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Remembering EDSA Today
« on: February 23, 2009, 09:39:33 AM »
http://www.seasite.niu.edu/Tagalog/Tagalog_Default_files/Philippine_Culture/remembering_the_1986_people_power_revolution.htm

1986. i was yet in high school when it happened.
i remember the tolling of bells from the church
as the news spread that the regime of Marcos was over.
Edsa Revolution was born.
i don't know if SHE is still alive.

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Re: Remembering EDSA Today
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2009, 10:40:38 AM »
i was in grade 6 when this happened.
i rememer my parents didn't allow us to go somewhere
but i sneaked out and went to my friend's house.
i told her about my worries.  we both decided to dig a big whole
for our hiding place if the situation that time will get worse.

i dont know if the SHE is still alive
but i think, SHE is forgotten already as
people in the position now are just repeating
the history because the corruption is getting worst.

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Re: Remembering EDSA Today
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2009, 10:56:18 AM »
It is getting worse because even if there is a use of a People's Power Revolution won't solve any problems if the politicians who pledge to a people's power coup--will not change. Continual uprisings only destabilize government.

Use proper channels to vent disinterest, instead of rising in numbers and forming a mob, and declare it the 'People' when in actuality, it is nothing but a mob.

If you want change, vote for change. Take it to the polls. And don't sell your vote.

Those who sell their votes have no right to complain about the destititution. Since you acquiesced to the system of corruption.

Change begins with you. In the words of Mahatma Gandhi, "You are the change you seek in the world."




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Re: Remembering EDSA Today
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2009, 01:06:27 AM »
too bad, because it was a singular event that took the world to believe what we can do as filipinos in the face of evil. yet it seems many have lost track of its spirit many years after.

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Re: Remembering EDSA Today
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2009, 01:36:47 AM »
feb 22-25 commemorate that fateful moment when a nation rose against all odds. these images captured by lenses still for me are as powerful as they were 23 years ago. may we never forget. lest we forget.








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Re: Remembering EDSA Today
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2009, 01:41:02 AM »
murga dre rajud ni nako ma konek..

kahibaw mo when ang exact date sa march 2009 manila alay lakad?

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Re: Remembering EDSA Today
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2009, 02:09:32 AM »
murga dre rajud ni nako ma konek..

kahibaw mo when ang exact date sa march 2009 manila alay lakad?

naa tingali nakabalo aning petsaha kiams. wa diay nis google?

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« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2009, 02:11:42 AM »
heeey? what's the point of this?


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Re: Remembering EDSA Today
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2009, 12:09:22 PM »
It is getting worse because even if there is a use of a People's Power Revolution won't solve any problems if the politicians who pledge to a people's power coup--will not change. Continual uprisings only destabilize government.

Use proper channels to vent disinterest, instead of rising in numbers and forming a mob, and declare it the 'People' when in actuality, it is nothing but a mob.

Lorenzo,

I agree!

WN

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Those who sell their votes have no right to complain about the destititution. Since you acquiesced to the system of corruption.

Change begins with you. In the words of Mahatma Gandhi, "You are the change you seek in the world."




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Re: Remembering EDSA Today
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2009, 12:33:08 PM »
 i was in luneta when the pipol power started and went to edsa. was hungry at that time looking for a job. dagko kaajo tan-awon ang mga siopaw gi display sa estante. karon, 20yrs after gutom gihapon.

fak 'em 'ol!!!


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Re: Remembering EDSA Today
« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2009, 12:34:50 PM »
grade 5 ko sa Pasil Cebu during the people power, apil fud intawon mi ug parade didto sa Colon unya singgit ug Ibagsak! tama na! sobra na! palitan na!!!!

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Re: Remembering EDSA Today
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2009, 09:52:54 PM »
grade 5 ko sa Pasil Cebu during the people power, apil fud intawon mi ug parade didto sa Colon unya singgit ug Ibagsak! tama na! sobra na! palitan na!!!!

hahahahaha...may na lang to, swaks, nakatampo ka bisag wa ta kaayo kasabot sa atong gibuhat. magkatawa na lang ta kung atong balikon tong mga panahona. pero, nindot man pod nga kasinatian. hehehe.

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Re: Remembering EDSA Today
« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2009, 11:19:28 PM »
fak pipol power! its just a war between cory and marcos!

i say it again "FAK 'EM 'OL!!!

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Re: Remembering EDSA Today
« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2009, 12:13:53 AM »
fak pipol power! its just a war between cory and marcos!

i say it again "FAK 'EM 'OL!!!

 ;D >:( ;D
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Re: Remembering EDSA Today
« Reply #16 on: March 04, 2009, 12:29:41 AM »
I reiterate my point:

It is getting worse because even if there is a use of a People's Power Revolution won't solve any problems if the politicians who pledge to a people's power coup--will not change. Continual uprisings only destabilize government.

Use proper channels to vent disinterest, instead of rising in numbers and forming a mob, and declare it the 'People' when in actuality, it is nothing but a mob.

If you want change, vote for change. Take it to the polls. And don't sell your vote.

Those who sell their votes have no right to complain about the destititution. Since you acquiesced to the system of corruption.

