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pioneer · « **on:** February 27, 2008, 09:41:09 PM »

Bohol Sunday Post

Ushering in this year's first Presidential visit, the provincial government-led celebration of the first Bohol-Jiangxi Friendship Day on May 8 will bring to Bohol representatives and diplomats from the Province of Jiangxi and the People's Republic of China, and other guests who have been instrumental in propelling Bohol's development thrusts.

There will be ceremonies in the morning for the celebration and another international-factor event in the afternoon, the groundbreaking of the Panglao-Bohol International Airport Development Project (PBIADP) where President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo will lead the rites.

Working committees that comprise the First Bohol-Jiangxi Friendship Day and Presidential Visit Organizing Team created based on the executive order that Governor Erico B. Aumentado issued started putting the pieces together to prepare for the First Bohol-Jiangxi Friendship Day celebration and presidential visit on May 8.

The Province of Bohol and the Province of Jiangxi of the People's Republic of China entered into a sisterhood agreement on May 8, 2006 identifying agriculture, education (science and technology), culture, and tourism as preliminary areas of exchange of ideas.

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #1 on:** March 04, 2008, 03:07:56 PM »

Yao Zhe! Fei Li Pen Guo Ren! Zhong Guo Ren! Yao Zhe! Yao Zhe!
(Long Live Filipino-Chinese Brotherhood)

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pioneer · « **Reply #2 on:** March 04, 2008, 03:09:55 PM »

My fear is when China would secretly exploit Bohol's hidden natural wealth found underground.

Business as usual. Hope our people would benefit from it.

China has made a strong presence in Nigeria. Chinese companies are exploring the vast oil reserves in Africa.

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #3 on:** March 04, 2008, 03:12:25 PM »

Let us hope they don't overstep their welcome.

I wouldn't be surprised to see more Chinese immigrating to Bohol.

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pioneer · « **Reply #4 on:** March 04, 2008, 03:15:15 PM »

Our country is already controlled by Chinese tycoons.

Henry Sy (SM, Mall of Asia), Lucio Tan (PAL), Gokongwei (Cebu Pacific), and many more.

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-<GEC348>- · « **Reply #5 on:** April 10, 2008, 05:14:49 AM »

I overheard this from a 10 year old girl: "In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. Everything else is made in China."

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-<GEC348>- · « **Reply #6 on:** April 10, 2008, 05:15:20 AM »

Who could resist China?

Cheers to our Chinese heritage!

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Happy · « **Reply #7 on:** April 10, 2008, 05:18:24 AM »

Cheers GEC and welcome back

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-<GEC348>- · « **Reply #8 on:** April 10, 2008, 05:45:30 AM »

I'm happy to be back, Happy, And even more happier that you cheered me back

Pasensiya na if I'm not online as often and as enduring as before, he he.

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Happy · « **Reply #9 on:** April 10, 2008, 05:54:48 AM »

Its ok GEC
It's not only you ang dili makanhi permi
Hasta sab ko absent permi

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kiamoy · « **Reply #10 on:** April 10, 2008, 06:19:19 AM »

I overheard this from a 10 year old girl: "In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. Everything else is made in China."

Murag sa ako customer. "I don't want made in China I want made in USA!!!" toink.

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B:) · « **Reply #11 on:** April 10, 2008, 06:25:51 AM »

kiamoy palamuot imong customer kay inig ari nya sa USA, halos pod tanan Made in China, toink!

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-<GEC348>- · « **Reply #12 on:** April 10, 2008, 06:28:57 AM »

Made in China, sold in the USA, patronized by Filipinos

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kiamoy · « **Reply #13 on:** April 10, 2008, 06:29:10 AM »

haha! cge man cya reklamo sa product..then i told her to let me know s/n..sus! kta cya made in china.. dah..samot ka irate..haha..
wa pa tale ka bati ug offshore nor globalization..

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B:) · « **Reply #14 on:** April 10, 2008, 06:36:49 AM »

actually GEC and kiamoy..what happen was nag outsourcing lagi ang kadaghanang businesses sa US padala didto sa China, mao to all US materials and etc. didto na gipadala sa China, unya sila nalang ang nag assemble. Mao na ang tatak Made in China.

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kiamoy · « **Reply #15 on:** April 10, 2008, 06:40:11 AM »

hmm.sabagay..nanalang ta to.. assembled in china. lisud jud te if naay made in china nga tatak. kay mostly bya sa china nga products dili lig-on

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-<GEC348>- · « **Reply #16 on:** April 10, 2008, 06:44:47 AM »

I once toured China and bought a folding Chinese fan
But back in Shopper's Mart sa Tagbilaran, the same folding Chinese fan mas barato ra ang presyo.

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B:) · « **Reply #17 on:** April 10, 2008, 06:47:50 AM »

kiamoy, mao bitaw maka dismaya ang tatak nga Made in China and you're right, ang ilahang ubang produkto dili gyud pod nuon lig-on.

GEC..naunsa kaha ang nahitabo ato nga mas barato man hinuon sa Shopper's? basin nadala guro ka sa tourist price

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-<GEC348>- · « **Reply #18 on:** April 10, 2008, 06:52:27 AM »

Yes B:), tourist area ko nakapalit.
Magmahay unta ko apan nakahuna-huna ko:
Kon made in China man lang gani, sa China na lang jud paliton

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B:) · « **Reply #19 on:** April 10, 2008, 06:58:41 AM »

I get your point GEC..

tinuod gyud ka.

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #20 on:** April 10, 2008, 01:46:26 PM »

Who could resist China?

Cheers to our Chinese heritage!

May the friendship between the Philippines and China stay warm and beneficial.

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #21 on:** April 10, 2008, 01:47:01 PM »

I once toured China and bought a folding Chinese fan
But back in Shopper's Mart sa Tagbilaran, the same folding Chinese fan mas barato ra ang presyo.

Gec,

What part of China did you visit?

