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Re: kung ikaw ang mamahimong presidente...
« Reply #40 on: October 31, 2008, 09:40:14 PM »
kung akoy ma presedente, magbutang ko ug usa ka ahensiya nga maoy tahasan sa tanang procurement process. maayo ni kay usa ra ang auditon ug dali ra masakpan ang mangilkil.

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Re: kung ikaw ang mamahimong presidente...
« Reply #41 on: November 02, 2008, 11:07:10 PM »
the main root of the problems besetting this country have always been; (1) corruption occuring at all levels of government, and (2) policies that favor the capitalist. these are the two main reasons why a great majority of this country are hungry. naturally, reversing the situation would require an iron hand to impose law and order (walang, kaibigan, walang, kamaganak, etc...), and policies that would facilitate equitable distribution of wealth or any variant that comes close. in other words, we need a dictator. a dictator whose obsession is to mitigate poverty and ensure that all filipinos go to bed in their own homes with a full stomach every night. if i were president, i would be that dictator.

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Re: kung ikaw ang mamahimong presidente...
« Reply #42 on: November 04, 2008, 10:56:30 PM »
Corruption becomes widespread and worst during the implementation of the local government code championed by Nene Pemintel. This just expands the bureaucractic system of our government, the root cause of this number one evil of governance. Empowering so much people in the procurement process of government documents adds the burden to even the ordinary people, not to mention the cost of acquiring it.

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Re: kung ikaw ang mamahimong presidente...
« Reply #43 on: November 05, 2008, 08:46:10 AM »
the local government code was enacted on the belief of sen. nene on decentralization, empowering local government units on the theory that they know better the local scene. nene was just so trusting. now that we know that the lgc does not achieve the purposes it was envisioned, i think its time now to rethink/reconsider the provisions of the law.  but i think that's not possible as long as nene is still breathing. he just believes that the lgc was given to him by God in Mt. hibukhibuk...hehehe 

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« Reply #44 on: November 05, 2008, 10:12:08 AM »
Calle, you're exactly right! All Nene thought about his pet law was flawless without looking different scenarios in all angles. He then thought that leaders of the local government are God-fearing like him kuno; that corruption is nowhere in the minds of these local officials kasi bulgar kuno kaayo sa mga local constituents. Bitaw, tinuod nga dali ra sila mabulgar. Ang seste, pakapalan na ng mukha ang nangyari. They take their position as an opputunity to enrich themselves without minding starving Juan de la Cruz to death.

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Re: kung ikaw ang mamahimong presidente...
« Reply #45 on: November 05, 2008, 10:57:01 AM »
corruption has become horrifyingly a part of our government system.. nadawat na pud sa katawhan.. sa pagkakarun, murag okay na nila (aw, apil pud ko ini kay i religiously attend to my duty as a citizen to vote on elections) ang lesser evil between the candidates. pity. sad. and ridiculous. and it hurts kay apil ko.  governance has become a business of compromise between 2 evils when it should have been between the good and the better.. hahay.. maybe im just too idealistic of my views and opinions. but im also aware nga mao na jud ni mao botar ghapon ko.  but this is not saying nga ok na nako ang corruption sa government.  im just being realistic sa akong pagbotar.hehe its good to be realistic sometimes though. basta lang ang ideals of my youth remains.

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Re: kung ikaw ang mamahimong presidente...
« Reply #46 on: November 05, 2008, 11:26:02 AM »
Money begets power. Power begets corruption. Corruption begets economic dislocation. Economic dislocation begets hunger. Then hungry voters prefer candidates who can dole out more money than the other. Mobalik gihapon ang cycle that, 'Money talks', when more Filipino stomachs are complaining.

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Re: kung ikaw ang mamahimong presidente...
« Reply #47 on: November 05, 2008, 03:10:57 PM »
A Layman,

How would we be able to change this current situation, realistically speaking, is it even possible?



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« Reply #48 on: November 05, 2008, 03:26:33 PM »
Yes, possibilities are finite like winding twist and turns. It has to start within ourselves by showing our less fortunate brothers that we care. Unless we do that, the cycle remains.

