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15 killed, 13 Wounded In Basilan Bomb Attacks
« on: April 14, 2010, 06:23:23 AM »

By Teofilo P. Garcia


ISABELA CITY, Basilan, April 13 (PNA) - Fifteen people, including three soldiers and a policeman, were killed while 13 others were wounded in three separate bomb explosions in this city Tuesday, officials said.

Isabela City Mayor Cherylyn Santos-Akbar disclosed that five of the 15 killed were among the suspects, whose identities remain unknown.

Akbar said two of the suspects died at the hospital while the other three were killed when the vehicle they were riding caught fire when a bomb they were carrying exploded prematurely around 10:30 a.m. in Barangay Eastside.

“The bomb exploded prematurely while they were carrying it looking for a target,” Akbar said in an interview.

“This (first incident) is a premature explosion,” Regional Explosive Ordnance Demolition (EOD) chief, Supt. Jose Bayani Gucela said while inspecting the first explosion site at Barangay Eastside, this city.

1Lt. Steffani Cacho, Western Mindanao Command (Wesmincom) information officer, said the three soldiers and a policeman were killed when they were fired upon by some of the suspects, who managed to escape, when they rushed to Barangay Eastside.

The second explosion took place around 11:10 a.m. beside the Sta. Isabela Cathedral Church in downtown Isabela City , wherein 13 people were injured.

The bomb was placed on a motorcycle that was parked at the parking area of the Cathedral.

The explosion also destroyed 17 vehicles, including 10 motorcycles, six four-wheel vehicles and a tricycle.

No one was killed or injured in the third incident since the bomb was detonated by the EOD personnel before the suspects have set-off the explosive.

Governor Jum Akbar has requested the military and police to relentlessly pursue the suspects as well as the mastermind of the incident.

Akbar has called on the residents to be vigilant and to rally behind the authorities by way of providing information that would lead to the arrest of the suspects. (PNA/PIA9-BST)

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Re: 15 killed, 13 Wounded In Basilan Bomb Attacks
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2010, 06:24:16 AM »
Bishops Condemn Bombing of Basilan Cathedral

MANILA, April 13 (PNA) - Catholic bishops condemned the bombing of a cathedral in Isabela, Basilan on Tuesday morning that killed five people and injuring several others.

Basilan Bishop Martin Jumoad asked the people to stay calm and cooperate and let authorities do their job in controlling the situation.

“I call my people to stay calm. I call the men and women in uniforms, we need the assistance to have neutralized the situation in the cathedral,” he said, in an interview over Radio Veritas 846

“The AFP and PNP should neutralize the rebel groups who have attacked the cathedral in Isabela City ,” the prelate said.
He also called on the people , including the pink sisters from the Carmelite monastery, to pray that there will be peace in Basilan.

Cotabato Bishop Jose Colin Bagaforo said that the churches in Mindanao were in solidarity in condemning this brazen act.
He also called on the government to closely look or give priority in attaining peace in Mindanao , particularly in Basilan.

Baguio Bishop Carlito Cenzon said the incident was a condemnable act, adding that he was praying for Bishop Jumoad and the people of Basilan.

The bomb also caused damage to properties and a portion of the cathedral. (PNA/PIA9-BST)


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Re: 15 killed, 13 Wounded In Basilan Bomb Attacks
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2010, 06:27:24 AM »
I got this from the email... photos courtesy of Rene V. Carbayas


Bomb wrecked bikes


Church side facing the Land Bank

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Re: 15 killed, 13 Wounded In Basilan Bomb Attacks
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2010, 06:29:39 AM »
Note: I'm just repeating the captions of the sent photos... per description of the sender


Church side facing the Plaza


Wrecked car



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Re: 15 killed, 13 Wounded In Basilan Bomb Attacks
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2010, 06:31:04 AM »

Church shattered windows


Shattered glasses inside church



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Re: 15 killed, 13 Wounded In Basilan Bomb Attacks
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2010, 07:03:41 AM »
Firefight breaks out anew in Basilan
By Marlon Ramos
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First Posted 10:31:00 04/14/2010

Filed Under: Security (general), Police, Armed conflict

MANILA, Philippines – (UPDATE) Firefight again broke out on the island province of Basilan Wednesday as state forces clashed with fleeing Abu Sayyaf bandits behind Tuesday’s spate of attacks in Isabela City.

Senior Superintendent Antonio Mendoza, Basilan police chief, said at least eight armed bandits had taken several people hostage in Barangay (village) Begang.

