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Francis Chiz Escudero as Philippine President in 2010?
« on: January 26, 2009, 04:01:08 PM »
By the Bohol Chronicle

The high performance rating of  Sen Francis Chiz Escudero in a recent  survey conducted by Pulse Asia was affirmed by Boholanos yesterday as they picked him as their presidential bet if elections were to be conducted tomorrow.

In the "performance rating," Escudero generated 78% followed by Sen. Loren Legarda , 76%. Sen. Mar Roxas,72% and Sen. Kiko Pangilinan with 68% .  Escudero and Legarda belong to the Nationalist People's Coalition.   

Sen. Escudero breezed into town last Thursday purposely to gather the pulse of the people on his talked about candidacy for President in next year's presidential and local election. He flew from Manila for a four-hour stay here then proceeded to Dumaguete City and Iloilo City.

From the airport, he proceeded to station dyRD for a live interview  over the top-rated Inyong Alagad program. Callers jammed the station's phone lines as listeners took turns to ask questions from the young senator.

During a random survey conducted yesterday by "Radyo Merkado" of dyRD, Escudero stood high as the favored presidential candidate. with 71.4% while Legarda pooled 21%. Only the names of the two senators were included in yesterday's radio survey, being both from the NPC under the leadership of business tycoon  Danding Cojuangco.

Of those who favored Sen Escudero, they cited his brilliance and  frankness as factors which generated strong appeal to the voters.

However, Sen Escudero said  the talked about presidential bid will remain a rumor until he will turn 40 in October this year.

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Re: Francis Chiz Escudero as Philippine President in 2010?
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2009, 04:07:06 PM »
has he really done anything significant to us?

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« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2009, 07:11:25 PM »
This guy Escudero is so ambitious. He hasn't done anything and he wants to be the president of the Philippines.

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Re: Francis Chiz Escudero as Philippine President in 2010?
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2009, 09:08:08 PM »
This guy Escudero is so ambitious. He hasn't done anything and he wants to be the president of the Philippines.

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Welcome, doggoneson.

the one who gets more money and popularity will certainly win next year's election.

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« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2009, 10:41:36 PM »
I am looking for a president who could do the following:

- Free College Education to Filipinos and non-filipinos.
- Establish the Philippines as the Import & Re-Export Hub in Asia
- Claim Sabah Malaysia through War or Deplomatic means
- Secure our boundaries at Spratlys Islands and give ultimatum to China to withdraw from its base. Order a Military firepower if ultimatum is not complied
- Impose ban on companies that exceed 60% foreign ownership
- Reinstall the death sentence to Filipinos and non-filipinos

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« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2009, 10:49:28 PM »
Do we have adequate military facilities to wage war? against Malaysia and China?
Arent we placing ourselves in great danger?
Have we ever thought of the military might of China?Malaysia?
We could not even solve our own homeland problem of insurgency, muslim separatism and terrorism.

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« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2009, 10:51:13 PM »
our soldiers in Mindanao are even using very old millitary equipments...
Usa ka nuclear bomb ra sa China, tunaw na tang tanan.



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« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2009, 11:46:08 PM »
War is won by determination.

Think about the katipuneros if they had thought of the big cannons from the Spaniards against thier bolos and spears.

What would happen to our guirellas if they thought that Japanese have planes and ships against thier small guns.

What China is doing at Spratlys islands is literally an Invasion and we are doing nothing to defend ourselves.

If we initiate this war, do you think America would just do nothing?

Just for mental excercise, peace Ayessa ;D



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« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2009, 12:00:09 AM »
talking about history, did the katipuneros really win against the spaniards without the backing of the americans?
bolos are no match against high powered guns.

we can only speak of war when we are capable of doing so, in reality there is no david and goliath in the real world.  the goliath, the giants always win.  let us face it.
If we wage war, dont we end up being pulverized by China?

It may be an invasion to our claimed territory, but in this modern world, we do not claim terrotories through wars but through gaining international support.

war is not only won by determination.  there are so many determined group which never prospered because of lack of military skills and facilities.

let us admit it, we do not have it.

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« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2009, 12:01:24 AM »
palaban diay ta dayun sa america.  masuko ta nga naay muankon nga mga insik sa atong territory pero, magpalaban ta sa amerika. murag palamuot.

sugod sugod ug gira, unyag mabanghagan,, tago sa saya sa america.
asa naman ta ani puniton?

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« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2009, 12:02:02 AM »
dili ta magsugod kung dili ta kamao muhuman. lisod kung mu wage ta ug war.. una una.. then and ending palaban.

asa ra man atong national pride, nahimung pride chicken.

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« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2009, 06:30:02 PM »
mas maayo nang ma-atomic bomb ta.

human na daun ato mga problema.

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« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2009, 06:34:57 PM »
maayo lang ug masiguro ug kamatay, unyag maluwas.. mamura ug nawung ug alien.. samut dakong problema.. kung mo bomba mga insik, patungod dayun..

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« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2009, 09:34:15 PM »
war of words, we probably can handle that against the chinese.  ;D

kung ila atomic bomb, barang lang ang katapat nyan. hehehe.

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« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2009, 01:52:41 AM »
hahaha naunsa na ni nga nahimo naman ning gira ug barang.

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« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2009, 04:12:49 AM »
dili ta magsugod kung dili ta kamao muhuman. lisod kung mu wage ta ug war.. una una.. then and ending palaban.

asa ra man atong national pride, nahimung pride chicken.

bahala lang gud magpalaban sa amerika ,bahala na gud na national pride mahimong pride chicken lami man sad kan-on na pride chicken hehehe kay kon makuha ang spratlys mag sege na -kaon ug pride chicken , kay ang pride mao na pordoy japon  pinas

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« Reply #16 on: March 04, 2009, 04:21:22 AM »
naa kaha tay ikasukol`? mulaban kaha ang amerika kung walay silay vested interest? basin ang ending, mailaha diay ang spratlys.. dakong kabuang

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« Reply #17 on: March 04, 2009, 04:24:05 AM »
gigutum na daan ang mga pinoy, asa man intawun ta ipalit ug bala ninyo?

abe nakog peace loving ang mga Bol-anon. unya rational manghuna huna.

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« Reply #18 on: March 04, 2009, 04:30:38 AM »
ang usa ka bala, mahal pa sa usa ka kilo nga bugas? gatoo kaha mo nga madato ang pilipinas tungod sa gira? mura lagi tag ga imagine no?

ing tabang ba ang mga amerikano masugpo ang mga abu sayaf? naa man gihapun sila, bisan gipangbihag sauna mga amerikano sad?  wala man..


labong inig abot sa gubat, karatil ug dagan. dayun mahay.

gira-gira, ang tinood nga storya ilawum dagat!.

