Author Topic: Should Roman Catholic Priest Allowed To GEt Married? (Please Help for debate) (Read 37914 times)

glacier_71 · « **Reply #80 on:** April 20, 2009, 10:06:44 AM »

i know. but i suggest one makes a separate topic of this issue because i don't see why these points should be dealt here

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buwadsanga · « **Reply #81 on:** April 20, 2009, 11:07:50 AM »

where naman si dong lorenzo nahirapan sagutin si fdaray. fight fdaray dili kaya ni sa dojo ni lorenzo.

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #82 on:** April 20, 2009, 11:49:28 AM »

Mr. Daray,

We must practice discernment when in discussing this topic. To simply debase the Church and utilize a citation from an Evangelical site which is antagonistic to the RCC is unfair.

Again, we must practice discernment.

All these examples of of charges that you posted, have been addressed already in the Great Reformation of the 16th century, and yet again in following papal addresses, and the 2nd Vatican Council.

This notion of Sola Scriptural is not something that the RCC holds true. As Scripture and Tradition is mandated.

Let us stick to the topic, I could also infer the RCC's notion on anathema of some heretical church groups in this day of age. But again, that is left to man's free will.

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fdaray · « **Reply #83 on:** April 20, 2009, 01:10:13 PM »

Lorenzo, sorry if I have posted something unpleasing to the Catholics.

This is still a broad issue to resolve. LEt us leave the viewers to answer
based on the teachings of the Bible. The truth will always prevail.

Let us open our minds based on Scriptural teaching, not on manmade
doctrines.

May God bless us for seeking the truth.

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #84 on:** April 20, 2009, 01:40:47 PM »

This notion of priesthood is for me, not something one should consider just for the sake of considering or testing.

This is so very beautiful, you know, the Sacrament of Priesthood. The calling of the priesthood. Ive had met many who are now seminarians in their youth, because they were called.

Young men of my age, even younger, called already. Do you all understand the beauty and unparalleled magnamity of such a calling? I attended a Collegiate Catholic Conference 2 years ago at Ganon University in Erie, Pennsylvania. For just. To entertain the calling of priesthood.

Tell you the truth, I once thought I had a calling for it. In my 2nd year of college. I cannot explain the feeling, all i know is that i was in my catholic chaplain's office pouring my eyes out because of the feeling. Its like the hairs of your back being raised. Its scary and at the same time, very eye-opening. So i attended the conference, as my pastor recommended, to make sure it was genuine or not.

When I attended, i met a good friend, who was then a 1st year in collegiate seminary. Can you imagine, a boy by the age of 18, already in the seminary? I asked him, "how do you know it was the calling? when did you receive it?"

His response was, "always have had it since i was boy."

It really is scary you know, for me, looking at it in hindsight. To be called, or think to you were called? By the Holy Spirit to a sheppard of the flock. I thank the Lord i made the right decision.

Surely, I am not worthy to have been a priest. Like all of you, am a wretched sinner.

The priesthood is truly, the ultimate sacrifice.

A man not only gives his body, but his soul to Christ. Soley to Christ.

The priesthood is incomparable. And it is a sacred position. Not meant for those who are not fully discerned to its calling.

'

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #85 on:** April 21, 2009, 04:03:55 AM »

To the original poster,

For those who are in the contra in the preservation of Priestly celibacy, why and what is your objective and your resolution? Is it for merely to debate? Or are you actually young men who are truly considering the Royal Priesthood, yet at the same time entertain the notion of marriage, and physical fatherhood?

It is debasing and unequivocally provocative to infer a course of action, when one isn't totally pledged to fulfill the oaths of that respective calling.

If it is so, that the debater merely debates for the sake of debating to see the others point of view, then one's reasons and resolution is moot and obliterated. It is unsubstantiated.

God established the CHURCH. WIthin the church we have : 1) Priest and 2) Laypeople.

The supreme role of Priesthood is to preach, to discern, to guide the flock. To follow scriptural mandates and APOSTOLIC Tradition. The layman, in his or her own indivdual style is to hold true to the teachings and apply it in faith and actions.

