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Koreans Misunderstood in the Philippines
« on: July 29, 2007, 05:13:55 PM »
source: http://english.ohmynews.com
By Paterno Jr Rebosura

Korean visitors, students and "tourists" in the Philippines have been seen and observed as "too noisy, undisciplined and rowdy."

Because of their behavior many Filipino businessmen do not welcome the presence of Koreans in their establishments.

In Baguio City, for instance, Filipino golfers refer the former American rest and recreation enclave as "Kim Jong Hay" because there are more Koreans than locals in Camp John Hay.

A golf club in the northern part of the Philippines reportedly put a sign "Koreans are not allowed," a racist move.

I once visited Korea and saw them otherwise. They are disciplined, friendly and helpful contrary to their actuations in Manila or in Puerto Galera.

When I was in Seoul, I even befriended the assistant manager of a posh music lounge although we had language barrier. We even exchanged souvenir items.

But in the Philippines columnists say Korean visitors are not contributing to the economy. This is because Koreans own Internet and gaming cafes, computer shops, restaurants, travel and tour companies, groceries, spas and salons, freight companies, language schools and even churches.

Immigration officials say of the more than 240,000 Koreans in the country about one-sixth are documented. This means more than 200,000 Koreans have no travel and immigration papers -- half of the number have been waiting for their papers and the rest are unregistered.

But who are the gatekeepers? If immigration officials are wondering their presence, the government operatives themselves are to be blamed.

The strength of the peso, which has the same value more than seven years ago, and the growth of the Korean economy could be the factors that emboldened the salaried Koreans and the middle class to enjoy their money in Cebu, Cagayan de Oro, Dumaguete, Manila or even Boracay Island.

It is cheaper to spend their vacation money in the Philippines than in other Asian countries, like Japan or Singapore.

Another factor could be that Korean parents want the best for their children-- and an English education is a passport for a better paying job or moving to the United States.

Koreans could be right. For example, our interpreter in Korea earned $100 an hour, comparable to top executive heading an export division who has no export marketing training but with only an English major diploma as credential.

Filipinos should understand the culture of the Koreans before they conclude about them. Filipinos tolerate the presence of the Chinese or the Spaniards because they live among Filipinos for centuries.

In fact most Filipinos have Chinese blood in their veins. Even the national hero, Dr. Jose Rizal, had Chinese ancestors.

The foundation of the Korean Catholics in the Philippines started way back in the 18th century when Father Kim Dae Gun established a mission in Bulacan province.

The second wave was from 1945 to 1970; the third wave in the 1980s, the fourth in 1990s and the fifth since 2000 onwards.

But compared to the more than 15,000 undocumented Filipinos in cities outside Seoul who could not be seen during daytime or nighttime but only during Christmas and special holidays, undocumented Koreans in the Philippines are even selling used computers in cites in Metro Manila, like in San Juan City or in Laguna and Cavite provinces.

In Seoul I met a Cebuano undocumented entertainment worker in a bar in the Red Light district. I saw a Filipino woman in our hotel past midnight. She said she had to move secretly since immigration agents in Korea are strict compared with those in the Philippines.

My investigation, however, showed that these retail stores are owned and run by Filipino women married to Korean businessmen, who could be overstaying.

I even interviewed one of the shop owners in Calamba City where I bought a computer package for my daughter.

She said they get their slightly used units from Korea in bulk. However, I failed to interview her Korean husband. The couple also owned a branch store in Santa Rosa City, also in Laguna province.

Whether Filipino traders welcome the Koreans or not, it is a fact that as long as Koreans invest in the country, there are jobs for Filipinos.

Even Consul General Hong Sung Mog would suspend the issuance of working visa to Korea,as he did earlier this month, there are jobs offered by Hanjin Heavy Industries and Construction and its ship building facility for welders, and for others in Subic in Zambales.

In short, understanding the culture of the Koreans is the only way to better appreciate their contribution to the Philippine economy.

