuring package that involved stretching the maturities of its loans up to 15 years. The bank consortium rejected it. “Manuela,” they said, “is unlikely to make enough money to pay up over the next 10 years, because the developer’s insolvency is irreversible. Therefore, rehabilitation is not realistically feasible.”

Manuela needs gross revenues of P2.04 billion in order to pay principal and interest alone to its creditors. For the past three years, Manuela’s revenues hovered around P230 million only.

The loans were used to finance the construction of the two malls, which were struck with physical restraints. Starmall, for instance, saw consumer traffic deteriorate during the construction of the Edsa-Shaw Boulevard flyover and the Metro Rail Transit (MRT) and has barely recovered since.

Adding to their woes, the two malls appeared to be confused about their target markets.

The court recently assigned a receivership committee to decide on how the debts will be addressed. In that may lie the fate of the two malls.

 
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« Reply #351 on: January 18, 2010, 03:03:59 PM »
Si Noynoy ang pinaka least corrupt:
Way asawa.
Anak mayanan.
Di babaero,

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« Reply #352 on: January 18, 2010, 04:08:46 PM »
 
buwadsanga pangita sa ug ibedensya na ingana si villar ka hugaw? Sa balita ra man na nimo nakuha. Puno lang ka sa intriga pareha lang mo ni im4change....Taga banko ka? naa ka sa loan  section kay nka kibaw ka na 13B ilahang utang? Jams-jams lang ka....

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« Reply #353 on: January 19, 2010, 10:29:33 AM »

buwadsanga pangita sa ug ibedensya na ingana si villar ka hugaw? Sa balita ra man na nimo nakuha. Puno lang ka sa intriga pareha lang mo ni im4change....Taga banko ka? naa ka sa loan  section kay nka kibaw ka na 13B ilahang utang? Jams-jams lang ka....

it's your burden to look for evidence not mine because villar is not my type for a president.

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« Reply #354 on: January 19, 2010, 10:47:57 AM »
well, here's another one sipag at taga (C5) issue:

Villar told to return P6.2-B to gov't due to C-5 anomaly
ABS-CBN - Tuesday, January 19SendIM StoryPrint.
Villar told to return P6.2-B to gov't due to C-5 anomaly
 NP: Senate report seeks to damage Villar's poll campaign

MANILA, Philippines - The Senate Committee of the Whole has ordered Nacionalista Party (NP) standard-bearer Senator Manny Villar to return P6.2 billion pesos which the government spent on the allegedly anomalous C-5 Road Extension Project.

The Committee of the Whole has released a resolution stating that Villar's conduct in connection with the project was improper and unethical since his companies benefitted from the project.

The P6.2 billion includes the realigned P4.28 billion pesos for the extension project, the P1.8 billion spent for the original project but was wasted due to the realignment, and the reportedly overpriced payment of P141 million in right-of-way for Villar's real estate companies.

"If there was any profit made, then, since the damage was done to the government because of this overpricing and it profited him, we require that there must be a restitution to the government," Senate President Juan Ponce Enrile told ANC on Monday.

Twelve senators signed the Committee of the Whole report. They are:

Sen. Edgardo Angara; Sen. Benigno Aquino III; Sen. Rodolfo Biazon; Sen. Juan Ponce Enrile;

Sen. Francis Escudero; Sen. Jinggoy Estrada; Sen. Richard Gordon; Sen. Jamby Madrigal;

Sen. Panfilo Lacson; Sen. Francis Pangilinan; Sen. Manuel Roxas II; Sen. Juan Miguel Zubiri

Estrada and Pangilinan had signed a resolution in November last year clearing Villar of any wrongdoing in the C-5 Road Extension project.

"This is the finding of the committee which will be submitted to plenary for consideration. Now I do not know whether the votes will be to sustain the recommendation of the committee," Enrile said.

Villar was investigated by the committee regarding claims he diverted the road project to benefit his real estate businesses. He has repeatedly denied the allegations.

