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« on: November 18, 2013, 03:10:45 PM »


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« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2013, 03:12:20 PM »
Hi ninjo dinhang tanan.

I want to solicit your opinion kung base sa video sa storm surge may nakapreparar ba kaha jud sa nahitabo or if nagpreparar man, was it enough given sa gravity sa storm surge?

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« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2013, 03:17:51 PM »
I feel offended sa mga comments sa aton Presidente mahitungod sa nahitabo sa Tacloban City.

Una, sa national television micomment sija nga ang Tacloban daw wa magpreparar sa pag abot ni Yolanda tungod sa dako kaajong damage ug loss of life.

Naa koy mga paryente sa Tacloban City ug sila mismo mibakwit before miigo si Yolanda, pero given ang terrain sa Tacloban City ug ang kakusog sa storm surge, makaingon ko nga bisan unsang preparasyon sa mga taga Tacloban wa juy makapugong nga daghan gihapon ang mamatay.

Preparar?

Well para sa ahong ig-agaw ug sa ijang tibuok pamilya, mibakwit sila sa usa ka evacuation center sa Tacloban City. Pero sa dihang miabot na ang bagjo, pastilan, delubyo ang nahitabo kay misud na ang dagat sa city.

Sakit palandungon nga makadungog ka sa Presidente sa balita gabii nga ang ijang basis sa preparation sa usa ka lugar ang number of deaths. Unsa man ijahang gusto, ang tibuok Tacloban ug kasikbit nga mga lugar ibakwit sa bukid sa Mahaplag? Pungot huna hunaon para naho nga may mga partidos didto. Gisabol ang mga tawo nganong namatay sila kay wa kono magpreparar.

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« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2013, 03:18:22 PM »
Diay laing video. Kani sa Tacloban City proper jud ni:


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« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2013, 03:20:40 PM »
Ang ahong nahibaw-an nga rule sa leadership kay:

IT IS ALWAYS YOUR FAULT.

Karon pa ko kaexperience ug Presidente nga in national television manumangil ug manudlo kinsay sad-an. Gisayangan ko sa ahong boto. Unja walk-out dajon sa Tacloban nga briefing.

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« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2013, 03:33:24 PM »
kun wa mag-prepare ang tacloban and leyte/samar, the deaths would have been many times more, matod pa sa experts.

duda ko nga knee-jerk reaction ra ni ni pnoy, bai tigs, tungod kay giunhan siya sa mayor sa tacloban nga nibasol pod niya nga awahi ang national tabang, on top of the negative international comments which came his way in the first few days.  maayo baya mananom ning atong presidente.  kusog modumot ug political enemies, hehe.  tan-awa ang iyang paggukod kang kanhing president gma ug kang kanhing cj corona.  farmer ni siya gawas nga presidente. 

bright side na lang atong tan-awon.  so far, at least, naa pay credibility atong nasod tungod kay he is regarded as someone who does not steal.  maayo na lang.
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However jaundiced and overwritten, the following article might provide some perspective.



Perfect storm
By Conrado de Quiros
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9:33 pm | Sunday, November 17th, 2013


There were in fact two disasters that Supertyphoon “Yolanda” wrought. The first was natural, the second man-made.

The first was Yolanda slamming into the Visayas, particularly Leyte, particularly Tacloban, with a fury we’ve never known before. The before-and-after pictures of Tacloban, the one lush with greenery and the other bare and barren, the leafless trees looming in stark relief across a gray landscape, brought tears to the eyes. And that was from afar. The scene up close, an entire city shattered, debris everywhere, bodies lying on the ground, people who had lost their homes and their loved ones wandering around aimlessly, numbed the senses.

The second was the disaster that attended government’s attempts to cope with this disaster. The second is probably the bigger one. It is certainly the longer and more debilitating one. The first (b)lasted only a few hours, leaving a city, or province dazed in its wake. The second has already lasted more than a week, leaving a country stunned and furious, wailing and cursing, frazzled and riven in its condemnation and defense of government.

Much of the disaster that befell government came from public perception, or government saying the most unfortunate things. P-Noy himself contributed to it. The immediate aftermath of the supertyphoon, when Tacloban lay in shambles, was a moment that called for inspiration and reassurance. Or for some Churchillian “blood sweat and tears” message, rallying the country to come together to fight off not a gathering storm but one that had already come. It was a moment that called for inspiring belief in government as a pillar of strength amid the hunger and death, amid the grief and despair. The country was no less at war than in the shooting kind.

