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ms da binsi · « **on:** August 11, 2009, 11:15:23 AM »

A pow-wow (also powwow or pow wow or pau wau) is a gathering of North America's Native people. The word derives from the Narragansett word powwaw, meaning "spiritual leader".

A modern pow-wow is a specific type of event where both Native American and non-Native American people meet to dance, sing, socialize, and honor American Indian culture. There is generally a dancing competition, often with significant prize money awarded. Pow-wows vary in length from one day session of 5 to 6 hours to three days. Major pow-wows or pow-wows called for a special occasion can be up to one week long.

The term also has been used to describe any gathering of Native Americans of any tribe, and as such is occasionally heard in older Western movies. The word has also been used to refer to a meeting, especially a meeting of powerful people such as officers in the military. However, such use can also be viewed as disrespectful to Native culture.

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ms da binsi · « **Reply #1 on:** August 11, 2009, 11:16:59 AM »

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ms da binsi · « **Reply #3 on:** August 11, 2009, 11:20:36 AM »

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ms da binsi · « **Reply #4 on:** August 11, 2009, 11:22:10 AM »

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ZecurB · « **Reply #5 on:** August 11, 2009, 11:23:01 AM »

Wow! Ang bilis! Abtika ni MDB oist! or ako lang ba kaha maoy naulahi...hehehehe

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ms da binsi · « **Reply #6 on:** August 11, 2009, 11:23:35 AM »

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ms da binsi · « **Reply #7 on:** August 11, 2009, 11:27:21 AM »

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ms da binsi · « **Reply #8 on:** August 11, 2009, 11:28:48 AM »

next: their dances...pahuway sa akong tudlo!

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fdaray · « **Reply #9 on:** August 11, 2009, 11:30:36 AM »

Very colorful extra ordinary customs. ...

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ms da binsi · « **Reply #10 on:** August 11, 2009, 11:35:37 AM »

Lex ug mo appreciate ka ug history mas mo appreciate jud ka sa ilang dances ug music. Di ko maka sabut pero ma feel nimo nga tininuod jud ang ilang gibuhat...

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ZecurB · « **Reply #11 on:** August 11, 2009, 12:06:24 PM »

Yes I agree that their dances are great. Very soulful and intense. From my own simple observations also (I don't know if this is scientifically or anthropologically sound) , the native American Indians have bloodlines with those of the Japanese, I think, because I have seen the offspring of inter-marriages between a Japanese and an native American or central American and one can see that some if not most of their kids look very native Japanese. Would you concur MDB? Or am I just talking or thinking jibberish...

B.T.W., MDB, could you give me some links or comprehensive sites where I could read about these Native American Indians and get immersed in their life, music, culture and maybe even women..hehehehehe.. sori mogawas pud ning kapilyohan nako basta kitag gwapa..

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ms da binsi · « **Reply #12 on:** August 11, 2009, 12:24:40 PM »

Bruce mao ni pinaka sayun sabton nga link. Para nako lang sad. Mao ni Tribe ni banana nako, daghan kaayo klase nga tribes, naay Sioux, Cherokee, Navajo, Winnebago etc, etc, pero ug buot kwentahon usa ra baja tanan mga natives. ug sumpayun gud na tanan paryente ra nato ang mga Indians...

http://www.geo.msu.edu/geogmich/ojibwe.html

http://www.mpm.edu/wirp/ICW-51.html

ug interesado kaayo ka, tagaan pa tika ug lain nga link. Ug maka rent ka ug Video nga 500 Nations that would tell everything.

Basta magpakita ka sa imong pics ipa ila ila tika ug natives diri. O deal?

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TOPAC · « **Reply #13 on:** August 11, 2009, 12:28:09 PM »

luoyas manok gud ini.

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grazie7y · « **Reply #14 on:** August 11, 2009, 12:30:12 PM »

This year I wasn't able to attend the powwow event here which is usually held at the premises of Stanford University but previous years I was able to attend. I am so drawn by their culture and I felt like I belong to a family here of Native American Indians - The Navajo. When I went to New Mexico, I was able to immerse myself, though for just less than a week days, to the culture of the Navajo. They are very, very deep people. I think all Native Americans are. Peace loving and very hardworking people. And very proud of their heritage.

