Deja Vu

Started by junayag, September 03, 2007, 12:19:32 AM

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junayag


... the feeling that one has witnessed or experienced a new situation previously (remembering the future).  Have you encountered this?  Let's demystify...

ms da binsi

I had, many times... I read an article that our memories did not come from the brain at all but form our DNA, so kung ang akong great grands has been to a place before does that mean nga we will somehow remember it bisan wa ta kaadto??? i'm fascinated by this topic. Im sure mo taas ni nga thread.....

Lorenzo



... the feeling that one has witnessed or experienced a new situation previously (remembering the future).  Have you encountered this?  Let's demystify...

An explanation for déjà vu is that there is a slight malfunctioning between the long and short-term memory circuits of the brain. Somehow, specific information shortcuts its way from short to long-term memory storage, bypassing the usual mechanisms used for storage transfer. The details concerning this shortcut are not yet well understood. When this new, recent piece of information is drawn upon, the person thinks that the piece is coming from long-term storage and so must have come from the distant past. A similar theory says that the error is in the timing of the perceptive and cognitive processes. Sensory information is rerouted on its way to memory storage and, so, is not immediately perceived. This short delay causes the sensation of experiencing and remembering something at the same time, a very unsettling feeling. One other explanation is that déjà vu is actually the process of remembering memory connections, of following the impulses and synapses. All of these neurobiologically based explanations for déjà vu seem plausible and intriguing and perhaps there is some overlap or combination that accounts for the different experiences we call déjà vu.

Dejavu, or as what myself and other scientists would say is the epitome of the complex nature of the central and peripheral nervous system, the abilities within the cognitive self--and the beauty of the human body.

How brilliant and intelligent is our God, who willed us to be who we are ;)

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ms da binsi

Buttom line, that is...

udtohan

deja vu... then lahi pud ang nostalgia,.

ms da binsi

unsa man pod diay ang nostalgia???

ms da binsi

ang ako pod nahibaw-an nga deja vu kay ang kanta.... pero wa man gyud naka tugkad ana ba? puro ra man na speculation.... pareho ra na sa damgo nga wa gyud nakatugkad...

Lorenzo


unsa man pod diay ang nostalgia???

Nostalgia is when a person (it could be you, me, anyone really) remembers a particular person, thing, place, group of peope, location, event--which was stored within the cognitive processes of the central nervous system the brain--something in the external environment initiates/ induces the person to recall those recorded events.
Hence there nostalgia.

A particular example of this, Belle, is say you meet someone that is from Mindanao and you guys were talking about the fiestas you went to--and the person you were talking to mentioned the word 'diniguan' and automatically--your cognitive system triggers your brain to recall memories associated with 'diniguan' per se experiences you had with your family and friends back in Mindanao dealing with diniguan.  As a result of the immediate flooding of images of past events, loved ones, friends etc--your body reacts to it with awe, emotionality (which is manifested in either crying ((which is a result of stressed glands within the obicularis oculi and obicularis oris of the orbitory tract in the muscofacial system)).

As a result, nostalgia is manifested.


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The limbic system is a complex set of structures that lies on both sides and underneath the thalamus, just under the cerebrum.  It includes the hypothalamus, the hippocampus, the amygdala, and several other nearby areas.  It appears to be primarily responsible for our emotional life, and has a lot to do with the formation of memories. In particular, the hypothalamus is responsible for regulating your hunger, thirst, response to pain, levels of pleasure, sexual satisfaction, anger and aggressive behavior, and more.  It also regulates the functioning of the parasympathetic and sympathetic nervous systems, which in turn means it regulates things like pulse, blood pressure, breathing, and arousal in response to emotional circumstances.

The hypothalamus sends instructions to the rest of the body in two ways.  The first is to the autonomic nervous system.  This allows the hypothalamus to have ultimate control of things like blood pressure, heartrate, breathing, digestion, sweating, and all the sympathetic and parasympathetic functions.

