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MikeLigalig.com · « **on:** August 02, 2012, 08:08:24 PM »

Why China Gets A Lot of Gold Medals in the Olympics?

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hubag bohol · « **Reply #1 on:** August 02, 2012, 08:26:39 PM »

May-ong man ning Islander...

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hubag bohol · « **Reply #2 on:** August 02, 2012, 10:36:03 PM »

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islander · « **Reply #3 on:** August 03, 2012, 01:35:50 AM »

May-ong man ning Islander...

may-ong bitaw pero di ko parehas ninyong abilidaran.

left to right: bugsay, lorenz, hubag, nagpauraray in-between chinese sports boot camp training

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islander · « **Reply #4 on:** August 03, 2012, 01:40:26 AM »

China has spent hundreds of millions of dollars on sports academies, talent scouts, psychologists, foreign coaches and latest technology and science. China puts particular emphasis on developing programs in sports that have a lot events and give lots of medals such as shooting, gymnastics, swimming, rowing and track and field.

By the time of the 1988 Olympics in Seoul, China had spent an estimated $260 million to develop a national sports program. That year it won only five gold medals, yet many young athletes had entered the system who would do well in future Olympics. In 1992, China placed fourth in the total medal count.

In preparation for the Beijing Olympics more than 30,000 athletes are training full time, five times more than the number who will actually compete.

from Chinese Olympic Training System
Olympic Training in China
http://factsanddetails.com/

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islander · « **Reply #5 on:** August 03, 2012, 01:44:23 AM »

In a typical city, every government district is asked to test and assess children from ages 8 to 13, and select candidates for sports schools. Children that show promise move on to bigger government training academies when they are teenagers.

Doctors measure height, arm span, bone density, flexibility and other things to predict what a child will be like in the future. X-rays and bone tests are used to determine bone density and structure and predict future growth.

Children demonstrating exceptional flexibility and balance are sent to gymnastics and diving camps. Tall children are sent to volleyball and basketball camps. Those with quick reflex are guided into ping pong. Kids with long arms are pushed into swimming or javelin throwing. Those with shorts arms make ideal weightlifters. Potential archers are picked on the basis of a test of steady nerves in which they are asked to spread their palm and stack as many .22 caliber bullets as they can on top of one another. Ideal candidates can stack eight or more bullets. Only those that can that can stack six or more are even looked at. Strong shoulders, superior vision and a cool demeanor are viewed as desirable attributes for archery.

from Olympic Recruiting Methods in China
Olympic Training in China
http://factsanddetails.com/

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islander · « **Reply #6 on:** August 03, 2012, 01:48:38 AM »

At the sports centers for young athletes, children are put through rigorous drills in old gyms on canvas mats in training sessions held several times a day throughout the day and sometimes into the night. The athletes rarely see their families. A coach at a sports camp where nine-year-old gymnasts worked out and lived 1,000 miles away from their homes told Newsweek, "A first they miss their parents. But they get used to it."

Olympic Training in China
http://factsanddetails.com/

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islander · « **Reply #7 on:** August 03, 2012, 01:50:07 AM »

Los Angeles Times journalist Ni Ching Ching wrote:â€œWhat I hated most about our training was the repetition. One drill was to jump from the end of the pool, feet first one hundred times facing the pool. One hundred times facing away. And another 100 times head first. Like piano scales, these were the basics of diving, We called them Popsicles, bing quer, because they required a tight, streamlined entry.

Olympic Training in China
http://factsanddetails.com/

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islander · « **Reply #8 on:** August 03, 2012, 02:04:53 AM »

â€œI managed these robotic leaps from the sides of the pool, fudging the numbers as I went. But when the coach ordered us to do the same jumps from the 3-meter platform I showed my true colors...I was terrified of heights...I stood for an eternity on the diving board. The coaches were yelling. I couldnâ€™t do it. With the weight of the world on me I closed my eyes and saw the end of my suffering. Instead of taking a leap of faith I literally stood my ground and crawled down the stairs.â€

Olympic Training in China
http://factsanddetails.com/

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MikeLigalig.com · « **Reply #9 on:** August 03, 2012, 02:21:22 AM »

kining mga chinese naa gyuy plano sa ilang nasud. sad to say, nga wala ta ani nga early training sa atong pagkabata. sungka ra gyud intawon ta makaingon nga hawod.

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david · « **Reply #10 on:** August 03, 2012, 02:43:55 AM »

belib diay ko sa mga chinese...ang pinoy unsa man pod ang abelidad

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MikeLigalig.com · « **Reply #11 on:** August 03, 2012, 02:50:49 AM »

david, lain pud ang abilidad sa mga pinoy. nagkalanrakas lang. maayo ta sa field of nursing ug kining atong mga seaman in demand kaayo. maayo pud sa English ang mga Pinoy.

