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President Aquino to discuss Spratlys with China
« on: May 31, 2011, 03:20:38 AM »
MANILA (Update) — President Benigno Aquino III said he will discuss with the visiting Chinese defense minister how to prevent territorial spats in the South China Sea that can worsen into larger conflicts.

Aquino said Sunday he would raise the need for a binding accord aimed at preventing possible clashes at the disputed Spratly Islands and nearby waters in his upcoming meeting with Chinese Defense Minister Liang Guanglie.

Liang arrived Saturday for talks with his Philippine counterpart Voltaire Gazmin and to call on Aquino during his four-day visit.

China and the Philippines are among six Asian countries and territories that claim parts of the Spratlys and other South China Sea areas believed to be rich in oil and gas.

Asked if he will raise the territorial disputes in his meeting with Liang, Aquino said he would discuss how occasional spats can be avoided.

"The end point is hopefully these incidents could be reduced, otherwise a conflict might really happen," Aquino told reporters. "We should talk, instead of all these sorts of incidents occurring."

Over the weekend, the Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) confirmed that there was an intrusion in the country's airspace, but Malacañang could not confirm which country the fighter jets were coming from.

Deputy presidential spokesperson Abigail Valte said the government still has to verify where the two unidentified foreign fighter jets came from before taking an appropriate action.

"It was confirmed that there was an intrusion into the airspace but if we cannot identify which country these jets belong, we don't know where to complain," said Valte over a state-run radio.

The AFP in its report said the fighter jets flew over the vicinity of the Kalayaan Island Group, part of the disputed Spratlys.

The jets reportedly "buzzed" two Philippine Air Force OV-1 Broncos on a routine reconnaissance patrol Thursday last week in the Kalayaan Islands.

Earlier reports said the jets belong to China. But the Philippines refused to confirm this report.

Two Chinese patrol boats allegedly harassed a Philippine oil exploration ship into leaving a vast area called the Reed Bank on March 2, prompting a Filipino general to scramble two military aircraft, which arrived at the scene after the Chinese vessels had left, the Philippine military said.

The Philippines protested, saying the Reed Bank, which is near the Spratlys, lies within Philippine territorial waters. China countered by saying that the Spratlys and adjacent waters belong to it.

Valte meanwhile said the Chinese official's visit to the country has no relation to the intrusion issue since it was already scheduled even before the incident happened.

She also downplayed perception that China is trying to threaten the Philippines, saying she could not remember any incident of such.

In Guanglie's arrival speech, he emphasized that the purpose of his visit is to enhance mutual trust and cooperation between China and the Philippines amid rising tensions over the Spratlys Islands.

Aside from the Philippines and China, Vietnam, Brunei, Malaysia and Taiwan also take claim over the Spratlys.

Valte said Malacañang is also verifying reports of alleged shooting of two Vietnamese fishermen by the Philippine forces also in Spratlys earlier this month.

Vietnamese police said the families of the victims claimed that the attackers wore Philippine military uniforms.

"We are just verifying this report. We will announce it at the proper time," Valte said.

The 10-member Association of Southeast Asian Nations, which includes the Philippines and three other countries that claim the Spratlys, signed a nonbinding accord with China in 2002 that discourages aggressive behavior that could spark a shooting war.

The accord calls on claimants to carry out joint projects to promote harmony. The claimants, however, have failed to agree on the wording of the guidelines needed to pursue such projects.

Asean and the US have sought to turn the 2002 accord into a binding "code of conduct" for a stronger guarantee against aggression and possible armed clashes.

Aquino said he has long wanted to discuss with China how such a code could be forged. (AP/Jill Beltran/Sunnex)

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Re: President Aquino to discuss Spratlys with China
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2011, 03:21:26 AM »


MANILA. Philippine President Benigno Aquino III, right, greets Chinese Navy Rear Adm. Yao Zhilou, deputy commander of the People's Liberation Army South China Sea Fleet, during their meeting at the Presidential Malacanang palace in Manila, Philippines.(AP)

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Re: President Aquino to discuss Spratlys with China
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2011, 03:25:33 AM »
A Chinese Frigate firing a SAMS missile during a military exercise in the South China Sea , close to the disputed territory with the Philippine Republic. China does not recognize the Philippine's Claim to the Spratlys and the Scarborough Shoal.