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« Reply #19 on: March 04, 2009, 04:46:19 AM »
Until we eventually avenge ourselves from the bondage of ignorance and poverty, never would we emerge victorious.

War is very costly to wage.  Lives are at stake and most often than not, the poor are always placed at the disadvantage. War is an act of violence.

Empires won by war did not last. Let us learn from history.

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« Reply #20 on: March 04, 2009, 04:46:35 AM »
Okay let us examine this logically and in regards to the powers at play.

The Republic of the Philippines is a strategic ally of the United States and is a participating member of the United States' Pacific Command's CARAT exercise annually. The United States Navy PACOM (Pacific Command: which is based throughout Guam, Japan, Korea, Taiwan, and Hawaii) works closely with the Philippine Combined Fleet in anti-piracy activities as well as worked together to augmenting the fire parity of the Philippine Surface Fleet.

Part of the assurance the Alliance the Philippines has with The United States is a guaranteed Nuclear Umbrella. The United States' policy in this is to defend the territorial sovereignty of the United States and its overseas strategic allies/partners. The Philippines, being a strategic partner since the independence of the Philippines from the United States in July 4, 1946.

Let us accept the honest truth. The United States has vested interest in the Philippines, either we choose to accept this reality, it is still fact. The United States' interest in the Philippines was well illustrated when it invaded the Philippines in 1944 to reclaim the Islands from Japanese occupation, thought the United States had an option to bypass the Philippines, they, however, showed and solidified American-Filipino strategic interests by launching the largest naval invasion in the continuum of Human History.

The American Naval Flotilla that was launched to retake the Philippines included an expeditionary scout force of Marines that numbered over 50,000. The United States entire 6th Army landed in Leyte and poured out and overwhelmed any and all Japanese defenders (all 300,000+). The United States unleashed the United States 5th Air Force that took over the air and paved the way for the liberation of the Philippines.

Japan's entire defense force was wiped out; suffering a casualty rate of 300,000+.
The United States Marines and Army lost 62,000 casualties in retaking the Philippines.

America, willingly, sacrificed over 60,000+ of its boys to free the Philippines.
That is equivalent to 6 Divisions being eradicated for the liberation of the Philippines.
Note that they had the option in bypassing the Philippines as what MacArthur was advised by the High Command, to use the "Island Hopping" tactic, but MacArthur and his staff determined that the Philippines was too important, strategically, to the United States to remain under foreign/enemy control.

By keeping his word to 'Return', he set precedence between the two nations.

Now on the topic of China using nuclear attacks on the Philippines, this is impossible and highly improbably. So long as the Chinese want to prosper and attain economic success, which I am confident that they do, they will evade such a suicidal option.

The United States abides by M.A.D (Mutually Assured Destruction). Meaning if any hostile power launches a nuclear warhead on the United States, its territories abroad, and any of its strategic allies, the United States will uphold its national interest and interests of said ally. This is called a 'Nuclear Umbrella'.

So, if China does happen to launch a tactical Nuclear ICBM (intercontinental ballistic missile) on the Philippines, the United States' response would be to Launch a volley of its own ICBM Thermonuclear Missiles on China. It will vaporize and literally 'Glass' all of China as a result.

America has bases in Basilan and throughout Mindanao. And those bases are recognized as American soil/'territory'. An attack on the Philippines will be translated by the United States Military as an attack on the United States of America, itself.

China isn't stupid enough to do so.

It is one of the only reasons why China has not engaged the Philippine Surface Fleet regarding the Kalayaan Group. China knows that Uncle Sam's Nuclear Submarine Wolf Packs and half of the United States' 18 Super Air Craft Carriers and support ships patrol the pacific. And definitely inside Philippine Waters.

:)

No nation will invade the Philippines. Why would they?
The Philippines has a really, really, really powerful friend.
The American HyperPower.

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« Reply #21 on: March 04, 2009, 04:56:42 AM »
This illustrates the Tactical-Military Alliance of the Republic of the Philippines and The United States of America:


Philippine and American Marines


The brothers in Arms.
Philippine Marines and American Marines in Jungle Warefare. In the Philippines


Renewed Alliance. USA and Philippines


Philippine and US Navies in exercise
CARAT 2008


Philippine Navy Missile Boat


Combined Philippine-American Naval Flotilla
Carat 2008
Took Place in the South China Sea region.
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« Reply #22 on: March 04, 2009, 05:23:09 AM »
I am looking for a president who could do the following:

- Free College Education to Filipinos and non-filipinos.
- Establish the Philippines as the Import & Re-Export Hub in Asia
- Claim Sabah Malaysia through War or Deplomatic means
- Secure our boundaries at Spratlys Islands and give ultimatum to China to withdraw from its base. Order a Military firepower if ultimatum is not complied
- Impose ban on companies that exceed 60% foreign ownership
- Reinstall the death sentence to Filipinos and non-filipinos

hoy, macky, imong gyera ni. hahahahaha.

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« Reply #23 on: March 04, 2009, 05:28:21 AM »
Until we eventually avenge ourselves from the bondage of ignorance and poverty, never would we emerge victorious.

War is very costly to wage.  Lives are at stake and most often than not, the poor are always placed at the disadvantage. War is an act of violence.

Empires won by war did not last. Let us learn from history.

you have a point, ayessa.

and the world cannot afford to have another war or our country, to be specific. why would we want to go to that path when there's a peaceful way to end a conflict? in war, nobody is a winner. everybody is a loser.


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« Reply #24 on: March 04, 2009, 05:36:27 AM »
In my own analysis, America is now fighting an Economic War.

Since year 2000, most of American Owned Companies are being acquired by outsiders like MGM is bought by a Japanese, Disneyland is partly acquired by Europeans, many brands that were american origin and are considered the american legacy are now owned by Europeans and Japanese. One of the best example is Ray-Ban, the best known american symbol, popularized by Mc Arthur, branded as since 1947, the company who designed the multi layered RB50 anti radiation lens of Apollo worn by the Neil Armstrong, the American Pride is acquired by Luxottica Group, an optical Giant in Italy. Marlboro, Nestle and many others are partly acquired by a German group. These are just example. I can see many companies in the US are failing and the situation is worsening.

Since China, is known to be the biggest source of counterfeit products and biggest threat to the American business, the US did a fire fighting strategy by puting its factories in China to compete with counterfeit. By doing so, they could closely monitor and control those counterfeit producers. At the same time, the US enjoys cheap labor. In the process, the US gained control and influence over Chinas economy.

