How to become a Haciendero

[Lorenzo]

So, how does one become a haciendero?

[luckybelle]

So, how does one become a haciendero?

One must own hacienda... hehehe... like my granddada

[luckybelle]

So, how does one become a haciendero?

Y? Interested?

[Lorenzo]

hehe, i like the idea of owning a vast amount of fertile land and producing rice, corn, sugar cane, and growing other kinds of vegetables.

[Lorenzo]

Y? Interested?

I wonder how much it would cost to own say, 30-50 hectares of fertile farm land.

[luckybelle]

I wonder how much it would cost to own say, 30-50 hectares of fertile farm land.

50 hectares planted with coconut is worth 800,000- 1M Php, plus maintenance, plus seedlings for new plants, plus animal stocks for animal raising...
hmmm.... di tanto dako

[Lorenzo]

Salamat, Belle. The beauty of owning a hacienda, from my experience in visiting around the basaks in Valencia and in around Northern Bohol as well is that one never has to worry about a lack of food, or income, because it is a renewable resource. Land is wealth.

Lami pood if one has a hacienda as large as 50+ hectares so one can plant and grow rice, maize, sugar cane, and the lot.

[Lorenzo]

50 hectares planted with coconut is worth 800,000- 1M Php, plus maintenance, plus seedlings for new plants, plus animal stocks for animal raising...
hmmm.... di tanto dako

Dako bitaw ni, pero, with proper land management, and maintenance, and ample productivity, the gains will offset the costs.

Land Owning is a good investment plan, imho.

[Raquelproud boholana]

Dako bitaw ni, pero, with proper land management, and maintenance, and ample productivity, the gains will offset the costs.

Land Owning is a good investment plan, imho.

Marry a farmer daughter hehehhe mao ni advice jud permi sa farm forum akong mabasahan hehehe. I will worship the land you walk with 2000 acres of them lol.

[Lorenzo]

hahaha! Raquel, speaking of farm, I am in Chicago baya! Naa ko diri sa Uptown area, serving in Jackson Park Hospital and LA Weiss Hospital.
Pwede ba mo bisita ko sa imong hacienda during vacay time? hehe!
Mag EB ta!


On your statement tho, a farmer's daughter is quite hard to come by here in the Windy City. But I must say, i must say , indeed, driving past the vast acreage of Indiana, Ohio, Eastern Illinois truly allowed me to appreciate the 'beauty' of the Bread Basket. hehe!


It is truly a different setting compared to Suburbian Southern New Jersey; or the urbanized lifestyle in Chicago.

[Raquelproud boholana]

Kasagaran baya sa mga doctors,nurses diri sa midwest Bran mga anak ug farmers kay mostly baya ani nila ing choose to leave the farm but bisan dili sila part sa farm operation pero naa ni silay mga  inheritance  sa farm. Amoang family doctor anak ug farmer nga iya amahan silingan namo ma shock unya ka kay bisan wala ni sila sa farm pero ilang background is farming.Kato didto ko sa kansas unya nasakit akong anak nagbakasyon mi ang nurse nga nag atiman sa akong anak ingon niya gikan daw siya sa among area kay farmer pud iya father.
Segi welcome ka mobisita diri sa among farm ug naa kay bakasyon. Excited ko kay 3 and half hour drive ra baya ang chicago gikan sa amoa. Basin makaanha mi chicago ingnon ra unya ta ka kay every winter usahay molugsong mi diha sa windy city magsuroy suroy.

[Lorenzo]

Raquel, your family are more than welcome to spend the night in my apartment, as I am staying in residential uptown. A bit pricey ang area, pero, since i will be here for the next 2+ years for clinical rotations , okey lang! hehe. I am excited to show you guys around the area, because the place where i stay is near the lake, and there is a 20+ mile long bike/walking path that is lined with trees ; the sights and places here are amazing. Near the region where I live is a large vietnamese, chinese, filipino and italian, polish community. I guess thats the beauty of Chicago, it being such a metropolis and mixed with so many ethnic cultures, tastes that gives this metropolis an eclectic feel. Clean and urban. Sige! Consider my home your home if you ever come to visit.

I would love to visit your farm; and to appreciate the beauty that is Illinois; the Bread Basket State!

You know, it would be a great decision to practice medicine in this area, too, considering the need of doctors here, and the really great life style; not to say the cost of living is excellent. Oh I bet the doctors you know in the area are really hospitable , Raquel. I know some friends who are doing their veterinary rotations in this region.

hehe!