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Re: President Aquino to discuss Spratlys with China
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2011, 10:27:02 AM »

A Chinese Frigate firing a SAMS missile during a military exercise in the South China Sea , close to the disputed territory with the Philippine Republic. China does not recognize the Philippine's Claim to the Spratlys and the Scarborough Shoal.

thank heavens neither does the philippines or any other country recognize china's claim of all of the spratlys.

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Re: President Aquino to discuss Spratlys with China
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2011, 11:04:21 AM »
so what? do we have enough muscle to fight the yellow man?

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Re: President Aquino to discuss Spratlys with China
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2011, 11:57:31 AM »

david never thought he had enough muscle to fight goliath.

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Re: President Aquino to discuss Spratlys with China
« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2011, 12:00:02 PM »

talawan ning mosukol lang kun klarong modaog.  mosukol ta kay atong katungod nga mosukol.

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Re: President Aquino to discuss Spratlys with China
« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2011, 12:11:50 PM »

imagined dialogue between p-noy and liang:

p-noy:  liang, kita mo naman, pare, iba yata ang history books at maps natin.
translator:  defense minister liang, we are warning you to keep away from our territory. 

liang:  sowe, p-noy.  i believe only awl histoli books.
translator:  no!  we own the whole of asia.

p-noy:  pwede bang lumayo muna kayo sa territory namin para maiwasan natin ang gulo?
translator:  don't provoke our military.  our air force has a force from alpha to delta all the way to omega, and they can fly with or without airplanes!

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Re: President Aquino to discuss Spratlys with China
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2011, 12:05:45 PM »
talawan ning mosukol lang kun klarong modaog.  mosukol ta kay atong katungod nga mosukol.

this is the reason why China does not engage or bully more powerful nations like the United States.

her bullying smaller nations with underdeveloped military capabilities per se the philippines, vietnam, etc is done so because she knows that these smaller countries cannot fight back against a powerful China.

luoy pood ang pilipinas. there was a time in history when china feared the philippine air force. karon, wala na yamo ang 'force' sa filipino air force....

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Re: President Aquino to discuss Spratlys with China
« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2011, 12:11:19 PM »
so what? do we have enough muscle to fight the yellow man?

realistically speaking?

buwad, the philippine air force operates dozens of propeller air craft, which constitutes the bulk of the air force. these are 1950's , 1960's air craft. with no missile capability.

china operates thousands of jet fighters. and she has a fleet of modern sukhoi air supremacy fighters, not to mention her own J-10 air fighters.

the philippine navy does not have a missile frigate, or missile corvette. most of our ships are gun-operated with short defense capabilities. we have no anti-submarine capabilities, as well as no anti-missile capabilities. the whole of the philippine navy is undermanned, as well as underpowered. we have less than 20,000 personnel who serve in the philippine navy with a very limited naval surface fleet, with the responsibility of patroling 7,100 islands and an ocean coast line that is over twice the size of the american coastline.

the philippine army is 70,000 man strong.

China's Army is over 3,000,000 strong with millions of paramilitary troops and millions more in reserves.

the philippines has no anti-nuclear capability.

China has over 200 nuclear warheads and has a powerful ICBM (intercontinental ballistic missile) capability. If China wanted to, she could launch nuclear warheads in luzon, visayas, and mindanao and make the philippines into glass (a term that is used to refer to an area of land after a nuclear detonation). China has the capability of exterminating philippines and all people in our country with her nuclear warheads.



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Re: President Aquino to discuss Spratlys with China
« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2011, 12:20:48 PM »
this is the reason why it is important that the united states and the philippines remain strong bilateral relations. a strong alliance with washington is a good deterrent against china.

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Re: President Aquino to discuss Spratlys with China
« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2011, 12:22:47 PM »
imagined dialogue between p-noy and liang:

p-noy:  liang, kita mo naman, pare, iba yata ang history books at maps natin.
translator:  defense minister liang, we are warning you to keep away from our territory. 

liang:  sowe, p-noy.  i believe only awl histoli books.
translator:  no!  we own the whole of asia.

p-noy:  pwede bang lumayo muna kayo sa territory namin para maiwasan natin ang gulo?
translator:  don't provoke our military.  our air force has a force from alpha to delta all the way to omega, and they can fly with or without airplanes!


chinese counterpart: pres. p-noy, diba talaga meron ka dugo sa inchik? diba ang lolo mo taga china?

p-noy: shhhhh.... talaga yan....


