Which will be better as a local gov't executive: a doctor or a lawyer?

Started by -<GEC348>-, June 08, 2007, 05:38:31 PM

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-<GEC348>-

Doctors, by their Hipocratic Oath, will put public health and welfare above all.
Lawyers, by their training and mind-set, will give law and order primary concern.
This smacks of a grand conspiracy to hide the non-existent, to identify the nameless, to paint a picture of the unseen. -- Benelynne

pioneer

Do no evil, Google says.

Pag-doctor: Overpriced medicine procurement.
Pag-lawyer: Ilogan ka ug yuta.

Do no evil.
Romans 10:9
"That if you shall confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus, and shall believe in your heart that God has raised him from the dead, you shall be saved."

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Happy


Do no evil, Google says.

Pag-doctor: Overpriced medicine procurement.
Pag-lawyer: Ilogan ka ug yuta.

Do no evil.

lol, mike bantay ka ni attorney, ikiha jud ka hahaha
"There's no perfect life, but we can let God fill it with perfect moments"

Happy

Ingon ang uban, kung doctor- dili motambal kung walay kwarta... Ang lawyer daw- mapalit sa kontra hehehe

Way lutsanan  ;D
"There's no perfect life, but we can let God fill it with perfect moments"

-<GEC348>-

I read somewhere here that Mike will soon become a lawyer. No fear, Mike!
This smacks of a grand conspiracy to hide the non-existent, to identify the nameless, to paint a picture of the unseen. -- Benelynne

Happy

"There's no perfect life, but we can let God fill it with perfect moments"

pioneer


I read somewhere here that Mike will soon become a lawyer. No fear, Mike!

GEC, I dropped out from HNU on my second year. I was working for the BC while I was studying law. Wala pa ko kabayad sa akong tuition fee. I will be back, perhaps, by the time I am already financially stable.  8)
Romans 10:9
"That if you shall confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus, and shall believe in your heart that God has raised him from the dead, you shall be saved."

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-<GEC348>-

Lawyers - it's about enjoyment of liberty
Doctors - it's about enjoyment of life
Liberty is just part of life
But what is life without liberty?
This smacks of a grand conspiracy to hide the non-existent, to identify the nameless, to paint a picture of the unseen. -- Benelynne

pioneer

One can have liberty so long as you live in a truly democratic society.

Among silingan diri na Burma, mga tao dili ka surf sa Internet. The government blocks sites that contain articles about freedom, democracy, liberty, etc. No outside contact. I know this because I have colleagues (lecturers) who are Burmese.
Romans 10:9
"That if you shall confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus, and shall believe in your heart that God has raised him from the dead, you shall be saved."

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Happy


Lawyers - it's about enjoyment of liberty
Doctors - it's about enjoyment of life
Liberty is just part of life
But what is life without liberty?

condensada, milkmaid nalang  :D
"There's no perfect life, but we can let God fill it with perfect moments"

..yadz..

a person with a good heart will be a better politician jud..i dont think mg matter ang iya profession. ayaw lang pud ang boxer ha...hehehe!
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Lorenzo

One perfect example of a physician-turned-politician is Dr. Ron Paul.

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Vistabel

Lawyer parang may alam sa balaud.
ang Doctor sa health center.

pariente ko, 7th placer sa bar exam,  product sa DWC Tagbilaran at mid 80's also a Dean /DWC, barang daw gikamatyan at his age about 50 yrs old. Gibarang daw sa contra sa iyang gidipensahang kaso.


Lorenzo


Lawyer parang may alam sa balaud.
ang Doctor sa health center.

pariente ko, 7th placer sa bar exam,  product sa DWC Tagbilaran at mid 80's also a Dean /DWC, barang daw gikamatyan at his age about 50 yrs old. Gibarang daw sa contra sa iyang gidipensahang kaso.



There is no such thing as a Physician-Surgeon who does not know Law.

Aside from our extensive training in Medical School Proper (4 years): the first two years are set in understanding sold basic medical science and proficiency in Morals and Ethics Classes, and a class on integrative Medicine and Law, which teaches and elaborates what the power of the Physician is and how it applies to the population. As the Guardians of Society, the Physician is the shepherd of Health Care, the role of the Physician-Surgeon is increasing and his awareness on Laws that affect his patients, his powers, is quite extensive. The latter two (our 3rd and 4th years) are spent in the clinical setting in the understanding and implementation of: General Surgery, Family Practice, Internal Medicine, Pediatrics, Psychiatry and numerous specialty elective. And throughout this, our proficiency in law must be understood and expected. Following Medicine Proper, the Physician goes further Medical-Legal understanding throughout his Residency years (3-5 years), and then later on to proceed with Supra-Specialty Training.

Ours is the profession of 'never-ending studying, reading, discussing...'

Here in the United States, it is required that all Medical Students, Medical Interns have proficiency in the Law, as we are tested not only on medical science, but also on Legal prerogatives and its relation to Medicine.

Physicians are not only doctors of medicine, but some go on to become professors of medicine, teachers of health science, business owners, research scientists, as well as politics.


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cujo

True Lorenzo.Even my dentist has a law degree.Always has two titles in the calling card!