In conclusion, if the US says get out of Spratlys, China will do without hesitation.

On the other hand, I doubt if the US has tolerated China's oil exploration activities at Spratlys in order to fuel thier factories which are also owned by the US?

So, back to Chez Escudero, he is a fighter. I can feel his passion and determination. A brave young guy and surely he will be a promising figure in Philippine politics. However, I have not seen enough caliber to surpass that of Ninoy Aquino and other great pinoys. I don't think he could change the face of our country as a president.

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« Reply #25 on: March 04, 2009, 05:39:06 AM »
This is all I can say. Everyone who claims to love Christ must hate war.
How could we enjoy victory at the expense of others?


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« Reply #26 on: March 04, 2009, 05:42:17 AM »
Sooner or later, the Visiting Forces Agreement will be declared unconstitutional. Im keeping my fingers crossed.

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« Reply #27 on: March 04, 2009, 05:51:15 AM »
Lorenzo, one of my classmate and good friend is working inside the USS Ronald Reagan

Meet the guy:









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« Reply #28 on: March 04, 2009, 06:04:01 AM »
This is all I can say. Everyone who claims to love Christ must hate war.
How could we enjoy victory at the expense of others?


War is allowed by God to defend the community that worshiped Him. Even God allows the war of Angels.

I still believes in determination. Look at a small country like Israel, it is challenged by a gaint Russia, Lebanon and Syria and until now it still stands proud. They were persecuted by the Nazis, but until now their race exists and strong. Like Israel, the Philippines is protected by the US Military. During the cold war days, Russia would have easily captured Israel without the military aid of the US. The US Military will pulvorize any nation that touches its strategic points and allies.

A former ally of the US that still exist today are the Mujahidin Army of Afghanistan. They were the best Army that Russia had encountered and they were trained and armed by the US. They were just a handful of brave guirellas against a Superpower Russia.

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« Reply #29 on: March 04, 2009, 06:10:39 AM »
Lorenzo, one of my classmate and good friend is working inside the USS Ronald Reagan

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Mr. Ferniz, your friend is an officer of the US Navy. Kuyawa, he's in service in a carrier. Stationed siya sa PACCOM or sa CENTCOM?

That is so cool, in the background is a US F/A-18 Superhornet.

Carrier-based Air Supremacy Tactical Fighter.

These fighters are untouchable, second only to the F/A-22 Raptor.


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« Reply #30 on: March 04, 2009, 06:16:26 AM »
In one of the pictures, Mr. Ferniz, I can see that the F/A-18's hull reads, 'El Paso, Texas'.

Then in the last picture I can tell that that is the WWII Memorial in Honolulu, Hawaii.

Officer ni siya in a US Nuclear Super Air Craft Carrier. No doubt.

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« Reply #31 on: March 04, 2009, 06:28:35 AM »
In one of the pictures, Mr. Ferniz, I can see that the F/A-18's hull reads, 'El Paso, Texas'.

Then in the last picture I can tell that that is the WWII Memorial in Honolulu, Hawaii.

Officer ni siya in a US Nuclear Super Air Craft Carrier. No doubt.

Yes Lorenzo, he is long back an officer. He joined the US Marine in 1987 through a recruitment. We both took the entrace exams, but he has more determination. That time I was thinking twice due to my upcoming board exams in Engineering. While he pursued in the next level which is the physical training.

He was a fat boy then and after the training at one of the US bases, he comes back proud and with the abs like Manny Pacquiao.

Should I have the determination, I would be like him by now.

But really this guy is very humble.

By the way, he is the causin of Mickey Gatal.

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« Reply #32 on: March 04, 2009, 06:36:46 AM »
Kuyawa.

My salutes.

An Officer of the US Naval Fleet.

This man is one of many thousands that serve to protect the United States of America!

America's Brave and Proud Sons and Daughters!

GOD BLESS THE AMERICAN EAGLE!

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« Reply #33 on: March 04, 2009, 06:41:50 AM »
we have 7,100 islands, why can't we give them Spratlys if they need it?  :P

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« Reply #34 on: March 04, 2009, 06:45:02 AM »
The Spratleys is sitting above billions upon billions of natural gas reserves.

This is why The United States will not allow China to drill and take hold, this is why the Philippine will not relinquish its claims to the islands; clearly it is of national importance.

And also, the Philippine-claimed and occupied Spratleys fall within the 300 mile National Exclusive Zone Right.

For the Philippines to relinquish its national claim and right is to abandon foreign policy. Quite frankly this is the most important foreign policy the Philippines has in its plate. Second to that is the Sabah State.

The Republic of the Philippines, a nation of a population that will soon exceed 100 Million, clearly has a need and national prerogative to secure energy supplies. The Kalayaan Group (Philippine-Claimed and occupied Spratleys) is pivotal and is of the utmost national importance for national solidarity and energy supply.

It is important to note that China and Vietnam had a naval clash concerning the Chinese-Vietnamese claimed Spratleys. Vietnam lost a considerable amount of its ships to secure its territory. This is the bullying power of the People's Republic of China.

The Philippines does not tolerate bullying by the Chinese.

The Chinese already come illegally to fish in the Philippines, violating the Law of the Republic of Philippines, which have been promulgated by the elected officials of and by the Filipino People. Hundreds if not thousands of Chinese illegal fishing incidents have been documented and the Philippine Navy has adopted a 'ram' initiative.

Clearly, one realizes the importance and imperative nature for the Philippines to ascertain its national territorial right and the realization of Manifest Destiny.




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« Reply #35 on: March 04, 2009, 06:48:22 AM »
The Spratleys is sitting above billions upon billions of natural gas reserves.

This is why The United States will not allow China to drill and take hold, this is why the Philippine will not relinquish its claims to the islands; clearly it is of national importance.

And also, the Philippine-claimed and occupied Spratleys fall within the 300 mile National Exclusive Zone Right.

For the Philippines to relinquish its national claim and right is abandon foreign policy. Quite frankly this is the most important foreign policy the Philippines has in its plate. Second to that is the Sabah State.


mmmm. i don't know if that's true. but, i would say, it's because it's strategic.

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« Reply #36 on: March 04, 2009, 07:03:27 AM »
It was reported by ABS-CBN that Chinese Oil Exploration ships were spotted inside the Philippine perimeter Spratly's and even refueled in Palawan. ABS-CBN tried to interview the junior crew, but non of them are able to understand English.

