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The Spanish Soldier in the Philippines
« on: June 09, 2008, 07:45:59 AM »
Some pictures of Spanish Troops in Las Islas Filipinas; circa late 19th century.




May 17, 1892:   Spanish troops at mass honoring King Alfonso XIII on his birthday.



Filipino soldiers of the Guardia Civil (The colonial constabulary force that Spain created); the Spanish colonial government depended on Filipino soldiers to fill in the ranks; usually commanded by a Spanish officer. The Guardia Civil was the Philippine version of Britain's 'Sepoys' of India.



Spaniards, resting and having mass in a local Catholic Church in the island of Jolo.



Marching in Manila

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Re: The Spanish Soldier in the Philippines
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2008, 03:13:33 AM »
its awe inspiring to see such pictures at this time.

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Re: The Spanish Soldier in the Philippines
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2008, 02:08:27 AM »
There is a massive collection of pictures of Spain's former Filipina colony in the Museum of History in Madrid. Ive read only limited copies of Spanish diaries of soldiers that were stationed in the Philippines during the early mid late 19th century.

What I am really interested in is to get my hands on primary documents of Spanish or Philippine diaries of the 18th century or even in the 16th century.

The 18th century was the heaviest transitional period. There is so much history that needs to be uncovered, so much of which are in Spanish archives. Perhaps, hopefully, in the not too distant future Spanish and Filipino historians can cooperate together to write a completely unbiased historical analysis of Filipino History from the 16th to the 20th centuries.

Many of the rich documents that are in Spain still remain in the original Spanish vernacular and many have not been translated into English or in the Tagalog vernacular.

There is still so much to uncover. So much to learn and understand.



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Re: The Spanish Soldier in the Philippines
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2008, 02:26:16 AM »
are they (documents) really shown to the public? it seems inappropriate because that's something that needs to be preserve because of it's historical value.

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Re: The Spanish Soldier in the Philippines
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2008, 03:11:11 AM »
That is what I'm rather bitter towards Spain about, amigo. I wish the Filipino ambassador would demand the Spanish delegation to open up and share its historical archives to the Philippines. There are literally thousands upon thousands of written legal documents, church writings, diaries, Filipino artifacts that are in Spain to this day. Many are stored in their museums, the Royal Palace and collected as treasures.

Spain has to understand that Colonial Filipinas is not just a token of Spanish history, but IS an integral part of Filipino history, Filipino national identity, and Filipino solidarity.

Spain, as the colonizer who imbedded us Filipinos with their culture, needs to share and open up its archives. As both the Philippines and Spain share almost 500 years of common history. The Philippines, as well with Mexico also share 250 years of common history.

There was once a time when the Philippines was part of Nueva Espana (New Spain). Which constituted what is now modern day Mexico, California, Texas, Nevada, New Mexico, Arizona, The Philippines, Guam, Mariana Islands.

There are thousands, if not millions of written documents of the political construct of 'Neuva Espana' that are in the archives of Spain.

This is why it is essential that we uncover these documents and have access to archives because it would provide a wide explanation of how the Philippines was before Hispanicum. As Spanish conquistadores and exploratory monks were known to document the civilizations of peoples before assimilation. The did this in Latin America, and South America. I am sure that they have countless primary sources on the Philippines. Absolutely sure of it. Why else would they feel compelled in necessitizing the 'Christianization' of the entire archipelago?

That means that there was some kind of greater or equal culture in the archipelago before Hispanization. They forbid the use of the indigenous writing systems, the use of indigenous metallurgy, and warrior culture. Something was there before them. And we know very little about it; only by comparing with neighboring cultures in Malaysia and Indonesia. Instead of comparing and learning malaysian or indonesian history, why not read from the archives of the Spaniards instead? How can we expect to move forward when we, as a people, don't even have a full understanding of our own history? Or prevented from learning the entire history?





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Re: The Spanish Soldier in the Philippines
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2008, 05:01:23 AM »
i doubt it since it will reveal the truth that they are hiding.

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Re: The Spanish Soldier in the Philippines
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2009, 01:31:28 PM »
The Spanish Army was not only made up of Spaniards but of it's various colonies. In 1780, several regiments were sent from México (Nueva España) to defend Manila from a British invasion. The list comprises soldiers of México, Peru, France, Italy, and even Ireland! Perhaps some may have been mercenaries. A few even came from pre-U.S. México (Los Angeles, Albuquerque).
Some may assume that their ancestors came from Spain when they may have actually came from México or another colony. Apparently, the Roxas family roots are actually from México. I discussed this with another Filipino and he said his friend has Mexican ancestry.

http://www.somosprimos.com/hough/hough.htm#Philippines



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Re: The Spanish Soldier in the Philippines
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2009, 10:21:54 AM »
Joe-g,

The soldier-conscripts that served in the Fuerza/ Guardia Civil were mostly Spanish Peninsulares, after the Peninsular War.
The Spanish soldiers that were sent to the Philippines prior to the Peninsular War were mostly white-Spaniards that were raised in Neuva Espana and La Plata.

The Spanish soldiers based in the Philippines, rarely, ever went back to Spain or their respected lands of birth (Nueva Mexico etc), rather chose to spend their lives in the Philippines. Marrying into local women.



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Re: The Spanish Soldier in the Philippines
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2009, 05:44:35 PM »
diri ra jud ko nakakita unsay hitsura sa ilang uniform :)

Ingon man gud akong mga grandparents nga naa ko'y lahi nga spanish

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Re: The Spanish Soldier in the Philippines
« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2009, 04:00:52 AM »
Mexico, afterall, was then known as Nueva Espana and was the largest Viceroyalty outside of the Spanish central core. The Philippines were part of the administrative responsibilities of Nueva Espana prior to the outbreak of the Peninsulare War and before Mexico's declaration of independence from the Spanish Empire of the Kingdom of Spain.



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