NP: 'It's about politics, not truth'

In a press statement, the NP branded the Senate Committee of the Whole report as "clearly about politics and the presidency," and is "definitely not about truth."

"The conclusions reached in the report were not consistent with the transcripts of the proceeding nor the evidence that were presented. It was all about the headlines that it would grab and the sound bites they could produce in this week of data gathering for the next nationwide survey and at the time when Senator Villar has closed the gap between him and his closest rival," the NP said.

Villar has cut the lead of presidential survey frontrunner Noynoy Aquino from 19 percentage points in early December 2009 to 11 percentage points in the December 27-28, 2009 survey of the Social Weather Stations commissioned by Villar's camp.

The NP said the whole investigation was intended to "destroy the reputation and good name" of Villar.

"The recommendations reached in the report are a stretch to say the least and preposterous at most. The whole procedure - from its accuser/prosecutor/judge all rolled into one all the way to the partiality of its jurors - would not stand in any court of law," the NP said.

The NP added that "with the report, we sense the desperation in the rivals of Senator Villar for the presidency and their fear of a truly independent leader who will fight for the poor in our beloved country."

LP wants report presented in plenary

Meantime, in a statement, the LP said it has taken an official party stand on the Senate Committee of the Whole report on Villar's ethics case.

"It is the decision of the [LP] Party Leadership that regardless of whether we believe in the guilt or innocence of Senator Villar, at the very least the proponents of the report should be allowed to present their findings in the plenary. The Senators can vote either for or against the findings at the appropriate time," the LP said.

"As a member of the LP we will abide by the party decision and allow for the report to be presented in plenary," the LP said. -- with reports from Tony Velasquez, ANC; Lynda Jumilla, ABS-CBN News


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« Reply #355 on: January 19, 2010, 01:21:12 PM »
it's your burden to look for evidence not mine because villar is not my type for a president.


Mao na diha.... Ayaw pataka ug mga sagbwag ug issue na  wala kay proweba na murag siguro ka naka loan si villar.... Anyway im not for villar. im for gibo.....

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« Reply #356 on: January 19, 2010, 01:39:32 PM »

Mao na diha.... Ayaw pataka ug mga sagbwag ug issue na  wala kay proweba na murag siguro ka naka loan si villar.... Anyway im not for villar. im for gibo.....
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« Reply #357 on: January 19, 2010, 01:53:09 PM »
sa dihang naglisud si villar sa ijang negosyo. ijang gi panga sawa ang pamilyang kwartahan sa paranaque si cynthia aguilar (bahalag bijag nawong basta kwartahan, hehehe!)  apan sa pagka karon naglisud napud ang mga negosyo sa mga aguilar, tagilid, like the starmall, dako kaajog utang sa mga bangko ang aguilars, ug wako masajop 13B+

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« Reply #358 on: January 19, 2010, 01:58:16 PM »

Puede ni epang block propaganda against Villar karong umaabot election.   

Translation:  I'm not for Villar neither for Noy.  :P

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« Reply #359 on: January 19, 2010, 03:16:57 PM »
Adto na lamang ko aning Bro Eddie Villanueva. Hahahahahaha.

Sige bi, naa bay istorya ani ni Bro. Edddie. ;D

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« Reply #360 on: January 19, 2010, 03:39:34 PM »
Adto na lamang ko aning Bro Eddie Villanueva. Hahahahahaha.

Sige bi, naa bay istorya ani ni Bro. Edddie. ;D

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« Reply #361 on: January 19, 2010, 03:46:30 PM »
Isaysay dayon, bai Tigs!