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« Reply #37 on: March 04, 2009, 07:13:47 AM »
Ehem...mga mokong jod ning mga intsek, English lang di pa kamao. May balita ba nga nag build up silag nuclear arms of mass destruction? Siguro kon aduna man galing, guro mga counterfiet ni ug one month lang ang warranty. Ug dili moboto, ibalik aron alisdan ug lain.

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« Reply #38 on: March 04, 2009, 07:24:24 AM »
Hehehe, sakto ka Layman. Basin mock-up missile lang ug dili molupad made of melamine.

Also I don't believe China owns nuclear arms. I think only the former USSR, North Korea, Iran, Pakistan and India are having nuclear program among all Asian countries. Even North Korea is heavily monitored by the US & UN.

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« Reply #39 on: March 04, 2009, 08:18:22 AM »
si buwad kabalo mu-barang.

daghan nas ila sa jagna.

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« Reply #40 on: March 04, 2009, 08:22:53 AM »
Hehehe, sakto ka Layman. Basin mock-up missile lang ug dili molupad made of melamine.

Also I don't believe China owns nuclear arms. I think only the former USSR, North Korea, Iran, Pakistan and India are having nuclear program among all Asian countries. Even North Korea is heavily monitored by the US & UN.

kinsay nasayod, bay mack. kung pwede nila itago ilang gipangsagol sa pagkaon, basin gitagoan pod nila ilang Nukes.

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« Reply #41 on: March 04, 2009, 03:30:31 PM »
It is easy to talk about war Macky.  But imagine, if your family in the Philippines becomes the first one to be bombed.  Before you plan your war, make it sure that you have safe resettlement for 85 million Filipinos.

I cannot believe in this times, people as educated as we are, think very "logical".



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« Reply #42 on: March 04, 2009, 05:14:25 PM »
War can broke in two ways. One party is the invader and one is the defender. This is an instant war as what happened in Pearl Harbour & Kuwait.

The other way is when deplomacy fails and war is the final option. It may be a cold war or a bloody war.

In our case, we have not even made efforts on the deplomatic stage. No one cares putting this issue on the plate.

It seems that our Elected leaders are prioritizing on defending thier position, than defending the country/people they vowed to serve.

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« Reply #44 on: March 04, 2009, 05:18:03 PM »
It is a crime to proliferate a wrong information, my Hungarian professor told me before.
We have existing diplomatic relationship with China, Malaysia, Vietnam  and other countries claiming territory over the Spratlys.
Who told you it is failing?

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« Reply #45 on: March 04, 2009, 05:23:13 PM »
Think about border and territorial conflict of Gaza and of Kashmir?  Was there any long term solution?  Did war solve everything?  and would you like to migrate in Israel with your entire family?

A very very dangerous president would you be if you were one. 

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« Reply #46 on: March 04, 2009, 06:51:24 PM »
A president can not do without mandate of majority, otherwise he is a dictator. The problem in the Philippines now is lack of information and awareness. The majority does'nt even know if Spratly's exists. Others thought it is somewhere in Hawaii because of its American name. If there is an information drive followed by referendum, I am sure the majority will demand claim over Spratlys.

Diplomatic relation and treaty is only a piece of paper if one party disrespects it. In our case, it is. China's fleet are reported to have landed and established a base. They even held Filipino fishermen, accusing them of trespassing (in our own territory?). The fact that it is happening openly in broad daylight only indicates collaborators presently in power.

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« Reply #47 on: March 04, 2009, 09:00:09 PM »
You for example, you do not even know that we do not claim the entire spratly islands, but a portion of it, called Kalayaan Islands.

Still misleading, inaccurate information.

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« Reply #48 on: March 04, 2009, 09:05:02 PM »
War is declared by the president, mandated by the Philippine Congress.  A referendum is not needed.

You know how costly a referendum is? 

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« Reply #49 on: March 04, 2009, 09:06:51 PM »
I know this fact that 300 kms from shoreline is the extent of an island nation's territory. However, China having the most area of the Spratlys is not contented and still wants the whole spratlys. Chinese vessels openly camped inside the 300 km. perimeter of Philippine territory.

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« Reply #50 on: March 05, 2009, 12:09:48 AM »
it's not just the Chinese who claims part of the spratly's. the vietnam, burma and thailand too. why they just don't make it an international collaboration to develop what's in there?

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« Reply #51 on: March 05, 2009, 12:35:09 AM »
it's not just the Chinese who claims part of the spratly's. the vietnam, burma and thailand too. why they just don't make it an international collaboration to develop what's in there?

What is in effect is the International Code of Conduct in the Law of the Sea.
ASEAN and China through dialogue have tried to work out differences to inspect the region, regarding different claimant's rights.

The Philippine Surface Fleet, openly and actively sends sorties to Republican-occupied Kalayaan Group. The Chinese SOCOM also actively sends sorties to its region of control from its bases from Hainan and Guangzhaou. The Vietnamese Navy also sends sorties to protect its territorial claim.

The Malaysian, Indonesian, and Singaporean claimants are not so active in the Spratlys as they claim mostly the southern chain--closer to their zone of control.

The three contending powers--namely, The Republic of the Philippines, People's Republic of China and Vietnam hold on to significant shoals and islands that are large in size.

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« Reply #52 on: March 05, 2009, 12:38:24 AM »
Spratly Islands

The South China Sea is defined by the International Hydrographic Bureau as the body of water stretching in a Southwest to Northeast direction, whose southern border is 3 degrees South latitude between South Sumatra and Kalimantan (Karimata Straits), and whose northern border is the Strait of Taiwan from the northern tip of Taiwan to the Fukien coast of China. The South China Sea region is the world's second busiest international sea lane. More than half of the world's supertanker traffic passes through the region's waters. In addition, the South China Sea region contains oil and gas resources strategically located near large energy-consuming countries.

The South China Sea encompasses a portion of the Pacific Ocean stretching roughly from Singapore and the Strait of Malacca in the southwest, to the Strait of Taiwan (between Taiwan and China) in the northeast. The area includes more than 200 small islands, rocks, and reefs, with the majority located in the Paracel and Spratly Island chains. The Spratlys links the Pacific Ocean and the Indian Ocean. All its islands are coral, low and small, about 5 to 6 meters above water, spread over 160,000 to 180,000 square kilometers of sea zone (or 12 times that of the Paracels), with a total land area of 10 square kilometers only. The Paracels also has a total land area of 10 square kilometers spread over a sea zone of 15,000 to 16,000 square kilometers.

Many of these islands are partially submerged islets, rocks, and reefs that are little more than shipping hazards not suitable for habitation. The islands are important, however, for strategic and political reasons, because ownership claims to them are used to bolster claims to the surrounding sea and its resources.