The gun battle started at around 8 a.m., he said.

Mendoza said the gunfight spread in the nearby villages of Baluno and Pangaraan and the city plaza as the armed bandits escaped to various directions.

“The Abu Sayyaf members forcibly entered several houses to escape the pursuing Marines and policemen. The firefight is very intense in Barangay Begang,” Mendoza in a mobile phone interview.

He said over 100 Marine troopers and 220 policemen were pursuing the Abu Sayyaf bandits.

Meanwhile, Mendoza maintained that only 12 persons, not 15 as reported, were killed when at least 25 members of the al-Qaeda-linked Abu Sayyaf group wearing police and military camouflage uniforms set off two mobile phone-detonated bombs near a school and a Roman Catholic cathedral in Isabela on Tuesday.

A third bomb placed near a judge's house and a bus terminal was safely detonated by soldiers.

The fatalities included three Marines, a policeman, three Abu Sayyaf members, and five civilians.

The bombings sparked gunbattles around the city, with the militants targeting helpless civilians scampering to safety.

At least two military armored personnel carriers patrolled the streets of Isabela city on Basilan island a day after Islamist militants from the Abu Sayyaf group set off bombs and attacked civilians.

Road blocks were also set up in and around the impoverished city of 150,000 people, where some shops remained closed for business a day after the violence.

"We are trying to get the situation back to normal, but we are implementing heightened security there now," regional military chief Lieutenant General Ben Dolorfino told Agence France-Presse (AFP) by phone from his base in Zamboanga city, near Basilan.

"Right now, we have two Marine companies and one from the Special Forces guarding the city, or around 300 men," he said.

Dolorfino said the attack appeared to have been well planned, noting that the police and military uniforms as worn by the gunmen were brand new.

He said military intelligence had received information ahead of Tuesday's siege that the Abu Sayyaf was plotting an attack.

"They were planning something big. This was well planned and apparently they were well funded," Dolorfino said.

"I don't think there was a failure of intelligence on our part because we were pursuing certain leads (ahead of the attack)."

Basilan Bishop Martin Jumoad condemned the attack and called on his flock to remain calm.

"We condemn this inhuman attack in the strongest possible terms," Jumoad told AFP. "We appeal for the public to remain calm because God will not fail us."

He said this was the first time that the Santa Isabel Cathedral had been targeted since it was built in 1970.

"The church is 70 percent damaged. We won't be able to hold mass here temporarily," he added.

The Abu Sayyaf is a small gang of Islamic militants on the US government's list of foreign terrorist organizations.

It was founded in the 1990s with seed money from Osama bin Laden's Al-Qaeda network to fight for an independent Muslim state in the south of the mainly Catholic nation, Philippine military intelligence officials say.

The most brutal of several armed Muslim groups in the south, the Abu Sayyaf is also blamed for the country's worst terrorist attacks, including a 2004 bombing of a ferry that killed over 100 on Manila Bay.



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Re: 15 killed, 13 Wounded In Basilan Bomb Attacks
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2010, 08:10:55 AM »
 ABU SAYAF kaha ang naghimo niini?

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Re: 15 killed, 13 Wounded In Basilan Bomb Attacks
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2010, 12:54:15 PM »
ABU SAYAF kaha ang naghimo niini?

Mora rapod nis ato, daghan istorya modagan... di nata kahibaw unsay tinuod gyod...

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Powerful figures behind Abu Sayyaf’s latest attack -- Police
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By Julie Alipala
Inquirer Mindanao
First Posted 19:11:00 04/14/2010
Filed Under: Military, Acts of terror, rebellion, Armed conflict

Courtesy of BUTCH NATIVIDAD

ISABELA CITY, Basilan, Philippines – The Abu Sayyaf attack here on Tuesday, which killed 14 people and not 15 as earlier reported, appeared to have been instigated by some powerful figures, the police said.

"Based on information we gathered so far, there were indications the Abu Sayyaf was being used to sow violence, it was not pure terrorism,” the Basilan police chief, Senior Supt. Antonio Mendoza, said.

Mendoza said the role of the influential persons – whom he would not identify - in the attack also came out during interrogation made on two Abu Sayyaf members who were captured by pursuing authorities on Tuesday.

"These attackers are seemingly mercenaries. Based on some accounts, they were hired, forced to wear the police uniforms and were directed to implement some attacks and of course, there's money involved,” he said.

Pressed as to who these people were, Mendoza said they could be politicians, although he would not give categorical answers.

Mendoza added the police were investigating the ownership of the cream Starex van, which was torn by the explosion near the Basilan National High School.