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grazie7y · « **Reply #15 on:** August 11, 2009, 12:31:32 PM »

Bruce mao ni pinaka sayun sabton nga link. Para nako lang sad. Mao ni Tribe ni banana nako, daghan kaayo klase nga tribes, naay Sioux, Cherokee, Navajo, Winnebago etc, etc, pero ug buot kwentahon usa ra baja tanan mga natives. ug sumpayun gud na tanan paryente ra nato ang mga Indians...

http://www.geo.msu.edu/geogmich/ojibwe.html

http://www.mpm.edu/wirp/ICW-51.html

ug interesado kaayo ka, tagaan pa tika ug lain nga link. Ug maka rent ka ug Video nga 500 Nations that would tell everything.

Basta magpakita ka sa imong pics ipa ila ila tika ug natives diri. O deal?

hala naa pa nako ang 500 nations ha!

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ms da binsi · « **Reply #16 on:** August 11, 2009, 12:41:07 PM »

hala naa pa nako ang 500 nations ha!

sigi lang gud. take your time.

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TOPAC · « **Reply #17 on:** August 11, 2009, 12:43:06 PM »

This year I wasn't able to attend the powwow event here which is usually held at the premises of Stanford University but previous years I was able to attend. I am so drawn by their culture and I felt like I belong to a family here of Native American Indians - The Navajo. When I went to New Mexico, I was able to immerse myself, though for just less than a week days, to the culture of the Navajo. They are very, very deep people. I think all Native Americans are. Peace loving and very hardworking people. And very proud of their heritage.

di ba naay movie nga the navajo code? i think i saw that movie.

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ms da binsi · « **Reply #18 on:** August 11, 2009, 12:47:31 PM »

di ba naay movie nga the navajo code? i think i saw that movie.

War movie man to Cals. Pero tinuod baja to nga nagamit nila ang code sa panahon sa guira.

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ZecurB · « **Reply #19 on:** August 11, 2009, 12:52:49 PM »

luoyas manok gud ini.

Dili lang manok BAI CALLE! Eagles, hawks, falcons, turkeys, peacocks pa gani tingali. Way segurog apil pang mga parrots..hehehehe

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grazie7y · « **Reply #20 on:** August 11, 2009, 12:58:28 PM »

sigi lang gud. take your time.

di ba naay movie nga the navajo code? i think i saw that movie.

yes, it was in a movie but it was from a true story. sa kalisud sa navajo language, mao to gigamit to communicate during the word war 2. di man gud to madali-dali ug decipher sa mga kalaban ang ilang sinultian.

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ms da binsi · « **Reply #21 on:** August 11, 2009, 01:01:45 PM »

Dili lang manok BAI CALLE! Eagles, hawks, falcons, turkeys, peacocks pa gani tingali. Way segurog apil pang mga parrots..hehehehe

jamo parrot diri! pero ang mga aztecs tingali Bruce kau tua man na daghan sa south...

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ms da binsi · « **Reply #22 on:** August 11, 2009, 01:04:19 PM »

yes, it was in a movie but it was from a true story. sa kalisud sa navajo language, mao to gigamit to communicate during the word war 2. di man gud to madali-dali ug decipher sa mga kalaban ang ilang sinultian.

mao jud nga makakita ko ni Uncle Rimun nga magsuot sa ija turquoise ma feel nako ang ija pride sa ija heritage.

naay usa ka anak si Mike Tiya ang kinamanghuran, nga native jud kaajo ug kinaija.

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ZecurB · « **Reply #23 on:** August 11, 2009, 01:08:21 PM »

MBD. I am particularly interested gyud anang mga Sioux, Apaches, Cherokees, Navajos, Mohicans (or is it rather Mahicans) and also of their relaties in the Central and Southern Americas, the Olmecs, Aztecs...

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janjan · « **Reply #24 on:** August 11, 2009, 01:10:40 PM »

This year I wasn't able to attend the powwow event here which is usually held at the premises of Stanford University but previous years I was able to attend. I am so drawn by their culture and I felt like I belong to a family here of Native American Indians - The Navajo. When I went to New Mexico, I was able to immerse myself, though for just less than a week days, to the culture of the Navajo. They are very, very deep people. I think all Native Americans are. Peace loving and very hardworking people. And very proud of their heritage.

wa pa gud ko kita ana powwow festival kadto nag laag me kadto place amo ge adto naa powwow festival pero wa me nihuwat kay naka sched,naman me mouli

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grazie7y · « **Reply #25 on:** August 11, 2009, 01:13:21 PM »

mao jud nga makakita ko ni Uncle Rimun nga magsuot sa ija turquoise ma feel nako ang ija pride sa ija heritage.

naay usa ka anak si Mike Tiya ang kinamanghuran, nga native jud kaajo ug kinaija.

