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« on: April 04, 2008, 05:47:43 AM »
The Regal, and Lethal Weapon of the Filipino

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« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2008, 05:51:05 AM »

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« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2008, 05:53:07 AM »
Is this yours, Kiams?

Wow, i like the intricate design sa handle.

We have a Kriss in our house sa Bohol, belonged to my Papa Titing.
The Kriss is almost 2 feet long. Could easily cut a man in half.

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« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2008, 06:07:57 AM »
not mine.. from a fellow istoryan lang..what is another name of kriss?

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« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2008, 06:41:44 AM »
Kriss is known as 'Keris' in the Malay dialect.

In Java, the cradle of the Malay Race, the Kriss is known as the Golok.


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« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2008, 06:54:58 AM »
I have read some article from excerpts from a 14th century European voyager's log book describing an event during a battle between Dutch and Malays. A malay weapon was described as made from a meteorite metal core with a silver handle and it says it can easily cut a gun barrel or slice through thick metal armour. The name of the weapon is "Keris".
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« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2008, 07:01:52 AM »
In what is present day Yogyokarta, which is on the periphery of present day Jakarta, Indonesia, there are goloks that are almost 1000 years old.

Unlike the malays of the philippines, malacca (peninsular malaysia) and borneo, the malays of Java were very refined in art and culture. Java was the heart of two major malay empires: sri vijaya, majapahit. One of the major cultural practices of the malays in java were the production of refined weaponry, and hinduistic-buddhist temples.

The Golok (keris/kriss) was the standard weapon the Emperors and Kings of the Srivijayan and Majapahit Empires fielded to battle.

Here is a typical Javanese Golok.
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the following is a royal standard, known as the tandok golok. Styled by Rajas in Java:
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« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2008, 07:05:35 AM »

Mr. Ferniz,

That is one of the many reasons why Spanish conquistadores did not venture far south of charted territories in Mindanao. The Spaniard's armour were easily penetrated by the Moro warrior's Kriss.

In fact, many moro warriors wore spanish armoured helmets, which they retrieved from the decapitated Spaniards. The Kriss is a very clean and swift sword, if properly sharpened and handled accordingly, can decapitate a man with one swift stroke.


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« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2008, 07:06:06 AM »
Demonstration on how to use the Kriss. Witness the speed and grace.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HhJU-UxTLg

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« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2008, 07:18:46 AM »
Straight Kris: If you want to purchase one just order from this site: http://traditionalfilipinoweapons.com/

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« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2008, 08:58:39 AM »
Since Mackz posted a thread about samurai,I found interest with swords.Huh,ngano kaha?

But promise I won't collect even a single katana.

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« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2008, 11:48:29 AM »

The razor-like design of the Kriss has a beauty to it. Due to that design, it is able to impact greater force onto an opponent, thereby easily crushing and slicing through bone as compared to a straight edged sword.

The Kriss is known for its clean cut, and it was used heavily by Moros to decapitate enemies.

Death comes quick to anyone who is struck by a kriss.

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« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2008, 06:15:16 PM »
From the eye of the Westerners and the Europeans, we look cool with our tatoos, head gears, colorful embroidered chalikos, bling-bling ornaments and of course the package is not complete without the Kriss.

Imagine someone wearing like these and posing in men's fashion magazine. Isn't it cool?


Further, I remembered reading one article before that during the Spanish occupation, any native weapon is banned. Hence, to keep their passion and skills of sword fighting, the natives of Cebu and Bohol keep up the tradition by replacing it with sticks and called the new artform "Eskerima". It became popular as a form of dance during fiestas and later evolved into what is now called "doce - pares" means "twelve pairs" because there are 12 pairs of steps as the basic. It looks like martial arts, but it is a choreographed traditional dance with 12 steps as basic.

This artform is handed down from generation to generation and until now it is still practiced in Cebu and some parts in Bohol. The last teacher of this artform is "Kikoy" from Cebu who established a school and now flourished that this artform is recognized internationally.