Wa ganing koy nahibaw-an Bay Bugs, ang aho lamang ba basin ug maistoryahan ni si Bro. Eddie naa pud ijahang issues. ;D

Trabaho sa ko dire, aron makasuweldo. ;D

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« Reply #362 on: January 22, 2010, 03:15:24 PM »
Hehe adto ka kang Bro bai Tigs.    ;D

PERO, ako lang kuyawan neng nidagan karon nga sa akong tan-aw way nahimo ug gapasinaw lang sa lingkuranan sulod sa ilang termino.  Dawlims ba.  Dawat limpyo. Di ba pud na sila ga usik usik lang sa atong buhis nga ga ibayad?   In short,  already started stealing and wasting peoples money in fine ways.  

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« Reply #363 on: January 22, 2010, 04:16:28 PM »
Wa ganing koy nahibaw-an Bay Bugs, ang aho lamang ba basin ug maistoryahan ni si Bro. Eddie naa pud ijahang issues. ;D

Trabaho sa ko dire, aron makasuweldo. ;D

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« Reply #364 on: January 26, 2010, 08:41:39 AM »
kinis villanueva ka ingon sija sa ijang kaugalingon nga sija mao ang messiah sa atong nasud! hahahahhahaha!

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« Reply #365 on: January 27, 2010, 11:28:35 AM »
just want to share this forward message frm my email (just click the link for more details)

Subject: The rumor is confirmed: Villar is Gloria's secret candidate!

The rumor is confirmed: Villar is Gloria’s secret candidate!
9 January 2010
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Manny Villar is unmasked by Lito Banayo, columnist for Malaya. Banayo said Villar is Gloria’s secret candidate – “Her” man <http://globalbalita.com/2010/01/07/her-man/> “I thought Gibo was Gloria’s standard bearer,” I told my Palace mole. “Gibo is just a decoy. Gloria picked Villar long before she picked up Gibo,” he replied. “Read Banayo’s column, the secret meetings he wrote about are true.” “Hmmm…But what about Gordon? He’s also Gloria’s boy, isn’t he?” I asked. “Yes, that’s why he is also running.” he replied. “But what chances does he have? He has no money, no organization, nothing!” “Who said he was funding and organizing his own campaign?” “You mean someone is doing it for him?” “Aren’t you surprised that all of a sudden he has money to spend on advertising and campaign sorties?” he pressed on. “But who would be crazy enough to finance a sure loser?” I argued. “Who said he was running to win?” he retorted. “Well then why is he running at all?” “He is running as an attack dog against Aquino.” “Attacking for whom, Gloria? Villar?” “Is there a difference between Gloria and Villar?” he asked. “Yes,” I replied. “Gloria has a mole on her face and Villar does not.” “And THAT is the only thing that sets them apart!”

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« Reply #366 on: January 27, 2010, 11:36:29 AM »
Pero..., si Noynoy kanunay nag-una sa bisan unsang survey.

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« Reply #367 on: January 27, 2010, 11:42:55 AM »
Latest Presidential Survey, 22 December 2009
BusinessWorld-SWS  Pre-Election Survey: Aquino (46%), Villar (27%) and Estrada (16%) lead Presidential race; Roxas (43%) and Legarda (32%) lead VP race; Santiago, Revilla, and Jinggoy Estrada lead Senatorial race

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« Reply #368 on: January 27, 2010, 12:37:34 PM »
Doubtful man ko nga Noynoy ako iboto kay there's something kulang pa sa mga achievement nija. Tsaka dili pa hinog sa panahon! Mas okey pa ko sa mga "transformers" ..

well let's wait and see!

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« Reply #369 on: January 27, 2010, 01:06:09 PM »
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D noynoy is not ready for president...kung muabot ang higayon nga ma presidente siya unya kudetahon sad sa mga military basig musinggit siya" mommy cory asa kana tabangi ko, gui-kudeta nako waaaaaaah" hehehe ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D wala rabay mutabang niya....its too early niya nga mang ambition...komo nga namatay iyang mommy cory naa na siyay courage nga mo lead sa country kay popular iyang mga ginikanan...prove your self first if unsa iyang capacity mo lead...basig mag usik usik nalang ta ani unya dili motiwas kay dili kabalo  kay way leadership...kung dili ma coup deta, basig ma-impeach...dili ouy mo resign siya kay dili kaagwanta sa problema sa pilipinas...way hanaw  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #370 on: January 27, 2010, 01:08:18 PM »
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« Reply #371 on: January 27, 2010, 01:11:36 PM »
Bitaw murag kulang pa ang achievements ni Noynoy...