Uncle Ray's family are really authentic natives. One time during Alyssa's graduation party, one of the uncles gave a blessing and meanings to each and every gifts given to her. not only that, hypnotic pa jud kaayo ang tingog as in mura ka'g madala sa kabukiran na iyang gisugilon! hahaha

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grazie7y · « **Reply #26 on:** August 11, 2009, 01:14:25 PM »

wa pa gud ko kita ana powwow festival kadto nag laag me kadto place amo ge adto naa powwow festival pero wa me nihuwat kay naka sched,naman me mouli

naa dire jan mid of may sa stanford university - that's near san francisco. naa pod didto kaon - fry bread, a very native indian delicacy!

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janjan · « **Reply #27 on:** August 11, 2009, 01:22:01 PM »

naa dire jan mid of may sa stanford university - that's near san francisco. naa pod didto kaon - fry bread, a very native indian delicacy!

gusto gud ko motan-aw ana powwow festival grazie next yearr naman pud pohon

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ZecurB · « **Reply #28 on:** August 11, 2009, 01:29:38 PM »

Bogay ka MDB ha, murag blackmail man nang kinahanglan pang mopasa pakos akong picutre..hehehehe

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grazie7y · « **Reply #29 on:** August 11, 2009, 01:30:49 PM »

gusto gud ko motan-aw ana powwow festival grazie next yearr naman pud pohon

mag uban ta jan. naa koy pictures i post sa akong pag laag sa powwow pero ako sa tong pangitaon.

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ZecurB · « **Reply #30 on:** August 11, 2009, 01:33:21 PM »

Hmmmmmm... I have an uncle that's married to someone who has quite a high position (even if she is just as old as I am) in Stanford.. but I'm not gonna tell who..hehehehe

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ZecurB · « **Reply #31 on:** August 11, 2009, 01:44:32 PM »

MDB, how much does a tomahawk fetch these days? The real thing as well as the one that can be bought as souvenirs? And can I still use the souvenir tomahawk for scalping?

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janjan · « **Reply #32 on:** August 11, 2009, 01:48:12 PM »

mag uban ta jan. naa koy pictures i post sa akong pag laag sa powwow pero ako sa tong pangitaon.

oh ba ... e post grazie kay if makit-an nimo

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ZecurB · « **Reply #33 on:** August 11, 2009, 01:52:50 PM »

Sorry kon ga ratatat ning akoang post ha kay it just signifies my interest in native American Indians. Kay og Buot huna-huna man gud kani sila mao gyud ang tunay nga Americans. If not for the Europeans the red skins wouldn't have their lost their birth rights as the true blue Americans... Mura gud pud sa atoa sa Pinas nga og wala palang pud mangabot og ma subdue ang mga Aetas, sila pud unta ang mga true blue Pinoy... di bah.. anybody care to stir the hornet's nest?

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grazie7y · « **Reply #34 on:** August 11, 2009, 01:58:37 PM »

Sorry kon ga ratatat ning akoang post ha kay it just signifies my interest in native American Indians. Kay og Buot huna-huna man gud kani sila mao gyud ang tunay nga Americans. If not for the Europeans the red skins wouldn't have their lost their birth rights as the true blue Americans... Mura gud pud sa atoa sa Pinas nga og wala palang pud mangabot og ma subdue ang mga Aetas, sila pud unta ang mga true blue Pinoy... di bah.. anybody care to stir the hornet's nest?

Tinuod jud, Zecurb. Sila jud ang mga original Americans but were displaced. Karon, as "settlement" they have special benefits and they are given their own reservations/nations with an independent government body. Kumbaga before they were robbed of their own land.