“We have reports the vehicle was owned by a politician, we cannot make public yet the identity pending deeper investigation," he said.

Lt. Gen. Ben Dolorfino, Chief of the Western Mindanao Command, said the military considered the attack an act of terrorism.

"We see it as real terror attack but at the same time, we cannot discount the possibility of political color and it is being investigated by our police in Basilan," Dolorfino said.

He rejected insinuations the Moro Islamic Liberation Front was involved in the blast, which Mendoza described as “well-orchestrated.”

"There is no link established that may involve the MILF here, during a cellphone conversation between (Brig.) Gen. (Eugene) Clemen and the MILF, all their members are fully accounted for," Dolorfino said.

Meanwhile, a day after the explosion, fear was still gripping the city with businesses, banks and government offices closed.
Businessmen said they were selling only to people they knew.

Jessie Tan, a grocery store owner, said they were screening customers because they might be dealing with terrorists already.

Dolorfino said security has been tightened and that the city has been secured by two Marine battalions and a battalion from the police’s Special Action Force.

Meanwhile, Mendoza, the Basilan police chief, said only 14, not 15 as earlier reported by the Inquirer, were killed.

Mendoza added that SPO4 Enrico Morales was only wounded, not killed.

Among those killed were Police Officer 1 Elmer Cajalne and civilians Edilberto Dela Luna, Jayjay Larracochea, Rodelio Francisco, Engr. Albert Cenibalo and Ivan Nabi.

Another victim, identified only as Enrico, was brought to Zamboanga City where he later died.

Mendoza could still not provide the names of the three Marine soldiers killed.

The Abu Sayyaf bandit who was killed in the grandstand explosion was named Benzar Indama.

Police and soldiers were pursuing the bandits, who allegedly took hostage a civilian identified only as Ramil, who withdrew towards Lamitan City.

"Wala pa kaming mga tulog, patuloy itong pursuit operation, lahat kumikilos (We have not had any sleep as pursuit operations go on and everybody is helping)," Mendoza said.

Dolorfino of the Western Mindanao Command, said they gathered reports that one of those being pursued was Abu Sayyaf leader Puruji Indama.

Dolorfino said residents saw four bandits hiding in a mangrove area in the village of Tabiawan.

Mendoza said the two suspects who were arrested after the attack have been placed in the Don Navarro Hospital inside Western Mindanao Command in Zamboanga City.

Dolorfino said five more suspects have been under interrogation at the 1st Marine Brigade headquarters in Tabiawan here.

 



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Re: 15 killed, 13 Wounded In Basilan Bomb Attacks
« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2010, 01:02:46 PM »
Basilan erupts anew; pols seen behind violence

By Julie Alipala
Inquirer Mindanao
First Posted 01:40:00 04/15/2010

Filed Under: Politics, Election Violence, Crime, Acts of terror

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ISABELA CITY, Philippines—Some powerful figures, possibly politicians, may have instigated the bomb attacks carried out by Abu Sayyaf extremists here on Tuesday, police said.

“There were indications that the Abu Sayyaf was being used to sow violence, it was not pure terrorism,” said Senior Supt. Antonio Mendoza, Basilan police chief.

Government troops and more than 60 Abu Sayyaf bandits led by Puruji Indama, whose brother was among the dead in the coordinated attacks on the capital, clashed anew on Wednesday morning in Barangay Begang on the forested outskirts of the city.

Isabela Mayor Cherry Akbar and military officials said there had been no reports of casualties from the gun battle, but neither had there been any militants captured.

The day before, dozens of Abu Sayyaf gunmen, many disguised as police and military commandos, detonated bombs at a cathedral and school grandstand, and then opened fire on civilians and troops after their apparent plan to seize the city faltered as government forces fought back.

Police corrected the death toll at 14, not 15 as earlier reported.

It was one of the most ambitious attacks by the Abu Sayyaf, a small but violent al-Qaida-linked group blacklisted by Washington following two decades of deadly bombings, kidnappings and beheadings. The group is suspected of having received training and funds from Osama bin Laden’s terrorist network.

Basilan Bishop Martin Jumoad condemned the attacks and called on his flock to remain calm.

“His church is 70 percent damaged. We won’t be able to hold Mass here temporarily,” Jumoad said in an Agence France-Presse (AFP) report.

Hired guns?

Mendoza said the role of influential persons—whom he would not identify—in the city attacks also came out during the police interrogation of two captured Abu Sayyaf members.