God does not count laymanship any less than priesthood; as both positions have different roles. One helps the other in making the right choice, to discern, and sheppard the other away from heretical notions that are under the influence of the Demonic enemy. MAY GOD REBUKE him!

Truly.

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buwadsanga · « **Reply #86 on:** April 21, 2009, 01:33:48 PM »

dong lor, buhat ug laing topic para ma resolve ang issue ninjo ni fdaray bahin sa catholics are not christians..... tiaw mo ani dong? sugot ka?

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #87 on:** April 21, 2009, 03:51:02 PM »

In the light of good debate and exchange of opinions regarding this topic, I will abstain from further dialogue concerning the Roman Catholic Church and other church's views on the RCC.

I believe that the animosity of all Christian Churches between each other is a work of the devil, who will inspire and incite negative comments on one another, the believers and followers of Christ Our Lord.

So, it is best for us to merely understand their point of view. And pray for them.
Many churches, though different in teaching as the RCC have basic truths that are in line with what the RCC has proclaimed since the rising of the Lord and following days of Pentecost.

Lets work on the common ground, rather than on the differences that divide. Let us not entertain negative notions of one another, again, such notions are demonic in nature. The devil works always to try to ambivilate the faithful.

MAY THE LORD GOD REBUKE him! I humbly pray.

Archangel Michael, Prince of the Heavenly Hosts,
Defend us, children the of the Most High, and His Church.
From the snares and futility of the devil.

Amen.

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buwadsanga · « **Reply #88 on:** April 28, 2009, 01:30:28 PM »

AMEN.......

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Bad Godesberg · « **Reply #89 on:** April 28, 2009, 08:54:17 PM »

The Truth about Catholic Priest !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnw5vOTM1pE&feature=related

+JLY

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fdaray · « **Reply #90 on:** April 29, 2009, 09:06:12 AM »

Bad Godesberg,.... please open on page 3 to 7 on this topic. You can read more views and opinions.

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TOPAC · « **Reply #91 on:** April 29, 2009, 12:21:49 PM »

there are plenty of us here who claim we are christians and boast of thier knowledge on christianity. but its a sad story to say, they are only christians on their belief but not on their deeds!

God forbid to all hypocrites! $:-\$

bull's eye na sad ka bay.

as if attacking the Catholic faith is a Christian deed.

Gimbuhaton ba sa usa ka kristiyano ang pagtamay ug pagbiay biay sa iyang igsoun nga kristiyano?

Just asking!

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #92 on:** April 29, 2009, 12:24:21 PM »

The Truth about Catholic Priest !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnw5vOTM1pE&feature=related

+JLY

Beautiful message.

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glacier_71 · « **Reply #93 on:** April 29, 2009, 08:14:30 PM »

huwat lang ta nga ma-Santo Papa na tong akong Lolo kay uyon to siya maminyo ang pari. hehe.

daghang mga fora nga nagbutang aning topika. unsa gyud kaha ang tumong aning maong pangutana? gawas sa tumong pagmugna og pagkigkukabildo, natumong na man ang uban hinoon sa pagbutangbutang ug pagtamay sa ubang mga tawo.

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gwargz · « **Reply #94 on:** September 25, 2009, 11:02:38 PM »

ok lang mamenyo ang pari basta sa babae lang mamenyo!

Toeeenk !!!

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gwargz · « **Reply #95 on:** September 25, 2009, 11:08:08 PM »

Married Priest?

Lisora.
Ma-imagine nako nga busy na si Padre ug homily
tapos naay 4 anyos, gadagan, gahilak paingon sa altar,
sigeg singgit, "Daddy, daddy, giaway ko sa sakristan.

Unsa may buhaton sa pari?
Break muna lugar? Kugoson ang bata ug ihatod sa kumbento,
then balik na pod siya para ipadayon ang misa?

Naunsa na ni. Hehehehe.

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glacier_71 · « **Reply #96 on:** September 25, 2009, 11:13:10 PM »

Married Priest?

Lisora.
Ma-imagine nako nga busy na si Padre ug homily
tapos naay 4 anyos, gadagan, gahilak paingon sa altar,
sigeg singgit, "Daddy, daddy, giaway ko sa sakristan.

Unsa may buhaton sa pari?
Break muna lugar? Kugoson ang bata ug ihatod sa kumbento,
then balik na pod siya para ipadayon ang misa?