[Raquelproud boholana]

Ang nakanindot diri sa Midwest Bran kay daghan pud filipino doctors. The nearest biggest hospital namo is in Springfield the Capital of Illinois about 35 miles gikan sa amo. Daghan filipino doctor specialist didto ug nurses unya sa mga rural area daghan napud filipino doctor ang naay kaugalingon practice gani among pediatrician is Filipina Dr. Lourdes Cruz akong mga anak instead doctor itawag niya moingon ug Nanay Doctor heheheh. Dalaga pa baya ni si Dr. Cruz cute nga gwapa. Naa mi area hospital diri pud nga mga filipino ug japanese ang doctors. Sa St. Louis area daghan pud sila didto.
I will let you know puhon makaanha mi sa windy city. Ka nice ba sa imong lugar diay diha.

[Lorenzo]

hehehe mao ba? Ka cute kaajo ang gi tawag, "Nanay Doctor" ha ha ha!
Yes, I would love to see you guys. I still cannot believe little Jacob is already so big!

I did not know that there was such a large Filipino medical community in the area, Raquel. Now I know.
Thank You!

[luckybelle]

Salamat, Belle. The beauty of owning a hacienda, from my experience in visiting around the basaks in Valencia and in around Northern Bohol as well is that one never has to worry about a lack of food, or income, because it is a renewable resource. Land is wealth.

Lami pood if one has a hacienda as large as 50+ hectares so one can plant and grow rice, maize, sugar cane, and the lot.

Ya... hehehe... you're welcome.... plus it's always a lovely place... always romantic... and the air is always fresh 

[ms da binsi]

hacienda is what we called baul or umahan sa mindanao or farm in Merika. to become a farmer, one must have a farm.

[vrglguapo]

Ug may kwarta nga gina piko at gina pala..prokss..

[Lorenzo]

Ya... hehehe... you're welcome.... plus it's always a lovely place... always romantic... and the air is always fresh 

hehe , indeed. away from the hum drums of the city life. when i was in bohol, i preferred being in valencia than in tagbilaran.
Driving to valencia was always a trip for me; with my windows down, the sound of jeepneys, the smell of the fresh air, and overtaking the pedi cabs. lol.

Passing from Dimiao to my beloved Valencia as I entered the arch that proclaims, "Welcome to Valencia/ Viva Valencia!" hehe. Then the wooden arches that exclaims, "Viva Santo Nino!". Home. My hometown of Valencia.

I miss her. 

[luckybelle]

hehe , indeed. away from the hum drums of the city life. when i was in bohol, i preferred being in valencia than in tagbilaran.
Driving to valencia was always a trip for me; with my windows down, the sound of jeepneys, the smell of the fresh air, and overtaking the pedi cabs. lol.

Passing from Dimiao to my beloved Valencia as I entered the arch that proclaims, "Welcome to Valencia/ Viva Valencia!" hehe. Then the wooden arches that exclaims, "Viva Santo Nino!". Home. My hometown of Valencia.

I miss her. 

Ya, been there and I miss her too... one day mobakasyon ko ug balik didto.

[Lorenzo]

naa man pood mi ug gagmayng hacienda sa Valencia hehe, not 50 hectares, pero quite sizeable pood. When I visited Valencia, i went there to visit my lolo's basaks as well as my parents' basaks. Fertile green. Talking to our caretakers and seeing the carabao(s) that tilled our farm. hehe.
The best part is visiting the basak early in the morning, just before the sunrise. Fresh humay from Valencia is one of the best.

I exceptionally enjoyed being with the farmers, only because i used to plant rice with my grandfather and my grand-uncles when i was younger. So the memory of being there was richly ingrained in my mind, and being there walking there was enjoyable. Talking to the farmers, and listening to them. At the time I visited, there was a dry season (early july) but by the second time i visited (late july), the rains had come and had filled our rice land with life-giving rain. It was amazing seeing everyone planting the rice, and the stories being overheard. I did not even know those people but they knew me, my lolo, and my parents. And how their grand parents knew my lolo's grand parents etc. Humbling experience.

Many times they would tell me not to plant rice kai 'luoy pood ka sir', ingoon pood ko balik, 'dili oy, kamo may luoy kalingaw mo trabajo sa basak nga init kaajo. mo testing lang gud ko unsa man ning kinabuhi sa basak...' katawa sila , katawa pood ko. so i experienced life as a basak farmer for that short time. working with our caretakers.

I loved it there.

[luckybelle]

naa man pood mi ug gagmayng hacienda sa Valencia hehe, not 50 hectares, pero quite sizeable pood. When I visited Valencia, i went there to visit my lolo's basaks as well as my parents' basaks. Fertile green. Talking to our caretakers and seeing the carabao(s) that tilled our farm. hehe.
The best part is visiting the basak early in the morning, just before the sunrise. Fresh humay from Valencia is one of the best.