“These attackers are seemingly mercenaries. Based on some accounts, they were hired, forced to wear the police uniforms and were directed to implement some attacks. And, of course, there’s money involved,” he said.

Pressed to identify these people, Mendoza said they could be politicians. He would not give categorical answers.

According to a report by The Associated Press (AP), Rear Adm. Alex Pama said the Abu Sayyaf gunmen might have planned to explode bombs and take over key roads as they unleashed violence in the city by burning buildings, kidnapping people and springing jailed detainees. He also cited intelligence and information from the captured bandits.

The well-funded plan was similar to the April 1995 attack on the Christian town of Ipil in Zamboanga Sibugay, where more than 50 people were killed after the bandits robbed banks and stores and burned the town center.

“The Ipil raid was apparently their model for this failed siege,” Pama told AP. “It was a major, well-planned attack that luckily went bad in their own hands.”

Real terror attack

Lt. Gen. Benjamin Dolorfino, Western Mindanao Command chief, said the military considered the attack an act of terrorism. “We see it as real terror attack but at the same time we cannot discount the possibility of political color and it is being investigated by our police in Basilan,” he said.

A bomb in a Hyundai Starex van apparently exploded prematurely near the Basilan National High School, damaging a grandstand and catching the attention of residents and a contingent of Marines, who engaged the bandits.

“We have reports that the vehicle was owned by a politician. We cannot make public yet the identity pending deeper investigation,” Mendoza said.

An hour later, another bomb attached to a motorcycle went off at the back of the 40-year-old Santa Isabel Cathedral, damaging five cars and wounding civilians.

Troops later found and detonated a third bomb outside the house of Judge Leo Principe.

Test mission

At a press briefing in Malacañang, Executive Secretary Leandro Mendoza dismissed the Abu Sayyaf attackers as “amateurs” and “new to the job” as he noted that the bombs they placed exploded “prematurely.”

This meant that the “professionals” in the group were “no longer at hand to conduct this operation,” Mendoza said. The attacks, he added, could be a “test mission” of newly trained recruits.

The fatalities included three Marines, a policeman, three Abu Sayyaf members (including Indama’s brother Bensar) and seven civilians, among them an elderly man who died of a heart attack at the height of the encounter.

In an AFP report, Dolorfino said the attacks appeared to have been well planned, noting that the police and military uniforms as worn by the gunmen were brand new.

He said military intelligence had received information ahead of Tuesday’s siege that the Abu Sayyaf was plotting an attack. “They were planning something big. This was well planned and apparently they were well funded,” he said.

“I don’t think there was a failure of intelligence on our part because we were pursuing certain leads (ahead of the attack),” Dolorfino said.

Lockdown

As questions arose over how the militants were able to slip into the heart of Isabela undetected, troops and police placed the city of 150,000 under lockdown on Wednesday.

Business establishments, banks and government offices were closed.

Jessie Tan, a grocery store owner, said his attendants were screening customers because they might be dealing with terrorists already.

About 300 Marines and Special Forces troops erected road blocks and kept guard on vital installations, while at least two armored personnel carriers prowled the streets.

Naval patrol boats were also deployed to watch coastal areas to prevent the attackers from escaping by sea, the military said.

Fresh troops belonging to the US-trained Army elite force were deployed to Basilan to pursue the bandits, Navy spokesperson Lt. Col. Edgard Arevalo told reporters at Camp Aguinaldo in Quezon City Wednesday.

President Macapagal-Arroyo, who is in Spain for a state visit, told Executive Secretary Leandro Mendoza by phone to oversee operations aimed at pursuing the bandits and securing the province, and to reactivate the antiterrorism task force.

Fresh fighting

Puruji Indama reportedly fled with three men toward a mangrove area on the outskirts. Officials said that villagers sighted 60 more Abu Sayyaf members who were sent apparently to fetch Puruji, the group’s second-highest commander on the island.

Troops poured into the area overnight, sparking sporadic gun battles. Helicopter gunships stood by to support them, Dolorfino said.

Mendoza told reporters at Camp Crame in Quezon City that the bandits briefly held a man, identified only as Ramil, whom they seized from his house in Barangay Baluno at about 11 a.m. to prevent policemen and Marines from retaliating. The man was freed unscathed two hours later.

The gun battle spread to Baluno and Barangay Pangaraan and the city plaza as the bandits escaped to various directions.

“The Abu Sayyaf members forcibly entered several houses to escape the Marines and policemen. The firefight was very intense in Barangay Begang,” Mendoza said.