Naunsa na ni. Hehehehe.

grwagz, ikaw man juy nakapuyo og kombento ug nakauban-uban og pari; nasayod pod ko nga naa pod kay kasayoran sa tinood nga kahimtang sa KINABUHI ni pader, unsa may imong ikatubag aning isyuha: uyon ka nga magminyo sila o dili? (kanang imong tinood nga pamalandong aning dapita.)

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gwargz · « **Reply #97 on:** September 25, 2009, 11:46:29 PM »

Married Priest?

Dili pwede Glac.

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glacier_71 · « **Reply #98 on:** September 25, 2009, 11:49:49 PM »

Married Priest?

Dili pwede Glac.

pwede motampo kas ubang nimong maalamong pagpasabot aning bahina, gwargz? kung nganong dili pwede?

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #99 on:** September 26, 2009, 12:03:43 AM »

My response:

Nope. If you want to get married, be a deacon or a eucharistic minister

There are 2 holy lives:

1. Life of a Priest of Christ or Brother of Christ or Sister of Christ
1a. Life of a Deacon (religious orders that are allowed to marry)

2. Life of a Layman and Laywomen. Can marry, which the sacrament of marriage between layman and laywoman is the quintessential example of Holy Life, a manifest of God's Love, and the fruit of their Love---> Children.

Sacrament of Priestly Orders are for those who are Called and ANSWER the Call by THE MOST HIGH.

It is not for everyone.

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gwargz · « **Reply #100 on:** September 26, 2009, 12:10:33 AM »

Catholic priests, dili pwede kay naay balaod sa simbahan bahin niini.
Gimando pod ni ni Jesus Christ mismo pinaagi ni Matthew ug sa sulat
ni Pablo ngadto sa taga Corintho.
Jesus commends celibacy (Matthew 19:12), (1 Corinthians 7:32- 33).

Glac, ayaw na ko pangutan-a ug dugang kay basin mahawod ko parehas ni Lorenzo.
Hehehehe. Cheers, Bro.

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #101 on:** September 26, 2009, 12:16:16 AM »

You got it brother man! he he he he !

Jesus commanded all HIS apostles to follow him.
Drop everthing and follow him.

Was he being symbolic? Oh heck no, brothers!
CHRIST JESUS WHO IS THE GREAT I AM--THE ALPHA AND OMEGA
is LITERAL!

Just as he wiped out sodom and gamorrah from the face of the earth for their sexual perversity.
Just as HE literally smothered Pharaohs Charriots in the mouth of the Sea when they chased HIS PEOPLE ISRAEL.

Jesus says the road to SALVATION is long and narrow, and not many who seek it will find it.
Because HE demands total supplication, folks!

Our God is not a God of empty promises and jokes jokes.
He is a GOD of seriousness.

Christ was not joking when he laid his life on the cross , folks.
For while we were yet sinners, He died for us.

---

Bro gwargz, great scriptural reference.

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glacier_71 · « **Reply #102 on:** September 26, 2009, 12:17:07 AM »

Catholic priests, dili pwede kay naay balaod sa simbahan bahin niini.
Gimando pod ni ni Jesus Christ mismo pinaagi ni Matthew ug sa sulat
ni Pablo ngadto sa taga Corintho.
Jesus commends celibacy (Matthew 19:12), (1 Corinthians 7:32- 33).

Glac, ayaw na ko pangutan-a ug dugang kay basin mahawod ko parehas ni Lorenzo.
Hehehehe. Cheers, Bro.

hahahaha.

ayaw kahadlok nga mahawod ka, bay gwargz. kabalo man ko nga hawod kas kombento daan. kaw guy gisugo moadtos Loon papangutana sa pari. moot pod tong imong experience ba. hangos jud tawn. bibo na ba ang Panggangan karon?

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #103 on:** September 26, 2009, 12:28:59 AM »

I used to contemplate and entertain thoughts of priestly ministry in my last year of college, actually.
But the only thing that prevented me from fully acting on it was the notion of total sacrifice.

I want to have children in the future, to be a physical father, by His Will.