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Macky Ferniz · « **Reply #22 on:** April 10, 2008, 05:07:28 PM »

hmm.sabagay..nanalang ta to.. assembled in china. lisud jud te if naay made in china nga tatak. kay mostly bya sa china nga products dili lig-on

I like the practical aspect of China products. Tinuod dili lig-on pero some products does'nt need to be durable for simple reason of being obsolete in few months. Like USB flash memory or MP3 players, kung mo palit ka ug original, mahal kaayo unya abutan ug 6 months, obsolete na kay naa nay bag-ong technology nga mas advance. So I prefer to buy made in China MP3 players at 1/4 the cost of an Ipod.

The funny thing is that most of the US brands are made in China, patronized by Filipinos in the US, copied as counterfeit product by a chinese businessman in Bohol and this counterfeit products are being patronized by Boholanos, toink.

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Guy Matabao · « **Reply #23 on:** April 10, 2008, 05:50:42 PM »

Our country is already controlled by Chinese tycoons.

Henry Sy (SM, Mall of Asia), Lucio Tan (PAL), Gokongwei (Cebu Pacific), and many more.

What we can do? They are the wealthy Filipino-Chinese...in any way they also help
our economy and the people they employ. So, I dont mind having new Chinese businessmen
coming to our country. In our daily life, let's consider toothpaste! Toothpaste companies
are directly/or indirectly not own by Filipinos. In concept we dont have the money, so we
need the investors. As Filipino what we need is a strong non-corrupt leadership who will set
government policies...etc...in favor of Filipinos, but fair enough for them to survive. So, let's
start with ourselves as a common Filipino.

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Macky Ferniz · « **Reply #24 on:** April 10, 2008, 06:21:18 PM »

You are right Guy Matabao,

I consider the big business tycoons as Filipinos. They are citizens of this country and therefore, they are filipinos, tho they are of chinese race.

We are living in a free country and for me it is OK to have Chinese businessmen in our country as long as they do business fairly.

They are not really a threat at all, infact they are the front runners and engine of our economy. Without them, our market will be stagnant.

The real threat our country is facing at present and as ever before is corruption. Corrupt officials who hoard our resources and hide it in bank accounts of foreign accomplice.

These tycoons like Gocongwei were not born with a silver spoon. They excel through discipline, determination, thriftiness and perseverance. They should be the role model among all of us Pinoys.

Hope I said it well folks.

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #25 on:** April 11, 2008, 02:29:46 AM »

Well said, Mr. Ferniz.

You said it all.

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B:) · « **Reply #26 on:** April 11, 2008, 07:00:49 AM »

Yes you do Mr.Ferniz, absolutely right!

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Guy Matabao · « **Reply #27 on:** April 11, 2008, 07:22:21 AM »

OK guys see you.....

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-<GEC348>- · « **Reply #28 on:** April 12, 2008, 07:33:37 PM »

I once toured China and bought a folding Chinese fan
But back in Shopper's Mart sa Tagbilaran, the same folding Chinese fan mas barato ra ang presyo.

Gec,

What part of China did you visit?

Shenzen -- at the Window of the World. Small scale replica of the different man made and natural wonders of the world

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Vito Andoline · « **Reply #29 on:** April 12, 2008, 07:35:45 PM »

I overheard this from a 10 year old girl: "In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. Everything else is made in China."

China the best pirates of the world

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Macky Ferniz · « **Reply #30 on:** April 12, 2008, 08:35:21 PM »

You are right Guy Matabao,

I consider the big business tycoons as Filipinos. They are citizens of this country and therefore, they are filipinos, tho they are of chinese race.

We are living in a free country and for me it is OK to have Chinese businessmen in our country as long as they do business fairly.

They are not really a threat at all, infact they are the front runners and engine of our economy. Without them, our market will be stagnant.

The real threat our country is facing at present and as ever before is corruption. Corrupt officials who hoard our resources and hide it in bank accounts of foreign accomplice.

These tycoons like Gocongwei were not born with a silver spoon. They excel through discipline, determination, thriftiness and perseverance. They should be the role model among all of us Pinoys.

Hope I said it well folks.

Results of my pondering:

- Our very own Fil-Chinese are not a threat. They are our role models for economic survival.
- Fil-Chinese came to the Philippines due to one reason and that is to flee from persecution from Chinese communist party. Hence, I don't think they have allegiance in any form to the present Chinese government.
- Incase Chinese Government happens to collaborate with Philippine government, I believe Fil-chinese community would be the first to oppose.
- Real threat to our country is corruption by our public officials.
- The biggest threat I could imagine is a consented exploitation of our natural resources by the Chinese government through our government officials.

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Guy Matabao · « **Reply #31 on:** April 13, 2008, 02:48:16 AM »

You are right Guy Matabao,

I consider the big business tycoons as Filipinos. They are citizens of this country and therefore, they are filipinos, tho they are of chinese race.

Sana lahat Pinoy...parang tayo mag-isip kabayang Macky Ferniz...siguro aasenso ang Pinas.
We are living in a free country and for me it is OK to have Chinese businessmen in our country as long as they do business fairly.

They are not really a threat at all, infact they are the front runners and engine of our economy. Without them, our market will be stagnant.

The real threat our country is facing at present and as ever before is corruption. Corrupt officials who hoard our resources and hide it in bank accounts of foreign accomplice.

These tycoons like Gocongwei were not born with a silver spoon. They excel through discipline, determination, thriftiness and perseverance. They should be the role model among all of us Pinoys.

Hope I said it well folks.

Results of my pondering:

- Our very own Fil-Chinese are not a threat. They are our role models for economic survival.
- Fil-Chinese came to the Philippines due to one reason and that is to flee from persecution from Chinese communist party. Hence, I don't think they have allegiance in any form to the present Chinese government.
- In case Chinese Government happens to collaborate with Philippine government, I believe Fil-chinese community would be the first to oppose.
- Real threat to our country is corruption by our public officials.
- The biggest threat I could imagine is a consented exploitation of our natural resources by the Chinese government through our government officials.

okokokey.