I exceptionally enjoyed being with the farmers, only because i used to plant rice with my grandfather and my grand-uncles when i was younger. So the memory of being there was richly ingrained in my mind, and being there walking there was enjoyable. Talking to the farmers, and listening to them. At the time I visited, there was a dry season (early july) but by the second time i visited (late july), the rains had come and had filled our rice land with life-giving rain. It was amazing seeing everyone planting the rice, and the stories being overheard. I did not even know those people but they knew me, my lolo, and my parents. And how their grand parents knew my lolo's grand parents etc. Humbling experience.

Many times they would tell me not to plant rice kai 'luoy pood ka sir', ingoon pood ko balik, 'dili oy, kamo may luoy kalingaw mo trabajo sa basak nga init kaajo. mo testing lang gud ko unsa man ning kinabuhi sa basak...' katawa sila , katawa pood ko. so i experienced life as a basak farmer for that short time. working with our caretakers.

I loved it there.

hmmm... mingawon man pud ta ani sa kabasakan... So you have smelled the fresh grass leaves then... kakaiba ija smell... labi na pag e-mowed... hehehe... I like its scent 

[Lorenzo]

Yes, yes and yes! I love the smell. I love the smell of freshly picked humay. I love the feel of walking in the basak, talking to the caretakers, and just overseeing the work. There is an unexplainable sense of contentedness in farming. It's just a natural feeling.

The smell of the fresh air in Valencia and the cool breeze when i drove up to barangay anas , barangay manga. Its truly different from the hot smog and the smell of polluted air in Tagbilaran.

And the countless times I've sat on the banks of Valencia to witness the picturesque sunsets...
mingawon...

[luckybelle]

Yes, yes and yes! I love the smell. I love the smell of freshly picked humay. I love the feel of walking in the basak, talking to the caretakers, and just overseeing the work. There is an unexplainable sense of contentedness in farming. It's just a natural feeling.

The smell of the fresh air in Valencia and the cool breeze when i drove up to barangay anas , barangay manga. Its truly different from the hot smog and the smell of polluted air in Tagbilaran.

And the countless times I've sat on the banks of Valencia to witness the picturesque sunsets...
mingawon...

Puhon dong Bran... you'll come back to basak.. hehe.. puhon

[Lorenzo]

Some of our coconut and banana trees,





overlooking our rice land,




the sunsets,

[luckybelle]

Very nice photos.... 

[Lorenzo]

Puhon dong Bran... you'll come back to basak.. hehe.. puhon

hehehe, i always look back to Valencia, Belle. Its amazing that despite growing up here in the 'states, americanized completely, yet i identify myself as Valencianon first and foremost. lol!

I am naturally drawn to the beauty there. The people, my family, farm, and just the natural beauty...

I always think of my lolo who is waiting for me there; and the many family members and the family friends.



speaking of lolo, his 84th birthday was on the 26th of October.
I called him to greet him. Ingon sija dayon, "oy si ondoy bran bran" hahaha.
the sound of his voice was strong enough to command my tears to fall... 

I wish i was there to have celebrated his 84th birthday with the rest of our family.

[hubag bohol]

hacienda is what we called baul or umahan sa mindanao or farm in Merika. to become a farmer, one must have a farm.

He he, kahinumdom ko ani sa akong classmate kaniadto nga anak sa usa sa labing dakong haciendero sa Leyte. Gitagsa-tagsa mig pangutana sa among teacher. Kabahin sa occupation of father, ang iyang tubag: farmer...

[ms da binsi]

He he, kahinumdom ko ani sa akong classmate kaniadto nga anak sa usa sa labing dakong haciendero sa Leyte. Gitagsa-tagsa mig pangutana sa among teacher. Kabahin sa occupation of father, ang iyang tubag: farmer...

bright jud ka Hubs!

[hubag bohol]

bright jud ka Hubs!

He he, daghan tang mahinumdoman kay inspiring man gud ang subject... 

[PR0CESS0R]

Murag swerte na jud kaayo ang taw karon nga maka tag-iya ug hacienda nga mahal kaayo ang yuta karon. Maayo lang kong yuta sa mga katigulangan kay possibly pa pero kong karon, dakong kantidad ang e-invest para makapalit ug yuta.

Ako lang nya kuhaa nga mag uuma

[islander]

akong hacienda kay puno ug kamatis.  usa ka kaang.

[islander]

here's what a hacienda is, for me:

1)  10 square kilometers, like that of the chiongbians (shipping magnate) in asturias, cebu.  they bought it from serging osmena junior.  been there.  the owner bought pigs from england for breeding.  they had hundreds of pigs in many buildings.  wherever one looked were endless plots of various veggies.  their swimming pool, though, was unused by humans.  it had hundreds of turtles.  for human consumption.  as i had a pet turtle then, i swore i won't go back to that place for whatever reason.