Alas, P-Noy instead took issue with the number of the dead. By itself, that meant nothing, and under ordinary circumstance might even have been admirable. P-Noy had done it before, during storms and floods, while camped out in Pagasa, monitoring developments, making sure figures were accurate. But in the face of the awe-inspiring vision of the Apocalypse that was streaming into TV—unforgettable sights like a small group huddled in a makeshift shelter, hungry and cold, some of them keening for the loss of family, while the bodies of the dead teemed around them, they have nowhere else to put them in and too tired and too dead inside to do it—it sounded insensitive. It sounded like denigrating the public ordeal. And insensitive was how the public, particularly those with relatives in the Visayas, found it.

Just as well, P-Noy took issue with how Tacloban’s local officials, and the Romualdezes in particular, took care of their province and city. It was playing the blame game, Leyte officials themselves put it. It didn’t just sound misplaced, it sounded cruel.  It was all the local governments could do to remain a government: Their own police, soldiers and service-givers had been devastated, some had died, many had relatives that died, they were themselves desperate to survive. The task had fallen on the national government. And where was the national government?

It didn’t help that Korina Sanchez rebuked Anderson Cooper for asking the same question. Korina is not a public official, but she is the wife of a public official, indeed the wife of the one public official widely seen as wanting to become the highest official of the land after P-Noy. All she did, quite apart from bringing the wrath of the world on her head, was draw attention to her husband, the head of the police and local governments, and his inability to supply either or both.

There are limits to what the local governments can do when beset by a catastrophe of these proportions, and these are biblical proportions. That was how Barack Obama won a second term: Hurricane “Sandy” did it for him. Overnight, all the objections about the federal government doing a Big Brother vaporized, as the victims called desperately for it to intervene. Except that in our case, unlike New York and New Jersey, Tacloban did not just need being helped by the national government, it needed being temporarily replaced by it. Local government had been swept to the sea, or left jerking spasmodically around like a zombie.

The social media lashed out with the same fury as Yolanda. But it’s not just perception that caused government to experience its own Yolanda, it’s reality too. Specifically the chasm between the awesomeness of the blight and the awesomeness of the slight. Government looked like a deer caught in the headlights, frozen to the ground, dazed and confused. Government’s defenders would defend it by saying that Hurricane “Katrina” froze government too. But quite apart from the fact that the US government, then headed by George Bush Jr., was dazed and confused about a lot of things, Katrina did not bring images of dead bodies strewn alongside near-disembodied forms, huddled in the cold and dark, hungry and grieving. These are scenes from a war, not unlike the siege of Leningrad.

The foreign media, however transient or “paratroop,” however blithe and impressionable, were not far off the mark. They were merely echoing the sentiments, unspoken or roared out, by the despairing and angry: Where was government?

Well, it’s back there now, with no small help from volunteers, local and foreign, with no small help from the international community, with no small help from a nation roused to frenzied bayanihan all over again by the spectacle of the mother of all disasters. I do hope the recriminations dissipate and disappear over time, there is so much to do and so little time to do it. I do hope government recovers from the perfect storm that hit it.

I do hope we recover from the perfect storm that hit us.
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Buwisit presidentiha! Way buot! Nanamastamas sa mga namatay!

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It sounded like denigrating the public ordeal. And insensitive was how the public, particularly those with relatives in the Visayas, found it.

