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Blessing Ba Gihapon Kun Naa Kay Suffering?
« on: March 14, 2009, 10:00:16 PM »
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Re: blessing ba gihapon kun naa kay suffering?
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2009, 10:22:26 PM »
Lee mag hinisgutay ta ug suffering, wa tingali maka tupong sa akoa!

i cant even tell if this is a blessing anymore...

i dont want to think this is a punishment either...

because i dont deserved to be punished kay i know by heart i am a good person...

i think suffering is part of survival in this world.

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Re: blessing ba gihapon kun naa kay suffering?
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2009, 11:22:38 PM »
Suffering is part of life, but it is through the Grace of The Almighty that continues to strengthen us, encourage us, pick us up, to continue with the burden of our own individual crosses (what so ever they may be).

To suffer and continue in the faith is to be justified. And to be justified, we will be glorified by the Lord God in Heaven. Everything and everyone is By His Grace.

Scripture resounds:

 18 I consider that our present sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory that will be revealed in us. 19 The creation waits in eager expectation for the sons of God to be revealed. 20 For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope 21that the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the glorious freedom of the children of God.

 22 We know that the whole creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time. 23 Not only so, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for our adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies. 24 For in this hope we were saved. But hope that is seen is no hope at all. Who hopes for what he already has? 25 But if we hope for what we do not yet have, we wait for it patiently.

 26 In the same way, the Spirit helps us in our weakness. We do not know what we ought to pray for, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groans that words cannot express. 27 And he who searches our hearts knows the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints in accordance with God's will.

28 And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him,who have been called according to his purpose. 29 For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the likeness of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. 30 And those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified.

 31 What, then, shall we say in response to this? If God is for us, who can be against us?


-Romans 8: 18-31



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Re: blessing ba gihapon kun naa kay suffering?
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2009, 06:55:56 AM »
Yes. Cause God is letting you realize that He is still there, if naa kay sufferings, that is the time you remember God. Thus, you pray and renew yourself.

Wala ka niya pasagdi, the more we suffer, the more we tend to get close to Him.

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Re: blessing ba gihapon kun naa kay suffering?
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2009, 06:59:26 AM »
a family member of mine got seriously ill years ago. it was heartbreaking for me because that was the first time i witnessed the person very sick. i suffered to have watched my family devastated by the  prevailing situation. we knew there weren't any chance for the person to get better. it was time for me to let go and let God.

during those trying moments in our family, the show of support from people, both known and unknown to me, were incredible and touching. i'd never felt that much blessing in my life in spite of the suffering my family and i had gone through. God was there. and it was more spiritually uplifting to me than being lost. a suffering had brought life and deepened faith in me and my family, and dicovered the blessing of love and friendship. 

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Re: Blessing Ba Gihapon Kun Naa Kay Suffering?
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2009, 05:12:09 AM »
MY SUFFERING is MY OFFERING ! just carry your cross...
blessing gihapon ang tanan.   please listen @ watch this one...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2UZEdI7bRs&feature=related

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« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2009, 05:25:44 AM »
Matuman ang imong pag buot dinhi sa yuta ...

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LORD we need your Mercy and Grace today !  

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Re: Blessing Ba Gihapon Kun Naa Kay Suffering?
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2009, 06:55:38 AM »
Yes of course! Laay man pod kon pirmi bwenas.
Giwali sa pari karon ang nag amok nga teenager sa Stuttgart na angin nga shock ang lunsod sa nahitaboan, karon puno ang mga simbahan sa ila, they seek God, after feeling lost.


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« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2009, 07:14:54 AM »
Isn't it so funny that it is only after tragedy or when one feels lost/anguish/pain that many Christians go to church to seek solace and comfort in the House of God?

How much would our Loving Father In Heaven would love it if we all would go to church and visit His House and listen to His Words not only on sad/trying times. But also when we are happy, encouraged, feeling justified.

Because Our Lord God is Always Good. Everyday. Anyday.

It is only in times of pain and anguish do we, Sons and Daughters of Adam and Eve, that we seek The Most High. In grave times, do we realize our own mortality. Our individual finiteness.

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Re: Blessing Ba Gihapon Kun Naa Kay Suffering?
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2009, 07:20:41 AM »
This is why we should always exalt the Name of the Lord
For whose name is worthy of praise, besides The Lord Most High?
Whose hands made the Expansive Universes by mere command.
Whose own Love and Mercy--that he sent His only Begotten Son Jesus Christ
To be the ultimate and perfect sacrifice for Man's Sins.

It is obvious that Our Lord God Loves Us.
He has given the measure, provided us with means of salvation, and has surrounded us with His Angels.

We are made to suffer. We suffer because Adam and Eve fell from Eden.
That is why we anguish in pain since birth, and till our last breath before Death claims us. We suffer because it reminds us of our Original Sin.