The South China Sea is rich in natural resources such as oil and natural gas. These resources have garnered attention throughout the Asia-Pacific region. Until recently, East Asia's economic growth rates had been among the highest in the world, and despite the current economic crisis, economic growth prospects in the long-term remain among the best in the world. This economic growth will be accompanied by an increasing demand for energy. Over the next 20 years, oil consumption among developing Asian countries is expected to rise by 4% annually on average, with about half of this increase coming from China. If this growth rate is maintained, oil demand for these nations will reach 25 million barrels per day - more than double current consumption levels -- by 2020.

Almost of all of this additional Asian oil demand, as well as Japan's oil needs, will need to be imported from the Middle East and Africa, and to pass through the strategic Strait of Malacca into the South China Sea. Countries in the Asia-Pacific region depend on seaborne trade to fuel their economic growth, and this has led to the sea's transformation into one of the world's busiest shipping lanes. Over half of the world's merchant fleet (by tonnage) sails through the South China Sea every year. The economic potential and geopolitical importance of the South China Sea region has resulted in jockeying between the surrounding nations to claim this sea and its resources for themselves.

Military skirmishes have occurred numerous times in the past two decades. The most serious occurred in 1976, when China invaded and captured the Paracel Islands from Vietnam, and in 1988, when Chinese and Vietnamese navies clashed at Johnson Reef in the Spratly Islands, sinking several Vietnamese boats and killing over 70 sailors.

The disputed areas often involve oil and gas resources:

    * Indonesia's ownership of the gas-rich Natuna Island group was undisputed until China released an official map indicating that the Natunas were in Chinese-claimed waters.
    * The Philippines' Malampaya and Camago natural gas and condensate fields are in Chinese-claimed waters.
    * Many of Malaysia's natural gas fields located offshore Sarawak also fall under the Chinese claim.
    * Vietnam and China have overlapping claims to undeveloped blocks off the Vietnamese coast. A block referred to by the Chinese as Wan' Bei-21 (WAB-21) west of the Spratly Islands is claimed by the Vietnamese in their blocks 133, 134, and 135. In addition, Vietnam's Dai Hung (Big Bear) oil field is at the boundary of waters claimed by the Chinese.
    * Maritime boundaries in the gas-rich Gulf of Thailand portion of the South China Sea have not been clearly defined. Several companies have been signed exploration agreements but have been unable to drill in a disputed zone between Cambodia and Thailand.

Most of these claims are historical, but they are also based upon internationally accepted principles extending territorial claims offshore onto a country's continental shelf, as well as the 1982 United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea.

The 1982 convention created a number of guidelines concerning the status of islands, the continental shelf, enclosed seas, and territorial limits. Three of the most relevant to the South China Sea are:

   1. Article 3, which establishes that "every state has the right to establish the breadth of its territorial sea up to a limit not exceeding 12 nautical miles";
   2. Articles 55 - 75 define the concept of an Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ), which is an area up to 200 nautical miles beyond and adjacent to the territorial sea. The EEZ gives coastal states "sovereign rights for the purpose of exploring and exploiting, conserving and managing the natural resources, whether living or non-living, of the waters superjacent to" (above) "the seabed and of the seabed and its subsoil..."
   3. Article 121, which states that rocks that cannot sustain human habitation or economic life of their own shall have no exclusive economic zone or continental shelf.

The establishment of the EEZ created the potential for overlapping claims in semi-enclosed seas such as the South China Sea. These claims could be extended by any nation which could establish a settlement on the islands in the region. South China Sea claimants have clashed as they tried to establish outposts on the islands (mostly military) in order to be in conformity with Article 121 in pressing their claims.

In mid-1991, fresh from diplomatic success in helping to end the Cambodian civil war, Indonesia took the initiative in seeking to open multilateral negotiations on competitive South China Sea claims, especially those claims involving jurisdictional disputes over the Spratly Islands. Indonesia has taken a leading role in diplomatic initiatives and cooperative agreements to resolve South China Sea issues, particularly through the ASEAN (Association of Southeast Asian Nations) forum, which has called for the peaceful arbitration of territorial claims. ASEAN includes all South China Sea nations except for China and Taiwan, and has held a number of working groups with China and Taiwan on related issues that have the potential to foster the cooperation and friendship needed to resolve the more contentious issues in the region. Indonesia hosted the first of these workshops in 1990. The ASEAN foreign ministers have reiterated the invitations to all parties directly concerned to subscribe to the principles of the ASEAN Declaration on the South China Sea.

In late 1998 the presidents of China and the Philippines agreed to form a committee of experts to advise on confidence-building measures.

In late November 1999 officials of ASEAN agreed to draft a regional code of conduct to prevent conflicts over the Spratly Islands in advance of the ASEAN summit in Manila. The Philippines, which drafted much of the proposed code, sought to align ASEAN's members in a common stance against what it saw as Chinese expansionism in the Spratlys. China agreed to hold talks with ASEAN member nations on the newly formulated draft code of conduct. But China, which claims the entire South China Sea, signalled it was not ready to agree to the ASEAN draft. Vietnam wanted the code to cover the Paracels while Malaysia did not want the code to refer to all of the South China Sea. China, which is not an ASEAN member and claims all of the islands, opposed inclusion of the Paracels in the code. Australia pressed for the proposed code to include a moratorium on the occupation of reefs and atolls or building on them.

In January 2000 photographs of Mischief Reef in the Spratly Islands were shown to the foreign ministers of the other eight ASEAN countries by Philippine foreign minister, Domingo Siazon. The photographic evidence showed that China had expanded installations on the reef since 1995, when it first started building what it said were shelters for fishermen. There are now four sites on the reef with installations that could be connected to form a fortress, like Gibraltar, or a five-star hotel for fishermen.

Southeast Asian countries, concerned that Beijing might be strengthening its claim to much of the South China Sea, called for restraint and strict observance of international law in a high-level meeting with China in January 2000.

On 04 November 2002 the Governments of the Member States of ASEAN and the Government of the People's Republic of China signed the "Declaration on the Conduct of Parties in the South China Sea." The Parties undertook to exercise self-restraint in the conduct of activities in the South China Sea that would complicate or escalate disputes and affect peace and stability including, among others, refraining from action of inhabiting on the presently uninhabited islands, reefs, shoals, cays, and other features and to handle their differences in a constructive manner.