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Bambi · « **Reply #32 on:** April 13, 2008, 05:34:05 AM »

I overheard this from a 10 year old girl: "In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. Everything else is made in China."

And all fake and copied.

Here in Germany everytime we have a World Exposition of Products, the Chinese center of exhibits is mostly controlled from the customs on duty and thereafter a closure is demanded and/or a case might be filed after a proven faking and copying German products. And they are the World master of this.

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Macky Ferniz · « **Reply #33 on:** April 13, 2008, 02:26:47 PM »

Americans created the brand, Chinese made the product, Filipinos patronized the product, Fil-Chinese in Bohol duplicated/counterfeited the product, Boholanas partonized the counterfeit products, since Boholanas looks attractive wearing counterfeit products, American men marries the Boholana.

This is the cycle of life

.

Aber GEC unsay imong ikatubag?

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Bambi · « **Reply #34 on:** April 13, 2008, 04:48:04 PM »

Americans created the brand, Chinese made the product, Filipinos patronized the product, Fil-Chinese in Bohol duplicated/counterfeited the product, Boholanas partonized the counterfeit products, since Boholanas looks attractive wearing counterfeit products, American men marries the Boholana.

This is the cycle of life

.

Aber GEC unsay imong ikatubag?

Macky, it is business as usual.

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Guy Matabao · « **Reply #35 on:** April 13, 2008, 10:27:54 PM »

Hindi ba ninyo alam!..... At present, with the West in economic crisis-banking credit crunch and if they don't recover..... it is East who will lead the world. Who are these countries? It is China, and then followed by India. They are the incoming new superpowers. China's economic growth is 20%approx. while the west is in almost stagnant. This is the growing speculation of people in the business world. Imagine this scenario on how the world will change.

If Chinese is investing now in the Philippines and it is welcome by our government, that's a good sign... at least our leaders knew what they are
doing.

Imagine also, there will be more Chinese and Indian tourist coming to the Philippines in the future. Start preparing good comments for them.

So?... They are good and better than us. Why?

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Macky Ferniz · « **Reply #36 on:** April 13, 2008, 11:28:31 PM »

The reason why China and India's economy remains strong is because of thier hard-line policies.

In India, a foreign company or business are not allowed if there is no 70% Indian ownership. That means 70% of profit will come back to India.

The same is true in China. For example Nike Shoes established branding in the US with production in China. Actually, there is no such thing as Nike factory in China, but shoes are made by 3 or 4 different contractors. So, 100% of profit in production will go to China. The US will only profit from branding royalty and not in production.

In the Philippines, very few companies would invest in production due to high fuel cost.

I have this insecure feeling if China will collaborate with Philippines. In terms of manpower, they have already surplus labors. Hence, they are only after of one thing and that is our natural resources.

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #37 on:** April 13, 2008, 11:47:47 PM »

The reason why China and India's economy remains strong is because of thier hard-line policies.

In India, a foreign company or business are not allowed if there is no 70% Indian ownership. That means 70% of profit will come back to India.

The same is true in China. For example Nike Shoes established branding in the US with production in China. Actually, there is no such thing as Nike factory in China, but shoes are made by 3 or 4 different contractors. So, 100% of profit in production will go to China. The US will only profit from branding royalty and not in production.

In the Philippines, very few companies would invest in production due to high fuel cost.

I have this insecure feeling if China will collaborate with Philippines. In terms of manpower, they have already surplus labors. Hence, they are only after of one thing and that is our natural resources.

That is true, Mr. Ferniz. As we speak, as China provides loans for the Philippines and shakes hands with our politicians, the People's Liberational Armed Navy is circumnavigating around the Spratley Islands and intruding in Philippine-held Kalayaan islands.

There are billions of gallons of natural gas around the Spratleys and China is already eying it.

Bottom Line:

Philippines needs a dual policy.
1) Maintain strategic relations with the United States, always
2) Engage with the Chinese in economic trade, other than that, do not give concessions.

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kiamoy · « **Reply #38 on:** April 13, 2008, 11:55:32 PM »

mura rapud nig sa Sabah nga namali ug return ang explorers..imbis sa pinas..ila gi uli sa malaysia.amft..

Most of the residents of Spratleys are Filipinos jud bya..

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #39 on:** April 13, 2008, 11:58:25 PM »

They are walking over us because of our military weakness. Mao ni this is why I want the US to be in the Philippines. So long as America is there, naay nuclear umbrella. One would think twice about invading the Philippines.

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Macky Ferniz · « **Reply #40 on:** April 14, 2008, 06:50:29 PM »

Philippines is on a strategic military location. Other than this, I don't think the US have acquisitive interest on our natural resources because if so, they would have taken the Philippines as the 51st State long back, but they gave us our independence.

The US has vast surplus of resources that they have not touched their oil reserves in Texas and kept Alaska unexploited for future generation.

So, I believe reinstalling a US base in the Philippines would keep China from advancing its military arrogance in the region.

However, now that hostility between the US vs. Vietnam, China & Russia had been neutralized and main focus is the Middle East, I doubt if they are still interested.

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Guy Matabao · « **Reply #41 on:** April 15, 2008, 01:47:06 AM »

mura rapud nig sa Sabah nga namali ug return ang explorers..imbis sa pinas..ila gi uli sa malaysia.amft..

Most of the residents of Spratleys are Filipinos jud bya..

There is no permanent civilian dwellings in Spratlys. Most of the structures there are military, own by the
different government who claim the Spratly group of islands.

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Guy Matabao · « **Reply #42 on:** April 15, 2008, 01:58:21 AM »

I support Bohol-China Friendship, that is a step forward for our progress.

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #43 on:** April 15, 2008, 05:57:41 AM »

Philippines is on a strategic military location. Other than this, I don't think the US have acquisitive interest on our natural resources because if so, they would have taken the Philippines as the 51st State long back, but they gave us our independence.