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Raquelproud boholana · « **Reply #35 on:** August 11, 2009, 07:15:53 PM »

Luoy baya ni sila ug basahon nimo ilang history.Gipasagdan ra ni sila sa Goberno diri sa una.Naay trail namo diri nga gitawag ug Trail of tears.Ang mga Indian gipalakaw lang paingon sa ilang new settlement layo kaayo,wa nay kaon halos daghan intawon nangamatay mao ni gitawag ug Trail of tears.Kanang Florida sa una mostly swamp na unsay gibuhat sa goberno gibalhin ang mga Indian didto mao daghan namatay sa disease kay wa raba intawon ni sila maanad ug ingon ato nga environment,daghan lamok so pagkahuman nadiskobre man sa goberno nga naay tourism potential ang Florida gipalakaw as in baklay napud ang mga Indian asa gibutang sa Oklahoma nga perti na ka dry didto. I'm glad naa pay nabilin ani nila kay kung hisgotan ug abuse grabeh jud ni sila gi abuse.

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Macky Ferniz · « **Reply #36 on:** August 11, 2009, 07:50:24 PM »

Bella,

Naa imo link sa language ug writing system sa mga Red Indians? Akong sulayan ug comparar sa Asian writings kung dunay similarity.

Kining mga Red Indians gikan ni sila sa Asia unya mi tabok ni sila sa glaciers nga nag connect sa Alaska ug Canada mga 15-20,000 years ago unya mi settle sa North America. Tungod sa dugay nilang exposure sa cold weather, ang color sa ilang panit pula-pula, mao nga gitawag sila ug Red Indians ni Christopher Columbus. Nasaag man to si Christopher Columbus unya pag abot niya sa America, abi niya ug sa India.

Ang ilang nawong murag mga Filipino, Nepal ug Chinese. Ang ilang genetics close kaayo sa mga Asians.

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bolingitboy · « **Reply #37 on:** August 14, 2009, 12:04:04 PM »

Quote from Macky Ferniz: "Kining mga Red Indians gikan ni sila sa Asia unya mi tabok ni sila sa glaciers nga nag connect sa Alaska ug Canada mga 15-20,000 years ago unya mi settle sa North America. Tungod sa dugay nilang exposure sa cold weather, ang color sa ilang panit pula-pula, mao nga gitawag sila ug Red Indians ni Christopher Columbus. Nasaag man to si Christopher Columbus unya pag abot niya sa America, abi niya ug sa India."

Ang ilang nawong murag mga Filipino, Nepal ug Chinese. Ang ilang genetics close kaayo sa mga Asians."

i was just reading an art magazine yesterday that focused on native american art and an article mentioned the same thing: that native americans originated froma asia when alaska and russia were connected by land bridges thousands of years ago. these asians did not only settle in north america (present day canada and USA) but also spread across mexico, central and south america. this probably explains why indians (natives in USA/Canada, mexico, and south america) and asians (including filipinos) have similar physical features.

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bolingitboy · « **Reply #38 on:** August 14, 2009, 12:16:57 PM »

"Luoy baya ni sila ug basahon nimo ilang history.Gipasagdan ra ni sila sa Goberno diri sa una.Naay trail namo diri nga gitawag ug Trail of tears.Ang mga Indian gipalakaw lang paingon sa ilang new settlement layo kaayo,wa nay kaon halos daghan intawon nangamatay mao ni gitawag ug Trail of tears.Kanang Florida sa una mostly swamp na unsay gibuhat sa goberno gibalhin ang mga Indian didto mao daghan namatay sa disease kay wa raba intawon ni sila maanad ug ingon ato nga environment,daghan lamok so pagkahuman nadiskobre man sa goberno nga naay tourism potential ang Florida gipalakaw as in baklay napud ang mga Indian asa gibutang sa Oklahoma nga perti na ka dry didto. I'm glad naa pay nabilin ani nila kay kung hisgotan ug abuse grabeh jud ni sila gi abuse."

this are all true. it shows how european immigrants grabbed the indian's land. it is horrible to read about accounts on how americans fooled the indians into submission through treaties that they did not honor and conducted a pogrom (systematic decimation of a people) among the ranks of the various indian tribes by committing and starving them in military garrisons and speading disease among them so that they will die faster.