China and the Philippines have discussed possible joint exploration for petroleum in the disputed Spratly Islands in the South China Sea. The speaker of the Philippine House of Representatives, Jose de Venecia, said the chairman of China's parliament, Wu Bannguo, made the proposal 31 August 2003 during talks in Manila. China also pledged to increase investment in the Philippines. Chinese Foreign Minister Li Zhaoxing vowed to increase investments in the Philippines to match the growing Philippine investment in China. The two ministers also discussed the territorial disputes in the South China Sea.

In September 2003 representatives of the Philippines, China and other claimant countries of the Spratly Islands signed a declaration of peace to promote the development of the resources in the disputed islands. The declaration was signed at the Asian Association of Parliaments for Peace (AAPP) conference in the Philippines.

In March 2005, the national oil companies of China, the Philippines, and Vietnam signed a joint accord to conduct marine seismic experiments in the Spratly Islands for economic purposes.

Suggested confidence-building measures among claimant countries include joint research and development in the Spratlys. Among the suggestions to enhance the development of the Spratly Islands include the creation of a marine park; establishment of a South China Sea Institute for Marine Resources Management, conducting a joint survey and assessment of the mineral and hydrocarbon potential and implementation of maritime safety and surveillance measures.

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« Reply #53 on: March 05, 2009, 12:40:59 AM »

Illustration of the disputed region.

Note that the Philippines is the true contender. The Spratlys are within the proxmity Philippine Space. Due to its shear proxmity to Palawaan, itself. Palawaan, being an integral province of the Republic.

This is why the Republic of the Philippines is active and openly voices concern.
And it has been the judicial expertise of the Philippines and it politicians, that have facilitated dialogue and mutual respect between the Chinese and The Filipino sides.



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« Reply #54 on: March 05, 2009, 12:50:40 AM »
Kalayo ra ang China sa Spratley! From what point did they base with their claims? That the Spratley Group of Islands is within the China Sea? Mao ba ni diay? Gonggong jod ning mga intsek! Hay, uli na la ko Sina, lugi ako negosyo. Hatag na ko kwarta GMA para pati Pinas ako a na pero wa pa gihapoy silbe, Senado o Kongreso harang. Lentsik jod Oi!

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« Reply #55 on: March 05, 2009, 12:58:53 AM »
There should be another thread for this.  We are out of topic.

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« Reply #56 on: March 05, 2009, 01:02:10 AM »
From Villa Escudero to Spratley? Sus lajo a ra kaajo.

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« Reply #57 on: March 05, 2009, 01:17:32 AM »
From Villa Escudero to Spratley? Sus lajo a ra kaajo.

ang mga escudero ug mga spratley paryente ra na sila, layman. hahahaha

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« Reply #58 on: March 05, 2009, 01:19:15 AM »
Mga kadugo ni sila sa mga Resort family!

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Tungod man gud na storyang gira-gira.. sa amoa pa ni, storya ilawum dagat!

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« Reply #60 on: March 05, 2009, 01:25:18 AM »
Abi kog usa sa mga platforms ni Chez kining claim sa Spratley. Kuyog kuyog na lang ko ari sa tumoy. Pastilan ang housekeeper aning thread wa man mobadlong nga nasalaag naman diay ni. Maayo pag gira kay nakatarget na sa enemy line ang mga armies, diri tira tira pasagad lang oi! Sus, tarungon na ni nato, please.

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« Reply #61 on: March 05, 2009, 01:32:45 AM »
ang VILLA ESCUDERO naa na sa SPratlys island.. mao na

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« Reply #62 on: March 05, 2009, 02:07:15 AM »
Abi kog usa sa mga platforms ni Chez kining claim sa Spratley. Kuyog kuyog na lang ko ari sa tumoy. Pastilan ang housekeeper aning thread wa man mobadlong nga nasalaag naman diay ni. Maayo pag gira kay nakatarget na sa enemy line ang mga armies, diri tira tira pasagad lang oi! Sus, tarungon na ni nato, please.

tua nay gigama si lorenzo, bay layman, nga bag-ong thread. adto ta mag-gyera. hahaha

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« Reply #63 on: March 05, 2009, 02:22:02 AM »
For those who are interested in discussing the Philippine Sovereignty regarding the Spratly's as well as the Sabah State, I made a thread, and any and all comments regarding the specificity of the claims, military scenarios, are all welcome.

It is interesting to see the different points of view regarding the said topic, as it validates the concern of the Filipino to the integrity, continuity, and solidarity of the Philippine Fatherland, its territories within and without.

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« Reply #64 on: March 05, 2009, 04:08:33 AM »
ang Villa Escudero tua na sa Laguna it's a beautiful place daghan ang moanhang turista, kalayo raba ang Spratlys sa Villa Escudero ui!

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« Reply #65 on: March 05, 2009, 06:24:34 AM »
Mao ni ang official website in Chez Escudero: http://www.chizescudero.com/

Forum site gihapon ni pareha sa TB.

Ig unsa kaha ni si Chez Escudero ni Esteban Escudero ug ni Goliat?

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« Reply #66 on: March 05, 2009, 08:03:22 AM »
Mao ni ang official website in Chez Escudero: http://www.chizescudero.com/

Forum site gihapon ni pareha sa TB.

Ig unsa kaha ni si Chez Escudero ni Esteban Escudero ug ni Goliat?

di ko mobotar aning Chez Escudero bisan pa'g pakapinan ni Teban ug Goliath.

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« Reply #67 on: March 05, 2009, 02:32:10 PM »
ako sad dili mobotar kay Escudero, naay pagkahambug publicity lang kanunay kunwari supak supak para lang mapansin sa sambayanan.

kung pagpilion ko kay Aumentado og Escudero maayo pa si Aumentado maskin og dili pa ilado tibuok Pilipinas at least daghan pa og nahimo sa Bohol. diehard kay concrete na among kalsada karon.

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« Reply #68 on: March 07, 2009, 02:14:04 AM »
ok ra cya pang senador. ayaw na president. intawn.

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« Reply #69 on: March 07, 2009, 02:57:29 AM »
ok ra cya pang senador. ayaw na president. intawn.

bitaw, maau pa si Aumentado kaysa iyaha. dili jud ko mobotar pagkapresident og molansar sya.

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« Reply #70 on: March 13, 2009, 07:15:30 PM »
amoa ng spratley. ajaw na lang mog angkon-angkon diha para way mga kilay mangalarot.

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« Reply #71 on: March 24, 2009, 10:47:38 AM »
Calle, pasugura na ug kampanya si Chiz Escudero. Dili  bawal karon
mangampanya kay wala  pa man siya naka file ug certificate of candidacy.
Nakita mo gabii saTVpatrol ,daghang nang streamers is Jejomar Binay sa
Manila, for president.