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #12 on:** August 03, 2012, 03:26:16 AM »

In a typical city, every government district is asked to test and assess children from ages 8 to 13, and select candidates for sports schools. Children that show promise move on to bigger government training academies when they are teenagers.

Doctors measure height, arm span, bone density, flexibility and other things to predict what a child will be like in the future. X-rays and bone tests are used to determine bone density and structure and predict future growth.

Children demonstrating exceptional flexibility and balance are sent to gymnastics and diving camps. Tall children are sent to volleyball and basketball camps. Those with quick reflex are guided into ping pong. Kids with long arms are pushed into swimming or javelin throwing. Those with shorts arms make ideal weightlifters. Potential archers are picked on the basis of a test of steady nerves in which they are asked to spread their palm and stack as many .22 caliber bullets as they can on top of one another. Ideal candidates can stack eight or more bullets. Only those that can that can stack six or more are even looked at. Strong shoulders, superior vision and a cool demeanor are viewed as desirable attributes for archery.

from Olympic Recruiting Methods in China
Olympic Training in China
http://factsanddetails.com/

Luoy pod intawn ang bata. It pains me to see that children are indoctrinated like this in China's society -- it reminds me of a book I once read about the grueling experiences of Chinese child actors had to go through during their training in Peiking Opera.

Seeing picture like these -- bothers me. Ma sakit pod atong dughan og maka kita ta ing ani. Especially kai pariho raba ang nawong ning bataa sa ahoang igsoong gamay, si Andre.

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #13 on:** August 03, 2012, 03:28:02 AM »

Why China Gets A Lot of Gold Medals in the Olympics?

Luoy pod intawn ang mga bata...bu-angg gayod ang ilang mga ginikanan nga gusto ilang anak i-pa experience ing anihang abuses.

Yawahh!

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islander · « **Reply #14 on:** August 03, 2012, 08:06:49 AM »

when a child cries, it could only mean that it's not pleasant anymore, di ba? worse, it's already painful.

our own little is into his fifth year of ballet. just this year, when i learned that the school's new teacher can execute all the difficult ballet movements but has no iota of real ballet training, i pulled out our kid and transferred her to another ballet school. nothing personal, i said. i just want our child's ballet teacher to know when my child's bones had taken enough beating, and your new ballet teacher is no teacher who can tell when.

that's why mora gyod kog gikumot ani nga pictures. what's in winning, by the way? nothing but ego. i don't think more olympic medals make china any greater in the world's eyes.

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islander · « **Reply #15 on:** August 03, 2012, 09:04:29 AM »

ambot kinsay nagtuo nato karon nga ang china is great because of their olympic medals.

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #16 on:** August 03, 2012, 09:06:23 AM »

What can we expect from a nation whose Communist Government endorses State-supported abortion and a nation that has unprecedented high rates of female infantacide?

Their government sees the people as something easily manipulated. Luoy lang pod ang mga Chinese people who are ruled by such a government with deplorable human rights abuses cases. Tan awa ang mga Tibetans sa Tibet, they are even adopting self imolation to protest the CCP's anti-religious and racist policies against ethnic Tibetans and all non-Han people.

These pictures show that -- human rights abuses.

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islander · « **Reply #17 on:** August 03, 2012, 09:08:13 AM »

belib diay ko sa mga chinese...ang pinoy unsa man pod ang abelidad

kun bilib ka sa chinese nga paspas molangoy kay gigukod ug pating, ang pinoy paspas molangoy kay nanggukod ug pating.

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #18 on:** August 03, 2012, 09:15:56 AM »

Tibet, 2012:

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #19 on:** August 03, 2012, 09:18:42 AM »

belib diay ko sa mga chinese...ang pinoy unsa man pod ang abelidad

kun bilib ka sa chinese nga paspas molangoy kay gigukod ug pating, ang pinoy paspas molangoy kay nanggukod ug pating.

The Chinese are not compared to the Filipinos. Filipinos are very wise. Ang Inchik mo swim away from the Shark. The Pinoy will not swim away, but will catch the shark and eat it. Sigbahong Pating.

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #20 on:** August 03, 2012, 09:23:14 AM »

belib diay ko sa mga chinese...ang pinoy unsa man pod ang abelidad

Daghan kaayo uy!

Kahibalo mo kaon
Kahibalo mo luto
Kahibalo mo inom ug beer
Kahibalo mo gama og bata
Kahibalo mo karaoke karaoke
Kahibalo sa dates sa piyesta
Kahibalo mo trabaho duro

Wise lagi ang Pinoy.