The other way the hypothalamus controls things is via the pituitary gland.  It is neurally and chemically connected to the pituitary, which in turn pumps hormones called releasing factors into the bloodstream.  As you know, the pituitary is the so-called “master gland,” and these hormones are vitally important in regulating growth and metabolism--and contribute to memory retrieval due to external causatives.



Hope that helps and explains.




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Gervistill

me, i had.. maybe because my numerology is 11..means

aware
six-sensed  
creative
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dreamy
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intense
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junayag



deja vu...

when our body rests in sleep...our soul travels the cosmos...when your sixth sense is strong... you get to remember the scenarios, the people, the objects that you've when your soul separates the body... that is why sometimes we feel we are a reincarnation of somebody... from a monarchy, of an animal, etc... hence, when you meet your katapat ( soulmate ), you will sing "deja vu", hehehe

hazel



sometimes, when visiting place for a first time, you feel that sense of familiarity...like you've been there before. haha i wonder when will i sing de javuuuuu! :D

junayag



ginger that's deja vu........... diba sometimes, ang mga words nga imong gilitok mura ug familiar sad... wala ba mang lingbawot imong balahibo????

sometimes you considered these as nice memories with someone you didn't know but close to your heart? wag lang yong mga horrible scenes ha?

hazel


wala man mang limbawot akong balhibo...but it felt weird.

what i want to feel is the soul mate thing...I have a friend, he claimed that I was his soul mate. Tanan namo gi huna-huna and gi buhat, magka takdo gyod permi. It went on for like 2yrs. But I didn't call it soul mate, but mere co-incidence.

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I feel like have already read the discussions in this board 3 weeks ago... have I travelled into the future? Or is this deja vu?

de ko valu. . .
This smacks of a grand conspiracy to hide the non-existent, to identify the nameless, to paint a picture of the unseen. -- Benelynne

ms da binsi

di ka valu? hahahhahahahahhahhaahahahhahhaahaahahhahha

junayag



yes it could be coincidencies.... but when coincidencies come frequently... is deja vu...

hazel

so you think, it was deja vu?

junayag



a mere coincidence is not deja vu, but occurences in frequencies are manifestations of deja vu....

Happy

kita na mo sa movie nga de javu? basin makatabang to ug explain nato kung unsa pa jud ang uban nga kahulugan ana :)

nindot pud kanta dionne warwick nga de javu :)
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Gervistill

happy karaan naman diay gyud ka oi...hehehe
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Happy

hehehe mga karaan man jud nga kanta ang akong mga ganahan paminawon kanunay Gerv :D
"There's no perfect life, but we can let God fill it with perfect moments"

ms da binsi

Ako diay Haps, sulay ko anang binag-o sa mga batan-on, di man gyud na music para nako. mora ra man ug nagyaw2x... nga gibutangan ug background   hahahhaha ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

Happy

Ay, Belle, kanang saba kaayo nga mga kanta ron nga tagubtob ra sa drum madungog ug naa pay plaka nga tuyok tuyokon hehehe, dili ko angay ana oi.. pero usahay mokuyog ko sa ako bana kung naa siyay e-cover nga concert, sakit lagi sa dwanggan inig human.
"There's no perfect life, but we can let God fill it with perfect moments"

ms da binsi

pero naay kanta si Mary J Blige nga akong ganahan, ning hit gani to, mao ra to akong ganahan sa binag-o...

Happy

ah, wala ko kaila ana hehehe
"There's no perfect life, but we can let God fill it with perfect moments"

Gervistill

@happy
ang aho ganahan sa mga kanta ni Dioni kay duha raman "i know ill never love this way again" ug "That's what friends are for" wala man kko ka dungog sa DE JAmo
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junayag



ang pag angay sa mga kanta depende na sa imong personality, outlook and receptiveness...  when the song gives its meaning and could relative to your own, then the song regardless of what type makes sense to you....