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« Reply #372 on: January 27, 2010, 01:59:33 PM »
he has proven himself ..... he is not corruptable :)

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« Reply #373 on: January 28, 2010, 10:03:10 AM »
he has proven himself ..... he is not corruptable :)

I dont know bai Cast Nast murag bitaw pud inocente si Noynoy pero sa paglingkod niya sa malacanang nga guilibutan siya sa iyang mga so called adviser..sulod sa 6years naa nasad mo boto nga balita about corruption sa kang noynoy aquino administration...Look, tan awa si GMA murag virgin kaayo before siay napili pag presidente nga dili kunohay corrupt...Wala ray nagdugay left and right ang issue sa corruption sa iyang administration...Admire raba ko niya at first kay basig mo learn ug lesson si GMA sa mga past president nga mga corrupt pero utro diayng dako...I hope nga tinuod ang kang noynoy pero naa koy doubts niya kay guilibutan siay sa mga buaya nga mga politiko nga recycle lang guihapon sa uban nga membro sa cabinet or plitiko sa mga past president  nga mga paru paru balimbing bsag asa ang nektar adto sa tam-is nga bag-o humot nga politiko sama ni Noynoy Aquino...

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« Reply #374 on: January 28, 2010, 12:33:43 PM »
tama ka ark, pero ajaw ikompara ang mansanas sa saging. God is great and mercifull karon na siguro ang higayon sa atong nasud nga ma tul-id. I'm tired of galing and talino unja galing mangawat unja matalino mo mamutbut.

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« Reply #375 on: January 28, 2010, 01:03:38 PM »
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D noynoy is not ready for president...kung muabot ang higayon nga ma presidente siya unya kudetahon sad sa mga military basig musinggit siya" mommy cory asa kana tabangi ko, gui-kudeta nako waaaaaaah" hehehe ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D wala rabay mutabang niya....its too early niya nga mang ambition...komo nga namatay iyang mommy cory naa na siyay courage nga mo lead sa country kay popular iyang mga ginikanan...prove your self first if unsa iyang capacity mo lead...basig mag usik usik nalang ta ani unya dili motiwas kay dili kabalo  kay way leadership...kung dili ma coup deta, basig ma-impeach...dili ouy mo resign siya kay dili kaagwanta sa problema sa pilipinas...way hanaw  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Bay, comment lang, si Cory pud kay hesitant pud ra ba to nga modagan sauna as President. She was just a plain housewife when the clamor for her to run as President in place of her assasinated husband happened. But now, let us look back at it, she has become a great woman and the icon of the democracy we have now sa Pilipinas.

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« Reply #376 on: January 28, 2010, 01:07:40 PM »
I dont know bai Cast Nast murag bitaw pud inocente si Noynoy pero sa paglingkod niya sa malacanang nga guilibutan siya sa iyang mga so called adviser..sulod sa 6years naa nasad mo boto nga balita about corruption sa kang noynoy aquino administration...Look, tan awa si GMA murag virgin kaayo before siay napili pag presidente nga dili kunohay corrupt...Wala ray nagdugay left and right ang issue sa corruption sa iyang administration...Admire raba ko niya at first kay basig mo learn ug lesson si GMA sa mga past president nga mga corrupt pero utro diayng dako...I hope nga tinuod ang kang noynoy pero naa koy doubts niya kay guilibutan siay sa mga buaya nga mga politiko nga recycle lang guihapon sa uban nga membro sa cabinet or plitiko sa mga past president  nga mga paru paru balimbing bsag asa ang nektar adto sa tam-is nga bag-o humot nga politiko sama ni Noynoy Aquino...