And this was a problem that I had, after attending many various Catholic Conferences for Male Catholic Students at the Diocese of Erie, Pennsylvania and the Diocese of Pittsburgh, I talked it over with my collegiate chaplain.

His words of advice to me was, "Al, discern, you must discern the calling, if it is legitimate and genuine."
"Are you willing to sacrifice and give up everything to carry the Cross of Priestly Ministry? Can you answer the call of the Royal Priesthood?"

I could not.

I just could not do it. I was called, but I could not answer fully.

And it is okay, for me, i realize that God calls me to a different purpose in life. To live a life of a layman, and to heal the bodies of sick fellows.

----

Many are called to PRIESTHOOD, but very few can answer its calling.
Priesthood is TOTAL SACRIFICE.

It is , in my opinion, one of the greatest Sacraments...

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glacier_71 · « **Reply #104 on:** September 26, 2009, 12:40:33 AM »

Catholic priests, dili pwede kay naay balaod sa simbahan bahin niini.
Gimando pod ni ni Jesus Christ mismo pinaagi ni Matthew ug sa sulat
ni Pablo ngadto sa taga Corintho.
Jesus commends celibacy (Matthew 19:12), (1 Corinthians 7:32- 33).

Glac, ayaw na ko pangutan-a ug dugang kay basin mahawod ko parehas ni Lorenzo.
Hehehehe. Cheers, Bro.

kabalo man ta anang balaora, gwargz. mura lagi kag CFD sa una. hehehe

pero, ang ako nga pangutana ba. basi sa imong kasinatian uban sa pari/mga pari, sa imong nakita, ug nabati, ang pagminyo ba babag sa pangatungdanan sa usa ka pari?

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gwargz · « **Reply #105 on:** September 26, 2009, 12:41:06 AM »

I used to contemplate and entertain thoughts of priestly ministry in my last year of college, actually.
But the only thing that prevented me from fully acting on it was the notion of total sacrifice.

I want to have children in the future, to be a physical father, by His Will.

And this was a problem that I had, after attending many various Catholic Conferences for Male Catholic Students at the Diocese of Erie, Pennsylvania and the Diocese of Pittsburgh, I talked it over with my collegiate chaplain.

His words of advice to me was, "Al, discern, you must discern the calling, if it is legitimate and genuine."
"Are you willing to sacrifice and give up everything to carry the Cross of Priestly Ministry? Can you answer the call of the Royal Priesthood?"

I could not.

I just could not do it. I was called, but I could not answer fully.

And it is okay, for me, i realize that God calls me to a different purpose in life. To live a life of a layman, and to heal the bodies of sick fellows.

----

Many are called to PRIESTHOOD, but very few can answer its calling.
Priesthood is TOTAL SACRIFICE.

It is , in my opinion, one of the greatest Sacraments...

Bro Lorenz, God has a purpose ngano wala ka mapari. Gihimo ka niyang dual purpose. A medical practicioner and a Global Evangelizer dinhi sa TB. Layo ra kaayo ang pari nimo. Kay ang pari lungsod ray hawiran, ang uban isla ra sa Pangangan or Sandingan. Imoha kay TB man jud. Di ba, Glac? Hahahaha. Nakita nako nag-smile mo duha Lorenzo ug Glac. Aww, tulo diay ta nag-smile.

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #106 on:** September 26, 2009, 12:47:30 AM »

I ask and pray for greater patience, really, bro.

One of the things that my spiritual director, Fr. Mark Hoffman used to tell me in our Catholic Conference Meetings was that I have a fierce oratory ability, he likened me to a crusader-monks in the olden days.

But then again, I and many of my own fellows that could not answer the call have to deal with our own faults and shortcomings that prevented us from answer the call, completely.

It is really hard sometimes, tho, bro. Because these thoughts to do come and go. Even when I am at the hospital at times, these thoughts come again.

I will not deny, it is a gradual process. I know HE is still calling me to answer the call, but I just cannot answer His call. It is too much, for me, to do. I wish I was stronger..weak. In the end, i am weak.