We Suffer because it reminds us of the Love of Our God.
That God Most High came down from Heaven To Earth.
Became Man, and SUFFERED and DIED For Us.

Do you all not understand that beauty? The message of Our Lord Jesus Christ, who comes in the NAME OF HIS FATHER IN HEAVEN?

He suffered for US!
He DIED for US!

Our present sufferings pales in comparison.

God Bless You All!!

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Re: Blessing Ba Gihapon Kun Naa Kay Suffering?
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2009, 12:27:18 PM »
Lee mag hinisgutay ta ug suffering, wa tingali maka tupong sa akoa!


di ko mutuo ini. ang akong suffering maoy pinakagrabe. peace, mdb.
kung kabalo lang mo.

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« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2009, 06:41:49 PM »
di ko mutuo ini. ang akong suffering maoy pinakagrabe. peace, mdb.
kung kabalo lang mo.

unsa na klase na suffering?

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Re: Blessing Ba Gihapon Kun Naa Kay Suffering?
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2009, 07:49:00 PM »
Calle, palihug isay say imong suffering kono kay mobasa ko.

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« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2009, 08:15:50 PM »
di ko mutuo ini. ang akong suffering maoy pinakagrabe. peace, mdb.
kung kabalo lang mo.

grabe jud diay ni, bay. peace.

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Re: Blessing Ba Gihapon Kun Naa Kay Suffering?
« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2009, 10:49:18 PM »
Di lang blessing ang suffering grasya na siya.Dawaton nato ang suffering bisan unsa kalisod ug kasakit kay sa atong willingness modawat ana makuhaan unya atong suffering ug kintahay makahapit pa tag purgatoryo.Mao nay giingon ang suffering diri sa kalibutan mao nay atong purgatoryo nga gi purify na ta daan sa Ginoo.
Hunahunaa ang suffering sa atong Ginoo  Jesus ug sa Blessed Virgin Mary kung imo jud tugkaron ila kasakit wa ra na atong kasakit.Tan awa ang mga great Saints kung imo basahon ila kinabuhi ila ra giampo nga unta mag suffer pud sila kay gusto sila mo share sa kasakit sa atong Ginoo.Atong natural tendency nga mag ampo ta ug Lord ipalayo intawon mi sa mga suffering pero ang mga santosonon nag pray na sila ug more suffering.

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Re: Blessing Ba Gihapon Kun Naa Kay Suffering?
« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2009, 10:54:12 PM »
Akong ampo ron Inday Raquel nga maka uli og Bohol. Ikaw naka-angin pakita ug mga litrato maka mingaw jamo.

By the way, I am so impressed with your kind thoughts, bala-anon ka Indayon, God bless your parents for raising a good daughter like you.

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Re: Blessing Ba Gihapon Kun Naa Kay Suffering?
« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2009, 01:06:26 AM »
basta dili lang na nimo hunahunaon nga nagsuffer ka wala nay problem. kana kay buhi kay blessed ka. naa pa gihapon kay igong rason mga malipay kay sa ngadto ngadto naa ra gihapon ang himaya. walay santos nahimong haruhay. puro sila nag agi ug kalisdanan.

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« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2009, 08:57:36 AM »
di ko mutuo ini. ang akong suffering maoy pinakagrabe. peace, mdb.
kung kabalo lang mo.

unsa na klase na suffering?
Calle, palihug isay say imong suffering kono kay mobasa ko.
grabe jud diay ni, bay. peace.

dihay mga panahon sa akong kinabuhi nga dili musawop ang adlaw nga dili ko maghilak ug magbakho sa akong kahimtang.

ang kapait ug kasakit sa kinabuhi akong naagian. dili ko na lang isaysay ang sugilanon sa akong kinabuhi. pero pait jud ang kinabuhi ni calle.

maayo pa ang paliya, bisan pait, na kay mapupu nga bitamina. bisan pa atong ingnun nga nakat-on ko nga mubarog sa akong kinabuhi gumikan sa akong kaagi, nagbaha sad ang akong mga luha ug ako naanod. mao karun, naingun-ani ko. way direction. way baruganan. happy-go-lucky. way libog. uncomplicated. carefree.

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Re: Blessing Ba Gihapon Kun Naa Kay Suffering?
« Reply #18 on: March 17, 2009, 09:06:47 AM »
Calz, you are not alone! preha ta way libog (dili libog ha) hahaha i can live my life in any situation.

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« Reply #19 on: March 17, 2009, 12:21:56 PM »
daghan man ka anang libog, mdb. hahaha

ako pud, hahaha.

there's something in you that i like, mdb. now i know its being "way libog".

ako pud diay dad-unon ug buot. way buot. kuwang ug buot.