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bolingitboy · « **Reply #39 on:** August 14, 2009, 12:28:20 PM »

mdb: thanks for the post and pics... i have always been interested with tribal culture and arts, and it includes native american peoples. i'll be keeping these pics in my collection of native american stuff. if there's anybody here who would like to donate something to this small "collection", i could use some silver and torquoise jewelry, moccasins, war shield, bow and arrow and quiver, jaw-bone war club, glass beads. oh, the list goes on :-)

as a rejoinder to an earlier statement that native americans originally came from asia which explains the similar features between indians and asians is an observation that i would like to make: the first photo in this thread of an elderly indian woman bears a striking resemblance with filipino actress chichay.

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bolingitboy · « **Reply #40 on:** August 14, 2009, 12:36:35 PM »

Quote from grazie: "hala naa pa nako ang 500 nations ha!"

can you tell me more about this 500 nations video and how i can access it?

i am an interested student of tribal culture and arts and learning more about native americans will certainly add to the information that i have of american tribes which i have gained from the films that i have watched and the books that i have read. i found the book "bury my heart at wounded knee" to be a very interesting read.

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bolingitboy · « **Reply #41 on:** August 14, 2009, 12:46:19 PM »

Quote from grazie: "This year I wasn't able to attend the powwow event here which is usually held at the premises of Stanford University but previous years I was able to attend. I am so drawn by their culture and I felt like I belong to a family here of Native American Indians - The Navajo. When I went to New Mexico, I was able to immerse myself, though for just less than a week days, to the culture of the Navajo. They are very, very deep people. I think all Native Americans are. Peace loving and very hardworking people. And very proud of their heritage."

just a couple trivias about the navajo that i'd like to share: (1) the navajos, being one of the pueblo indian tribes that live in the deserts of the american southwest are dependent on agriculture for subsistence whose sacred crops include corn, beans and squash. as an agriculture-dependent community that is located in an arid region, most of their religious ceremonies revolve around asking the gods for rain and good harvest. as such, they are the peoples that mostly perform the "rain dance"; (2) one of the more popular american indian chiefs - Geronimo - was a navajo; (3) as asians, from whom the native american indian descended, we are their relatives.

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Macky Ferniz · « **Reply #42 on:** August 15, 2009, 06:25:17 AM »

Kanang Geronimo gi gamit na sa world War II nga code para sa airborne invasion in honor of the famous Navajo Indian Chief.. Mao nga nahimong famous sa mga bata nga mo singgit ug "Geronimo!" unya dayon mo lukso. Hangtod karon gi popularize gihapon na sa Holliwood ang Geronimo.

Nakabasa pod ko nga ang mga Native indian sa Mexico ug Amazon naka develop ilang dugo ug imunity sa malaria.

Kadtong gi feature sa Journey of Man, ang mga native Chileans ang pinaka daghan ug imunity sa mga sakit. Tungod kay matod sa genetic studies, ang tao nag sugod ug journey sa Central Africa, unya mi migrate sa Middle East, then to Central Asia. Unya gitawag ang Central Asia nga Cradle of Man kay didto mi split ang atong genetic markers (diversity). Kung mo adto ka sa Croatia, makita nimo didto ang nagka lain-lain nga clase sa faces or sea of faces. Naay murag asians, europeans, blacks...etc. Unya gikan dito mi split ang journey, ang mi adto sa north, nahimong mga Europeans, ang sa south nahimong mga Indians, ang South East ug East, nahimong mga Chinese. Pero ang mga tough breed nga tao mi continue ug journey sa north east nga harsh ug cold region, ug didto sila mi abot sa Canada ug mi ambog sila sa Central America ug hangtod sa Chile nga maoy tip sa American contenent. Mao nga na agian nila ang tanan nga mga harsh weather condition ug mga klase sa sakit.

Sa laing bahin, ang mga mibiyahi sa South mi end sa Sri Lanka, pero wala sila mo hunong sa ilang quest. Mao nga mi migrate sila sa ocean padulong sa southeast Asia. Kini nga mga tribe gitawag ug mga Srivijayans. Hangtod mi abot sila ug lawig sa Hawaii ug Polynesians. Eventually, mi venture sila sa farthest point sa Pacific nga mao ang Easter Island ug mi settle ni sial didto. Kini nga tribe sa Srivijayan gi tawag ug mga Rapanoi. Sila ang unang mi settle sa Easter Island which also belongs to Chille Territory.

Kining akong istorya, wala ni mahitabo sa hundreds of years, kondi 25,000 years since man walk from its origin in Central Africa.