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glacier_71 · « **Reply #107 on:** September 26, 2009, 01:56:52 AM »

Bro Lorenz, God has a purpose ngano wala ka mapari. Gihimo ka niyang dual purpose. A medical practicioner and a Global Evangelizer dinhi sa TB. Layo ra kaayo ang pari nimo. Kay ang pari lungsod ray hawiran, ang uban isla ra sa Pangangan or Sandingan. Imoha kay TB man jud. Di ba, Glac? Hahahaha. Nakita nako nag-smile mo duha Lorenzo ug Glac. Aww, tulo diay ta nag-smile.

hehehe.

tinood sad na, bay gwargz. pero ang pagpangalagad sa pari wa man na mag depende sa gidaghanon sa mamati; gawas pa Diyos man iyang gialagaran, ug Iyang katawhan; dili iyang kaugalingon.

ug mao nay nakapa-pari sa pari: ang tawag-pagpangalagad. dili ang iyang estado sa kinabuhi.

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #108 on:** October 01, 2009, 04:13:58 AM »

Again, the calling to the priesthood is not for everyone.

All of us, I myself am included in this, will be tempted by sin,
and if that flaw impedes in one's ability to minister to the flock,
then it should be known to the minister to evade in ministering.

Many are called to the Royal Priesthood, but very few are able to completely answer the call.

Daghan ko'g respect sa mga holy priests, holy brothers, sisters, and mothers. And all religious life.

May the LORD's call be answered by men and women who are worthy to serve in feeding the sheep.

Pray na lang ta mga LAYMEN. Pray for ourselves and for our brothers. Because---in the end---we are part of the Communion of Saints.

Pray.

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gwargz · « **Reply #109 on:** October 01, 2009, 08:04:58 AM »

Brothers & Sisters,

Good Morning,

Priesthood is one, another is Laity (english), Layko (pilipino) o Laygo (bisaya).
The laity is the people who are very actively serving the church in many ways
but are not priests, bishops or nuns. Mga ordinaryong tawo like us. Mga
manimbahay. Be a laity. Get involved in your church wherever you are.
If you don't have church in your place, communicate your fellow boholanos
or filipinos. You group and do regular spiritual nourishment.

Better still, join the Couples For Christ in your area (wherever u are in the globe).
Couples For Christ has many Ministries which you will be sheperd and
will become a sheperd there in your area.
Para mahaom jod ang kahimtang sa usa ka tawo
nga gusto makiglambigit kanunay ni Lord, the CFC has designed and formed
the following ministries:

Couples For Christ (CFC) - For couples.
Servants Of The Lord (SOLD) - For Married Men Only/Widowers/Separated/Singles but above 40 yrs old.
Handmaids Of The Lord (HOLD) - For Married Women Only/Widows/Separated/Single Mothers.
Singles For Christ - For single professionals below 40. (Men & Women are separately grouped during prayer meetings)
Youth For Christ - For High Schools & College students & group of age who are not studying.
Kids For Christ - For kids in school or out of school. (Senior KFC aged 7 to 12) (Junior KFC aged 4 to 6)

May God bless you, igsoon.

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Mulligan · « **Reply #110 on:** October 01, 2009, 09:10:52 AM »

Unsaon man nga mali man pagka dungog kono saunang panahaon sa mga natong katoliko ang word nga "Celebrate". Ang nahipatik kay "celebate" naman noon. Nawala ang letter "r". Hehe.

Peace mga Pader diri.

Pax Christi.

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glacier_71 · « **Reply #111 on:** October 01, 2009, 09:32:43 AM »

kanang naman lang balaod ug tradisyon maoy nakapapugong nga DILI sila kaminyo...dili naman isyu ang kaminyoon ug kaepektibo nila (kung minyo) diha sa ilang ministro.

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chicogon · « **Reply #112 on:** October 02, 2009, 01:29:29 PM »

Dia man diay ning thread lami basahon, way nakahatag nakog notisya bahin ani maong nalipat bwahaha. Since the title of the thread includes "Roman" (meaning, Latin Rite), the current status on the issue of celibacy is: No, dili pwede ang Romano Katoliko nga pari magminyo. It's Church law, man-made law which I think started around the middle centuries. Kay sa miaging mga katuigan priests were not celibate. But as far as other Catholic religions are concerned (e.g. Greek Orthodox and other rites) they give their priests option to get married before ordination. But those who get married have no chance of being elevated to the rank of Bishops. For those who chose to stay as celibate, once ordained, dili napod pwede mag minyo.