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Re: Blessing Ba Gihapon Kun Naa Kay Suffering?
« Reply #20 on: March 17, 2009, 01:20:44 PM »
How Then Shall We React When Suffering?
Firstly, , we need to understand God the Father's attitude toward suffering. He is a Sovereign God who works all things according to His perfect wisdom and will. He does not see suffering as something evil to avoid. Rather, He harnesses it to become an instrument for our eventual good and His glory. He knows the end from the beginning and can use the evil intentions of persecutors to actually achieve His will and our eventual blessing. Peter states, "For it is commendable if a man bears up under the pain of unjust suffering because he is conscious of God. {20} But if you suffer for doing good and you endure it, this is commendable before God" (1 Peter 2:19-20) In contrast to God's commendation, suffering, in the eyes of the world is a thing of 'shame'. Unfortunately, if we lose sight of God's sovereign wise control over suffering, it is possible for us as believers to begin to view our suffering with the same attitude as the world. That is, we then begin to feel 'ashamed'.

But this need not occur if we remember Peter's encouragement. "{16} However, if you suffer as a Christian, do not be ashamed, but praise God that you bear that name." (1 Peter 4:16) Being a disciple of Jesus Christ is never something of which we should be ashamed.

Secondly, there is the human sense of 'fear' which springs up in the heart so naturally at times of suffering. Note our risen Saviour's encouragement to the Church at Smyrna, "Do not be afraid of what you are about to suffer. I tell you, the devil will put some of you in prison to test you, and you will suffer persecution for ten days. Be faithful, even to the point of death, and I will give you the crown of life." (Revelation 2:10) Peter also writes "But even if you should suffer for what is right, you are blessed, "Do not fear what they fear; do not be frightened." (I Peter 3:14)

Thirdly, one of the hardest emotions to handle is the 'surprise' aspect of suffering, especially when being suddenly accused as an evildoer. 'Why should this happen to me?' is our cry. Peter also has an answer to this - "Dear friends, do not be surprised at the painful trial you are suffering, as though something strange were happening to you. {13} But rejoice that you participate in the sufferings of Christ, so that you may be overjoyed when his glory is revealed." (1 Peter 4:12-13)



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« Reply #21 on: March 17, 2009, 01:50:23 PM »
suffering is part of our life and life without suffering is nothing. living without suffering has no experience at all. it will not elevate us into another higher being in life.

uban gani nag suffer sa ALMORANAS for life!!!! herhehe!

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« Reply #22 on: March 17, 2009, 02:56:33 PM »
Mao nay giingon," sa dihang nagpakatawo ta, gikaluhaan na ta sa mga sufferings o mga pag-antos."

Ang tawo nga walay sufferings, "bu****".

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« Reply #23 on: March 17, 2009, 03:36:22 PM »
No I understand better, at my age I´m a lot happy go lucky. The troubles that I went through was hard and I think I´m starting to react by taking things now differently.
I simply function as a best friend to my kids, no sermons, no spankings. This has saved a lot of nerves and peace of mind, thanks for the sufferings, Praise the Lord.

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« Reply #24 on: March 17, 2009, 03:53:09 PM »
Yes ! just as they say , ´´kung way pag-antos dili masantos``
suffering can lead us  nearer to God ´´AWAKENING`` sa atong kinabuhi .
Usayhay mahimong ´´inspirasyon`` ug ´´trials`` aron mag sikap sa buhay at magmalamposon.


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« Reply #25 on: March 18, 2009, 12:16:13 AM »
is it really true nga kung naa kay mole sa imong abaga, nagpasabot pud na kay nagpas-an ka ug pag-antos hangtud sa hangtud?

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« Reply #26 on: March 18, 2009, 09:37:34 AM »
naay ako bnc dako raba kaajo. pero way balahibo ni.

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« Reply #27 on: March 18, 2009, 10:00:59 AM »
unsay inyong opinion?

Sometimes Ate Lee, ang atong suffering is God's positive purpose.

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« Reply #28 on: March 18, 2009, 10:41:14 AM »
i'd think this is part of our trials

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« Reply #29 on: March 24, 2009, 12:12:03 PM »
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Re: Blessing Ba Gihapon Kun Naa Kay Suffering?
« Reply #30 on: March 24, 2009, 01:10:54 PM »
para nako it is a blessing kay dili man ka hatagan ni Lord ug dili nimo kaya.  spices na sa kinabuhi.

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Re: Blessing Ba Gihapon Kun Naa Kay Suffering?
« Reply #31 on: May 20, 2009, 12:51:18 PM »
Christ Jesus suffered for our sakes, by his scourging, by his betrayal, by his undergoing unfair trial, by his painful road to Calvary. By His most pious consecration, by His painful crucifixion on the Cross.

His suffering on the Cross and ultimate death for us is the greatest example of Blessing through suffering.

He suffered and died, so that we may LIVE.
He died so that we could be saved.

And he rose from the dead, because His Father would not allow death to keep His only begotten Son. So inasmuch as God the Father raised His son on the 3rd day, so too--will he raise those who die and believe in His Son, Jesus Christ.

Blessing through Suffering.
You can't have one without the other.

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