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Filipinos in Mexican History: A Shared History
« on: December 15, 2007, 07:12:35 AM »
In dedication to the sons of the Beloved Philippine Fatherland---who braved the hard seas and were sent to the Viceroyalty of Nueva Espana (Mexico) to work as mercenaries, and hired hands. Their contribution to the Mexican Revolution and Independence is invaluable.


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The role played by Filipinos — or strictly speaking, Filipino-Mexicans, in Mexico’s struggle for independence is largely ignored by most historians. Ricardo Pinzon, an English teacher from a college in Acapulco, maintains the Filipinos were very visible in this struggle.


In fact, according to Pinzon, two Filipinos became brigade commanders in the army of General Jose Maria Morelos in the state of Guerrero in the Pacific Coast of Mexico from 1810 to 1821.

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Mexico’s fight for independence from Spain was started by a priest, Fr. Miguel Hidalgo in Dolores in 1810. Morelos picked up the fight in Western Mexico and recruited about 200 Filipino-Mexicans to join his army. The Filipinos were placed under the command of General Vicente Guerrero, who later became the first black president of Mexico.

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The Filipino brigade commanders under General Guerrero were identified by Ric Pinzon as Francisco Mongoy and Isidoro Montes de Oca. They distinguished themselves in battles against government troops that in Guerrero they are regarded as folk heroes.

When Guerrero finally surrendered in 1829, he was accompanied by two Filipinos acting as his aides, Miguel de la Cruz and a certain Atieh.

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Ric Pinzon traveled from Acapulco to Mexico City for our interview. A great fan of the Filipinos and their contribution to Mexico’s growth as a nation, he is writing a book on the Filipino presence in his country, a fact largely ignored by historians.

Filipino sailors on the Manila galleons had been traveling to Mexico between 1570 and 1815. Many of them married local girls and settled in Mexico.

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By Pinzon’s estimate, there are about 200,000 descendants of Filipinos in southern Mexico. They are concentrated in the Costa Grande north of Acapulco. The town of Coyuca 35 miles north of Acapulco was called Filipino town in the old days. There is also a large Filipino community in Colima, about eight hours ride north of Acapulco.

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Pinzon says three former governors of Guerrero, where Acapulco is located, may have Filipino ancestry. Juan Alvarez, born in Espinalillo, a Filipino colony, became president of Mexico. His son, Juan Alvarez, became governor of Guerrero in the 1870s.

Alejandro Gomez Maganda figured in the 1910 Revolution and also became governor of Guerrero in the 1940s.

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Filipino influence on Mexican culture is very apparent, especially on Mexico’s Pacific Coast, where people today continue to imbibe tuba, the drink derived from the coconut tree. They are also engage in games like kite-flying which they make with papel de China. Their names for their fishing boats is panga, which they suspect is of Filipino origin.

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In the 18th century, the Manila galleons were attacked by pirates from England and the Netherlands. To fight them off, the Spanish authorities created a small army of Filipinos called the chino brigade in Acapulco. A total of 108 galleons were built in the Philippines during two and a half centuries of its existence. Four were captured by pirates and about 30 were sunk by typhoons.

The trade ended when the Mexican independence movement began in 1810. The last galleon to reach Acapulco was the Magallanes.

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Tales of Two Sisters: Manila and Mexico
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2007, 07:17:08 AM »
Highlights from the Mexican-Philippine Historical Relations Seminar
New York City- June 21, 1997

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Panel headed by Gemma Guerrero Cruz (Miss International 68), MA , Universidad Nacional Autonoma de Mexico, and the Philippines Centennial Commission Representative in Mexico.
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1. Manila Galleon Trade connection and the cultural by-product. The seeds of Filipinos grew throughout the coast of Mexico when the Filipinos crew stayed in Acapulco for three months prior to their return to Manila. Sailors kept families in both cities.