Celibacy issue is human precept, not natural law. So, pwede gehapon ibalik sa dating practice... but not likely in our lifetime hehehe.

Re: Gwarg's quotation about celibacy as a command of Christ, nope, there's no such verse where Christ ordered celibacy for his priests (he only talk about it as a gift/charism for some, but not for all)... although most of His disciples left homes and families in order to follow Jesus and were sent as Apostles to bring the good news to all corners of earth.

But as of the present, Canon Laws prohibits priests from getting married... automatic ang penalty which is the suspension of his priestly function. So kung magminyo ang pari, way mahimo ang simbahan, and yet priests stay as priests according to the line of Melchiades, aw, Melchisedech d i, dili na lang maka function as one except in case of real emergency... when all rules collapse!

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ms da binsi · « **Reply #113 on:** October 02, 2009, 01:34:31 PM »

Dia man diay ning thread lami basahon, way nakahatag nakog notisya bahin ani maong nalipat bwahaha. Since the title of the thread includes "Roman" (meaning, Latin Rite), the current status on the issue of celibacy is: No, dili pwede ang Romano Katoliko nga pari magminyo. It's Church law, man-made law which I think started around the middle centuries. Kay sa miaging mga katuigan priests were not celibate. But as far as other Catholic religions are concerned (e.g. Greek Orthodox and other rites) they give their priests option to get married before ordination. But those who get married have no chance of being elevated to the rank of Bishops. For those who chose to stay as celibate, once ordained, dili napod pwede mag minyo.

Celibacy issue is human precept, not natural law. So, pwede gehapon ibalik sa dating practice... but not likely in our lifetime hehehe.

Re: Gwarg's quotation about celibacy as a command of Christ, nope, there's no such verse where Christ ordered celibacy for his priests (he only talk about it as a gift/charism for some, but not for all)... although most of His disciples left homes and families in order to follow Jesus and were sent as Apostles to bring the good news to all corners of earth.

But as of the present, Canon Laws prohibits priests from getting married... automatic ang penalty which is the suspension of his priestly function. So kung magminyo ang pari, way mahimo ang simbahan, and yet priests stay as priests according to the line of Melchiades, aw, Melchisedech d i, dili na lang maka function as one except in case of real emergency... when all rules collapse!

Lahi jud ug pari ang mo explain kay masabtan jud!!! Ug naa pay misa nga forum mo simba jud ko kay mas makasabut man ko ug basahon kay sa pamation sa simbahan kay lanug kaajo sa simbahan, di nako ma dungog ang wali.

Chicky, rocks!

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bugsay · « **Reply #114 on:** October 02, 2009, 01:56:25 PM »

maayo ni nga si Padre nay nag libkas ug mga pulong kay han-ay ug klaro and with autority....Thanks 'Dre.

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Mulligan · « **Reply #115 on:** October 02, 2009, 02:20:07 PM »

Kaloy-an ka sa Dios anak este Bai Bugsay.

Bitaw, tao raman jud ta. Kanang gi-ingon ni Pader Chicogon na human preceipt murag masabot man na nato. Kadaghan na sa akong nahibal-an nga mga katoliko nga pare nga nagminyo ug nag-undang pagka pare sa simbahan.

Diri sa CDO usa ka Fr. Robinson Montalba sa Carmelite parish church ug nahimong rector sa St. John Vianney seminary, bangi-itan na pare ug nagstudyo sa Roma pero nigawas pagka pare ug nagminyo. Ang iyang naminyoan murag ang usa pud ka nagmungha sa seminaryo nga ang building dool ra pud sa seminaryo. Lisod lage neng pare nga tisoyon kay daghan matintal. Maayo pa jud mo homily. Hehe

Unsaon, nasayop lage ug patik. Imbis celebrate, na celebate naman nuon pag-abot sa atong grupo.

Happy weekend everyone.

maayo ni nga si Padre nay nag libkas ug mga pulong kay han-ay ug klaro and with autority....Thanks 'Dre.