Lorenzo


True Lorenzo.Even my dentist has a law degree.Always has two titles in the calling card!

hehe, everyone in medicine is proceeding with an additional degree. I just think that Doctors / Medical Students have an innate sadist in them, and I speak as a Medical Intern. We love to torture ourselves with studies and extensive 'training'. I once was in a review with a Neuro-Surgeon from the Middle East, this man complained about how much time it took him to finish and that as soon as he finished the American Boards, he would like to practice as soon as possible (he used his kids and family as pretense to work as soon as possible,..again understandable). After the review course, he joked (and was being serious): "I would like to later specialize in Gastroenterology, as i always wanted to be one, not surgery...."

Note: gastroenterology supraspecialty fellowship is another 3-4 years (depending on location, but 4 years is average).

My Preceptor for Pathology, Dr. Barone, has his M.D, but also has his MBA, and a Master's in Communication.

There is no such thing as a "im just a doctor". Doctors now-a-days in the United States are very well-rounded professionals.

:)
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Lorenzo


Lawyer.They are a good speaker.

Ang differensiya ani, is that some lawyers will speak a lie, and tell a lie,..

The doctor is forbidden to lie to patients and is bound by Hippa Laws, The Oath, and Ethics Rules and Regs.
(the doctor who willfully falsifies information and deliberately lies risks the removal of his medical practice, termination of his occupation, and the jeopardizing of 12+ years of professional studies/training........)

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cujo


Ang differensiya ani, is that some lawyers will speak a lie, and tell a lie,..

The doctor is forbidden to lie to patients and is bound by Hippa Laws, The Oath, and Ethics Rules and Regs.
(the doctor who willfully falsifies information and deliberately lies risks the removal of his medical practice, termination of his occupation, and the jeopardizing of 12+ years of professional studies/training........)


They have

Ang differensiya ani, is that some lawyers will speak a lie, and tell a lie,..

The doctor is forbidden to lie to patients and is bound by Hippa Laws, The Oath, and Ethics Rules and Regs.
(the doctor who willfully falsifies information and deliberately lies risks the removal of his medical practice, termination of his occupation, and the jeopardizing of 12+ years of professional studies/training........)


They have to lie Lorenzo.When they go to court they're not gonna say"your honor my client is guilty".He he he.Otherwise they are the ones who would raise their right hand  when the bailiff says"
Do you swear to tell the truth and nothing but the truth so help me God"..

statesville

To be a better local gov't executive or  any position of authority
  a person does not necessarily be a doctor or a lawyer, any
  field of academic achievement will do as long as he/she meets  the criteria of a true leader.

A good leader has an exemplary character.
It is of utmost importance that a leader is trustworthy to lead others.
A leader needs to be trusted and be known to live their life with honestly and integrity.
A good leader “walks the talk” and in doing so earns the right to have responsibility for others.
True authority is born from respect for the good character
    and trustworthiness of the person who leads.
Every Christian has GPS -God-Provided Salvation!
It may not guide you to everywhere you want to go in this world, but it will ensure  that you arrive safely in heaven.

Lorenzo


They haveThey have to lie Lorenzo.When they go to court they're not gonna say"your honor my client is guilty".He he he.Otherwise they are the ones who would raise their right hand  when the bailiff says"
Do you swear to tell the truth and nothing but the truth so help me God"..

So very true, Cujo, and in this case this is called a legitimized 'LIE'.
I know a person who is in Law School , a really good friend of mine, who is going into Law for Prosecution with an interest in Family Law. She is quite exemplary, unlike some of her cohorts who will do anything, and i mean anything, to win a case.

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In regards the original question, I believe that it shouldn't matter if he or she is a lawyer or a physician. But for me, I think one who can best govern would be one who has administrative skills (a nursing director, principal, teacher (educator),  doctor , public policy maker, manager, an attorney) can be one.

The secret to a successful political career is knowing what you believe in and sticking by the decision (to best represent the will of the constituency who elected you), good oratory skills, proficiency in administration and managing the bureaucratic red tape, working as a team, transparency in all that you do in regards to public office. And most of all, To remain calm under fire.


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islander

naay doctor nga mayor sa usa ka lungsod karon.  naay abogado nga mayor sa usa ka siyudad karon.  tigmo:  kinsa ang namutol ug kahoy ug kinsa ang naay security force nga nanghasi? 

lab-asero na lang kaha ang atong chief executive who can do an honest day's job?
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-<GEC348>-



Hmmm.... interesting discussion...



Now Bohol is going to have a Governor who is a lawyer (again)
and a Vice Governor who is a doctor (the current one is also a lawyer)

;D
This smacks of a grand conspiracy to hide the non-existent, to identify the nameless, to paint a picture of the unseen. -- Benelynne

david


Lawyer parang may alam sa balaud.
ang Doctor sa health center.

pariente ko, 7th placer sa bar exam,  product sa DWC Tagbilaran at mid 80's also a Dean /DWC, barang daw gikamatyan at his age about 50 yrs old. Gibarang daw sa contra sa iyang gidipensahang kaso.


hahahahahha pag nangasilyas bai naglugwa ba ang mga bojog
hmmmmm

vrglguapo


naay doctor nga mayor sa usa ka lunkgsod karon.  naay abogado nga mayor sa usa ka siyudad karon.  tigmo:  kinsa ang namutol ug kahoy ug kinsa ang naay security force nga nanghasi? 

lab-asero na lang kaha ang atong chief executive who can do an honest day's job?
kanang mga labasero limbongan sab na ang timbangan dili saxto unya ug malipat ka hatagan ka ug dobuk nga isda.. 8)

Vistabel


vrglguapo


Doctor kay kanunay kakita ug tinago-an nga treasures.

Doctor ra diay :-\