Mao ne bag-o karon. Pwede na mangampanya bisan ug dili pa campaign
period matod sa COMELEC.

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The Commission on Elections on Friday said commercials of possible presidential candidates in the 2010 elections are not a form of early campaigning but are meant to gauge voters' preferences ahead of next year's polls.

Comelec Chairman Jose Melo said the commercials are meant to raise awareness of the politicians among the public. He also said candidates for the 2010 polls are only allowed to campaign three months before the elections.

He said violators of Comelec's rules and regulations will be sanctioned.

A Pulse Asia survey earlier showed Filipinos remain undecided on their presidential candidate for 2010 but seem to be clear—for now—about their vice-presidential and top senatorial bets.

Dr. Ana Maria Tabunda, Pulse Asia chief research fellow, said in a press statement the results of the February 2009 Ulat ng Bayan national survey conducted from February 2 to 15, 2009, indicate that if elections were held today, it would be a toss-up among the top aspirants.

“No clear winner would emerge in the presidential race if the May 2010 elections were held today. If the May 2010 elections were conducted now, it would be a very close race, with four probable candidates enjoying nearly the same overall voter preferences,” Tabunda said.

The top candidates as of now, based on the survey, are Vice President Noli de Castro (19 percent), Sen. Francis Escudero (17 percent), former President Joseph Estrada (16 percent), and Sen. Manuel  Villar Jr. (15 percent).

Sen. Loren Legarda is at fifth place, with 12 percent of voters’ preference.

Others included in the survey on presidential candidates are Sens. Manuel Roxas II (8 percent) and Panfilo Lacson (6 percent), Makati City Mayor Jejomar Binay (2 percent), and Metropolitan Manila Development Authority Chairman Bayani Fernando (1 percent).



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« Reply #73 on: March 24, 2009, 11:42:58 AM »
bitaw, maau pa si Aumentado kaysa iyaha. dili jud ko mobotar pagkapresident og molansar sya.

count me in, di ko ganahan ni escudero jud.  sige ra na ug kontra, why not just do what he is supposed to do for the good of his constituents, rather than reklamo left and right then ang iyang time nahurot sa reklamo.

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« Reply #74 on: March 24, 2009, 12:15:04 PM »
wa man jud na syay nahimo. maayo lang sya manulti pero way buhat.

walk the talk, honorable senator.

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Calle, pasugura na ug kampanya si Chiz Escudero. Dili  bawal karon
mangampanya kay wala  pa man siya naka file ug certificate of candidacy.
Nakita mo gabii saTVpatrol ,daghang nang streamers is Jejomar Binay sa
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Mao ne bag-o karon. Pwede na mangampanya bisan ug dili pa campaign
period matod sa COMELEC.

KOn mangampanya ka karon, wala kay violation kay wala pa man ka file sa
imong certificate of candidacy. "Wala man ko nangampanya , nag pa expose
lang ko".
 

dili ko mangampanya nia sir daray.

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« Reply #77 on: March 24, 2009, 12:24:50 PM »
Bag-o nga team: Panlilio- Padaca, karon pa ko nakadungog ani.

Based on survey,  si Noli ang nag-una. Dugay ra nangampanya
in form of expose sa TV.

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« Reply #78 on: March 24, 2009, 12:26:09 PM »
the panlilio-padaca tandem was all over the national papers since sunday, i think.

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« Reply #79 on: March 24, 2009, 12:31:11 PM »
panlilio mao ba na ang pari?  kinsa man ng padaca wa man ko kadungog ana

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« Reply #80 on: March 24, 2009, 12:33:24 PM »
panlilio mao ba na ang pari?  kinsa man ng padaca wa man ko kadungog ana

panlilio (priest) currently governor ng Pampanga. grace padaca (gurl) currently governor ng Isabela

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New team: Panlilio-Padaca, karon pa ko kadungog ani.
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Panlilio eyes presidency

Seeks run with Isabela gov; backers up

By Tina Arceo-Dumlao
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First Posted 00:16:00 03/22/2009


MANILA, Philippines – This early, pledges from overseas are coming in for Pampanga Governor Ed Panlilio.

An elderly gentleman has expressed his intention to part with $100 from his budget for hypertension and diabetes medicine. A Filipino in New York is also putting in $100, and another is contributing $5.

A member of the Philippine Military Academy Class of 1983 has pledged an initial $100. A contract worker in Jordan is investing $1,000.

Pledges like these from ordinary Filipinos clamoring for good governance and willing to put their money where their mouth is are serving to encourage Panlilio to seriously consider seeking the presidency in 2010, with Isabela Governor Grace Padaca as his running mate.

“I am open to taking up the challenge,” Panlilio told the Philippine Daily Inquirer Saturday in an interview at the newspaper’s main office in Makati City.

The Catholic priest-on-leave said that while he was still in “a period of discernment,” he had taken steps to get civil society groups, non-government organizations, and even military officials together and gather support for a reform candidate.

“I will go for whoever will represent a genuine reform constituency,” he said. “It does not necessarily have to be me. If there is a more appropriate candidate, why will I present myself? I look at my role now as more of one of the convenors of a genuine reform coalition.”


Biggest issue: Corruption

Panlilio said he had been telling various groups “that we should have one reform candidate; otherwise, we will get a president that we do not like.”

He said he had to help solidify a reform movement for 2010 because he believed that Filipinos were desperately seeking candidates who were not steeped in traditional politics and were willing to stamp out graft and corruption.

“Corruption is the biggest issue of the 2010 elections. People are tired of it and it is really the reason behind all of our problems,” he said.

Panlilio said he had realized that he would face an uphill climb if he decided to run for president.

But he said his spirits were buoyed by the expressions of support from diverse groups committed to devote not only time and effort but also money to his and Padaca’s campaign.


Big backer

One such supporter is former Chinatrust Philippines president Joey A. Bermudez, who told the Inquirer, parent company of INQUIRER.net, in a separate interview that he would actively campaign for Panlilio and Padaca and would help raise funds for their campaign.

“I will support them because they represent a different kind of politics. They are the right candidates because they are reform-minded and they have the actual hands-on experience in running their local governments,” said Bermudez, current president of the Management Association of the Philippines.

“They are not just mouthing off theories,” he said.

Bermudez said he would not back any of the names being floated as possible presidential candidates because they were “traditional politicians.”

“I would not put the future of the country in their hands,” said Bermudez, who was active in the late Raul Roco’s campaign for the presidency in 2004.

“The 2010 election presents another opportunity for us to correct mistakes,” he said.