Let us give the man the chance to prove usa ta mo speculate. Hinuon sa mga nahitabo sa atong panggobyerno, dili ko makabasow nga ing-ani na atong mentalidad, pero I believe naa pa gihapon paglaum. Dili ta mogive up. Its just like saying while looking at our tasks, DI NA NAHO KAYA, when in fact wa pa ta kasugod ug trabaho. ;D ;D

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« Reply #377 on: January 28, 2010, 01:07:59 PM »
anti life na c noynoy, nganung mg usik mn kog boto niya

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« Reply #378 on: January 28, 2010, 01:12:52 PM »
Let us give the man the chance to prove usa ta mo speculate. Hinuon sa mga nahitabo sa atong panggobyerno, dili ko makabasow nga ing-ani na atong mentalidad, pero I believe naa pa gihapon paglaum. Dili ta mogive up. Its just like saying while looking at our tasks, DI NA NAHO KAYA, when in fact wa pa ta kasugod ug trabaho. ;D ;D

Cheers peeps! ;D

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« Reply #379 on: January 28, 2010, 02:00:50 PM »
Let us give the man the chance to prove usa ta mo speculate. Hinuon sa mga nahitabo sa atong panggobyerno, dili ko makabasow nga ing-ani na atong mentalidad, pero I believe naa pa gihapon paglaum. Dili ta mogive up. Its just like saying while looking at our tasks, DI NA NAHO KAYA, when in fact wa pa ta kasugod ug trabaho. ;D ;D

Cheers peeps! ;D


 Infairness, Wala man pud sa kandidato ang problema pero naa sa atong sistema sa atong pang gobyerno...Mag unsa mana ang kandidato nga mahimo presidente if atong gobyerno mismo ang sistema adunay deperensa...Para nako nako kaayo tulubagon ang mga politiko nga buot mo lingkod sa kagamhanan sa atong gobyerno...daghan kaayog lutason nga problema..una i-change atong constitution pero kanang ubang article sa atong constitution...sa judisciary, electoral reform, sa two party system....economic reform....moral values sa mga politiko ug sa mga ordinaryong tawo....etc....grabe hugaw...vested interest atong constitution nga guihimo sa mga politikong recycle lang guihapon sa gahum nga dili gusto muundang ug gusto mangurakot....If kana bai, naay mga politikong silang tanan willing mo give-up sa ilang mga vested interst infavor sa mga katawhan nga sila mo lead sa pag usab sa atong sistema sa gobyerno nga i pattern jud sa uba nga nasud kanang perfecto sa atong demokrasya nga nasud....kanang mga tawo ang mabuhalan sa maong reporma dili ang mga politiko....kana basig mobalik akong paglaum sa atong gobyerno...   

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« Reply #380 on: January 28, 2010, 02:25:55 PM »


Kita gud Bay kalabot ta sa Sistema nga imohang giingon. Wa man gud nato pausoha ang culture of truthfulness and honesty. Kita man pud mismo mabasow, kay kana lamang sa eleksiyon nato, kung kita dili manawat sa ilahang isuhow ug atong botaran ang mga tawo nga angajan gajud aw ngano gud sieng dili ta molambo, di ba?

Ang culture of corruption gud nakakapjot na sa atong mga dugo mismo. Kintahay, makahibawo ta ug naay corrupt nga official, unsa may atong buhaton kung dili magpakabuta bungow ato nga badlungon lagi pero kutob ra man pud ta sa jawjaw. Wa may action nga kalabot sa atong jawjaw.

Sa atong tagsa tagsa ka lungsod ug barangay daghan ta ug nahibaw-an nga mga corrupt nga tawo ug mga corrupt nga binuhatan, pero asa man ron? Wa man jamo uroy napreso nga local official tungod kay dihay mireklamo sa corruption.