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #21 on:** August 03, 2012, 09:26:55 AM »

Daghan kaayo uy!

Kahibalo mo kaon
Kahibalo mo luto
Kahibalo mo inom ug beer
Kahibalo mo gama og bata
Kahibalo mo karaoke karaoke
Kahibalo sa dates sa piyesta
Kahibalo mo trabaho duro

Wise lagi ang Pinoy.

Kahibalo pod mag hindot hindot.

Mao sigoro daghan kaayo ang populasyon sa Pilipinas...

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islander · « **Reply #22 on:** August 03, 2012, 09:52:43 AM »

Tibet, 2012:

goodness gracious! what is this? did anyone try to save him? did he die? ethics wise, what did the photographers do?

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islander · « **Reply #23 on:** August 03, 2012, 10:19:36 AM »

Problems with Olympic Training Methods in China

The Chinese sports system is geared for creating a handful of topnotch athletes and discarding the rest. "It is really a factory system," U.S. diving coach told Newsweek. "They go through many, many young divers that don't make it to get those who do."

Sports Illustrated journalists in China said they found "evidence of every dubious Western sporting practice: free agency, bought-out contracts, cult-figure coaches, the use of performance-enhancing drugs, and squabbles over money." Winners at a competition observed in Shaanxi included imposters and ringers who should not have been allowed on the team. Fifty-four winners were found to have false papers and the closing ceremonies were concealed to save face.

Sports Illustrated came across an athletic â€œtrade fairâ€ that resembled a slave market: â€œRepresentatives of provincial sports commissions distributed catalogs listing some 1,300 homegrown athletes...Physical dimensions, achievements in competitions and an 'asking price' were listed for each athlete." [Source: Alexander Wolff, Sport Illustrated]

http://factsanddetails.com/

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taga tigbao · « **Reply #24 on:** August 03, 2012, 10:28:42 AM »

Bahala na ug dili ma athlete ahong anak in the future basta dili lamang kastigohon ug ingana for the training.

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islander · « **Reply #25 on:** August 03, 2012, 10:32:42 AM »

bitaw. kinsa man tawong ginikanana ang makaantos ani uy.

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islander · « **Reply #26 on:** August 03, 2012, 10:35:45 AM »

Problems Faced by Athletes Once They Leave Their Sports

Some former athletes get jobs as coaches or in sport associations. Some start their own businesses, selling sporting equipment or promoting athletic centers. But many have no skills and no more than an elementary school education and end up selling vegetables, laboring in factories, singing in bars or working as security guards.

A local track-and-field coach told Newsweek, "When these kids leave athletic schools, they can't do anything, they have no skills. Local sports commissions sometimes provide jobs, but in the end, many become factory workers.â€

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taga tigbao · « **Reply #27 on:** August 03, 2012, 10:36:00 AM »

Maluoy man ganing ta ug iro or iring or unsa ba rong mga matang sa mananap nga murag wa alimaha ug tarong bata/ tawo pa ba kaha nga imong dugo. Anyway, point of view ni naho. What I heard and read of the culture in China and South Korea hasta ang Japan is that parents take pride kung may maachieve ang ilang anak sama nianing sports. Mura ug family pride pud ang prize ani for them.

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islander · « **Reply #28 on:** August 03, 2012, 10:38:41 AM »

About 6,000 professional athletes a year retire. About 40 percent of them have difficulty finding jobs. The cradle-to-grave system that used to take care of them no longer exists. Some athletes are promised jobs as policemen when they retire and these promises are often broken.

China Sports Daily estimates that 80 percent of Chinaâ€™s retired athletes suffer from unemployment, poverty or chronic health problems resulting from overtraining.

http://factsanddetails.com/

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islander · « **Reply #29 on:** August 03, 2012, 10:40:46 AM »

Many athletes that donâ€™t make the grade find themselves out on the street without an education they would have gotten had they attended a regular school.

The Los Angeles Times talked with a former national weightlifting champion who took a job scrubbing backs at a public bathhouse for ten cents a piece because she said it was the only job she could get. Her education stopped when she was in the third grade and she had no marketable skills. Another weightlifter, who won a gold medal at the Asian Games, could only get a job as a doorman at a sports school.