The US has vast surplus of resources that they have not touched their oil reserves in Texas and kept Alaska unexploited for future generation.

So, I believe reinstalling a US base in the Philippines would keep China from advancing its military arrogance in the region.

However, now that hostility between the US vs. Vietnam, China & Russia had been neutralized and main focus is the Middle East, I doubt if they are still interested.

I wonder how it would have been like if the Philippines was made into a state? Or an American protectorate?

I am against this, personally, but I can't help but wonder how the Philippines would have been had this occurred, I mean, all Filipinos would be given American citizenship and the islands would have been developed by American tourism industry and made into a resort base by the 300+ million Americans who love their 'exotic locales'.

I mean, Americans love Hawaii and the Caribbean because of the beaches. Imagine if they were able to come to the Philippines with no national checks?

Basically I'm asking this:

A) Do you think the Philippines would have been better off becoming an American state? Or some kind of American territory/protectorate?

B) If so, what are your reasons?

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #44 on:** April 15, 2008, 06:05:46 AM »

I support Bohol-China Friendship, that is a step forward for our progress.

I am for strong economic relations with the Chinese nothing more, especially not a political alliance with China, but I doubt the Chinese are looking for a so called Zhong Guo Ren-Fei Li Guo Ren Brotherhood (Chinese-Filipino brotherhood).

China is a growing enterprise; a collective of many provinces; and China is a nation state that has consumed ethnic minorities into its political state; per se the Tibetans, the Tai, the northern Indians in Arunal Pradesh (which China took over in 1962 Sino-Indian War), the Turkic peoples of Xinjiang, a western province of China.

China grows; and the fires of China's industry needs resources to fuel that growth. China's resources are limited; soon enough she will look outward to consume other resources within here sphere of influence.

If China is allowed to grow unchecked, she will go down to South East Asia namely Vietnam, Laos, Thailand, Burma for easy access to those countries' resources per se Timber, Oil, natural gas, copper, nickel, cadmium, lead, zinc, other precious metals.

China is already claiming the WHOLE of the Spratley Islands and even technically claims Phillippine-owned and occupied Kalayaan group. Even now, Chinese naval ships intrude in Philippine territory.
The Philippine Navy, which are old rusted down ships and some advanced frigates are not equal or strong enough to stand against massive fleet columns of the Chinese Navy. China has over 100 submarines, half are nuclear; China has destroyers, cruisers, naval corps of firgates and fast attack ships.

Philippine Navy only has 5 working naval frigates, dozens of fast attack patrol boats, and 10-15 aged WWII era warships.

If China is allowed to become the regional hegemon, we would have no way of stopping them. 100 million Filipinos against 1.3 billion Chinese?

That is why I want a strengthened Filipino-American strategic relationship. So long as America is in the Philippines and so long as there are strong relations between our two countries, China will not dare touch the Philippines for fear of American retribution.

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Guy Matabao · « **Reply #45 on:** April 15, 2008, 06:51:56 PM »

Philippines can not be an American State. Why? Long time ago, for two seasons; first Spanish-American, then Japanese-American that was World War II
our forefathers were always asking for independence. Why? Because of pride, they said Fiipino freedom, we want our own identity and our own Filipino government and many other reasons. In our modern times do you think that idea will gain support? No.....for same reasons...further at present we have more Anti-American Organizations. Maybe that idea of statehood will win in Bohol. Remember after the Marcos regime, the late Assemblyman/Senator
Bartolome C. Cabangbang from Tubigon lead that campaign for statehood. What happen....nothing, no support from the Filipinos.

Remember...Why the Chinese and Indians are successfull? They stand with there own, they patronize what ever thay had and self-sufficiency. Most Chinese wore plain white T-shirts made in China while Filipinos want to wear T-shirts with NIKE printed on it. Indians they still wear their "Purong ng mga Bombay", they never change that to a baseball cap. These are the essence of nationalism that contributes and make them successful, most of filipinos dont have that. In the Spratly issue, without American support we can hold that, if we fight like the Palestinians.

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Macky Ferniz · « **Reply #46 on:** April 15, 2008, 07:41:09 PM »

Philippines can not be an American State. Why? Long time ago, for two seasons; first Spanish-American, then Japanese-American that was World War II
our forefathers were always asking for independence. Why? Because of pride, they said Fiipino freedom, we want our own identity and our own Filipino government and many other reasons. In our modern times do you think that idea will gain support? No.....for same reasons...further at present we have more Anti-American Organizations. Maybe that idea of statehood will win in Bohol. Remember after the Marcos regime, the late Assemblyman/Senator
Bartolome C. Cabangbang from Tubigon lead that campaign for statehood. What happen....nothing, no support from the Filipinos.

Remember...Why the Chinese and Indians are successfull? They stand with there own, they patronize what ever thay had and self-sufficiency. Most Chinese wore plain white T-shirts made in China while Filipinos want to wear T-shirts with NIKE printed on it. Indians they still wear their "Purong ng mga Bombay", they never change that to a baseball cap. These are the essence of nationalism that contributes and make them successful, most of filipinos dont have that. In the Spratly issue, without American support we can hold that, if we fight like the Palestinians.

You mean skirmishes and guirella warfare. This will be very long and enduring. Please note that this is a different scenario as we are talking about wide and open sea with no place to hide. With this type of environment, we can not deceive the enemy. Thier sophisticated radars could detect any incoming intruders from miles away and their ships are equiped with powerful canons or smart missiles. Hence, suicide bombing technique by the Palestinians can not be applied.

They are only interested in the Spratly's, so they don't need to invade the Philippine mainland. With advance military supremacy, they can steal/exploit our resources in Spratlys as we watch helplessly.

Our only hope is US intervention incase deplomacy is failing. Souvereignty will be sacrificed, but it is a matter of choosing the less evil.

My worries:
Considering that the US has high economic dependence on China Vs. the Philippines, I don't know which side will the US favor? However, at least there is an intervention or a mediator.