Ako Bay Arks, first time nahong mobotar sa national nga dagan nga lugaynon, ako manghinaut nga ahong boto unta makaambit ug makatampo sa kabag-ohan nga ahong lauman kung kinsa man ang mapili. Hinaut unta nga sa umaabot nga eleksiyon ato nang huna-hunaon ug maajo. Di ba?

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« Reply #381 on: January 28, 2010, 03:58:27 PM »
AHONG NAPULSOHAN NGA SI NOYNOY NA ANG SUNOD NGA PRESIDENTE. MAAYO JUD ANG GINOO!

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« Reply #382 on: January 28, 2010, 04:30:11 PM »
AHONG NAPULSOHAN NGA SI NOYNOY NA ANG SUNOD NGA PRESIDENTE. MAAYO JUD ANG GINOO!

Bay Buwad, shared sentiments ra ba mi Bay Bruno towards Ninoy.

anti life na c noynoy, nganung mg usik mn kog boto niya

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« Reply #383 on: January 29, 2010, 05:15:32 AM »
Kita gud Bay kalabot ta sa Sistema nga imohang giingon. Wa man gud nato pausoha ang culture of truthfulness and honesty. Kita man pud mismo mabasow, kay kana lamang sa eleksiyon nato, kung kita dili manawat sa ilahang isuhow ug atong botaran ang mga tawo nga angajan gajud aw ngano gud sieng dili ta molambo, di ba?

Ang culture of corruption gud nakakapjot na sa atong mga dugo mismo. Kintahay, makahibawo ta ug naay corrupt nga official, unsa may atong buhaton kung dili magpakabuta bungow ato nga badlungon lagi pero kutob ra man pud ta sa jawjaw. Wa may action nga kalabot sa atong jawjaw.

Sa atong tagsa tagsa ka lungsod ug barangay daghan ta ug nahibaw-an nga mga corrupt nga tawo ug mga corrupt nga binuhatan, pero asa man ron? Wa man jamo uroy napreso nga local official tungod kay dihay mireklamo sa corruption.

Ako Bay Arks, first time nahong mobotar sa national nga dagan nga lugaynon, ako manghinaut nga ahong boto unta makaambit ug makatampo sa kabag-ohan nga ahong lauman kung kinsa man ang mapili. Hinaut unta nga sa umaabot nga eleksiyon ato nang huna-hunaon ug maajo. Di ba?

Cheers! ;D ;D ;D


For short sa atong discussion,,, ang sistema sa atong gobyerno and ang moraledad sa tawo, batasan, moral values ug sobrang population sa tawo....maoy hinungdan ngano ang pilipinas gubot, walay asenso,hugaw...ug unsa pa.....Mao ni unta ang tutukan sa mga reformist nga mga politician...if tinuod sila for a change ...then adto akong boto nianang politikoha....ika 8 nga election akong na saksehan sukad sa akong pagbotar sa 1987 election walay kausaban .... nag ka grabe hinoun bsag sa arang mahala sa pamaliton karon ang exchange rate pud sa uwan uwan nagka taas pud ang balor....very shamefull...makakauwaw sa mga politiko!!!

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« Reply #384 on: January 29, 2010, 10:02:40 AM »
Bay Buwad, shared sentiments ra ba mi Bay Bruno towards Ninoy.


population control ang gusto nya hindi anti life o abortionist. which is kailangan natin to help in one way or the other eradicate poverty.

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« Reply #385 on: January 29, 2010, 10:34:23 AM »
population control ang gusto nya hindi anti life o abortionist. which is kailangan natin to help in one way or the other eradicate poverty.


BINGOOOO! korek!!!  makakita ki sa TV news nga arang kadaghan tawo sa Pinas, huna hunaa ang Pinas mas gamay pa sa Michigan pero mas daghan tawo...