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« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2013, 09:18:38 AM »
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« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2013, 01:45:15 PM »
OPEN LETTER: After being stuck in a dead zone with no comms and internet the past 48 hours ngayon ko lang nababalitaan ang latest antics ng ating kagalang-galang na pangulo. So take this as one Taclobanon's OPEN LETTER to His Excellency, Benigno Aquino, President of the Republic of the Philippines. Mr. President, Gusto ko lang sabihin, NAGHANDA ANG TACLOBAN. IN FACT, most people we encountered who survived, survived precisely because NAGHANDA SILA. People were evacuated, centers were put up, and warnings were issued. Ang tanong, bakit madaming namatay? kasi tangina naman pre mas malakas pa ang yolanda sa katrina. Kung ang US nga hindi napigilan ang hagupit ng katrina. This was not something anyone could have prepared for. Isa pa, wala bang nakapagsabi sa yo na nasa tacloban ang SENTRO NG BAGYO?? pano mo maikukumpara ang "casualty count" ng leyte at samar sa ibang probinsiya ng hindi mo rin ikukumpara ang lakas ng tama ng bagyo. Pero alam mo minamahal naming pangulo, di ka naman namin sinisisi, p**t bagyo to eh, nature to, alam naming hindi ikaw ang dahilan nito. Isa pa, ang mga waray, hindi magaling sa blame game. ANG IKINAGAGALIT NG MGA TAO NGAYON ETO LANG: AT A TIME WHEN PEOPLE ARE DESPERATE FOR A LEADER THAT WILL SEND THEM A MESSAGE TO PICK UP THEIR BROKEN SPIRITS; AT A TIME WHEN PEOPLE NEEDED ASSURANCES THAT YOU HAVE THEIR BACKS; THE ONLY THING YOU GAVE THEM, WAS A BIG "f*** YOU TACLOBAN, THIS IS YOUR FAULT, DON'T BLAME ME." (Forgive my very liberal paraphrasing) Tangina naman pre (i hope you don't mind my audacity to refer to you on friendly terms), hindi naman namin hinihingi na pigilan mo lahat ng bagyo. O kaya na personally ka mamigay ng relief goods. Ang hinihingi lang ng mga tao sa yo, bilang lider ng sambayanang Pilipino, ang maging inspirasyon sa amin. The best leaders throughout history aren't remembered because they prevented huge disasters, they are remembered because when disaster inevitably struck, they inspired and rallied the people. I'm not an expert on Philippine history, but isn't that what your parents did? I'm sorry Mr. President, but you failed us. You failed the people of Bohol, Cebu, Leyte, Samar, Biliran, Masbate and all the other provinces that had to face the last few disasters. On a final note, that "casualty count" you so callously keep referring to? That's not just a number to us. That "casualty count" are family, friends, and neighbors that we will never see again. People we loved and cared about that we will never be able to laugh with or share a drink with. Don't get me wrong, I do not for a moment presume that you don't know the pain of loss. I'm sure you do. But, you see, that's precisely my point. I'm sure you understand, that any human being going through the deepest and darkest grief doesn't care much that it's this or that person's fault. What we need from you right now, Mr. President, is an outstretched hand, not a big middle finger.

Yours truly,
Biboy Alimangohan
Formerly of San Jose, Tacloban City
Current address: N/A

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I got this letter from the FB page of my cousin who survived the typhoon.   

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« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2013, 02:53:39 PM »
I have to share this also. Ang dati nako nga kauban nga maestro niuli ug Ormoc kay naa iya parents didto, mao ni naa sa iya status sa fb ron:

Timex Gsm
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Para sa Mayor ng Ormoc at sa kanyang mga official, sana karmahin na kayo dyan dalawang dambuhalang barko na dumating mula america, hinde pinayagan na dumaong sa ormoc sa kadahilanang hinde na daw nila kailangan ang tulong..laman ng dalawang barkong yan ang mga relief goods at maraming doctor para sa may mga karamdaman.. ngayon nasa cebu sila dumaong.. hay politica nga naman

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« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2013, 05:36:36 PM »
whaaaatttt?  gapakauwaw lang!

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i couldn't find any substantiating news report on this, loll.  couldn't this be one of those rumors that turned into rants that turned into alleged information when passed on, most especially among people who are suffering and are thus vulnerable to falling for the blame game?

the initial rumors of rape and pillage also happened in the aftermath of haiti's disaster.  in yolanda's case, those rape and pillage stories vanished as the days went by.  one couldn't tell whether those were true or not.  katrina in the u.s. also did not spare george bush from heaps of blame.  i guess it helps that someone in authority gets blamed.  fortunately, there isn't any item, written or said, that blames god. 

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« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2013, 06:15:53 PM »
I don't know Madam CJ.. My fellow teacher, Sir James was the one who said that, it wasn't passed on or I don't know.. I kinda believed in him kasi siya mismo naka experienced ani. Looy pod si Sir, kay nag amot amot intawn mga friends para sa iyang pamilite ug gamay nga pabalon para sa iyang parents sa Ormoc.

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« Reply #15 on: November 21, 2013, 06:34:46 PM »
i'll continue to look for reports related to this, loll.  i wish your fellow teacher well.  i hope he recovers from his emotional and psychological pains over this calamity.



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