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 Mindanao Davao archbishop seeks forgiveness for married priest
02/02/2009 | 01:51 PM

MANILA, Philippines - Davao Archbishop Fernando Capalla on Monday asked his flock to forgive one of the priests in the archdiocese who had been married in the past but has since regretted his act.

Capalla issued a statement seeking "compassion and forgiveness" for Fr. Pedro Lamata, after Davao City Mayor Rodrigo Duterte disclosed on television that he [Lamata] was a married priest.

"As the spiritual father of all the Catholics in Davao City including my friend Mayor Digong and my priest Fr. Pete as well as others who might be in a similar situation, I would like to appeal for compassionate reconciliation, that is, to forgive and to receive forgiveness," Capalla's statement read.

Excerpts of the statement were posted on the Catholic Bishops Conference of the Philippines website.

Capalla issued the statement after Duterte said on his television program last weekend that Lamata, now the parish priest of St. Mary's Church in Buhangin district, was married.

The archbishop said Lamata had contracted civil marriage with a woman as a young priest, but has long repented for what he had done.

He said a priest contracting marriage is a serious violation against the Code of Canon Law that merits automatic suspension from the ministry.

Capalla said Lamata had already been suspended from his priestly ministry because of what he did, but has since repented and restored to priestly ministry.

"Since that time until today, like a wounded healer Fr. Pedro Lamata has been a dedicated and energetic priest and pastor, well-loved and respected by many people especially his parishioners and friends, even from among the Muslims and Protestants," Capalla said.

Capalla learned of Lamata's case when he succeeded Archbishop Antonio Mabutas as the Davao archbishop.

He stressed that forgiveness is "being recommended not immediately but when both are predisposed for this Christian act."

"Forgiveness is given and received not to deny the Church's moral teachings—which must be preached boldly—but to admit the possible misinterpretation and misinformation that followed certain public utterances," he added. - GMANews

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 Super Balita, local newpaper in Davao City ,Feb. 4, 2009  revealed that the marriage of
 Fr. Pete  Lamata parish priest of St. Marys Parish of Buhangin , Davao City was solemnized
 in Dauis Bohol on May 11, 1982.

 Kinsa kaha ang pari niadtong panahona.? Apil pod siya  ug kasala. Walaon na lang
 ang balaod sa celibacy ug tugotan  nga magminyo ang pari, kay sa magtago-tago.
 
The truth will always prevail.

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nganong makasala man ang pari kun magminyo mas makasala tingali kun sige" " unya wala maminyo.
unsa may gusto diay sige lang fornication/adultery?

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AMEN, Amen.

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Kon pasayloon sa obispo ang pari nga magminyo, daghan tingali nga moawat.
Maayo magkabit-kabit na lang. Mas maayo, tugotan na lang nga magminyo.

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Kana tanan dili man na sala!

People are desined to have partners!

kinsay nag ingon nga makasala ang pari ug mag minyo?

only the catholic church???

daghang baloney diri oi!

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Ang nahitabo dili ba kaha, "birds of the same feathers  flock together."

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ug kinsa may gaingun ani???

si mdb ra oi! LOL

peace mdb.

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balhin nalang si siya sa aglipay church kay pwede maminyo ang mga pari didto.

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gi-reinstate na man siya sa pagka-pari sa katoliko, bnc. ang iyang pagka-minyo (Civil) gi-wagtang na kay gusto na niyang mo-aktibo sa iyang ministro.

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Dili man mabulag ang kasal sa  simbahan. Kon giwagtang ang civil marriage ni Pete Lamata, wala nay baroganan ang simbahang katoliko. Law maker, law breaker.

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Civil law is a creation of man. The Catholic Church is far from being its law maker.

did the church break the law? The Catholic Church has its own rules on the matters of faith. In deciding to welcome back in its fold the priest, it does not concern itself with the civil aspect of the controversy but on what the church believes to be in the eyes of God.

ang civil wedding wa man nay blessing sa church, nganung pakasad-un pa man sya nimu sir felix?

truly,

Zosimo calle

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kinsay nagsulti nga walay blessing ang civil wedding.. niingon ba diay ang ginoo nga dili nako hatagan ug blessing kung dili magpakasal sa simbahan.asa man na sa bible? hehehe

mubalik lang gihapon na sa Social Construction of Reality. Sociological Imagination ra na.

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Ang simbahang Katoliko  pinaagi sa Bible nagtudlo nga " kon unsa ang gihiusa sa
Ginoo, dili pagbulagon sila". Kamatayon ra ang makabulag kanila. Ang atong civil
law sa Pilipinas walay devource. Dili puede wagtangon ang kasal ni Pete Lamata ni
bisan kinsa. It was solemnized in the Catholic Church.

Unsay giingon sa Bible: Matthew 19: 6 "So then, they are no longer two but one flesh.
Therefore, what has God joined together let not man seperate."