Remember the great words of encouragement uttered from the lips of JFK? " Ask not what the government can do for you, but ask what you can do for the government." The government he was refering to is the people who put them into power.

JFK made history when he was elected as the first Catholic President of the US. Now, the US is on the treshold of cementing the will for a change by electing Barrak Obama as the 44th US President. He made history as the first black president elected in the US. My hand off to the new president elect! Pangumusta na lang nyo ako dyan sa White House. LOL

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Re: kung ikaw ang mamahimong presidente...
« Reply #49 on: November 05, 2008, 04:36:46 PM »
Kong akoy presidente? Bai Lor naa koy solution sa atong problema sa usa ka corrupt nga sociedad:

1. akong ibutang sa isla sa basilan ang tanang politico nga 40yrs old and above.
2. Bombahan nakog hydrogen bomb ning mga tawhana.
3. mo evaporate sila sa atmosphere.

aning solutiona, sigurado gyud ko nga ma hurot ang tanang korakot ug mabag-o ang dagway sa atong politika!   

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Re: kung ikaw ang mamahimong presidente...
« Reply #50 on: November 05, 2008, 04:46:04 PM »
Buwad, relax ka lang dyan! Wag kang masyadong rebelious! Si kaniadtong Congressman Galagar, hilon kaajo tong tawhana. Taga Jagna man to sija, di ba?

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Re: kung ikaw ang mamahimong presidente...
« Reply #51 on: November 05, 2008, 04:50:07 PM »
sakto ka Lay, taga jagna to. ma pongot ka nga maluoy kay una corrupt pud tong tawhana. luoy pud kay namatay tawon to nagpa limos nalang!

makaulit, luoy ug guow hunahunaon ijang kinabuhi! si nong baning bernido ang namatay nga wa gyuy tatsa. na governor to sija sa bohol.

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Re: kung ikaw ang mamahimong presidente...
« Reply #52 on: November 05, 2008, 05:07:58 PM »
Mao nay giingon nga wa matug ang Ginoo. Ug unsay imong daot nga gibuhat moabot ra gihapon kanimo ang kastigo aron mabayran nimo ang imong pagpasakit sa makalolooy natong mga katawhan. Sa iningles pa, "time will come".

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« Reply #53 on: November 06, 2008, 02:55:00 AM »
Yes, possibilities are finite like winding twist and turns. It has to start within ourselves by showing our less fortunate brothers that we care. Unless we do that, the cycle remains.

Remember the great words of encouragement uttered from the lips of JFK? " Ask not what the government can do for you, but ask what you can do for the government." The government he was refering to is the people who put them into power.

JFK made history when he was elected as the first Catholic President of the US. Now, the US is on the treshold of cementing the will for a change by electing Barrak Obama as the 44th US President. He made history as the first black president elected in the US. My hand off to the new president elect! Pangumusta na lang nyo ako dyan sa White House. LOL

A Layman,

You did not answer my question. I understand that it is possible to change, no doubt that is always a possibility.

I, however, was asking how would one change the system? Specifically, what must be addressed and acted on? What specific departments in bureaucracy? In the fiscal arena, etc etc.



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Re: kung ikaw ang mamahimong presidente...
« Reply #54 on: November 06, 2008, 10:03:58 AM »
I don't see any immediate solution of the situation except total revamp or civil war to revert the true nature of the pyramidal system. But it is so drastic and will inflict more damage than good. The situation here is like a total collapse of the moral fibers of society. Evil deeds are seemingly normalized as if they were acceptable because big crimes are committed by people in power. they are all looking after their own interest, and they know how to circumvent the laws because the laws are seemingly tailored or customized to fit their interest, for their own sake and not for the sake of the whole populace. Enzo, correct me if I'm wrong with my own perception.

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« Reply #55 on: November 06, 2008, 12:22:03 PM »
Kong akoy presidente? Bai Lor naa koy solution sa atong problema sa usa ka corrupt nga sociedad:

1. akong ibutang sa isla sa basilan ang tanang politico nga 40yrs old and above.
2. Bombahan nakog hydrogen bomb ning mga tawhana.
3. mo evaporate sila sa atmosphere.

aning solutiona, sigurado gyud ko nga ma hurot ang tanang korakot ug mabag-o ang dagway sa atong politika!   

lol, that is very radical, Buwad. But I admire your reverie in that aspect.