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Re: President Aquino to discuss Spratlys with China
« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2011, 02:57:54 AM »
realistically speaking?

buwad, the philippine air force operates dozens of propeller air craft, which constitutes the bulk of the air force. these are 1950's , 1960's air craft. with no missile capability.

china operates thousands of jet fighters. and she has a fleet of modern sukhoi air supremacy fighters, not to mention her own J-10 air fighters.

the philippine navy does not have a missile frigate, or missile corvette. most of our ships are gun-operated with short defense capabilities. we have no anti-submarine capabilities, as well as no anti-missile capabilities. the whole of the philippine navy is undermanned, as well as underpowered. we have less than 20,000 personnel who serve in the philippine navy with a very limited naval surface fleet, with the responsibility of patroling 7,100 islands and an ocean coast line that is over twice the size of the american coastline.

the philippine army is 70,000 man strong.

China's Army is over 3,000,000 strong with millions of paramilitary troops and millions more in reserves.

the philippines has no anti-nuclear capability.

China has over 200 nuclear warheads and has a powerful ICBM (intercontinental ballistic missile) capability. If China wanted to, she could launch nuclear warheads in luzon, visayas, and mindanao and make the philippines into glass (a term that is used to refer to an area of land after a nuclear detonation). China has the capability of exterminating philippines and all people in our country with her nuclear warheads.



hadloka ani oi,,pero murag di basta2x mo atake chinese sa pinas,,,unsa kaha kon magira,,asa kaha dapig ning mga chinoy sa pinas,,

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Re: President Aquino to discuss Spratlys with China
« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2011, 03:49:50 AM »
hadloka ani oi,,pero murag di basta2x mo atake chinese sa pinas,,,unsa kaha kon magira,,asa kaha dapig ning mga chinoy sa pinas,,

 Won't happen...Lemembel taynis lab pilipin! :D

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« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2011, 09:05:56 PM »
Won't happen...Lemembel taynis lab pilipin! :D

aw oh no,,asa naman ibaligya ilang mga pirated,,he,he,,,

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« Reply #15 on: June 05, 2011, 09:42:13 AM »
Balik sa karaang negosyo nga maghimog vetsin gikan sa bukog sa tawo bay...

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Re: President Aquino to discuss Spratlys with China
« Reply #16 on: June 06, 2011, 03:22:53 PM »
ug makig - away ka. siguradohin nga naa kay pangsukol. kay ug wa luoy kaajo ta Dong!

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« Reply #17 on: June 06, 2011, 03:28:20 PM »
Luoy kaajo ang mga ordinary citizens sa atohang bayan kai ang tax money para sa defense , gi hatag ra sa mga generals, air marshals etc. Pila na ka tuig nga nag 'modernization programs' na ta, pero wa pa man galing ta usang jet fighter.

kulirez! 2011 na and we are still using 1950's air craft for the air force.

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« Reply #18 on: June 06, 2011, 03:29:22 PM »
at this rate, it will be 2070 and we might have 2011 generation fighters...

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« Reply #19 on: June 06, 2011, 07:28:15 PM »
Luoy kaajo ang mga ordinary citizens sa atohang bayan kai ang tax money para sa defense , gi hatag ra sa mga generals, air marshals etc. Pila na ka tuig nga nag 'modernization programs' na ta, pero wa pa man galing ta usang jet fighter.

kulirez! 2011 na and we are still using 1950's air craft for the air force.

Air marshals? :P

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« Reply #20 on: June 07, 2011, 05:54:48 PM »
kinsa man god dapat ipuli aning atong mga opisyal,nag korakot kaayo,,siguro ibaligya ta madugay aning mga tonto kay kasagarn insik raba ni sila,,

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« Reply #21 on: June 07, 2011, 06:05:14 PM »
Oops, hinay-hinay, Bay Chris, naa ra bay atong kauban diri nga nanghambog nga superpowerdom jamo siya kay kaliwat kuno siyag Tsaynis...