2. Summary of her position paper. A notable development of the Galleon Trade was the cultural interchange between the two colonies. What Filipinos today regard as a Spanish influence in food, language, and customs, may in fact be Mexican in origin. The Tagalog word “palengke”, for example, may have originated from the Mexican “palenque”. The Philippines also adopted the Mexican monetary standard, the peso. In exchange, Mexico got the Philippine mango and Chinese silk, a highly prized commodity in Mexico in the 18th & 19th centuries. Lace-making was a skill that traversed the Pacific from Asia and is still an industry today in Olinalia, Mexico.

3. Aculturation gave rise to many cultural elements such as the Nahuatlismos in Philippine speech, the "TUBA" drink or the devotion to the Santo Nino de Sibuu (Cebu). Filipinos introduced the art of making the coconut wine as well . Words of Nahuati origin were assimilated in the Filipino language. These include achuete, atole, avocado, balsa, bangueta, cacahuete, cacao, caimito, calabaza, camachile, camote, calachuche, chico,. chocolate, coyote, nana(y), tata(y), tiangui, tocayo, zacate, and zapote.

4. The Philippine revolution or the Anti-colonial revolution (the name Gemma prefers) that led to June 12, 1898. After discussing this, she challenged the Fil-am audience to study the period 1899 and beyond since the American involvement started. It started with the coming of the American forces composed of volunteers from various states of the US. This explained the names of the various streets crossing the avenues in Malate district like North Dakota, Tennessee, Colorado, etc. All these streets were renamed after the independence date was moved to June 12.

5. One of the Mexican panel members, Cutberto Hernandez Legorreta states in his position abstract, " Very significant to us is the slave, baptized Enrique, who had been recruited somewhere in the Moluccas, bought by Magellan, taken to Lisbon, then to South America, and finally to the Marianas. He was the First man who circumnavigated the earth. He was helped by the Ladron islanders. (Marianas Islander or Chamorros) in the course of the well-known circumnavigation. Later, Enrique came in handy in Cebu for the Spaniards as he was likewise conversant with the Philippine Islanders. It would seem that this might be the first notice on record linking the Chamorros with the Malayan Filipinos. It was later observed the Chamorros, like the Philippine natives, were rice grower, while other Micronesians were not."

6. It is funny that two cultures dominated by Spanish language were communicating in a third language. 7. The story of TUBA brings back memories of my adolescence in the Philippines. On my third drink of "tuba," I could tell the world that the most beautiful women came from the Philippines; Gemma and other Filipinas who won international beauty pageants proved that long time ago. After I’d lose count of my "Tuba" drinks, I could ask the moon if she saw my great-great-grandfather "Enrique" going around the planet in 1521; the panel showed a slide of a composite picture of Enrique and he looks like one of our kind.

8. Memorial names of streets, buildings, and squares change as interpretation of history are re-written. Plaza Bonifacio along the Metro Theatre and Post office building near City Hall used to be called Plaza Lawton. General Henry W Lawton was credited for the capture of the great Apache Chief Geronimo. Like most of the American army officer who fought in the Indian pacification, Lawton was sent to the Philippines to fight the Spanish Military and the Filipino insurrection later. He was killed by the forces of a Filipino General named Geronimo. Insurrection or revolution, they were remnants of Katipunans founded by Andres Bonifacio.


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Filipinos in the New World
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2007, 07:25:59 AM »
By one account, some 60,000 Filipinos sailed on the galleons from Manila to Acapulco over two-and-half centuries, mostly as crews. Many escaped upon reaching Mexico, never to return to the Philippines. Most of the Filipino sailors were natives or indios. There were also many who belonged to the mestizo class, products of intermarriages between Spanish and native Filipinos who traveled as merchants, technicians or functionaries.

Every year between 1570 and 1815, two galleons sailed from Manila to Acapulco to carry on a flourishing trade monopoly for Spain. One of every five members of the crew was a Filipino native but some historians claim it went as high as 50 to 80 percent Filipinos. The other crew members were Spanish, Mexicans and Portuguese.