A getaway vehicle was recovered in the clearing operations, inside of which were more improvised bombs, the AFP report said.

Major security menace

The Abu Sayyaf is the smaller of at least four Moro groups fighting for decades for a separate homeland in the predominantly Catholic Mindanao. The government has often dismissed the Abu Sayyaf as a bandit group crippled by relentless US-backed military offensives.

But the Abu Sayyaf, estimated to have more than 390 fighters, has periodically surprised authorities with high-profile attacks and is still considered a major security menace. With reports from Christine O. Avendaño, Marlon Ramos, Jocelyn R. Uy, AFP and AP



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Re: 15 killed, 13 Wounded In Basilan Bomb Attacks
« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2010, 01:04:15 PM »
Basilan tightens security for motorcycles to curb bombings

04/14/2010 | 01:36 PM

A day after a series of attacks claimed at least 11 lives there Tuesday, authorities in Basilan clamped down on motorcycles to prevent a repeat of the deadly incident.

Radio dzXL reported Isabela City Mayor Cherrylyn Akbar ordered tight inspections on motorcycles entering the city, to ensure that no explosives are brought in.

She noted a motorcycle and a van had been used in Tuesday’s bomb attack.

This developed as residents of Isabela City mourned their dead after deadly bomb attacks and clashes between soldiers and suspected Abu Sayyaf bandits.

Isabela Bishop Martin Jumoad presided over a memorial Mass in honor of government troops and civilians who died Tuesday.

Jumoad, in a pastoral statement, said the church is “saddened" by the incidents which also caused havoc in the Sta. Isabel Cathedral.

“We condemn this ruthless act against the innocent civilians and institutions," he said in his statement, excerpts of which were posted on the Catholic Bishops’ Conference of the Philippines news site.

He said he believes the attack was part of a well-orchestrated attack “to sow fear in the minds and hearts" of local residents.

Jumoad stressed the people cannot allow this to happen and overtake the gains of peace.

He said he and the Catholic Church in Basilan condole with the families of the innocent civilians and military men who lost their loved ones as the continue to “condemn this act of terrorism."

Also, he said they continue to appeal for peace as he called on local residents to stay calm and turn to prayer.

“To the perpetrators, we know well that we are all brothers and sisters with one Almighty whom we call in different names," he said as he underscored “many lives and properties were lost and destroyed."

On the other hand, he asked the perpetrators if they felt any remorse.

“Do you not feel the cry of the children who are orphaned because of your inhuman act?" he said.

Jumoad also called on the candidates for the coming elections to ask their respective followers to remain calm and not to resort to violence.

He appealed to men and women in uniform to continue their vigilance and prompt response to protect the lives and properties of peace-loving residents.

“When everything is done and our human efforts seem futile, we turn to God and say: ‘Into your hands Lord I commend my Spirit,’" he said.

Meanwhile, Jumoad also lamented the severe damage to the Cathedral of St. Isabel at the heart of the city.

He said he considers the cathedral “totally damaged" as its posts have been weakened by the blasts.

“I am very, very sad the House of the Lord has been destroyed," the 53-year old prelate said, adding he does not know how to reconstruct the cathedral built in 1970. - RJAB Jr., GMANews.TV



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Re: 15 killed, 13 Wounded In Basilan Bomb Attacks
« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2010, 01:06:32 PM »
Bishop wants Basilan under martial rule after blasts

04/14/2010 | 07:14 PM 

A Basilan-based bishop on Wednesday asked President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo to place the province under martial rule following the series of bombings there Tuesday that killed more than a dozen people.

“It’s time really for some real action. Right now the important is to stop this madness," said Isabela, Basilan bishop Martin Jumoad in an article on the Catholic Bishops' Conference of the Philippines news site.

He said the situation in his diocese is beyond what local police can do. “We really need help. Yesterday’s attacks caused me more to clamor for it [martial law]."

Jumoad made a similar call last December after Abu Sayyaf bandits, who were also blamed for Tuesday’s attacks, beheaded one of three hostages they were holding then.

Three separate explosions rocked Basilan between 10:30 a.m. and 11 a.m. Tuesday, killing 14 people, three of them Marine soldiers who responded to one of the bombings.

The Commission on Elections (Comelec) is now mulling putting the province under its control following the attacks.

Anti-Terror Council

In Malacañang, President Arroyo ordered the convening of the Anti-Terrorism Council (ATC) to look into the bombing incident.

Executive Secretary Leandro Mendoza said President Arroyo called him up Tuesday to give the order. ATC is under the Office of the Executive Secretary.