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galibug na ko sir felix. ingun man lagi sa article nga civil ang marriage.

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sa kong kasinatian diha sa simbahan sa bohol kadtong mga gikasal sa civil dili papakalawaton sa mga pari pero sa mga nahibaw-an lang ha. akong gipangutana ang usa mga membro sa Familiy Life Apostolate (FLA) didto ug nganong ing-ana. Balaod kuno sa simbahan nga kadtong mga gikasal sa huwes or civil wed couples nga mga katoliko gidid-an sa pagkalawat kay wala silay basbas sa simbahan. wala ko kahibalo ana jud nga rule until that time. so akong gipangutana kung wala diay mo kahibalo nga kasal na sa huwes, makakalawat lang gihapon. ang tubag sa akong gikastorya, gaba nalang ang ilaha kay ang ginoo naa sa langit nagtan-aw nato. naglibog na nuon ko ngano.

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way bright o way bulok aning TB, bay Calle...basta pabuhagay lang tas atong huna-huna...kung uyon sila, ok. ug dili, ok ra pod. hehe

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Dunay mga requiremnts kon e annul ang  civil weeding : The first is abandonment, separation for long years, grave abuses of rights and others. Sa case ni Fr. Lamata, iya ba ning na violate aron ma annul ang iyang civil weeding? Dili tingali, because he is a priest. There would be no annulment.

Ang ilang civil weeding ge solemnized sa Catholic Church sumala sa Mattew 19:6. Dili mabulag ang ilang kaminyoon. Kon duna may annulment nga nahitabo kay gipasaylo siya  sa obispo, kini maoy dakong tamparos sa Catholic Church.

Mao ba diay revise teaching sa simbahan, "ang pari ge solemnized ang iyang kasal sa simbahan sa  usa ka pari. Sa dihang nabulgar na ang tinuod, gipasaylo sa obispo?

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korek!

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Sir Felix,

I understand your inquisitive nature on this situation, and I find it very unbecoming when one generalizes the Roman Catholic Church on the basis of one priest and his mistake. And let that be known that it was a mistake for him to marry even if it was a civil wedding. As a prerogative of royal priesthood is total evation and total sacrifice to Chist Himself.

To be a priest is to marry into the Body, The Blood of Christ Our Lord.

Why marry? As A priest is married to God's teachings. And The Word.

Let that be known that Fr. Lamata is not sinless in that regard, he violated one of the tenents of Priesthoood. Which is total celibacy. But then again, that is his qualms and his sin that he needs to battle and ask for forgiveness from his creator and Lord. Whom he serves as his priest to his flock. It is not for us to judge when we we ourselves are guilty of a multitude of sins. Either we choose to accept it or not, we are ourselves guilty of sin and shall always be, but through the grace of God, we are saved.

As Romans 3;23 reiterates, "For All Fall Short From the Glory of God."

Again, the actions and mistakes of Fr. Lamata are his own. And is not that of the Holy Roman Catholic Church.

Let us pray for him, instead of attacking him.


Sincerely,
Bran Lorenzo

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a, mao diay nay gitudlo sa injo nga kung pasayloon, nay "apan" or condition as manifested by your "apan dunay silot" posting above.

di man mi ingun-ana sa amo, so don't impose your practices sa amu. to each his own lang sa ta run.

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From an online dictionary:

Adj. 1. illusive - based on or having the nature of an illusion; "illusive hopes of finding a better job"; "Secret activities offer presidents the alluring but often illusory promise that they can achieve foreign policy goals without the bothersome debate and open decision that are staples of democracy"

illusory

unreal - lacking in reality or substance or genuineness; not corresponding to acknowledged facts or criteria; "ghosts and other unreal entities"; "unreal propaganda serving as news"

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Reading this thread, I am called to read the Psalms.

And there is a verse in scripture that best ends this talk:

Blessed is the one whose transgression is forgiven,
whose sin is covered.
Blessed is the man against whom the Lord counts no iniquity,
and in whose spirit there is no deceit.

For when I kept silent, my bones wasted away
through my groaning all day long.
For day and night your hand was heavy upon me;
my strength was dried up as by the heat of summer. Selah

I acknowledged my sin to you,
and I did not cover my iniquity;
I said, “I will confess my transgressions to the Lord,”
and you forgave the iniquity of my sin. Selah

Therefore let everyone who is godly
offer prayer to you at a time when you may be found;
surely in the rush of great waters,
they shall not reach him.
You are a hiding place for me;
you preserve me from trouble;
you surround me with shouts of deliverance. Selah
—Psalm 32:1-7


The mercy and forgiveness of The LORD is highest of all and cannot be fathomed by us, who are born sinners;

"as far as the east is from the west,
so far does he remove our transgressions from us."
—Psalm 103:12

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Sorry Brod Lorenzo and Brod calle for my mistake. THe correct word should be "lucid"
not illusive. Lucid means clear thought.