Happy


@happy
ang aho ganahan sa mga kanta ni Dioni kay duha raman "i know ill never love this way again" ug "That's what friends are for" wala man kko ka dungog sa DE JAmo

diara

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYzDBfKnhqY
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Gervistill

o ako na na download sa you tube
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Happy

okies, paminawa na hehe
"There's no perfect life, but we can let God fill it with perfect moments"

Happy

"There's no perfect life, but we can let God fill it with perfect moments"

junayag



di ba nindot ang kanta ni dionne warwick, the lyrics....

ms da binsi

Dinhi baya na sha last month, nakalimot ko ug tan-aw, nahinumdom ko human na...

junayag



dionne warwick is one of the greatest singers for me... am sure she had some deja vus....

ms da binsi

mao ra kuno gihapo ijang tingug wa mo lubad bisan guwang na, kita akong brothr in law...

junayag



naalagaan gyod niya ug maayo, she has a sense of discipline not compared with other artists...

tingalig siya namortalize of a past immortal singer??? hehehe, deja vu again...

Happy

ganahan jud ko sa mga kanta ni dionne warwick oui
"There's no perfect life, but we can let God fill it with perfect moments"

junayag



unsa uban nindot iya kanta happy? aron magka nostalgia ko...

Happy

hahaha, adto ra nako e post sa favourite song nga thread kay ma out of topic ta diri
"There's no perfect life, but we can let God fill it with perfect moments"

ms da binsi


ganahan jud ko sa mga kanta ni dionne warwick oui

di sha pareha adtogn kalkag ug buhok, (diana ross)

hazel



unsa uban nindot iya kanta happy? aron magka nostalgia ko...

hahaha si sir! naa ko nahi baw-an...it's  One in a Million You....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42L9YUDG41s&mode=related&search=

hirit ni...sorry


junayag



oi dili gyod ka off topic, because it seems that I am experiecing a deja vu talking with you....

hazel


aw mao bah, sir! haha mao diay ni deja vu, di kaha ta ani ma javu?

ms da binsi

hahahahha w apa ko maulii sa joke ni Barbaro naa napod ni si Bambi, syeeet!!!

junayag



majavu.... mayabo ( mayaboan ug sabaw ) hahahaha basta dili lang init...

Happy

kuya, tuana ang mga dionne warwick ako na na-upload
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hazel


bitaw, i'm fascinated with the idea of feeling deja vu...sir, walay sabaw nga dili init..hehe

ms da binsi

huy ginoo kana inyung mga kanta maka pamingaw ug samot sa pinas... hu hu hu hu

junayag


thank you happy, am listening while am scribbling down the words to share in TB... its fascinating to have a family who listens....

Happy

you're welcome kuya, naa pay daghan ana, pero ikaw nalay maniho hehe
"There's no perfect life, but we can let God fill it with perfect moments"

junayag



sometimes we need or long to experience a deja vu.. to spice up something that is established and inclined to boredom... for when you experience deja vu... you try to dig up the mystery of it....

Bambi

DEJA VU - is an phychological experenced.  Can I consider my personal stress encountering daily work as DEJA VU?  As what had understood from Lorenzo's explanation, it is a sort of malfunctioning in brain....or something which is repeteadly occured or just        mentally disordered?
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Bambi

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junayag



it is not a disorder...it has something to do with strong memory that even when youre on total sleep you sensor records what your soul / spirit has met when it travels.. hence it is like remembering your future...

Bambi

seems to be dreaming while awake?
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hazel


DEJA VU - is an phychological experenced.  Can I consider my personal stress encountering daily work as DEJA VU?  As what had understood from Lorenzo's explanation, it is a sort of malfunctioning in brain....or something which is repeteadly occured or just  mentally disordered?

brain lapse na Bambi...padung na nas pagka bu****...hehehe joke!

junayag



bambi what you're saying is daydreaming...wherein you have presence of mind... but in deja vu, you're totally detached....