Yes, definitely these political bogeys need to be rooted out.

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« Reply #56 on: November 06, 2008, 12:30:18 PM »
I don't see any immediate solution of the situation except total revamp or civil war to revert the true nature of the pyramidal system. But it is so drastic and will inflict more damage than good. The situation here is like a total collapse of the moral fibers of society. Evil deeds are seemingly normalized as if they were acceptable because big crimes are committed by people in power. they are all looking after their own interest, and they know how to circumvent the laws because the laws are seemingly tailored or customized to fit their interest, for their own sake and not for the sake of the whole populace. Enzo, correct me if I'm wrong with my own perception.

The problem with our current political system is that it is flawed to begin with. Rampant corruption from the local level form the barangay to the municipality to the provincial level, the regional level and the national level.

We are stuck, so to say, in the milieu of political stasis of what was set in place to the functioning system. The political conscience resonates of the following, "sacrifice the entire system? too much time has been placed in said system to abandon it. It would look unfavorable in regards to foreign oversight and trade so on and so forth. "

I do not think it wise for a civil war, as it would only invite parasites from abroad to take advantage of the situation (in regards to Chinese surgency, Malaysian and Indonesian encroachment).

The Philippines has yet to be awakened. Sometime in the not-too-distant future, this country will be awakened either by a war that will shake the said foundations of Philippine society as to diffuse sentiments within said population to demand a total change of the political spectrum.

Time and History shall be the final judge. I pray we will still be alive to see the positive changes needed in Philippine Politics.


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Re: kung ikaw ang mamahimong presidente...
« Reply #57 on: November 06, 2008, 12:42:23 PM »
angay siguro BINDITAHAN ning mga politico (apil mga ordinary citizen pud) enzo...


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« Reply #58 on: November 06, 2008, 02:06:43 PM »
KINING MGA POLITICOHA DILI NA MADA SA BINDITA O VENDETA PWEDE SIGURO. UG DI PA JUD PWEDE, BARANGON NA NATO!

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« Reply #59 on: November 07, 2008, 09:27:45 AM »
vendeta natong mga yanong lumolopyo sa atong nasod, sa balota ra jud na taman kay di man na posible nga ato sila magira.. aw pwede pud nato latiguhon ug ikog sa sanga/pagi buwad.. pero barang jud tingali sakto buwad.. na bay barangan sa jagna?hehehe

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« Reply #60 on: November 07, 2008, 09:58:56 AM »
calle kaliwat mig barangan ang problema di ma dutlan si gloria kay mismo ang hari sa impyerno si satanas mao nay mi kubot nija!

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« Reply #61 on: November 10, 2008, 12:42:32 PM »
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« Reply #62 on: November 10, 2008, 01:07:41 PM »
sagdi bay, dutlan ra lagi nis gloria. kalibang lagi nig isdang dangit nga ikog gauna!

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« Reply #63 on: November 10, 2008, 11:59:59 PM »
sagdi bay, dutlan ra lagi nis gloria. kalibang lagi nig isdang dangit nga ikog gauna!
abi nako ug cross buwad.

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« Reply #64 on: November 11, 2008, 02:03:25 PM »
murag mas gilok ng dangit nga gauna ang ikog bnc..

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« Reply #65 on: November 11, 2008, 02:13:24 PM »
hahahha! cant imagine it mga sano! bahakhak gyud kog katawa ug malibang na!

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« Reply #66 on: November 11, 2008, 02:23:38 PM »
ok ra kung cross bnc, basta pareho sa krus daku sa loboc or sa punta cruz..

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« Reply #67 on: November 11, 2008, 10:56:28 PM »
ok ra kung cross bnc, basta pareho sa krus daku sa loboc or sa punta cruz..
giahak, unsaon naman na? pas-anon inig human?
hahaha, maypa siguro angkla or taga nga bali ang sima.