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hehehe.. kaw calle ha..

ang government under baya na sa Law of Divine Establishment. sa preamble palang daan naa na gimention diha ang Almighty God. isa pa, maka initiate ba diay ang pari or pastor kung wala silay licensed nga mukasal gikan ra gihapon sa atong balaod.

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nakasala ka sir felix as admitted. pero di ko muhatag ug "apan" sa akong pagpasaylo nimu sa imung kalapasan.

Peace to all!

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That is true, as a civil union before the law is predicated by means in a secular society. Civil unions are based on lawful union, for the benefit of the said spouses for benefit in taxes, in health care benefits, etc.

That is the very reason why we have civil union in one hand and a church-based wedding in the other. For the accustomed, it is observable to have a civil union first, in order to have legal notification an legalization of said union, and then have a church-based wedding afterwards, to solemnize the said oath before the eyes of God and Church.

Bright jud ka, Calle.




Lorenzo,

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Addendum, even atheists can have civil unions. In fact, one of the reasons they choose civil unions is :
a) evasion of religious discourse and tradition
b) legal authentication of union and acquirement of benefits guaranteed by the act of union ergo, tax combination, financial reasons etc.
c) Secularization


Cheers,

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Tito, bright gud ka kai taga Valencia gud. Bright jamo raba ning taga Valencia



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Maluuy an Ginoo ma human ta sa studies.

Pero I must say, well defended posts, Tito.

I like how you stick to the topic, and maintain your defense. It's a sign of good character.

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By His Grace, Tito.
By His Grace~

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sanabi ko na nga ba eh...hahaha. nitaas na man diay ning inyong kukabildo ani

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hhmm.. ang akong gimean nga ang government established na sa Ginoo. Kung kaslon ka macivil or simbahan pareho lang para nako. ang kalahian ra naay ceremony ang naa sa church kay nagbase ta sa atong mga pre-conceived notions like walay blessing kung dili kaslon sa simbahan...kungbaga mao na ni atong namat-an sa atong mga kanuno nunoan.

kay kung magstorya man gud ta ug blessing wala man na sa simbahan or sa civil. kay naa man tay ginatawag nga common grace. bisan pa ug unbeliever na or believer makakaon ug makaginhawa ta. mao ni ang common grace.

ang issue nato calle kay kung naa bay blessing or wala ang kaslon sa civil. kung established sa Ginoo ang government nato naa gud blessing ang magpakasal ug civil.
mao ra gud pud na akong ikashare. hehe i-asa man pud ng kaslon sa simbahan unya walay pagsalig sa Ginoo common grace ra sya taman. we live by faith and not by sight. ang ako lang balewala man ni God unsay makita sa mga mata sa tawo. ang importante niya kung unsa tong dili makita sa tao nga makalipay Niya.




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good point here, gelyan. grace is everywhere. common grace, as you said. but grace is also personal. which means that grace is not only inherent in creation but also it is given to those who seek in a responsible personal level. for example, to breath is a common grace, which is present in every living creature, human esp. but to care our lungs to be able to breath perfectly is every person's responsibility. that's what i call personal grace. well, i may out of the topic here. i just wanna share my thought on this. this is just my personal take. peace.

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whahahahaha...akong giangyan mary grace pod.

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hahahaha.. unsa na grace in the name? lol

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BARAYT jud ko da.

ok ra na oi. wa man nawa nimu "bisan" civil lang ang kasal, di ba?

ug nay muingon nimu nga wa toy blessing imu civil wedding, ingna nga gi-blessingan na mo ni st. zosimo calle de valencia! LOL

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glacier: nasayop diay na, dapat ma-hero pa ko usa ko masantos!

gelyan: grace iya name. LOL

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nanglangtod ka...ato sa una ka itupad og bayaw ni Dagohoy, unya pa itupad og bayaw ni San Pedro. ahaha

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gikapoy na ko interner. gawas sa ko sa tb kay na koy deadline.

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I know a preist from Bohol who is having a church in Toronto and he has small children and they are all darling.
His mom is the senior Diocise here in the catedral at St. Josephs.

He is responsible always to his family and church. We forgive those brothers and sisters who are partaking in pre-marital sex and why no forgive also a preist who is doing well for the church and his people as well despite his weaknesses and imperfections.

We are all human beings no one is perfect, even though we try hard to be.

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Thanks Lorenzo, it always seems like all the good looking men are either gay or preists LOL!

How are things back in America Lorenzo, I had read a headline ere it had read that some guy was planning to assinate Obama.

Just wish people would let him do his job the poor man was left to begin with cleaning up not just a messy house bt a stinky house full of a lot of financail garbage woes.

I just hope we end up doing better with in the next couple of years.
Take Care U!

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wow gihagoan jud nako read from the very start..nalingaw ko sa mga banggiitan nga padayag. 

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Magkayag tali ang kalibutan ug zamot kon e declare nga pwede na magminyo ang mga Catholic priest 

celebrate na dli celibate 

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