So na split sa Central Asia unya ang mibiyahe sa south ug sa north east nag abot didto sa Chille. Ang usa mi biyaye sa snow, ug ang usa ka grupo mibiyahe sa dagat.

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Raquelproud boholana · « **Reply #43 on:** August 15, 2009, 11:44:45 AM »

Wow thanks Macky karon pa ko kafeel nga nindot man diay ang history hehhehe.Bitaw ang Easter island very interesting sad ang history ana. Nakalearn ko about Indian tungod sa akong bana.Daghan ni siya ug books sa una about Native Indian so every now ang then ganahan ni siya mo share nako about indian kay interested sad ko ani nila. Ang state of Illinois Indian words man ni. Nakakobkob gani akong bana sa una diri sa among farm ug arrowhead sa Indian.Murag gi donate man siguro to nila sa museum. Duol duol sa amoa naay Indian Burial ang Cahokia Mound.

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bolingitboy · « **Reply #44 on:** August 17, 2009, 12:36:57 PM »

Macks: Nice kaayo and information nga imo gi share that shows a macroscopic perspective of the migratory path that early man took. i have read bits and pieces of history in various parts of the world and the info you shared provided the connection between the continents and among the various peoples that walk the earth as we know today. it is pretty interesting to learn the origins of the srivijayans (of which boholanos are supposed to have originated from) and the path they took across the pacific that eventually ended in easter islands. speaking of easter islands, i own a copy of an old book about the place which was written by thor heyerdahl, a norwegian adventurer who explored the island around the 50s. it is a documentary account that stirs the interest and enthusiasm of any history, culture and anthropology enthusiast.

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grazie7y · « **Reply #45 on:** August 18, 2009, 04:45:53 AM »

Quote from grazie: "This year I wasn't able to attend the powwow event here which is usually held at the premises of Stanford University but previous years I was able to attend. I am so drawn by their culture and I felt like I belong to a family here of Native American Indians - The Navajo. When I went to New Mexico, I was able to immerse myself, though for just less than a week days, to the culture of the Navajo. They are very, very deep people. I think all Native Americans are. Peace loving and very hardworking people. And very proud of their heritage."

just a couple trivias about the navajo that i'd like to share: (1) the navajos, being one of the pueblo indian tribes that live in the deserts of the american southwest are dependent on agriculture for subsistence whose sacred crops include corn, beans and squash. as an agriculture-dependent community that is located in an arid region, most of their religious ceremonies revolve around asking the gods for rain and good harvest. as such, they are the peoples that mostly perform the "rain dance"; (2) one of the more popular american indian chiefs - Geronimo - was a navajo; (3) as asians, from whom the native american indian descended, we are their relatives.

bolingitboy, bilib jud ko ninyo ni macky coz you know a lot about history.

dili iglayo atong dagway sa mga navajo especially sa among pamilya na lapad mi'g nawong with high cheek bones. when my navajo uncle visited philippines, di jud sya ilhan na american kanunay lang sya bisayaan kay pareho ra man pod ug facial feature nato and color. authentic jud ni akong uncle baya.

Quote from grazie: "hala naa pa nako ang 500 nations ha!"

can you tell me more about this 500 nations video and how i can access it?

i am an interested student of tribal culture and arts and learning more about native americans will certainly add to the information that i have of american tribes which i have gained from the films that i have watched and the books that i have read. i found the book "bury my heart at wounded knee" to be a very interesting read.

i will look for 500 nations and i will let you know. or, maybe i can just copy what i have here pero basin ma priso ta kay di man na allowed. heheeh mangita lang ko'g laing copy and i will give it to you. i will keep you posted, sir.

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bolingitboy · « **Reply #46 on:** August 19, 2009, 10:23:59 AM »

"i will look for 500 nations and i will let you know. or, maybe i can just copy what i have here pero basin ma priso ta kay di man na allowed. heheeh mangita lang ko'g laing copy and i will give it to you. i will keep you posted, sir."

grazie, mdb has gotten in touch and offered to somehow find a way to secure a copy of 500 nations for me. most likely, she will be getting in touch with you sometime on this regard.