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« Reply #386 on: January 29, 2010, 10:56:27 AM »

BINGOOOO! korek!!!  makakita ki sa TV news nga arang kadaghan tawo sa Pinas, huna hunaa ang Pinas mas gamay pa sa Michigan pero mas daghan tawo...

mao jud... wa pay trabaho, sige pa jud panganak!

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« Reply #387 on: January 29, 2010, 11:08:20 AM »
guys, do you think our country is over populated?

mao kaha ni ang problema sa atong nasud?

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« Reply #388 on: January 29, 2010, 11:19:26 AM »
isa sa mga problema yan sa tingin ko a major problem. overpopulation. parang isang pamilyang mahirap tapos ang daming anak! paano na yan? paano pampakain? paano pampaaral?  :-[

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« Reply #389 on: January 29, 2010, 11:26:53 AM »
guys, do you think our country is over populated?

mao kaha ni ang problema sa atong nasud?


# 1  Problema jud na Bugs. Tan awa ang India pwerteng daghanang tawo and they are very poor too!

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« Reply #390 on: January 29, 2010, 12:23:28 PM »

# 1  Problema jud na Bugs. Tan awa ang India pwerteng daghanang tawo and they are very poor too!

Unsaon man maam MDB nga atong national leader like the president and senators dili man sila mo position unsay ilang policy about sa population sa pilipinas...nagpaka bungol og buta ang mga leader....hadlok sila if maghisgot nang gani kaniadto like Pres. Ramos gui-challenge niya ang church tanang relihiyon sa pilipinas...? Ang resulta nag rally pud ang tanan mga pari ug mga simbahan mga tawong katoliko...guihimo nga pamolitika...huraton pud sa simbahan if naay policy ang gobyerno then no vote sila sa mga leader nga mo support sa pag control sa atong population....Mao nay nahitabo sa pilipinas arang daghanang tawo almost 100milyon na ang tawo...walay trabaho kay kulang over populated then ana na ang mga krimen manggawas, mga immoral kay mag ilog man ug bahandi,kwarta.,,prostitution  ,unsa pa nga mga illegal....

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« Reply #391 on: January 29, 2010, 12:50:37 PM »
Ang simbahan wa man magpugong siguro sa population control as a matter of fact it is advocating NATURAL FAMILY PLANNING. Sajop ni nga concept.

ANg gusto gud sa tawo sa Pilipinas icontrol ang population at the same magpalami gihapon ug kuan. In my point of view, dili mature kaajo ang pangisip sa mga tawo towards family planning, kay kung family planning ang hisgutan contraceptives dajon ang hunahunaan.

The church is against contraceptives kay it disrupt the natural being of everything. Example sa condom, kung maggamit ka ug condom you are preventing the "possible" fertilization of egg di ba? This in a way is anti life. WHy not let nature take its course?

Sa ahong bansay bansay ang gikahadlukan sa simbahan nga ang maong ontraceptives mahimo na unjang ordinary thing when it comes to love making when in the first place anti life na sija. Ikaduha, ang morality sa mga tawo moubos. There would come a time na ang culture is okay lang makipag sex sa bisan kinsa kinsang tawo basta naa lamay contraceptives total dili man mobabdos o makamabdos.

Ako di ko gusto nga mao ning culture mahimong sumbanan sa kinabuhi sa umaabot nahong mga anak ug kaapuhan. Di ko moyield sa popular call for "the other way of family planning through the use of contraceptives." Why not sacrifice 8 days of fertility? Di ba ta kahimo ani?

Sa sud sa 8 ka adlaw ang tulo ana (minimum) is gidugo ang baje, usahay pa gani abtan pa ug semana. Control lamang gud sa kaugalingon, abstinence pud.