2)  in negros occidental, where haciendas end at the blue horizon.  within the hacienda is a sugar refinery, like that of jose mari chan's family.  i've passed this singer's family's hacienda many times.  i've never been inside. 

of course, the hacienda of nanding cojuangco (he has one, in negros) has 3 thousand topgrade fighting cocks at any one time, at an average cost of 25k pesos each more than 15 years ago.  i haven't seen this hacienda.  i just heard about it as part of the local lore.

OT:  at that time i acquired six eggs, supposedly from cojuangco's breed of fighting cocks, and had these eggs hatched with the help of a bulb in a box at our living room.  they turned out to be very beautiful fighting cocks, which i kept as pets, what else.  too bad when new years came they got crazy with all the fireworks, i had to bring them to the bedroom for protection.  and i stopped eating chicken and eggs.  something's gotta give.  i gave them away to someone who knows about fighting cocks and who considered himself the luckiest man alive for being the recipient.
             

[Scarb]

bright jud ka Hubs!

ky farmer btw. tawag sa magbabaol alangan ug fisherman nyahaha

[hubag bohol]

akong hacienda kay puno ug kamatis.  usa ka kaang.

He he, if hacienderos prefer to call themselves farmers, kinsa man tuoy magbuot nimo kon naa kay usa ka kaang kamatis unya haciendera imong tawag sa imong kaugalingon... 

[bugsay]

akong hacienda kay puno ug kamatis.  usa ka kaang.

uy, bantay ms isles....dili ka gukdon sa CARP.....pero daghan mangawat sa imong kamatis.

[islander]

He he, if hacienderos prefer to call themselves farmers, kinsa man tuoy magbuot nimo kon naa kay usa ka kaang kamatis unya haciendera imong tawag sa imong kaugalingon... 

wa gyod tuoy magbuot.  magbantay lang hinoon kog silingan nga uroy ug hilasan, idukdok unya ang kaang sa akong ulo.  luoy ang kamatis.

[islander]

ky farmer btw. tawag sa magbabaol alangan ug fisherman nyahaha

ekzakli.  malalim ba pod ug ang fisherman tawgon ug ballerina, fatai.

[islander]

uy, bantay ms isles....dili ka gukdon sa CARP.....pero daghan mangawat sa imong kamatis.

manggukod diay nang isdang carp?  (cornilicious, pina-scarbzy pa, hehe.) 

bitaw, way makaakog kawat sa akong kamatis.  ako nang gibutangan ug lihi.  kanang imong avatar nga dragon akong gipatapot sa kaang.  sayod ang k@watan-to-be nga kun mopadayon siya, magkalibanga gyod siya ug daghang kamatis nga tibuok nga dagko, kanang duha ra buok usa na ka kilo.

[Scarb]

manggukod diay nang isdang carp?  (cornilicious, pina-scarbzy pa, hehe.) 

bitaw, way makaakog kawat sa akong kamatis.  ako nang gibutangan ug lihi.  kanang imong avatar nga dragon akong gipatapot sa kaang.  sayod ang k@watan-to-be nga kun mopadayon siya, magkalibanga gyod siya ug daghang kamatis nga tibuok nga dagko, kanang duha ra buok usa na ka kilo.

Tyahaha gigitik ko Spartybeb§, tiaw bay tag 500gr.ang duha ka kamatiz nga ikalibang?Maau lamang ug preha sa itlog nga humok inig ulyahot sa lobortz sa himongaan unja mogahi ra ug mahanginan na?

[Scarb]

ekzakli.  malalim ba pod ug ang fisherman tawgon ug ballerina, fatai.

regardless unza ka dako ang baol zha? Bazta ky farmer lagi na sya 

[luckybelle]

Haciendero n. Spanish word for landlord/farmer who owns huge area of land.

[Scarb]

Haciendero n. Spanish word for landlord/farmer who owns huge area of land.

Aha now pa ko nga mao diay na Belle  (Gorya)

[luckybelle]

Aha now pa ko nga mao diay na Belle  (Gorya)

Oi, kung maohon naa pud diay paryente si LB Gorya diri dah

[hubag bohol]

wa gyod tuoy magbuot.  magbantay lang hinoon kog silingan nga uroy ug hilasan, idukdok unya ang kaang sa akong ulo.  luoy ang kamatis.

He he, seguroa lang nga dili modiwalwal imong dila... 

[hubag bohol]

Haciendero n. Spanish word for landlord/farmer who owns huge area of land.

Mao ba? I thoughted nga ang buot ipaibot ani kay ang Haciendero Luminoso, kadtong Maoist group sa Peru...

- Nakutaw na tawon ang linugaw ni Botoy...

[luckybelle]

Mao ba? I thoughted nga ang buot ipaibot ani kay ang Haciendero Luminoso, kadtong Maoist group sa Peru...

- Nakutaw na tawon ang linugaw ni Botoy...

Tyahahaha... paryente pud diay najo si grandpa Hubs... shalan... tsa pa ping... grandpa gud...