I have been obsessed with the idea of tracking down the descendants of Filipinos who had migrated to Mexico. Because most of those ships were built by Filipinos in the Philippines, albeit through a compulsory system of labor called polo, I felt their role in the galleon trade should be recognized. Another point I want to bring out is that Filipinos had been in the New World much longer than any group of Asian.

A book published in Manila last year, "After the Galleons," written by eminent scholar, Dr. Benito Legarda Jr., had tipped me that a community of Filipino descendants could be found in Espinalillo near Acapulco. Another book that I found upon reaching Acapulco made a similar assertion.

Upon landing in Acapulco, I went straight away to Espinalillo in a hired car with a driver, Urbano Morales, acting as guide. Espinalillo, it turned out, was a barrio in the town of Coyuca, a half hour's drive north of Acapulco. The area is known as the Costa Grande, notable for its fine beaches washed by waves from the Pacific Ocean. Its most notable feature is a fresh-water lake 17 miles long that runs parallel to the seashore.

It was like being transported to the Philippines. The area is verdant with tall coconut trees and tropical fruits and plants. Many people walking the streets or staring from the windows of houses looked like Filipinos -- brown, with large eyes and black hair and of medium build. With the driver acting as interpreter, I talked to five or six households to ask if they were descended from Filipinos. They all said they had no idea. One person I spoke to was a woman who claimed she was 112 years old. She does not remember anything said about Filipinos living in their village.

All of a sudden, I realized I was asking the wrong questions. The term "Filipino" is a fairly modern appellation, referring to Spaniards born in the Philippines. Most Chinese in Mexico are actually Filipino! The word "Filipino" was coined only in 1889.During Spanish times, natives from the Philippines were known as Chinos or simply as Manila Men. They thought these Filipinos came from China. This notion persisted in Mexico up to today. Until now, many Mexicans refer to Filipinos as Chinos, and they usually had no family names. When I asked the folk of Espinalillo if they knew of anyone in the village who was of Chino descent, they merely shook their heads.

It was my driver who provided the answer, to my disappointment. He said: "After three or four generations, the thread of genealogy is lost. It becomes difficult to trace ancestry." He was right. Filipinos had been in Mexico for 10 or 15 generations. Their racial identity has become dissipated through intermarriages with other races. Mexico racial mixing is a very rich brew. One has only to look at its people today to reach this conclusion.

Thousands of people captured from India, Burma, Indonesia and Mindanao were collected in Manila and brought to Mexico as slaves. They filled up the labor shortage caused by the decimation of the Mexican Indian population from diseases brought by the Europeans.But one can see that in Acapulco and surrounding towns, Filipinos -- or their mixed versions -- are everywhere, apparent through their skins, black hair, almond eyes and ready smile. You find them in menial jobs as waiters and drivers, sales girls, security guards. They comprise the backbone of Acapulco's tourism industry.

Filipino Clans Take Root in Mexico My disappointment at not finding descendants of Filipinos in Espinalillo did not last long. At barrio Bajo los Ejidos, also in Coyuca in the Costa Grande, I saw a big sign at the side of a house in huge letters. The sign read: Parque Reyna Maganda. In short order, I was talking to a matronly lady, Lupe Maganda, who told me that Parque Reyna Maganda was a barrio park named after her mother who had just died. While we were talking she had an uncle summoned from another house to join us.

Soon we were joined by an old man walking with a cane by the name of Severino Maganda, 85 years old. When I explained to him that Maganda was a Filipino word (meaning beautiful) and that his family must have come from the Philippines, he showed no surprise. He told me that when he was a young boy, his grandmother told him that the Maganda family came from the Philippines. His father and grandfather both lived and died in Espinalillo.

Members of the clan have been living in the Costa Grande for generations and they are reputed to be quite a big clan. Their forbear must have adopted the Maganda name to perpetruate their memory of the Philippines.

In Acapulco itself, talking to knowledgeable people, I learned that there is another big clan in Costa Grande whose forbears came from Manila. This family has the unique surname of H-Luz (pronounced Acheh-Luz). One of its descendants, Rube H-Luz Castillo, has written a book on the history of Acapulco.