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Guy Matabao · « **Reply #47 on:** April 16, 2008, 12:23:22 AM »

I don't mean we have to fight physically by having guerilla or suicide bombers because that is an act of terrorism against civilian and we can't gain friends or support from it. What I mean is we have to fight like the Palestinian in spirits because we knew we won't win the war but maybe in the wider sense we gain supports from those fair and freedom loving nations without politics. At least we show to the world, that we filipinos are brave and are ready to die for our country.

In the western world, people pay bigger percentage of tax to their governments while we in the Philippines we pay lesser, and despite of that majority of people try to avoid or escape paying tax. Tax revenue is the blood of economically stable country, these is where budgets are derived. It means more tax revenue the richer the country is.... Withis, I think our military defense problem will be solved, but again it is on trial because the filipino masses might not support that, like the US statehood campaign.

As I comment earlier; we must rely in ourselves, patronized what we have and be self sufficient. I think that is the only way that we can guarantee that our best interest as nation will be protected. I hope our politicians and the filipino masses who elect them, shall understand the true value of Nationalism.

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Macky Ferniz · « **Reply #48 on:** April 16, 2008, 08:39:34 PM »

I don't mean we have to fight physically by having guerilla or suicide bombers because that is an act of terrorism against civilian and we can't gain friends or support from it. What I mean is we have to fight like the Palestinian in spirits because we knew we won't win the war but maybe in the wider sense we gain supports from those fair and freedom loving nations without politics. At least we show to the world, that we filipinos are brave and are ready to die for our country.

In the western world, people pay bigger percentage of tax to their governments while we in the Philippines we pay lesser, and despite of that majority of people try to avoid or escape paying tax. Tax revenue is the blood of economically stable country, these is where budgets are derived. It means more tax revenue the richer the country is.... Withis, I think our military defense problem will be solved, but again it is on trial because the filipino masses might not support that, like the US statehood campaign.

As I comment earlier; we must rely in ourselves, patronized what we have and be self sufficient. I think that is the only way that we can guarantee that our best interest as nation will be protected. I hope our politicians and the filipino masses who elect them, shall understand the true value of Nationalism.

"I salute you Guy Matabao"

What we need as a country is to revive patriotism at individual level and to have social revolution (change of mind-set in favor for the Filipinos). With this two basic steps, all good things will flow.

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-<GEC348>- · « **Reply #49 on:** April 16, 2008, 09:43:22 PM »

I don't think China will make any aggressive move for now. It will wait until the U.S. is weakened as a superpower.

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Macky Ferniz · « **Reply #50 on:** April 16, 2008, 11:12:45 PM »

On the brighter side:
Kung Fu originated in China, popularized by Hollywood, Hollywood Kung Fu Films pirated by Filipino crooks, small vendors selling pirated CDs arrested by Police Agents who are black-belters of Kung Fu.

Another cycle of life.

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Guy Matabao · « **Reply #51 on:** April 16, 2008, 11:44:55 PM »

I don't think China will make any aggressive move for now. It will wait until the U.S. is weakened as a superpower.

Maybe....

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raldampong · « **Reply #52 on:** May 02, 2008, 01:22:48 AM »

Bohol Province-Jiangxi Province Friendship is more on Cultural Exchanges and tourism nthing more.

Carlos Chan- Founder of Liwayway Food Company is the owner of Oishi.
Oishi has about 5000 chinese workforce in Jiangxi Industrial Zone. They produced from Palm Oil to Potato Chip. And already invaded the Chinese supermarket of Oishi product.

He set also as a Honorary board member in Jiangxi Province. During cultural Exchanges, He invited our famous Loboc Childrens Choir becomes a big hit China, so LCC has shoot an ads in TV in China.

He donated a few million pesos and urges our farmers to plant potato (patatas) because our soil is ideal for patatas for his chips.

His son Richard is a good friend of mine, when I was in Shanghai. Nothing to speculate about Chinese invasion.

We boholanos should start planting patatos because Chinese is buying the Filipino Chips. big market for our farm products.

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Macky Ferniz · « **Reply #53 on:** May 02, 2008, 02:43:15 AM »

This is not invasion. However, there is potential danger whenever a single person does business without competition, which is called "monopoly". The one who controls a monopoly usually dictates the price.

We don't want to become like the tea planters of India where all inhabitants of one province became labors & tea harvesters with a single company controlling them. This is just one example of Monopoly.

The Chinese should come to Bohol with good intentions and do business fairly, allowing both parties to enjoy equal opportunities and working on a win-win proposition.

It's not wrong to be skeptical as Chinese holds a bad reputation on such issues. The worst fact is they are doing it to thier own people.

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #54 on:** May 02, 2008, 05:45:50 PM »

Hopefully our Chinese brothers will engage in fair and honest business.

Like my Lolo Mariano; he was an honest and fair Chinese businessman.

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-<GEC348>- · « **Reply #55 on:** May 02, 2008, 07:49:44 PM »

We really can't stereotype one race to be acting one way or another. It all boils down to the character of the person involved. There are attitudes displayed by Filipinos which are also prevalent in other nationalities, just as there are some unpalatable acts of say, a Chinese, which is also done by a Filipino.

In the same way, there are noble and admirable Chinese characteristics which are also present in Filipinos, and vice versa.

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Sigbin II · « **Reply #56 on:** May 02, 2008, 07:59:23 PM »

I don't think there's much to fear about a Chinese military assault or invasion either. Through the 4,300-odd years that China has been in existence it had never been aggressively invasive of other countries (except maybe for Tibet) and has mostly kept to foreign economic trade and relations. However, I am also wary of how these arrangements may actually develop with regards to resource extractive industries and programs.

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-<GEC348>- · « **Reply #57 on:** May 02, 2008, 08:04:16 PM »

They get something out from us,
we get something out from them.
If we can't milk them for their cash,
better wake up from the dream.