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hubag bohol · « **Reply #116 on:** October 02, 2009, 02:25:28 PM »

Kanang magpari ka mao ra na ug ningtabok ka sa usa ka tulay sa imong kinabuhi, a bridge towards living a celebate life. To live in celibacy is just like playing BRIDGE game. If you don't have a good partner you better have a good hand.

Bisayan Express Pronunciation:
Celibate- (sil-ay-bate): playing with something using one's hands

Bwahaha. Hain na kaha si Mr. Layman? Busy tingali with his good partner.

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chicogon · « **Reply #117 on:** October 03, 2009, 12:17:54 AM »

kabalo man ta anang balaora, gwargz. mura lagi kag CFD sa una. hehehe

pero, ang ako nga pangutana ba. basi sa imong kasinatian uban sa pari/mga pari, sa imong nakita, ug nabati, ang pagminyo ba babag sa pangatungdanan sa usa ka pari?

Unsay CFD Glace? Kujapan man pod ta nimo bwahahaha... Basin bag opposite sa CFC (Couples For Christ)... ka 'taning pod ning CFD. Hahaha, nagpasi-aw lang!

Naa ra ba po'y CFL sa Canada, originally Canadian Football League. Pero kung e CFL ra kay dikapugngan mosud sa huna-huna ang Lucifer sa L. Mao sad tong D (sa CFD) for Devil bwahaha.

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ms da binsi · « **Reply #118 on:** October 03, 2009, 12:21:58 AM »

Unsay CFD Glace? Kujapan man pod ta nimo bwahahaha... Basin bag opposite sa CFC (Couples For Christ)... ka 'taning pod ning CFD. Hahaha, nagpasi-aw lang!

Naa ra ba po'y CFL sa Canada, originally Canadian Football League. Pero kung e CFL ra kay dikapugngan mosud sa huna-huna ang Lucifer sa L. Mao sad tong D (sa CFD) for Devil bwahaha.

bwahahaha!

dungog kaajo diri imong bahakhak Chic! hahaha!

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jamo2x · « **Reply #119 on:** October 03, 2009, 12:47:04 AM »

Kaloy-an ka sa Dios anak este Bai Bugsay.

Bitaw, tao raman jud ta. Kanang gi-ingon ni Pader Chicogon na human preceipt murag masabot man na nato. Kadaghan na sa akong nahibal-an nga mga katoliko nga pare nga nagminyo ug nag-undang pagka pare sa simbahan.

Diri sa CDO usa ka Fr. Robinson Montalba sa Carmelite parish church ug nahimong rector sa St. John Vianney seminary, bangi-itan na pare ug nagstudyo sa Roma pero nigawas pagka pare ug nagminyo. Ang iyang naminyoan murag ang usa pud ka nagmungha sa seminaryo nga ang building dool ra pud sa seminaryo. Lisod lage neng pare nga tisoyon kay daghan matintal. Maayo pa jud mo homily. Hehe

Unsaon, nasayop lage ug patik. Imbis celebrate, na celebate naman nuon pag-abot sa atong grupo.

Happy weekend everyone.

sa catholic di jud pwde ang pari mag minyo...di pud pwde ang baji ma pari.

daghn sab ko kaila nga nigawas sa pagka pari tungod sa chix...naka buntis pud hehehe...
ang isa kay maru kaajo, human naka buntish, ni balhin sa aglipayan church kay pede man naay asawa

naa pud isa klasmeyt naho sa una, dugay na pari unya kay perti man ka wafa ijang youth coordinator...hehe nabuntis. gi papili sya sa obispo nga biyaan ang baji pero suporthan nila ang bata o balhin sa manila padajon mag pari...gipili sa ahong migo ang uyab, lisod kay nakatilaw na og laing grasya

nianhi baya to dri sa merika tabangan naho og ngitag work...tuod naka work man pero antus lag more than 2 years work dri, na over depressed man labi na pag winter tym, niuli tawn sa ijang family...di ko sure og emotional depression o uwag jud to

tungod cguro sa kamingaw, naa sab isa ka pari nag kadaun sa madre..nag unay na cla sa kumbento; naa na cla ron sa Texas, ang ex priest nahuman og PT, so mao na ijang work ron and they are blessed and successful with kids now

ahhhhhhh the road less travelled by

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