There are two other clans by the name of Guzman and Rodriguez, but I did not get to meet anyone of them. I was informed that in another barrio called Carizal, there were also Filipino descendants.

There is a unique private institution called Centro de Investigacion e Informacion Historica de Acapulco. I had a brief interview with its director, Benjamin Galicia Hurtado. Mr. Galicia told me that besides Acapulco itself, the big concentration of Filipino Mexicans can be found in the towns and cities of western Mexico, the coastal areas, in places like Puerto Vallarta, Guaymas, Navidad and San Blas.

In the galleon era, San Blas was an active port second only in importance to Acapulco. San Blas actively traded with Manila in the 1770's, and this trade was not necessarily carries out on the galleons. Skilled women such as sailmakers, shipwrights and carpenters from the Philippines were stationed in San Blas to repair and maintain the galleons.

A Filipino shipwright who became famous in Mexico was Gaspar Molina. Married to a girl from Sinaloa, Molina was commissioned by the Spanish viceroy in Mexico City to build a ship in Baja California to be used by the Jesuit missionaires who were starting to pacify the area. The ship, Nuestra Senora de Loreto, was launched in Loreto in 1760 to the great satisfaction of the Spanish authorities. In 1764, Molina built a second ship which was named Nuestra Senora de la Concepcion.

The Filipinos' big contribution to Mexican culture, according to Dr. Galicia, is in the area of food. In 1618, 74 of the 75 Filipino crew members of the galleon Espiritu Santo abandoned their ship. They were then asked by the local Indians to teach them how to make tuba, the drink derived from coconut trees. In the sidestreets of Acapulco the heady brew is sold as tuba fresca.

The Filipinos also imparted their know-how in making ceviche (seafood kinilaw) and other unique ways of broiling fish and shrimps. The Mexican term for a beach hut is palapa, which is Filipino for coconut fronds.

While it is common knowledge that their mangoes came from Manila, it comes as a surprise to me that the coconut tree, which they call palmera, also originated from the Philippines. The state of Guerrero, where Acapulco is located, is Mexico's biggest producer of coconuts and coconut products.

Juan de Cuellar, a botanist who was sent to the Philippines to study its plants and flowers - he preceded the other famous botanist Fr. Jose Blanco by a hundred years - had a hand in sending many Philippine plants to Mexico. One of the plants that De Cuellar introduced to Mexico was the rambutan which miraculously survived the long trip across the Pacific and thrived in the New World.

Filipino Sailors in the New World Filipinos had been going to the New World since the 16th century. A California historian, Lorraine Crouchett, noted that some Cebuanos sailed on the galleon San Pablo when it made its historic first crossing of the Pacific Ocean from west to east in 1565. Guided by Fray Andres de Urdaneta, the San Pablo was sent by Miguel Lopez de Legaspi to find the return route to Mexico and to obtain supplies for his expedition to settle the Philippines.

The route discovered by Legaspi was used by the Manila galleons to travel to Mexico for 250 years. From that period, Filipinos traveled to the New World regularly. They continued crossing the Pacific long after the galleons were gone.

The first recorded landing of Filipinos in California took place in October 1587, on a frigate that came from Macao under the command of Portuguese galleon pilot Pedro de Unamuno. Unamuno left a written account of his landing at Morro Bay with a crew composed in part by Filipinos "armed with shields and spears." While reconnoitering the place, they were attacked by Indians who managed to kill one Spanish soldier named Contreras and a Filipino crew member. Unamuno was under instructions from the Spanish governor in Manila, Santiago de Veyra, to look for suitable ports for the Manila galleons.

The galleon San Agustin landed at San Francisco Bay in 1595 on a similar mission, also with a crew of Filipinos. The San Agustin, with Carmenho Rodriguez as commander, was sunk by a freak chubasco while lying at anchor, together with its cargo. The party was able to reach Acapulco on a raft which was built with the help of local Indians.