Ifugao gov’s support

Also supporting Panlilio is Ifugao Gov. Teodoro B. Baguilat Jr., who expressed the belief that a “silent majority” would come out in 2010 to vote for a reform candidate.

Baguilat, who may also seek reelection as governor in 2010, said he was taking a risk by supporting Panlilio.

But he is convinced that it is the right thing for him to do.

“As corny or as cliché as it may sound, I am doing this for the country,” said Baguilat, who is actively gathering financial, technical and even moral support for Panlilio and Padaca.

“I am helping lay the groundwork for their campaign. The dynamics should work itself out later on,” he said, adding:

“I am really just tired of hearing people say that they are tired of corruption and yet do not do anything about it. Now, I am asking people to be part of the campaign and not just complain.”

Baguilat, like Panlilio and Padaca, is a member of Kaya Natin!, a movement that seeks to propagate the gospel of good governance.

Among the other members are Mayor Jesse Robredo of Naga City and Mayor Sonia Lorenzo of San Isidro, Nueva Ecija.


Alternative to ‘trapo’

Early in 2007, Panlilio, then 53 and backed by a ragtag army of volunteers, campaigned for the governorship of Pampanga as an alternative to traditional politicians.

He defeated the incumbent governor, Mark Lapid, and provincial board member Lilia Pineda, wife of alleged “jueteng” lord Rodolfo “Bong” Pineda.

He won over Pineda by only 1,147 votes.

Panlilio spent 26 years in the priesthood. He decided to cease performing priestly duties in March 2007 to run against Lapid and Pineda.

Just a month after assuming office after the May 2007 elections, Panlilio was able to collect for Pampanga P29.4 million from quarry operations on volcanic ash from Mt. Pinatubo.

It took his predecessor one year to collect about the same amount.

In October 2007, Panlilio told the media that he was handed a paper bag containing P500,000 right after a meeting between President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo and local officials in Malacañang.

The distribution of money was suspected as a move by Malacañang to drum up support for the dismissal of an impeachment complaint against her.


Recall election

Panlilio, who was named the Inquirer Filipino of the Year for 2007, has lately faced a challenge.

In October 2008, the group Kapanalig at Kambilan ning Memalen Pampanga Inc. filed a petition for a recall election to unseat him.

The petition was anchored on four cases – the complaint of two workers terminated for alleged corruption in quarry fee collection; Panlilio’s refusal to enforce an ordinance that would ease restrictions on quarry tax collections and increase mayors’ access to these funds; a perjury case; and a case against Panlilio’s decision to change the assignments of district hospital heads.

But last February, a budget-deficient Commission on Elections ruled that the holding of a recall election might no longer be possible.

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« Reply #83 on: March 24, 2009, 12:45:57 PM »
i google na lang will. padaca is a recipient of the magsaysay award for govenment service. she was the woman who put down the Dy dynasty in isabela.

panlilio was PDI's filipino of the year in 2007. the priest who defeated mark lapid and baby pineda.

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« Reply #84 on: March 24, 2009, 01:08:24 PM »
calle if u don't mind asa ka nakabase karon?  naa man gud ko friend nagtxt nko nga naa kuno napoy gipatay sa tagbilaran, kano kuno, williams ang apelyido, sa ubos kuno sa NFA, di ba may daghang resorts man dinha sugod sa kang soliven nga resto

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« Reply #85 on: March 24, 2009, 01:45:25 PM »
I like Miriam D Santiago.  But she would never win.  Voters prefer a pretty face to an honest mouth.

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« Reply #86 on: March 24, 2009, 02:02:36 PM »
I like Miriam D Santiago.  But she would never win.  Voters prefer a pretty face to an honest mouth.

I like also Mirriam Santiago.  She deserves to become President in RP.

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« Reply #87 on: March 25, 2009, 12:17:19 PM »
calle if u don't mind asa ka nakabase karon?  naa man gud ko friend nagtxt nko nga naa kuno napoy gipatay sa tagbilaran, kano kuno, williams ang apelyido, sa ubos kuno sa NFA, di ba may daghang resorts man dinha sugod sa kang soliven nga resto

im based in manila, will. mao ba? wala ko kadungog ini. na bitaw mga resorts diha dapita. accident prone area na diha, basin nabunggoan lang, wa toyoa ug patay. please verify.

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« Reply #88 on: March 25, 2009, 02:38:55 PM »
Wala si Panlillio mailhi. Labaw na si Padaca.
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« Reply #90 on: March 25, 2009, 06:49:17 PM »
Wala si Panlillio mailhi. Labaw na si Padaca.
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They already known in Luzon pero sa Visayas og Mindanao wala pa jud sila mailhi.




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Re: Francis Chiz Escudero as Philippine President in 2010?
« Reply #91 on: March 27, 2009, 03:50:10 PM »
i think i will vote for Chiz if ever he runs.

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Re: Francis Chiz Escudero as Philippine President in 2010?
« Reply #92 on: March 27, 2009, 03:58:26 PM »
please don't.

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Re: Francis Chiz Escudero as Philippine President in 2010?
« Reply #93 on: March 29, 2009, 01:18:10 PM »
hahahah may please jud calle?  kinsa man angayan iboto diay gawas ni chiz?

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Re: Francis Chiz Escudero as Philippine President in 2010?
« Reply #94 on: March 30, 2009, 12:11:55 PM »
si among ed panlilio siguro, ma'am will. murag sya ray dili trapo.

the system, i think, has eaten mar roxas' once non-trapo image.

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Re: Francis Chiz Escudero as Philippine President in 2010?
« Reply #95 on: March 30, 2009, 12:30:09 PM »
mudagan diay pod si mar roxas?  hoi unsay mam gud mamsa?  ajaw tigmam diha kay wa angay lolz

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Re: Francis Chiz Escudero as Philippine President in 2010?
« Reply #96 on: March 30, 2009, 03:33:42 PM »
yep, sya yata standard bearer sa liberal party.

unsa man, sir na lang?

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Re: Francis Chiz Escudero as Philippine President in 2010?
« Reply #97 on: March 31, 2009, 02:13:10 AM »
I'd rather vote Lauren than Cheese

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Re: Francis Chiz Escudero as Philippine President in 2010?
« Reply #98 on: March 31, 2009, 04:21:29 AM »
I will give chance to Chez as I support the young generation. Incase he will show some dirty politics, I will vote for Bro Eddie Villanueva.

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Re: Francis Chiz Escudero as Philippine President in 2010?
« Reply #99 on: March 31, 2009, 01:55:51 PM »
tatakbo ba uli si bro eddie? tsk.. tsk... ano ba naman walang kadala-dala hahaha

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