The ATC would review the situation and determine what more could be done to address the issue, according to Mendoza. The Council will also unmask the Abu Sayyaf members behind the attack and determine if it was election-related.

"Because of what happened in Basilan, we might to do some rapid assessment and do some adjustments also," he said.

He added that the bombings could be "a desperate and perverse attempt of the Abu Sayyaf to demand continued recognition."

Vigilance

Presidential aspirant Sen. Manny Villar Jr. (Nacionalista Party), meanwhile, called for vigilance in Basilan to ensure that the bombings had nothing to do with the upcoming elections.

"Tingnan din natin kung itong mga bagay na ito ay may kinalaman sa eleksyon, dapat alisto tayo, dapat tayo ay handa, siguraduhin natin na itong eleksyon na ito ay maging malinis at maayos," Villar told reporters before his speech at the commencement exercise of the Perpetual Help College of Manila held at the Philippine International Convention Center.

(Let’s determine if those bombings were election-related. We should always be on alert. We should ensure that the May elections would be clean and orderly.)

Masses suspended

Meanwhile, Jumoad said regular Masses at the Basilan Cathedral have been suspended indefinitely after the structure sustained heavy damage due to the bombing.

"We will not allow any activities to be done inside the cathedral for the meantime depending on the assessment of structural experts," he said, adding that rehabilitation efforts would be done immediately to make sure the cathedral is safe for churchgoers."

— with Amita Legaspi/KBK/RSJ, GMANews.TV



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Re: 15 killed, 13 Wounded In Basilan Bomb Attacks
« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2010, 02:36:19 PM »
mao gyud ni main reason nga minghawa mi sa Jolo, Sulu and transferred sa Bohol kay grabe ang peace and order situation nila gyud.. 2002, mingbisita ko sa zamboanga bitbit akong family unya sige kakuyawan akong bana kay misag nagsuroy2x mi sa mall, daghan gyud marines bitbit og kalibre nga armas ang nagsuroy2x pud... wala na hinoon mi naka-visit sa Jolo kay mu-uli na gyud akong bana sa bohol

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« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2010, 01:04:02 AM »
Father, thanks for the updates on what is going on in the Southern Philippines. I have been reading into the rhetoric of this so called 'Bangsamoro' Campaign.

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« Reply #15 on: April 16, 2010, 01:23:06 AM »
Father, thanks for the updates on what is going on in the Southern Philippines. I have been reading into the rhetoric of this so called 'Bangsamoro' Campaign.

interested ka ani (bangsamoro)? member man gud halos tanan sa clan namo and they also wanted me to be interested in this but sad to say, i cannot understand it or maybe dli ko interested.......

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Re: 15 killed, 13 Wounded In Basilan Bomb Attacks
« Reply #16 on: April 16, 2010, 01:35:55 AM »
interested ka ani (bangsamoro)? member man gud halos tanan sa clan namo and they also wanted me to be interested in this but sad to say, i cannot understand it or maybe dli ko interested.......

I am not sympathetic for the Bangsamoro, I am just interested in their doctrine and in what their aims are, as the same with the MNLF and other Islamofascist Organizations in the Philippines. I did a research on the MNLF during my undergraduate days for a political science class, and lightly touched into the Bangsamoro campaign, which was rather resemblant with the IJ Movement in insular Indonesia/Malaysia.

I am supportive for a hardline stance of the Philippine Armed Forces in crushing these Islamofascist groups. There is no room for terrorists nor do I believe the government should even negotiate with these terrorists.



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« Reply #17 on: April 16, 2010, 01:39:08 AM »
Anne, the Bangsamoro want a seperate state and nation for all muslims, these are claiming all of Mindanao and all ancestral lands that the Muslims had claimed prior to the growth of Christianity and the Visayan Diaspora into Moro lands of Mindanao.

The Bangsamoro is a rebellious entity thought, whose idea of separation from the Philippines is in itself an act of treason.

It will never manifest considering the great majority of Mindanao is already Christian and the Philippines is a predominantly secular Christian Nation.

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Re: 15 killed, 13 Wounded In Basilan Bomb Attacks
« Reply #18 on: April 16, 2010, 01:47:12 AM »
The Muslim pirates of Tawi Tawi, prior to the Spanish arrival, used to raid the towns and villages of present day Bohol, Leyte, Negros and Cebu and use them as slaves. Considering the great majority of the Filipinos, prior to Spanish Christianization, was pagan-animalistic  in religious rites.