When I was a kid, I've seen one in Baclayon, I forgot his name. He is an old man and he will stand balancing on 2 coconut shells and challenge you to a stick fight. He will say, OK if you can hit my body or topple me from where I stand (2 coconut shells), you will become a master. My friend tried hitting him hard and fast, but all his blows are intercepted with great speed and that old man have good balance.

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« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2008, 10:00:31 PM »
kuya mack kadto pud weapon nga yoyo..

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« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2008, 11:56:29 PM »

Mr. Ferniz,

I don't know much about Eskrima; but I know it is very popular over here in the 'states. I knew it came from the Philippines but never knew that it originated from the Visayas. Amazing; we Bisayans truly are a warrior-like people.

Is eskrima similar to the Indonesian martial arts known as Pencang Silat? In Pencang Silat, they use the Golok (keris/kriss) in fastidious motion. It is disarmingly beautiful how it is practiced.

Thanks for sharing, Mr. Ferniz.

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« Reply #15 on: April 12, 2008, 12:03:39 AM »
Oy! kakuyaw ba ug mga porma anang mga hinagibana na, makalisang!
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« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2008, 07:38:59 PM »

I also read that article that the Yoyo once was a weapon and not a toy. It was used by Lapu-lapu's men during the battle of Mactan to defeat Magellan. Made of heavy circular disc metal or stone and tied with a rope, when thrown to the oponent, it comes back immediately upon hitting.

Magellan's men saw this ingenious gadget and mimiced it on wood. It became a toy and called it "Yo-yo" means "me-me" in Spanish because it will come back to the user.


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« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2008, 07:52:22 PM »
From the eye of the Westerners and the Europeans, we look cool with our tatoos, head gears, colorful embroidered chalikos, bling-bling ornaments and of course the package is not complete without the Kriss.

Imagine someone wearing like these and posing in men's fashion magazine. Isn't it cool?


Further, I remembered reading one article before that during the Spanish occupation, any native weapon is banned. Hence, to keep their passion and skills of sword fighting, the natives of Cebu and Bohol keep up the tradition by replacing it with sticks and called the new artform "Eskerima". It became popular as a form of dance during fiestas and later evolved into what is now called "doce - pares" means "twelve pairs" because there are 12 pairs of steps as the basic. It looks like martial arts, but it is a choreographed traditional dance with 12 steps as basic.

This artform is handed down from generation to generation and until now it is still practiced in Cebu and some parts in Bohol. The last teacher of this artform is "Kikoy" from Cebu who established a school and now flourished that this artform is recognized internationally.

When I was a kid, I've seen one in Baclayon, I forgot his name. He is an old man and he will stand balancing on 2 coconut shells and challenge you to a stick fight. He will say, OK if you can hit my body or topple me from where I stand (2 coconut shells), you will become a master. My friend tried hitting him hard and fast, but all his blows are intercepted with great speed and that old man have good balance.

Mr. Ferniz,

I don't know much about Eskrima; but I know it is very popular over here in the 'states. I knew it came from the Philippines but never knew that it originated from the Visayas. Amazing; we Bisayans truly are a warrior-like people.

Is eskrima similar to the Indonesian martial arts known as Pencang Silat? In Pencang Silat, they use the Golok (keris/kriss) in fastidious motion. It is disarmingly beautiful how it is practiced.

Thanks for sharing, Mr. Ferniz.
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The Visayan's were constantly under threat from the Dutch and Indonesian marauder's, thus over time, they develop weapons and skills to defend themselves.

While during that time, slave trade were in full operation in the island of Java and Sumatra, our ancestors do whatever it takes to defend their teritories.

We, the freedom loving people refused to succumb over slavery.

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« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2008, 11:21:18 PM »
I never thought about it that way, Mr. Ferniz.

But you bring out a good point; since time immemorial we were always under attack from pirates and foreign invaders. From southern Malays, the Moros, to the westerners.

But we survived, and we preserved our way of life.

It never ceases to amaze me.

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