Two years later, the galleon Santa Ana was captured by the English buccaneer Thomas Cavendish while approacing the tip of Baja California. More than a hundred Filipino men, women, and children were forced to get off the ship at the town of San Jose del Cabo. In this town, one of the wealthiest families was a descendant of the Canseco family that used to live in Intramuros, Manila. "All the Cansecos in Mexico came from the Philippines," one family member told me.

Cavendish, with a wealth valued at P3 million at that time, sailed to the Philippines, bringing with him the Spanish pilot of the Santa Ana and three Filipino prisoners. The Filipino prisoners were released in Capul (named after Acapulco) island in the San Bernardino Strait. One of the prisoners, Francisco Mansalay, tipped off the Spanish authorities in Manila on the presence of the English pirates in the Visayas. Before the Spanish could act, however, Cavendish had escaped through the southern backdoor back to England.

Over two-and-a-half centuries, about a hundred galleons were built in the Philippines. Most of them were built in Pangasinan, Albay, Mindoro, Marinduque and Iloilo. Task forces of as many as 8,000 men called cagayan were organized by the Spaniards to cut the trees, convert them to timber and haul them to the shipyards. Able-bodied Filipinos were forced to work in shipbuilding under a compulsory system called polo. Their breastwork of Philippine hardwood could not be pierced by cannonballs. Eight galleons were captured by pirates over the centuries and several were shipwrecked or sank by typhoons.

In 1819, the capital of Spanish California, Monterey, was invaded and occupied for one week by a band of adventurers from South America, where handful of Filipino sailors were involved. The raiders came aboard the warship Argentina, commanded by Hyolite Bouchard, a French adventurer from Buenos Aires, Argentina. South America was in turmoil because of the independence movements and Bouchard was assigned to patrol the Pacific Ocean. The Argentina made a trip to the Philippines where it recruited more Filipino sailors.

In Honolulu, Hawaii, Bouchard ransomed another ship, the Santa Rosa, which was being held by King Kamehameha as payment for sandalwood purchased by the ship's crew who had mutinied and taken over possession of the ship.

The two ships proceeded to Monterey and managed to capture the city with little resistance. The governor of California, Sola, fled to San Francisco City, California, along with the city residents. When they returned one week later, they found that the whole city had been looted and razed. The pirates had disappeared towards South America.

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Filipino Galleon Trade: Maps
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2007, 07:52:40 AM »
The following are maps of the Manila-Acapulco Galleon Trade (1565-1821)
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« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2008, 12:33:01 PM »
I am a direct descendant of the Canseco Family you are taking about in the Philippines from Intramuros. I was hand down the story of 4 Canseco brothers with one of them going to Mexico when I was young and even have the names and their descendant but I lost it. :(

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« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2008, 12:40:28 PM »
My family ties with the Canseco Family comes from the union of Jose Canseco III (? I am not sure about this if it is the III or IV) and Consuelo Santos. They are my Lolo and Lola (grandparents maternal side). Sayang I lost it, I had the family tree of several generations starting from Spain to the Canseco's going to the Philippines and then to Mexico.

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« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2008, 03:47:30 AM »
Greetings my friend,

Do you have anymore information about your family members who went to Mexico?
You have to know that during the early 19th century, when Mexico had its independence war with Spain, the Millions of Pesetas that were accumulated during the Manila-Acapulco trade were formally ceased. The thousands of Mexicans-Spaniards that stayed in the Philippines for business's sake moved out of the islands and went back to either Mexico to rebuild the country after the war, or for many Spaniards, went back to Mother Spain to cash out their riches. Many Filipino mestizos and Filipino indios went with their Spanish and Mexican cohorts. Perhaps you can divulge in more history about the Conseco family, and I will do my best to research it for you.

Gracias!