Naa puy uban moingon nga "nganong ato pa man ning itago nga DAGHAN man ang nagubuhat na niini?" Unja, mura na ni sa istorya nga mokaon ka ug tae kay naa na puy nangaon ug tae? Cheers mga peeps. Just thinking aloud. ;D

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« Reply #392 on: January 29, 2010, 02:55:09 PM »
daghang tawo = good business, more income for the church  ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #393 on: January 29, 2010, 02:56:07 PM »
daghang tawo = good business, more income for the church  ;D ;D ;D

agree...people is power....bwahahahahah

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« Reply #394 on: January 29, 2010, 02:59:50 PM »
agree...people is power....bwahahahahah

korek again .... with more people there will be more kili-kili power  ;D bwahahahaha

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« Reply #395 on: January 29, 2010, 03:00:56 PM »
daghang tawo = good business, more income for the church  ;D ;D ;D

agree...people is power....bwahahahahah

Ang pangutana ani, kinsa kaha sa DAGHANG TAWO ang manimba ron, ug mosimba man pud ganing MOHALAD ba. Hehehehehe

Ang issue sa pagpugong sa simbahan sa RH Bill mao ang morality ug ang pangutana kung makaajo ba ang ang mao nga balaud.

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« Reply #396 on: January 29, 2010, 03:11:27 PM »
wa sab ko kasabot sa stand sa simbahan kon nganong kontra ni sila sa RH bill.....wala may nakasuwat sa bill nga nga promote ug abortion.......

i'm for RH Bill...kay aron ang mga programa sa gobyerno regarding sa family planning ug population cotrol nga nagkinahanglan ug igo nga budget mahatag na ug pagtagad......

karon gud, ang DH naa na man ana nga programa pero di kaayo ka penetrate tungod sa kakuwang sa budget ug di sab priority.

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« Reply #397 on: January 30, 2010, 11:44:46 PM »
daghang tawo = good business, more income for the church  ;D ;D ;D
daghang tawo = daghang KBL: kasal, bunjag, lubong
daghang KBL  = more income for the church
more income for the church = more pocket money for the collectors ;D                         

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« Reply #398 on: January 31, 2010, 06:41:40 AM »
guys, do you think our country is over populated?

mao kaha ni ang problema sa atong nasud?

population control ang gusto nya hindi anti life o abortionist. which is kailangan natin to help in one way or the other eradicate poverty.

# 1  Problema jud na Bugs. Tan awa ang India pwerteng daghanang tawo and they are very poor too!

In 2009, Japan has ranked 10th on the most populated countries in the World with approximately 127.614 millions of people living in japan currently. Statistics also ranked Japan in the top 40 in terms of population density with more than 310 people per square kilometer, especially in big cities. Tokyo obviously stands as the most populated city/metropolitan followed by Yokohama and Osaka on the rank.

pero datu man lagi sila.

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« Reply #399 on: January 31, 2010, 08:42:19 AM »

# 1  Problema jud na Bugs. Tan awa ang India pwerteng daghanang tawo and they are very poor too!

India and Brazil is beginning to emerge as economic giants.....and China overtakes Japan as second to US in terms of economy......kay ngano man...tungod sa population....daghan ang manpower.

Nganong nagkalisod man ang kadaghanang Pilipinhon?...tungod sa kahakog sa pila lang ka maniac nga nag kupot ug katungdanan sa goberno.....
Gikan na gud ta's maayong economiya nga gilantaw ug gidayeg sa silingang mga nasud sa Asia, nganong ang uban gibiyaan na man tag taga tuhod, likeThailand, Malaysia, Singapore. Ang Taiwan, kanus-a lang nagsungod ang ilang gobyerno, nganong dato man kaayo?

Ang Pilipinas sa 70's mauy gihimong modelo sa ASEAN pero karon...baho pas tae....tungod sa mga politikong ang ilang kaugalingon ra ang gihunahuna ug nagpaburot sa tiyan gigamit ang kwarta sa katawhan nga nagkamang na intawon sa tumang kawad-on..



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