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raldampong · « **Reply #58 on:** May 03, 2008, 05:07:12 AM »

We really can't stereotype one race to be acting one way or another. It all boils down to the character of the person involved. There are attitudes displayed by Filipinos which are also prevalent in other nationalities, just as there are some unpalatable acts of say, a Chinese, which is also done by a Filipino.

In the same way, there are noble and admirable Chinese characteristics which are also present in Filipinos, and vice versa.

Correct ka Bai GEC, its not confined to one race. The Chan Brothers are Philantropist have noble intension and deeds. In fact these friendship is his initiative by promoting Bohol as Chinese tourist destination.

In our Boholano blood run Datu Puti bloodline, whose mother is Chinese that why hes name is Datu Puti (white skinned). I happened to know this fact when I was one of the convenor IP( Indigenous People) in 2003 meeting under the office of the Speaker.

Datu Puti is married to a Eskaya Boholana Princess. That why we have a connection in Butuan. Most of us has relatives in Butuan.

I live in China for 5 years, there cultural achievement is much greater than what I expect. We don't study Chinese culture in school because of Communism. Its our democratic form of Government that prohibit us in studying Chinese Cultures.

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Macky Ferniz · « **Reply #59 on:** May 03, 2008, 05:10:51 AM »

Hopefully our Chinese brothers will engage in fair and honest business.

Like my Lolo Mariano; he was an honest and fair Chinese businessman.

My great grandfather is Chinese who migrated from the island of Macau and settled in Tagbilaran. My mother called him Uyong instead of Lolo. According to my mother, he escaped from a communist regime. He was a good cook, but not a businessman.

His family name of "Sy" died out because he have all daughters. I hope someday to trace my roots back in Macau.

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raldampong · « **Reply #60 on:** May 03, 2008, 05:20:18 AM »

The reason why China and India's economy remains strong is because of thier hard-line policies.

In India, a foreign company or business are not allowed if there is no 70% Indian ownership. That means 70% of profit will come back to India.

The same is true in China. For example Nike Shoes established branding in the US with production in China. Actually, there is no such thing as Nike factory in China, but shoes are made by 3 or 4 different contractors. So, 100% of profit in production will go to China. The US will only profit from branding royalty and not in production.

In the Philippines, very few companies would invest in production due to high fuel cost.

I have this insecure feeling if China will collaborate with Philippines. In terms of manpower, they have already surplus labors. Hence, they are only after of one thing and that is our natural resources.

Filipinos are teaching Chinese workers about Quality. Many Boholanos are working in Shenzhen and Shanghai.

www.prident.com.cn

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Macky Ferniz · « **Reply #61 on:** May 03, 2008, 05:32:21 AM »

Correct ka Bai GEC, its not confined to one race. The Chan Brothers are Philantropist have noble intension and deeds. In fact these friendship is his initiative by promoting Bohol as Chinese tourist destination.

In our Boholano blood run Datu Puti bloodline, whose mother is Chinese that why hes name is Datu Puti (white skinned). I happened to know this fact when I was one of the convenor IP( Indigenous People) in 2003 meeting under the office of the Speaker.

Datu Puti is married to a Eskaya Boholana Princess. That why we have a connection in Butuan. Most of us has relatives in Butuan.

I live in China for 5 years, there cultural achievement is much greater than what I expect. We don't study Chinese culture in school because of Communism. Its our democratic form of Government that prohibit us in studying Chinese Cultures.

Welcome diay Rald sa Tubag Bohol. Taga asa diay ka? Ig unsa mo ni Brenda, Lily ug Lisa taga Guindulman. Akong misis ilang ig-agaw.

Bitaw, it is not good to stereotype chinese as fraud businessmen. Like we are stereotyping Japanese as nerds with huge overbite, holding a camera. It is the individual and personal background that matters. Infact, our culture is more influenced by the Chinese than any other cultures. The Kingdom of Butuan has established deplomatic ties with the emperor of China during the 14th Century and an ambasador travels frequently to exchange communication.

What I am stressing here is the unethical treatment of the present Chinese regime to its own people. Hope you understand folks.

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raldampong · « **Reply #62 on:** May 03, 2008, 08:44:25 AM »

Welcome diay Rald sa Tubag Bohol. Taga asa diay ka? Ig unsa mo ni Brenda, Lily ug Lisa taga Guindulman. Akong misis ilang ig-agaw.

Bitaw, it is not good to stereotype chinese as fraud businessmen. Like we are stereotyping Japanese as nerds with huge overbite, holding a camera. It is the individual and personal background that matters. Infact, our culture is more influenced by the Chinese than any other cultures. The Kingdom of Butuan has established deplomatic ties with the emperor of China during the 14th Century and an ambasador travels frequently to exchange communication.

What I am stressing here is the unethical treatment of the present Chinese regime to its own people. Hope you understand folks.

Taga Guindulman ko, aho silang mga Ig-agaw anak ni Sir Daniel Ampong sa Cabugan among Maestro sa grade lll sa Catungawan. Igsoon ni Tiyo Goging sa Ponod ijang anak si Jojie maajo mo sa Saxophones ug bandleader sa Capitolyo.

Diha pa duha ka laki igso-on si Niel, boxer to isa si Emie karon cook sa Barko. Kinsa diay imong asawa?

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Macky Ferniz · « **Reply #63 on:** May 03, 2008, 11:38:05 PM »

OT:
Akong asawa si Johde anak ni anhing mama Deding, igsoon bitaw ni mam Inday Simo, retired teacher diha. Bale ilang mga ig-agaw mga Susbreno ug Granada. Siguro kaila ka nila. Kadtong maayo mo saxophone, naka adto na ko ilang balay di ba maestra iyang asawa?

Unsay imong trabaho diha sa China? Naa ko daghang kaila diha nga mga supplier namo dire sa Saudi Arabia.