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grazie7y · « **Reply #47 on:** August 19, 2009, 10:54:15 AM »

"i will look for 500 nations and i will let you know. or, maybe i can just copy what i have here pero basin ma priso ta kay di man na allowed. heheeh mangita lang ko'g laing copy and i will give it to you. i will keep you posted, sir."

grazie, mdb has gotten in touch and offered to somehow find a way to secure a copy of 500 nations for me. most likely, she will be getting in touch with you sometime on this regard.

oh ok, thanks! mag storya lang mi about this.

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ms da binsi · « **Reply #48 on:** August 19, 2009, 01:42:26 PM »

Tiya i will ask a friend to copy it for Bolingiton kay ug paliton na sha mahal man. i dont know ug naa ba sa ebay kay mopalit ko para akong ipahuwam sa tanang taga TB sa pinas nga mga interesado makabawo.

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buwadsanga · « **Reply #49 on:** August 19, 2009, 01:56:57 PM »

hinumdum man ko ani sa mga fave movies ko sa bata pako. mao man tingale niy contra nila ni django.....

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ms da binsi · « **Reply #50 on:** August 19, 2009, 01:59:09 PM »

hahahhaha! mao jud Wad! pero ang mga dautan to nga mga indian. naa man sad mga dautan..

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buwadsanga · « **Reply #51 on:** August 19, 2009, 03:57:42 PM »

MDB, kamusta sila these days. kadungog ko sauna nga medyo mga tapulan daw sila salig lang kono sa welfare. hup di ni tinuod.....

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janjan · « **Reply #52 on:** August 19, 2009, 04:11:42 PM »

MDB, kamusta sila these days. kadungog ko sauna nga medyo mga tapulan daw sila salig lang kono sa welfare. hup di ni tinuod.....

oh kasagaran bitaw nila ga salig lang welfare

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ms da binsi · « **Reply #53 on:** August 20, 2009, 01:40:00 AM »

MDB, kamusta sila these days. kadungog ko sauna nga medyo mga tapulan daw sila salig lang kono sa welfare. hup di ni tinuod.....

dili man sila tapulan Wad, ang ubang natives nga nag puyo sa desyerto wa jud mabuhat! kay way tubig etc... lisud jud sad ilang panginabuhi didto. i think naa pay gi supportahan sa gobyerno kadtong tua sa bukid sa New Mexico or bukid sa Arizona, Dakota (N & S) nga di mabutangan ug CASINO kay wa nay mo adto. Among Tribu mo donate man gani sa uban nga natives nga mga indigents sad like mga LAKOTAS lisud ilang panginabuhi sa uban. Pero naa sad mga natives nga kugihan kaajo. preha ra sad na sa uban nga TRIBU Wad. Ato bitaw nga tribu naa man sad tapowan! hahahhah

bitaw oi! di preha tanan.

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buwadsanga · « **Reply #54 on:** August 20, 2009, 09:15:35 AM »

unsa kahay imong ngalan mam mdb sa ilang tribu? - rushing wind o wild flower? hehehe!

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ms da binsi · « **Reply #55 on:** August 20, 2009, 10:54:40 AM »

hhmm let me think...

ahhh mas nindot ang "rushing wind" Wad! hahahha!

huy kana daw ilang ngalan inig panganak daw sa inahan, mogawas daw ang primary caregiver like banana or Mother, dayun inig gawas daw ang unang makita sa caregiver mao to ipangalan sa anak. Ana daw nila kuhaa ilang mga ngalan.

I only learned it very recently, kay ang mga apo ni banana naa man mga native names dayun ask ko giunsa man na pang ngalan?

ana daw... hahahha! Ikaw Wad, unsa may imong Native name karon aber???

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buwadsanga · « **Reply #56 on:** August 20, 2009, 01:05:45 PM »

i propose - "fyling fish" ug sa ato pa bangsi. di siguro pwede ang flying fish kay bukid maning ila di ba? kuan nalang "wind rider" o "big strong stag"

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bolingitboy · « **Reply #57 on:** August 25, 2009, 11:02:31 AM »

Quote from mdb: "Among Tribu mo donate man gani sa uban nga natives nga mga indigents sad like mga LAKOTAS lisud ilang panginabuhi sa uban."

kalouy sa mga lakotas, they have been reduced to becoming indigents in their own country. the lakotas were a once brave, mighty and proud tribe.

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Mari · « **Reply #58 on:** August 25, 2009, 11:04:13 AM »

gusto ko naay indian name...