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« Reply #68 on: November 12, 2008, 12:17:52 AM »
ok ra ug dangit basta daghan ug prisko kay lami man kana kilawon.

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« Reply #69 on: November 12, 2008, 09:13:43 AM »
pritohon pud! ug di gani i buwad!

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« Reply #70 on: November 12, 2008, 10:32:39 AM »
mukaon mog dangit nga tae ni Gloria? kamu na lang.. bisan pag iladlad ug perla ug zonrox..

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« Reply #71 on: November 12, 2008, 11:18:17 AM »
na unsa gud nang danggit? nganong naabot sa Perla ug Chlorox? unya gikalibang?? wa jud ko ka get! hahahha

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« Reply #72 on: November 12, 2008, 11:49:54 AM »
mam mdb, ang istorya ini kay gisamukan na mi ni GMA diri. mao nga ingun ko pabinditahan na lang namu. si buwad nisuggest nga barangon na lang kay dili daw na dutlan ug bindita si GMA, na man daw kaliwat silang buwad ug barangan. ang style kuno sa barang si GMA makalibang ug dangit. ingun sila lami daw ng dangit. mao nga ingun ko nga bisan unsa pa kalami ng dangit, kung gikan na sa lobot ni GMA di ko mukaun, bisan pag iladlad pag perla ug chlorox.. gets?

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« Reply #73 on: November 12, 2008, 11:57:27 AM »
hahahahha! ampo gyug ko kalibag dangit gauna ag ikog nis gloria!

pwera gaba ning presidenteha!

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Re: kung ikaw ang mamahimong presidente...
« Reply #74 on: November 12, 2008, 12:14:00 PM »
pero sa bohol, apil ako papa ug mama, makigpatay jud tungod ug alang ni gloria.. tungod sa circumferential mao pro-GMA kau mga taga bohol

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Re: kung ikaw ang mamahimong presidente...
« Reply #75 on: November 12, 2008, 12:47:04 PM »
calls panahon pana ni ramos ang circumferintial road project. DTI ang nag prioritize ana way labut nas gloria nga way gloria!

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Re: kung ikaw ang mamahimong presidente...
« Reply #76 on: November 12, 2008, 01:06:03 PM »
yep. pero kanang ubay to candijay to valencia to tagb to calape, nabuhat man gud na time ni gma pero ang original proponent ana kay si governor torralba (kadtong gitikasan ni david), mao didto niya ang credit nadung,, mao pud ang credit didto pud ni aumentado,, like sa malinao dam sa pilar, kang tirol man kuno na, di kang aumentado, angkonay lang na sila. ang satellite city sa tagb, kang rocha pud na, giangkon ni torralba,,

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Re: kung ikaw ang mamahimong presidente...
« Reply #77 on: November 12, 2008, 01:13:11 PM »
pasagdi na sila. angkunay murag mga bata!

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« Reply #78 on: November 12, 2008, 01:36:00 PM »
pasikat.. pakarun-ingnun,, credit grabber,, the art of politics,,

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Re: kung ikaw ang mamahimong presidente...
« Reply #79 on: November 13, 2008, 01:41:39 AM »
kung ang report sa DPWH ug sa national government and basehan. tanan dalan sa bohol labi na kadtong mga provincial roads, national roads ug uban diha reported na nga puro aspaltado ug sementado sa panahon pa ni anhing gobernador lino chatto. karon, kung inyong suroyon ang tibuok bohol nya tan-awa ang mga national ug provincial roads leading to other towns. tanan ba aspaltado ug sementado? dili mga kaigsoonan kung bol-anon. maong maglisod ug kuha ug funding ang mga congressman ug governor sa bohol kung ilang projects mag aspalto ug magsemento. kanang mga funds nga gigamit diha sa pagsemento sa kalsada gkan sa tagbilaran going to tubigon to ubay to talibon and so on, puro na repairs and rehabilitation ang requests and reports nga nabutang. karon ang pangutana, nganong wala ta kita ug mga sementado ug aspaltadong dalan sa province sa bohol sukad adtong 1960's up to year 2000?

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