OK ra man ug quality ang China unya mas barato pa. Sa akong gina ingon, practical ang ilang products kay dili man ka kinahanglan mo palit ug lig-on kaayo unya after six months obsolete na. So mo palit ka ug igo-igo ra ang quality unya inig ka obsolete imo nang i-recycle.

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raldampong · « **Reply #64 on:** May 22, 2008, 07:19:03 AM »

OT:
Akong asawa si Johde anak ni anhing mama Deding, igsoon bitaw ni mam Inday Simo, retired teacher diha. Bale ilang mga ig-agaw mga Susbreno ug Granada. Siguro kaila ka nila. Kadtong maayo mo saxophone, naka adto na ko ilang balay di ba maestra iyang asawa?

Unsay imong trabaho diha sa China? Naa ko daghang kaila diha nga mga supplier namo dire sa Saudi Arabia.

OK ra man ug quality ang China unya mas barato pa. Sa akong gina ingon, practical ang ilang products kay dili man ka kinahanglan mo palit ug lig-on kaayo unya after six months obsolete na. So mo palit ka ug igo-igo ra ang quality unya inig ka obsolete imo nang i-recycle.

Sa pagka karon Di-a na kos Casablanca, Morocco. Nag manage kog French Company(Dental Product) based in Casablanca. Kamusta nalang diha sa ahong mga ka-igagawan nga dugay na nahong wa makita. Homecoming ta pohon.

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Macky Ferniz · « **Reply #65 on:** May 22, 2008, 05:17:48 PM »

Rald,

Kinsa tuod imong Lolo, si Tiyo Goging (tag saxophone ilang kaliwat) or si Danny papa ni Lisa?

Maayo diay kay nahiluna na ka diha sa Casablanca. Na miss nato ang fiesta sa Kabugan niadtong 7 ug 8 May.

Dia ko diri sa mamingawng lugar sa Saudi. Regards

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raldampong · « **Reply #66 on:** June 04, 2008, 02:48:54 PM »

Ahong Lolo Tereso Ampong sa Catungawan ( Tiyo Goging ijang anal si JiJie mao poy tig sax sa Capitolyo ug naa na sa Panglao namojo.

Dugay ko diha sa Riyadh sa una, King Faisal Hospital Specialist and Research Center akoy gabuhat sa Royal Family ug Marfil. From King Fahad ug ilang mga igsoon. 1987-97 ni uli ko na ko.

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Macky Ferniz · « **Reply #67 on:** June 07, 2008, 05:54:04 PM »

Kaila siguro ka sa kong mga ig-agaw sa Riyadh nga sila Addo, Danny Ancog, mga Decasa naa pod taga Guindulman or Candijay si Joe (Barbero) ug si Saul Ilano iyang asawa si Natty (toa na sila sa Canada karon).

Kadtong si anhing Lola Nitang, pure Escaya to siya kay lain iyang language. Sayang kay wala ko makat-on sa wala pa siya mipanaw.

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Guy Matabao · « **Reply #68 on:** June 10, 2008, 02:28:10 AM »

Hi! Komusta mga sano.....

. Dugay pod ko sauna diha...OFW ..............

. sige komusta na lang.

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tohnichi007 · « **Reply #69 on:** June 10, 2008, 11:25:17 PM »

My fear is when China would secretly exploit Bohol's hidden natural wealth found underground.

Business as usual. Hope our people would benefit from it.

China has made a strong presence in Nigeria. Chinese companies are exploring the vast oil reserves in Africa.

This could possibly happen Mike... I've heared from my father before of a story about hidden wealth or treasures. Somewhere in Pilar was known by treasure hunters of a possible gold treasures and just few months later a certain Japanese aid came to donate a school building and road construction to that place. A road and school rooms were built out of knowledge of the people that there was more wealth taken than the donated school building. Which I think was true... Why would they gave without any benifit and of all places why they choose that certain place in Pilar (nalimot ko sa baranggay basta tua sa bukid kaau na parte sa Pilar)

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Macky Ferniz · « **Reply #70 on:** June 11, 2008, 01:47:38 AM »

Niadtong Circa 1985 nahinumdom ko sa una nga nag quarry diha sa ilawm sa Bohol High ug nakuha nila ang part of Yamashita Treasure. Kalit nahilom kadto nga istorya. Kana diay nga Bohol High sa panahon sa hapon gihimo na nga Cadre sa mga Japon.

Ang Kumagay sa Dao, ngano man nga dina gi himo ang rice research sa mga Japon nga puro kabato-an sa una. Nahinumdom ko sa una Kadre gihapon na ug diha mi mag marchamarcha sa CAT. Kita ko sa pag kubkob sa foundation diha nga lawm kaayo, unya ground floor ra man diay ang tukoron nga building. Murag diha silay gipangita nga treasure.

Kinahanglan vigilant kitang tanan ug dili ta magpakawat sa atubangan.

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Guy Matabao · « **Reply #71 on:** June 21, 2008, 04:14:42 PM »

Hello Guys....how are you all! See you ...bye.

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jorgeanna · « **Reply #72 on:** June 22, 2008, 11:27:35 AM »

ang sa Dumaguete City, ang ilang sister city diri sa China which is Zhangzhou, is the city kung asa ko naka-base karon.. i met the city officials pag-ari nila diri this month pa gyud

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Macky Ferniz · « **Reply #73 on:** June 22, 2008, 05:12:41 PM »

Anna, komusta na mo diha sa China? Hope nga OK ra kamo diha ug wala mo maapektohi sa Floods.

Naa ko daghang contacts diha nga supplier og home fabrics, comforter sets ug living room fabrics. Ingon sa supplier nga ma delay ang shipments tungod sa floods. So, tinood ba ni nga dunay flood diha sa Zhangzhou? Dili man ko suhito diha sa China, pareha raba ni ang Zhangzhou ug Guangzhou nga atbang sa HK?