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« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2008, 08:46:57 AM »
Hello Lorenzo,

No I do not have information of my relatives in Mexico but I do know of a way to get the names of my ancestors Canseco Family of Intramuros many generations back, since according to my brother while my mother was still alive she registered her name in the Intramuros registry as she has marriage, death and birth certificate for authenticity.  These was practice as she and her clan belongs to the Datu Lacandula, as the Datu’s descendants they are exempted from paying the Spanish Government taxes and I believe a conquistador named Jose Wenceslao Canseco (I’m not sure about this) was awarded by the King of Spain. They have kept records of these Family names and it was also the place where my mother got the photocopies of the family tree that I was talking about that was lost. I remember my mother told me about a tapayan (clay vat) full of gold or silver coins that the Canseco Family Matriach has inside her bedroom or it can also be the Santos Family she was referring to as my Lola Consuelo came from the Santos Family which were also very rich. I do not know whatever happened to that gold or silver coins as during the war my Lolo Jose Canseco together with my uncles became soldiers after World War II their family was reduced to the working class, my poor mom have to stop going to a private girl’s school and find employment to the horror of my great grand mothers. She was the last of the generation who can speak, read and write fluent Spanish, aside from English and Tagalog.

In addition my paternal relatives is the Salazar Family, my Lolo is Hugo Salazar Sr. married to Ramona Medrano of Cavite. My Lolo is a prominent figure during the 1900s in a political party, he is a pharmacist. My knowledge of this Family tree is vague and I would like to know more about them.

My father was born in 1911 and he died in 1986, while my mother was born in 1918 and she died 2000.


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« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2008, 09:09:19 AM »
Your grandfather was a gobernadorcillo of Provincia Surigao during the early 20th century? Was his post in Surigao mandated during the pre-Philippine Revolution epoch or was he placed as gobernadorcillo after the war?

I want to know because I have some questions concerning his posting to the position by the Principales and the Colonial Audencia. Most of the Gobernadorcillos in the Philippines during the Spanish Colonial Epoch were part of the Illustrado class, the Principales, or proverbially known as the 'Enlightened Middle Class' that history text books write about. By this, all of the Gobernadorcillos in the Philippines were given a notary pendant from the Royal Spanish Cortes by way of the Gobernador General (Spanish Viceroy of the Philippines) and a written letter and signature of approval by His Majesty, the King of Spain at the time. Was your grandfather schooled in the Philippines or Spain? If he was schooled in Spain, there could have been a chance he met Dr. Jose P. Rizal. Filipino intelligentsias that schooled in Spain usually were part of the same circles.  The product of Pax Hispanica.

If you are willing, sir, I would like to ask you further questions privately. My great thanks.

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« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2008, 09:30:58 AM »
Sure just send me an email in private I will answer your questions.

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« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2008, 09:39:55 AM »
Hugo Salazar Sr. became a gobernador of Surigao after the Spanish rule and under the Administration of the United States in the Philippines. This was pass on to me by word of mouth according from my father Hugo M. Salazar Jr.

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« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2008, 09:45:25 AM »
 Jose,

It is very interesting to hear your personal and familial historical anecdote because this past semester I engaged in an independent study research with my Professor in Philippine Nationalism, its development during the Spanish Epoch, and one of the cases that were manifested during Pax Hispanica was the rise of the Filipino Illustrado class. Reading your historical anecdote refers back to that study.

You mentioned earlier that one of your ancestors belonged to Datu Lancadula's clan and were exempted from the annual taxes. One of the early techniques of Hispanifying the Philippines was the creation of a 'Nativo Filipino Principales'. By this, the Spanish Colonial government retained the power of the regional Lords (Datus, Rajas) and their families and instead of being referred to the proverbial 'Datu' or 'Raja', were given the reputable prefix of 'Don' or 'Dona'. The Colonial government relied primarily on the loyalty of the Principales class to retain control of the Philippines and in order to secure this order, gave the local lords positions in government and in the Church. Many of the Datus and Rajas became Gobernadorcillos, or lower-level governors, and  had the power to collect taxes for the Royal Audencia and the Royal Spanish Gobernador General. The creation of the Guardia Civil (Armas Constabularia) were mandated and controlled by the Governador General, but the authority of the Gobernador General was shared by the regional Gobernadorcillos. An example of local autonomy in practice within the greater sphere of Spanish Imperial Dictum.