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grazie7y · « **Reply #59 on:** August 25, 2009, 11:04:48 AM »

Quote from mdb: "Among Tribu mo donate man gani sa uban nga natives nga mga indigents sad like mga LAKOTAS lisud ilang panginabuhi sa uban."

kalouy sa mga lakotas, they have been reduced to becoming indigents in their own country. the lakotas were a once brave, mighty and proud tribe.

Navajo are also kinda poor tribe. daghan pa man gud pod na sila.

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Mari · « **Reply #60 on:** August 25, 2009, 11:07:05 AM »

Navajo are also kinda poor tribe. daghan pa man gud pod na sila.

but they have really fine crafts

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grazie7y · « **Reply #61 on:** August 25, 2009, 11:08:19 AM »

but they have really fine crafts

oh yes, dear! naa pa imong navajo sandpainting dire. basin mapadala ni nko before christmas kon makapadala ko'g box sa amo.

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Mari · « **Reply #62 on:** August 25, 2009, 11:10:22 AM »

murag in my past life indian man tingali ko graz kay i love their culture a lot...hehe

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bolingitboy · « **Reply #63 on:** August 25, 2009, 11:12:41 AM »

Quote from janjan: "oh kasagaran bitaw nila ga salig lang welfare"

most native americans who have been confined to indian reservations rely on government welfare services because there are no opportunities present in the area. most of the tracts of land that have been declared by the U.S. government as indian reservation where they are supposedly autonomous and can practice self-governance are located in unproductive wasteland and are found in the middle of nowhere. so, in actuality the seeming laziness of indians can be attributed to the lack of opportunity and activity which, in hindsight, may have been deliberately done by americans (european settlers) to keep the indians disillusioned and disunited so that the indian threat can be permanently put at bay.

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bolingitboy · « **Reply #64 on:** August 25, 2009, 11:18:02 AM »

Quote from grazie: "Navajo are also kinda poor tribe. daghan pa man gud pod na sila."

this is understandable. the navajos live in the desert. not much to there except the usual agriculture that they have been doing for hundreds of years; growing corn, squash and beans. every now and then, there's the occasional rabbit but other than that, there's nothing much. thus, most of them countinue to remain poor.

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bolingitboy · « **Reply #65 on:** August 25, 2009, 11:23:21 AM »

Quote from mari: "murag in my past life indian man tingali ko graz kay i love their culture a lot...hehe"

i thought i was the only filipino who had this feeling of attributing the close connnection with native americans through their art, crafts, culture and history to past life incarnations.

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bolingitboy · « **Reply #66 on:** August 25, 2009, 11:24:55 AM »

"Navajo are also kinda poor tribe. daghan pa man gud pod na sila."

"but they have really fine crafts"

anybody who would like to donate a navajo blanket is quite welcome :-)

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Mari · « **Reply #67 on:** August 25, 2009, 11:26:35 AM »

duha nata bolingit boy. im very much connected with the native american indians and the egyptians. im just so fascinated by it all

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Mari · « **Reply #68 on:** August 25, 2009, 11:27:44 AM »

hapit na gani ko magsul ob diri og boots para rain dance sa indian...hehehe

and ive started wearing their blings too!

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bolingitboy · « **Reply #69 on:** August 25, 2009, 11:39:58 AM »

Quote from mari: "hapit na gani ko magsul ob diri og boots para rain dance sa indian...hehehe

and ive started wearing their blings too!"

diay ba? if i could get some buckskin clothing and moccasins, i'd wear them too... i'm wondering where you get your native american blings which is basically made up of a combination of silver and torquoise. well, it's pretty easy to find all-silver jewelry anywhere in the philippines but silver and torquoise if quite hard-to-find, if not totally impossible to find.

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grazie7y · « **Reply #70 on:** August 25, 2009, 01:23:49 PM »

"Navajo are also kinda poor tribe. daghan pa man gud pod na sila."

"but they have really fine crafts"

anybody who would like to donate a navajo blanket is quite welcome :-)

when my cousin graduated from high school, all her navajo dine' came down to celebrate with us. one of the gifts she got was a navajo blanket. when one of the navajo uncle's of my cousin (he is one of the finest navajo scientists named Fred Begay) gave the blanket, he delivered a very profound meaning of the blanket.

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