Change begins with you. In the words of Mahatma Gandhi, "You are the change you seek in the world."




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Re: Remembering EDSA Today
« Reply #17 on: March 04, 2009, 01:04:54 AM »
True.  In modern societies, governments are not changed by popular uprisings but by manner of representative election.  It is an indication of a weak government when it is easily thrown out by the mob. But the situation in EDSA 1 left the people with no choice but to go to the streets.
The difference between the Edsa 1 and Edsa 2 is clear.  In Edsa 1, the dictatorial regime of Marcus can only be displaced through revolution since the system of election was flawed.  Please remember the snap elections a year before the Edsa.  The people did not have a choice. It was also likely to be a military uprising backed by the military.   Marcus was in great danger when his favorite pets, Ramos and Enrile withdrew their support for him.  The civilian uprising came after calls of revolution from radio veritas,  pronounced by Cardinal Sin.
It was not Cory's fight.  If it was, then she should have stayed longer in office but she did not.  She ended her term like any other elected president.  She was even confronted with 9 coup attempts but she withstood the challenge.  The RAM was envious to Cory since they thought they were responsible for the EDSA revolution, and now, a housewife took their dreams away.  Gregorio Honasans plan was simple, that was to establish a military junta.  Thank God, it did not prospered.

EDSA 2 was primarily a civilian uprising backed by the military.  The popular revolution was ignited because of the non-opening of the second envelope of evidence against Pres. Estrada.  This was of course clearly a rule of the mob.   There could still be other legal remedies which could be used by the prosecution, but they did not observed the rule of law.  They did not allow the impeachment proceedings to finish before taking any action. This was an indication that we do not have trust in our legal systems and that is a shame. Popular revolution should only be done as a last resort.

We wanted to evade fire, but we were thrown to the burning furnace.  Now, a devil enjoys the fruit of EDSA 2.

Our fault...



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Re: Remembering EDSA Today
« Reply #18 on: March 04, 2009, 09:59:21 AM »
dapat gibitay/gilotin tong dunay sa sa marcos regime like the french did in their revolution!!! ewan ko kong dili mabag-o ang dagan sa politika!

"FAK 'EM 'OL!!!"

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Re: Remembering EDSA Today
« Reply #19 on: March 04, 2009, 10:42:36 AM »
True.  In modern societies, governments are not changed by popular uprisings but by manner of representative election.  It is an indication of a weak government when it is easily thrown out by the mob. But the situation in EDSA 1 left the people with no choice but to go to the streets.
The difference between the Edsa 1 and Edsa 2 is clear.  In Edsa 1, the dictatorial regime of Marcus can only be displaced through revolution since the system of election was flawed.  Please remember the snap elections a year before the Edsa.  The people did not have a choice. It was also likely to be a military uprising backed by the military.   Marcus was in great danger when his favorite pets, Ramos and Enrile withdrew their support for him.  The civilian uprising came after calls of revolution from radio veritas,  pronounced by Cardinal Sin.
It was not Cory's fight.  If it was, then she should have stayed longer in office but she did not.  She ended her term like any other elected president.  She was even confronted with 9 coup attempts but she withstood the challenge.  The RAM was envious to Cory since they thought they were responsible for the EDSA revolution, and now, a housewife took their dreams away.  Gregorio Honasans plan was simple, that was to establish a military junta.  Thank God, it did not prospered.

EDSA 2 was primarily a civilian uprising backed by the military.  The popular revolution was ignited because of the non-opening of the second envelope of evidence against Pres. Estrada.  This was of course clearly a rule of the mob.   There could still be other legal remedies which could be used by the prosecution, but they did not observed the rule of law.  They did not allow the impeachment proceedings to finish before taking any action. This was an indication that we do not have trust in our legal systems and that is a shame. Popular revolution should only be done as a last resort.

We wanted to evade fire, but we were thrown to the burning furnace.  Now, a devil enjoys the fruit of EDSA 2.

Our fault...



ayessa, right.

in my view, however, it's preposterous to look at the 2 EDSAs as the "change" themselves. no, they were not, and would never be. the revolutions were far from the truth of the change we're hoping to happen.

the two momentous uprisings have been nonetheless conduits of redemptive value of the filipinos. that we're capable to change. yes, we can. and it happened. twice.

those chances unfortunately slipped away into the quagmire of the inevitable: politicking of EDSA. everyone wanted to grab a share of the limelight and opportunity only to be found recycling again an old mantra of deception, greed and hunger for power. EDSA lost all its pinions to smoothly spin around the transfer of governance from the dictator and the actor.

how could it happen? i have no explanation except that filipinos never fully learn how to make use of its resources, power and giftedness. we never take pride of our history like EDSA. we seldom use the energy of our heroes. we dwell and waste so much of our time to lick the wounds and never bother to find the cure.

i know our nation's problem has no one-shot remedy, let alone an overnight therapy. to start from ourselves seems to be the best call. only, when it is coupled with a renewed system--from ground up. otherwise, we'll continue sitting here and watch the clouds of the unknown covering our dreams until the time a real EDSA will wake us up and forget no more.

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