It is very fascinating for me because your personal anecdotes fits in to what my research readings stated; reading something is different from actually hearing from a living source. So please pardon my excitement :)

Do you know anything more about Jose Wenceslao Canseco?

I'll look more into him.

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« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2008, 09:48:09 AM »
Hugo Salazar Sr. became a gobernador of Surigao after the Spanish rule and under the Administration of the United States in the Philippines. This was pass on to me by word of mouth according from my father Hugo M. Salazar Jr.

Okay. During the transitional period of Spanish-to Malolos-to American administration, most of the infrastructure that was established by the Spaniards, remained the same. For order's sake. The Americans merely built upon what the Spanish indoctrinated, instead of redoing everything. Even the provinces that we have now in the Philippines are of the old Spanish order.



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« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2008, 10:01:03 AM »
Hello Lorenzo,

No I do not have information of my relatives in Mexico but I do know of a way to get the names of my ancestors Canseco Family of Intramuros many generations back, since according to my brother while my mother was still alive she registered her name in the Intramuros registry as she has marriage, death and birth certificate for authenticity.  These was practice as she and her clan belongs to the Datu Lacandula, as the Datu’s descendants they are exempted from paying the Spanish Government taxes and I believe a conquistador named Jose Wenceslao Canseco (I’m not sure about this) was awarded by the King of Spain. They have kept records of these Family names and it was also the place where my mother got the photocopies of the family tree that I was talking about that was lost. I remember my mother told me about a tapayan (clay vat) full of gold or silver coins that the Canseco Family Matriach has inside her bedroom or it can also be the Santos Family she was referring to as my Lola Consuelo came from the Santos Family which were also very rich. I do not know whatever happened to that gold or silver coins as during the war my Lolo Jose Canseco together with my uncles became soldiers after World War II their family was reduced to the working class, my poor mom have to stop going to a private girl’s school and find employment to the horror of my great grand mothers. She was the last of the generation who can speak, read and write fluent Spanish, aside from English and Tagalog.

In addition my paternal relatives is the Salazar Family, my Lolo is Hugo Salazar Sr. married to Ramona Medrano of Cavite. My Lolo is a prominent figure during the 1900s in a political party, he is a pharmacist. My knowledge of this Family tree is vague and I would like to know more about them.

My father was born in 1911 and he died in 1986, while my mother was born in 1918 and she died 2000.


Try this site, which actually has the Canseco family tree; a world-wide base.

http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?surname=Canseco&given=

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« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2008, 11:41:15 AM »
By the way my Lolo Jose Canseco was also a Katipunero and was awarded a gold medal in Malacanang Palace during the 1960s-70s era. I saw this medal, his itak and salakot when I was a young girl, I do not know what happened to these personal effects as I have moved out of the house after I got married to Filipino realist fine artist painter Lawrence Jose.

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« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2008, 11:53:02 AM »
you can also checkout Lawrence Jose's artworks at http://www.lawrencejose.bravehost.com

My mother said we also have ties with the Amorsolo the National Artist through marriage, I also recall a cousin Cesar Amorsolo who is also a painter. And she said we have ties with the Diaz family, my older sister bears a resemblance to Gloria Diaz specially when she was younger.

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« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2008, 01:25:04 PM »
Thanks for the link. And most of all thank you for sharing your family history with us here in Tubag Bohol. Its always nice to hear that families still retain an interest in their lineage and history. Food for the mind, so to say.

PS. Nice paintings. Extend my regards to your husband.


Gracias y adios mi amiga

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« Reply #17 on: February 14, 2008, 10:53:07 AM »
An interesting video that illustrates what we've been talking in here:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=1OrBf90kotU

Filipina-Espana-Mexicana Relations:
Half a Millenia of Common History

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« Reply #18 on: February 14, 2008, 10:55:45 AM »
El Hispanisacion de las Filipinas. ¡Sirva de madre a la influencia cultural de España de las islas filipinas! ¡Mitad de un Millenia de la historia común!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Oj5lCeTN_qc&feature=related

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