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« Reply #22 on: June 10, 2011, 06:43:50 PM »
Oops, hinay-hinay, Bay Chris, naa ra bay atong kauban diri nga nanghambog nga superpowerdom jamo siya kay kaliwat kuno siyag Tsaynis...

sowe kaayo pero pinoy ako,,,way lain tag iya sa pilipinas kondi mga pilipino,,kon boot man nila bihagon ang pinas,,kong sa ground lang ma gira,,salig kos pinoy nga army,,,

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« Reply #23 on: June 10, 2011, 07:01:02 PM »
Ako jud nuod bay, kaliwat man ko ni Dagohoy ug ni Lapulapu unya bisay pa jud og nawong, pakamatyan jud nako ang yutang natawhan...

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« Reply #24 on: June 10, 2011, 07:07:20 PM »
Ako jud nuod bay, kaliwat man ko ni Dagohoy ug ni Lapulapu unya bisay pa jud og nawong, pakamatyan jud nako ang yutang natawhan...

kana,,mao na sakto,,nya kon magira bai,,asa ka tago bai sultie ko,he,he,he,,

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« Reply #25 on: June 10, 2011, 07:23:17 PM »
Naa koy daghang kweba nga nasum-ok bay, pili lang unya ta...

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« Reply #26 on: June 10, 2011, 07:24:29 PM »
Naa koy daghang kweba nga nasum-ok bay, pili lang unya ta...

nya,ha,ha,ha,,unsa kaha na nga kueba maoy ahog naa ra sa san ciangko dapit,,,

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« Reply #27 on: June 10, 2011, 07:47:49 PM »
Naay dapit sa Echavez bay, naa na pud gani paingon sa Talamban ron...

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« Reply #28 on: June 10, 2011, 07:56:10 PM »
Naay dapit sa Echavez bay, naa na pud gani paingon sa Talamban ron...

lab as pa?tingalig HEN,,na bai,,kadaghan na mangitlog,,nya,ha,ha,ha,

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Re: President Aquino to discuss Spratlys with China
« Reply #29 on: June 10, 2011, 08:22:30 PM »
Aw, tarongon jud nimog pili, basin masud tas taro, sa pung pa ni Bay Bugsay...

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« Reply #30 on: June 11, 2011, 09:27:55 PM »
Aw, tarongon jud nimog pili, basin masud tas taro, sa pung pa ni Bay Bugsay...

taro nga naay window glass,,nya,ha,ha,ha,ha,

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« Reply #31 on: June 11, 2011, 10:09:33 PM »
Kuyaw diay mapusgay inigkisikisi...

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Re: President Aquino to discuss Spratlys with China
« Reply #32 on: June 17, 2011, 08:38:20 PM »
zhapit na magira,padal pinas dako barko,,akong gitan aw sa balita kay kinadak an man kono,,sos gamay man gihapon,,,salin sa gubat 1942,,kalooy nato oi,,gisunod nag timbangan atong warship,,,,,

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« Reply #33 on: June 18, 2011, 04:15:09 PM »
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« Reply #34 on: June 18, 2011, 06:28:18 PM »
molotaw ba oi,,taya on og bawod kong maoy maka agi,,he,he,he,

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« Reply #35 on: June 18, 2011, 07:08:57 PM »
He he, pwede diay tawgon nga fishing vessel, kay mahilo man sa taya ang mga isda nga maagian. Tsk, tsk, tsk, maayo gani kay di moagi sa kadagatan sa atoa, basin fishkill ang labas sa pinakalami nga bolinaw nga taga sa Balingsya...

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« Reply #36 on: June 18, 2011, 07:22:36 PM »
marunong na bolinaw sa bawingsya oi,,,,suyopon na una nya makabantay gani nga bahong taya ilowa ra,,he,he,,igo ra malipong kadali,,

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« Reply #37 on: June 18, 2011, 07:27:26 PM »
He he, kon ang dapit maoy atong hisgotan, marunong tuod ang bolinaw didto, pero ambot lang kaha ang utok bolinaw... ;D

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« Reply #38 on: June 18, 2011, 07:29:56 PM »
He he, kon ang dapit maoy atong hisgotan, marunong tuod ang bolinaw didto, pero ambot lang kaha ang utok bolinaw... ;D

agoy,,,,sakita...

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« Reply #39 on: June 18, 2011, 07:59:21 PM »
Naay daghang anesthesia bay...

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