The islamic faith was predominantly isolated in the southern regions of Mindanao as well as in pockets of urban centers in Luzon and in parts of the Visayas. For the most part, the majority of the Austronesian Malays of the Philippines practiced animalistic paganism. Many of whom were enslaved by the Muslims.

After Spain conquored most of the Philippines, they built light houses in Cebu and in Bohol to prevent Moro raids and attacks on the native settlements.

Even after the Christianization of the Philippines, the Moros still raided some unguarded communities, until the Spanish Crown implemented the Reconquista Edict for the Southern Philippines. Effectively settling Mindanao and bringing with them Christian Illongos, Christian Bolanons, Christian Cebuanos, Christian Leytenos into settling what is now Davao, General Santos, and other communities in the south. To this day there is a large Illongo-speaking population in Davao. As a result of the Illongo Diaspora to Mindanao. This, therefore, led to the Christianization of most of Mindanao. Leaving the Muslims and pushing them to the bukidnon regions/ mountainous regions of Mindanao.

There is no way the Bangsamoro will ever be effective. Christian Visayans are the ones that developed Mindanao.
By measure of Spain's Reconquista Edict.



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« Reply #19 on: April 16, 2010, 10:30:46 AM »
i can remember before our elders telling me that i have to get a passport for i need it if i want to visit them since i am residing in bohol..... yeah they really want to own Mindanao

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Re: 15 killed, 13 Wounded In Basilan Bomb Attacks
« Reply #20 on: April 16, 2010, 11:37:37 AM »
mao gyud ni main reason nga minghawa mi sa Jolo, Sulu and transferred sa Bohol kay grabe ang peace and order situation nila gyud.. 2002, mingbisita ko sa zamboanga bitbit akong family unya sige kakuyawan akong bana kay misag nagsuroy2x mi sa mall, daghan gyud marines bitbit og kalibre nga armas ang nagsuroy2x pud... wala na hinoon mi naka-visit sa Jolo kay mu-uli na gyud akong bana sa bohol

Kinsa man ninyo duha taga Jolo Anna and Jorge?

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« Reply #21 on: April 16, 2010, 11:39:39 AM »
Kinsa man ninyo duha taga Jolo Anna and Jorge?

i am from Jolo kay akong papa Muslim and akong mama is from bohol... my hubby is from bohol

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Re: 15 killed, 13 Wounded In Basilan Bomb Attacks
« Reply #22 on: April 16, 2010, 11:41:29 AM »
i am from Jolo kay akong papa Muslim and akong mama is from bohol... my hubby is from bohol

Hehehe....thanks. Pero di ko sure kinsa ning nagtingog karon. Ikaw ba ni Anna or si Jorge?  :D

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« Reply #23 on: April 16, 2010, 11:47:34 AM »
Hehehe....thanks. Pero di ko sure kinsa ning nagtingog karon. Ikaw ba ni Anna or si Jorge?  :D

hehehe Anna ko Padz.. akong bana, magpahipi ra. igo ra mubasa og mukatawa hehehe

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Re: 15 killed, 13 Wounded In Basilan Bomb Attacks
« Reply #24 on: April 16, 2010, 11:55:37 AM »
hehehe Anna ko Padz.. akong bana, magpahipi ra. igo ra mubasa og mukatawa hehehe

Bol-anon diay kaajo ni's Jorge kay pahipi raman... pero kusog mo bahakhak, hehehe. I'm glad nakauli na mog Bohol Anna kay medyo relatively peaceful pa jamo ang Bohol compared to a lot of places sa ato, esp. Basilan. Even more so now nga naa namo's langyaw nga nasud. China is my favorite mythical place... daghan ko gustong suroyan diha, I hope itugot pohon sa Ginoo. Shenzhen ra jud ko kutob ug HKG.

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« Reply #25 on: April 16, 2010, 11:57:41 AM »
Bol-anon diay kaajo ni's Jorge kay pahipi raman... pero kusog mo bahakhak, hehehe. I'm glad nakauli na mog Bohol Anna kay medyo relatively peaceful pa jamo ang Bohol compared to a lot of places sa ato, esp. Basilan. Even more so now nga naa namo's langyaw nga nasud. China is my favorite mythical place... daghan ko gustong suroyan diha, I hope itugot pohon sa Ginoo. Shenzhen ra jud ko kutob ug HKG.

daghan nindot places diri but ambot ngano nga everytime plan ko adto sa beijing or shanghai, ma-cancel gyud kay mu-uli gyud ko sa bohol instead...... BTW, ako ra isa diri. tua sa bohol akong family....