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jorgeanna · « **Reply #74 on:** June 23, 2008, 02:51:49 PM »

salamat nalang kay ang Zhangzhou is a much safer city than any other city diri.. this city is an hour away from Xiamen (naa ang international airport) and about 8-12 hours away by bus kung ad2 ka sa Guangdong mao nga layo2x mi sa peligro...

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raldampong · « **Reply #75 on:** July 01, 2008, 12:10:13 PM »

I used to worked in Shenzhen and Shanghai as Production Manager in Dental Company prior to my stint here Casablanca.

Shenzhen is a well planned city of Guandong Province. Window of the World is the main tourist attraction. About an hour away from Hongkong to Louhwu train station to Central Station in Hongkong.

Most factories are located in Guanzhou, Zhuhai, Shenzhen and New Territories which is adjacent to Hongkong.

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ms da binsi · « **Reply #76 on:** July 01, 2008, 12:13:15 PM »

Sus bag-o pa jud ko nag tan-aw ug Documentary about China, karon pa jud!

asa naman diay ka ron Rald?

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #77 on:** July 03, 2008, 04:19:38 AM »

salamat nalang kay ang Zhangzhou is a much safer city than any other city diri.. this city is an hour away from Xiamen (naa ang international airport) and about 8-12 hours away by bus kung ad2 ka sa Guangdong mao nga layo2x mi sa peligro...

Anna, how are the students? How is the life in Zhangzhou? Naa'y pictures?

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Macky Ferniz · « **Reply #78 on:** July 04, 2008, 07:04:15 PM »

Anna, komusta na mo diha sa China? Hope nga OK ra kamo diha ug wala mo maapektohi sa Floods.

Naa ko daghang contacts diha nga supplier og home fabrics, comforter sets ug living room fabrics. Ingon sa supplier nga ma delay ang shipments tungod sa floods. So, tinood ba ni nga dunay flood diha sa Zhangzhou? Dili man ko suhito diha sa China, pareha raba ni ang Zhangzhou ug Guangzhou nga atbang sa HK?

I heard Rald nga ang Guanzhou city gi build na within just 1 year. Mao na ang the fastest city ever built and as of now nag sigi pa ug develop for expansion. You can see there the most tower crane sa world.

Nag order mi ug mga home fabric like bedsheets, sala sets, curtains diha ug uban pang mga display materials. Akong gipa check sa among brand manager nga Saudi para sa progress sa production, ug ang iyang flight through Hong-kong. Then mo sakay siya ug boat kay atbang lang na sa Hongkong. Then mi tour siya sa north after the inspection, iyang gisakyan high-speed train nga mi abot ug 450 miles per hour. Iya pa ko nga gipakita sa photo nga nakadisplay sa monitor nga 450 mph ang speed.

Ang hotel sa China perting baratoha. Bale ang rate sa 5 star equivalent lang ug 3 star ug naa pay fruits & wine, double room pa ang kadak-on.

Nagmahay ko nga wala ko mo uban kay sa una ang akong concept sa China, mura pa sa nakita nako sa TV nga old China ug underdeveloped.

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raldampong · « **Reply #79 on:** July 13, 2008, 04:41:52 AM »

Sus bag-o pa jud ko nag tan-aw ug Documentary about China, karon pa jud!

asa naman diay ka ron Rald?

I used to worked in Shenzhen and Shanghai, three years ago nibalhin ko dire sa Casablanca, Morroco duol sa Spain, pero part sya sa Africa. About two hours from Paris, France.

Una nakong abroad sa King Fahad Hospital ug King Faisal Specialist Hospital and Research Centre, in Riyadh.

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raldampong · « **Reply #80 on:** July 13, 2008, 05:00:19 AM »

I heard Rald nga ang Guanzhou city gi build na within just 1 year. Mao na ang the fastest city ever built and as of now nag sigi pa ug develop for expansion. You can see there the most tower crane sa world.

Nag order mi ug mga home fabric like bedsheets, sala sets, curtains diha ug uban pang mga display materials. Akong gipa check sa among brand manager nga Saudi para sa progress sa production, ug ang iyang flight through Hong-kong. Then mo sakay siya ug boat kay atbang lang na sa Hongkong. Then mi tour siya sa north after the inspection, iyang gisakyan high-speed train nga mi abot ug 450 miles per hour. Iya pa ko nga gipakita sa photo nga nakadisplay sa monitor nga 450 mph ang speed.

Ang hotel sa China perting baratoha. Bale ang rate sa 5 star equivalent lang ug 3 star ug naa pay fruits & wine, double room pa ang kadak-on.

Nagmahay ko nga wala ko mo uban kay sa una ang akong concept sa China, mura pa sa nakita nako sa TV nga old China ug underdeveloped.

Very modern ang China, labina ang Shanghai ug Shenzhen. Kanang imo guingon high speed train sa Shanghai na sya. Technical term is Maglev Train or Magnetically Levitated Train. It is constructed by a German Company as experimental showcase, dahil China is planning to link all City by a high speed train. From New Pudong Airport to Longyang station. Nakasakay na sad ko ani. 530 kph ang top speed or 450 mph.

Kining Pudong bale ang mahimong venue sa World Expo 2010 China will showcase the best of the best in Pudong. Dinhi nimo makita ang 2nd highest sa Asia ang JinMao Building doul sa Huangpu River and the famous The Bond Street kung asa ang mga daan Building ilang gui preserved ug guibutangan dancing light.

You should visit there Mack To see is to believe. Labina kining WoW. or Window of the World. ganahan ka sa ilang Cultural Show nga authentic kaayo ang production. Kadtong ilang Egyptian Show.

http://www.nuevomondo2005.multiply.com/photos/album/4/SMT_shanghai_maglev_Train

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Macky Ferniz · « **Reply #81 on:** March 30, 2009, 02:48:37 AM »

I will boycott all Chinese products!

If I find any Chinese on my way, I will break his bones to pieces!

I will cancel my Cathay Pacific ticket this year!

Grrrr! I am very mad!

I will break this "made in China" Monitor and key board after this!

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