Bambi

Hi pretty girl Ginger,

Na mora, I hope I got the worng symptoms! ;D ;D ;D

Hello Junayag,

Until now, I must have to examine first myself whether have/had experienced this..... am really helpless as to how DEJA VU influenced my actual condition.
Best regards
Bambi

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hazel


Hi pretty girl Ginger,

Na mora, I hope I got the worng symptoms! ;D ;D ;D


hehehehe I love you, Bambi.

junayag



unknowingly, am sure you've experienced deja vu....surprisingly you didn't have one?

Bambi

i dig it more and more..... but it complicates my innermost capacity of understanding hence in your above-citation stated therein....."it is like remembering your future" - can you explain this to me in a simple way please! thanks
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Bambi

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slackware

feeling of having already experienced the present situation. something tediously familiar.
"All that is needed for evil to succeed is, that decent human beings doing nothing". (Edmund Burke)

ms da binsi

Bams, kana bang morag nakita na nimo ang usa ka lugar nga wa pa gani ka kaadto, like me naay lugar diri sa america nga akong naadtoad and then it seemed nga nakaari naman ko diri... or experience something nga wa pa nimo mabuhat, mao na sija...i expereinced that many times...

hazel


Bambi, pwede pud nimo ma feel ang deja vu sa usa ka tawo. Like, first time nimo na meet ang usa ka tawo pero feeling nimo naka ila naka niya before...

Bambi

Yes darling, it did happened to me too often meeting someone the first time?....or i knew him and i just forget his name?

I think....hmmmmmmm....i am too realistic.  Too real to feel that you are here.

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Bambi

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junayag



yes bambi, all what they're saying is correct.... why it is remembering the future because you're really 100% sure nga wala pa na nimo nabuhat, nabisita o nakita, nakaestorya, ug uban pa pero it is too close and familiar to you ( even to the point nga dunay mga linya nga imong gisulti nga remember nimo exactly the same )....

Bambi

Thanks for the explanation Jun..... I am not sure if this is DEJA VU!

I used to think and remember in a small island in Inabanga (is there an small island there?) as if was already there during my childhood but am not sure....sigi ko ug kahinumdom nga molakad ko ug tangki sa fishpond didto, di ra ba ko siguro if i was there for a fiesta visit by a relatives.   Must have to ask my mother inig-uli na naho pohon sa Pasko ug this island with relatives is existing. I hope she can help me...she is now hingalimtanon kay mag 85 na tawon sa Nov. In case, the imagination is true than  it is not considered as DEJA VU?? :-\ :-\.
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hazel


Bambi, I saw a documentary about re-incarnation. These people dreamed and imagined places they've never been in their lives, they were able to describe specifically the places and the people and found out that they were re-incarnated. Very strange kay they live in very opposite worlds. But re-incarnation is totally different than deja vu...:)

ms da binsi

Ginger what documentary??? can you tell me??? asap...

hazel


dugay naman to bella. high school pa ko sa discovery channel. about re-incarnation...

junayag



re-incarnation and deja vu are different... yet they have similar manifestations... characteristics....in the sense that coincidencies prevail in frequencies and accuracy...

ms da binsi

jun would you believe in re-incarnation???

buenavista


kita na mo sa movie nga de javu? basin makatabang to ug explain nato kung unsa pa jud ang uban nga kahulugan ana :)

nindot pud kanta dionne warwick nga de javu :)

nakatan-aw nako ana na movie cel,malibog sad ko oi kung dili gyud nimo sabton

junayag



yes, I believe in re-incarnation....though I have not encountered yet...I have that feeling that when a person left in this world with unfinished agenda, and when his/her spirit at the time it detached from his/her body travels and accidentally met a human soul of almost perfect resemblance of the past, then enters the body and become an instrument to continue.. ( if given God's blessings )....

ms da binsi

bitaw no?? wa pa man gyud nakatugkad ana...

hazel


I believe in re-incarnation, too! But how about being re-incarnated as an animal?

ms da binsi

mao man kuno na??? naa pod diay animal nga wa pa mahuman ang iyang mission no? dayun naligsan, sama sa mga deer sa karsada???

hazel


ms da binsi

ajaw intawon kay mingawon mi ninyo....