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Re: 15 killed, 13 Wounded In Basilan Bomb Attacks
« Reply #26 on: April 16, 2010, 12:45:59 PM »
daghan nindot places diri but ambot ngano nga everytime plan ko adto sa beijing or shanghai, ma-cancel gyud kay mu-uli gyud ko sa bohol instead...... BTW, ako ra isa diri. tua sa bohol akong family....

I have the same problem... gusto ko mo travel sa laing lugar pero kung ting bakasyon na I spend it all sa Bohol hahaha. Last year 40 days ko sa atoa. All Bohol!!!

Aw, wa diay diha si Jorge? Abi jod nako kamong dugha sige kuyog kay kamo man duha god sa profile pic hahahaha.  ;)

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Re: 15 killed, 13 Wounded In Basilan Bomb Attacks
« Reply #27 on: April 16, 2010, 12:48:17 PM »
Pagkalouy intawon sa nabiktima.  :( May all they rest in peace.

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« Reply #28 on: April 16, 2010, 12:51:09 PM »
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« Reply #29 on: April 16, 2010, 09:23:54 PM »
i can remember before our elders telling me that i have to get a passport for i need it if i want to visit them since i am residing in bohol..... yeah they really want to own Mindanao

The thought of separation from the Philippines is treason to begin with. We are one nation under God. From Illocos to the north, to Palawan in the west to the gates of Leyte in the east, to Cebu-Bohol in the central bosom, to the Tawi-Tawi Isles in the south, we are one Nation. One Republic. Under God. The Philippines.

The Spaniards called our Archipelago, "Las Islas De Filipinas, La Perle de Oriente " {The Philippine Islands, The Pearl of the Oriental }

For over 500 years our entity has been reaffirmed. Western and Eastern texts document it. And this so called "Bangsamoro" is nothing but a recent Islamofascist ideology that is bred by the ultra-religious muslim revolutionaries from JI movement in insular Malaysia and Indonesia (Islamiyah Jerimiyah). IJ is considered a radical terrorist wing by the UN and the United States, they are responsible for the bombings of Indonesian resorts, hijacking and killings of foreigners as well as secular politicians. The Bangsamoro entity and ideology feeds the same; and portrays the same brutality. There can be no Muslim Mindanao or any notion of an indepedent Bangsamoro because the majority of Mindanao is Christian Filipino. And entire republic is a Christian Nation. Over 90% of the Philippines is Christian.

If the muslims will dare to use ancestral rite as means for legitimizing their claims to some lands owned by Christian Filipinos in Mindanao, then the entire Filipino people have the right to claim "In Locum Parentis" By right of parenthood, we, non-muslim Filipinos are entitled to all lands that we live in now by right of parental presence and by right of power. Since the Christian Filipinos under the vestige of Imperial Spain was the one that conquored Mindnao and settled it during the epoch of  PAX HISPANICA from the late 16th century to the ending of the 19th century. The same blood that runs in our veins is the same blood that runs in our pre-Christian ancestors, who were the ones that lived in these islands prior to Western incursion.

And the religion of Islam is not indigenous to the Philippines, but was imported by Arab and Indian traders during the height of the Majapahit Empire of what is now Insular Java (Indonesia). So for the Bangsamoro to claim indigneous and ancestral rite, is rather a moot one. Since the TRUE original Filipinos were not muslims. Nor where they buddhist, nor where they Christian. But practiced animalistic paganism/ shamanism.


In this case, then the right of "In Locum Parentis" stands for Christian Filipinos.
It was the Christian Filipinos that built the Philippines and it is the Christian Filipinos that developed what is now Mindanao.
Particularly the VISAYAN people.


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« Reply #30 on: April 16, 2010, 09:35:49 PM »
To add to this, a bit of history:


Note that there are some pockets of Christians in Basilan and in the Tawi-Tawi Regions, particularly Roman Catholics. The reason for this is that during the late 19th century, the Spanish Crown was dealing with the insurgency in the south; and sent a division into what was then the impenetrable south, the muslim lands. The Spaniards were successful in defeating the Moros and subjegated them, and built a Catholic Church, as well as imported Visayans to the region. The Filipinos that served in the Guardia Civil were mostly from Manila, and a great host were from Cebu (the loyal city of Cebu of the Spanish Empire, as it was then called). Many of the Visayans that served in the Guardia Civil did marry into the local women where the were stationed. This propentiated the Christian faith and augmented some Bisayan words into what is the Moro dialect.


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