Former runner Ai Dongmei, who placed sixth in the Boston marathon, sold her medals and sells clothes on the street and runs a popcorn stand in Beijing with her husband, also an athlete, for a few dollars a day.

http://factsanddetails.com/

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islander · « **Reply #30 on:** August 03, 2012, 10:42:26 AM »

A surprising number of coaches, even ones who were Olympics champions, are chain smokers. The IOC is investigating reports in China of coaches beating child gymnasts and swimmers.

http://factsanddetails.com/

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #31 on:** August 03, 2012, 10:45:36 AM »

Maluoy man ganing ta ug iro or iring or unsa ba rong mga matang sa mananap nga murag wa alimaha ug tarong bata/ tawo pa ba kaha nga imong dugo. Anyway, point of view ni naho. What I heard and read of the culture in China and South Korea hasta ang Japan is that parents take pride kung may maachieve ang ilang anak sama nianing sports. Mura ug family pride pud ang prize ani for them.

You're right, Brod Vince. Ma sakitan atohang dughan kong maka kita ta'g pictures nga nag hilak ang bata.

I don't know how the parents of this little girl could bear to watch their baby being abused like this.
If I was the father, I would have already punched the trainer's face and rescued my baby girl already.
No award is worth that kind of pain / torture.

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #32 on:** August 03, 2012, 10:46:32 AM »

Lami i dokdokon ang ulo sa baji sa likod.

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islander · « **Reply #33 on:** August 03, 2012, 10:50:53 AM »

Maluoy man ganing ta ug iro or iring or unsa ba rong mga matang sa mananap nga murag wa alimaha ug tarong bata/ tawo pa ba kaha nga imong dugo. Anyway, point of view ni naho. What I heard and read of the culture in China and South Korea hasta ang Japan is that parents take pride kung may maachieve ang ilang anak sama nianing sports. Mura ug family pride pud ang prize ani for them.

okay man nang achievement, di ba? bisan kita mogara tingali kun naa tay anak makalupad, pwera lang nga mahimong wakwak. di lang pugos ug pug-anay nga morag wa na gyoy laing rason nga mabuhi ta.

achieving, like learning, should be fun. kun mohilak na ang bata kay gisakitan, wa na lang sa gimingaw intawon sa mama ug papa, what's the point? sure ko nga kun bata lang pabut-on, parents gyod iyang pilion nungka medalya nga wa pa tawon siya kasabot unsa na.

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islander · « **Reply #34 on:** August 03, 2012, 11:03:50 AM »

You're right, Brod Vince. Ma sakitan atohang dughan kong maka kita ta'g pictures nga nag hilak ang bata.

I don't know how the parents of this little girl could bear to watch their baby being abused like this.
If I was the father, I would have already punched the trainer's face and rescued my baby girl already.
No award is worth that kind of pain / torture.

my bad! she's just a baby... and it's a male adult leg torturing her legs! all for sports medals? not worth a child's tears.

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insurectus · « **Reply #35 on:** August 03, 2012, 01:22:31 PM »

Sa lain nako nabasahan kay ang mga parents sa mga bata ang mao mismo nagdala sa ilang anak para i train og dili ang ila goberno and I think sa gymnastics dapat man daw bata pa i train na daan kay flexible pa kaayo ang lawas

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #36 on:** August 03, 2012, 01:28:50 PM »

my bad! she's just a baby... and it's a male adult leg torturing her legs! all for sports medals? not worth a child's tears.

Lami gayod i sumbagon ang mga ginikanan nga gusto i-subjectohon ilang anak sa ining klasehang abuse. Ug ing ana man diay sila, better for them not to have kids at all. Children should be given affection, love, and embraced and raised in a healthy environment.

My heart bleeds with sympathy for these kids. These pictures are truly very disturbing.

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #37 on:** August 03, 2012, 01:30:50 PM »

Lami i dokdokon ang ulo sa baji sa likod.

Ning hilak intawn ang bata kai sakit na kaayo. Kinsa gud di maluoy ani?

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islander · « **Reply #38 on:** August 03, 2012, 01:35:48 PM »

Sa lain nako nabasahan kay ang mga parents sa mga bata ang mao mismo nagdala sa ilang anak para i train og dili ang ila goberno and I think sa gymnastics dapat man daw bata pa i train na daan kay flexible pa kaayo ang lawas

understandable. some ambitious parents would go the whole hog just to get the honor of having children as champions. but what a price.

tinuod pod nga bata pa angay ang training sa gymnastics, just like ballet. mabali na intawon kun gurang na. pero kun ingon ana nga mohilak ang bata sa kasakit, where's the fun in learning? i won't have this if i were the parent.

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islander · « **Reply #39 on:** August 03, 2012, 01:37:12 PM »

Ning hilak intawn ang bata kai sakit na kaayo. Kinsa gud di maluoy ani?

kun mohilak na, angay na unta undangon, bisan temporarily, until the child is ready again. yes, this trainor is cursed.

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