Happy


nakatan-aw nako ana na movie cel,malibog sad ko oi kung dili gyud nimo sabton

nindot gen?
"There's no perfect life, but we can let God fill it with perfect moments"

buenavista

nindot baya!maminaw lang jud ka ug ayaw pangurap sa imo mata hehe ::)

Happy

basin tan-aw pud mi ana hehe
"There's no perfect life, but we can let God fill it with perfect moments"

ms da binsi

unsa may tan awon ninjo???

junayag



unsa manan-aw ta kon duna bay mo reincarnate dinhi sa TB?  hehehe, wala pa gani nato matugkad ang deja vu......

Happy

Tan-aw mi ug Deja vu nga movie :)
"There's no perfect life, but we can let God fill it with perfect moments"

junayag



hap,
unsa title sa movie? nindot ba?

Happy

Kuya Deja Vu ang title sa movie, wala pa ko kakita si Genelyn aka buenavista ang nakltan-aw na
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Bambi

Hi Ladies! am here.......

I am back being re-incarnated..........by the way, i feel i will be after death appear like my avatar....hapohapa baja ko ninjo. ;D
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Happy

ayaw pamahit te kay hapuhapaon ka namo ;D
"There's no perfect life, but we can let God fill it with perfect moments"

junayag




kung duna unya ma reincarnatan nato.... pahibalo unya mo ha..?. hehehehe

ako daghan nang occasions nga na experience nako ang deja vu... hadlok gani ko tingalig duna unya ko sixth sense...

ms da binsi

is that sixth sense Jun??? i experienced it a lot too, and i thought was i alive before i was conceived??

slackware

you need to see a psychic to know whether you have been reincarnated or not...
"All that is needed for evil to succeed is, that decent human beings doing nothing". (Edmund Burke)

ms da binsi

would they know??? i dont think so...

junayag



would a psychic or visionary tell that?  but I believe, kita mismo makasulti based on a continuity or replication of a scene or situation....

slackware

some psychics like madame rosa claimed that they can induce a mild hypnotism on a person and send him into a dreamlike state where he can go through his past or future life...
"All that is needed for evil to succeed is, that decent human beings doing nothing". (Edmund Burke)

junayag



have anyone here in TB has seeked assistance from a psychic and undergone hypnotism? would you mind share with us....

Bambi




kung duna unya ma reincarnatan nato.... pahibalo unya mo ha..?. hehehehe

ako daghan nang occasions nga na experience nako ang deja vu... hadlok gani ko tingalig duna unya ko sixth sense...

I believe Jun...if you have an extra sense aside....you have the power to heal (physical and mental)
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Bambi

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hazel



have anyone here in TB has seeked assistance from a psychic and undergone hypnotism? would you mind share with us....

Wala jud ko ka experience...murag hadlok man. I didn't even dare the tarot cards.

ms da binsi

i tried hypnotism it but it didnt work for me, wa gyud ko katulog...powerful kaajo akong utok to control myself...



my banana has undergone one time last year for several session, kay session2x man diay na. its a long story man...
he shoots pool with the pros and his problem nga usahay ma distructed sha when he is almost winning, mao nga nag pa hypnotized sha,(which he knew nga silang Tiger and some pros did the same thing), i think it was intersting, although di ko pwede kasulod sa therapy room but i know it could help...

junayag



it's true ms da binsi, powerful kaayo atong brain that if we think not to sleep and only keep thinking on something that interest you... you will last long...

ms da binsi

i agree and that is sometimes i think of believing the Dianetics ni Ron Hubbard kay ang ato ra man gyud ang utok root of all ilnesses, happiness etc...