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« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2007, 11:17:17 PM »
sabaan ang wala maanad, saba man jud na sila paminawon kung mag storya pareho raman na sila sa mga chinese ratatat lang ang baba... kita sab mga pilipino kung magstorya sabaa man sab nang mga tawo nga wala maanad nga makadungog ug pareha nato
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« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2007, 09:39:52 AM »
tinuod gyud,kita bitaw naa ta sa lain na nasud tan-awon man pod basta mag-istorya..pareha ra sad na sila nato.. ;)

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« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2007, 02:16:32 PM »
pareha ra nato oy..maskin mga pilipino sabaan sab...

when i was in korea with some filipinos, kami baya tan-awon sa korea kay banhayan unya ignoy sab hehehe

koreans are friendly... last feb. i hosted a korean youth for a home-stay program... ok ra man..

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« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2007, 09:50:52 PM »
mao lagi na, sabaan ta kung wala ta maanad


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« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2007, 03:36:41 PM »
hmmm. naka-relate ko... sa nagdorm pa ko sa kalayaan (updiliman), gi-generalize ang mga bisaya. kung masaba na gani ang lobby, ang mga bisaya na gyud na.  :( (hmmmm... mura man gud pod tag mahangop nga makakita og laing bisaya sa laing lugar. di ba?) kung dagko nga grupo pod, lisod pod i-disiplina. masaba ra gyud. bisan unsa nga grupo.  ;D



 



 

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« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2007, 03:53:31 PM »
i have korean friends and they're very friendly and very humble. i guess, it's not about the race man nor the language we speak but it's about the personality of the person or the upbringing that makes us SABAAN..anyways, dili man tingali na malikayan ang pgka sabaan labina if dugay na wala mgkita.. and as long as naa sa lugar mg saba-saba for sure dili na problema...

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« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2007, 11:37:32 PM »
See I have a natural problem with this. Okay, I can understand that the Koreans have a particular culture and their own discourse with that culture, but when they try to superimpose their belief systems into a society, which I beg to reiterate, is predominantly Catholic and Malay, that tends to create a problem.

I have no problem with Koreans, Chinese, Japanese, or any other Asian groups living in the Philippines, or any other European, North American or Latin Americans etc either. However, I do have a problem if they dont assimilate into Philippine society and culture. Its just a simple manner of respecting the host nation.

If the Korean students want to study/live/do business here in the Philippines, they should respect Filipino custum and adhere to our social norms. IT SHOULDNT be the other way around. I dont think so! Dahil Kita man ang owners and nationalidos sa atuhang bansa diba? Kita man ang law makers ug kita man ang espirito sa ang bansang Pilipinas.

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« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2007, 11:51:34 PM »
You've said it well, Onic.

In Silliman University, Dumaguete City, there are many Koreans studying English and they enjoy Dumaguete life and culture. When I was still in Dumaguete we don't have problems with Koreans. They are friendly, courteous, and prudent. Many of my classmates who had plenty of time during college days earned hefty amount of sideline income from teaching English to Korean students. At that time they would pay as much as P500 to P700 an hour for A,B,C... past tense, subject, predicate, etc.

Another thing, Dumaguete has a big evangelical Korean church. Most Koreans in Dumaguete are Christians, not Buddhists.

Four or five years ago, a Korean missionary was robbed and murdered in Dumaguete. I hope the crime had been solved by the police.

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« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2007, 05:14:20 AM »
^ Thanks Mike. Thanks for sharing that story in Dumaguete, and its great to see that some of them are courteous and accepting of the local norms. Its just that I've come into contact with Koreans here in my college who used to study in international high schools in the Philippines. And the things they said about my people and country wasn't "enlightening". Just becasue of the societal difference between S. Korea and Pilipinas. Of course it wont be similar..Philippines is Philippines..and S.K is S.K.

Glad to see that there are exceptions, man. Hope to see more news like this in the future.

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« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2009, 09:46:26 PM »
mi decrease na ila number dire sa Cebu.

2 Korean schools naman gane ang nagsara..
heeey? what's the point of this?


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