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Should Cory Aquino Be Declared National Hero?
« on: August 11, 2009, 04:33:41 PM »
By the Bohol Chronicle

A statistical split exists among Boholanos on the proposal to declare the late President Cory Aquino as a national hero. Fifty-three percent were against; 47% for it- in surveys normally given a (plus-minus) 3% percentage margin for error.

This surfaced during a phone/text survey conducted yesterday over the top rated "Radyo Merkado" of dyRD.

A high percentage who did not agree on delcaring the "icon of demoracy" as a national hero said that Pres. Aquino was not the only person instrumental in the dismantling of the dictatorial Marcos regime. They cited the major role as well of the late Manila archbishop, the late Cardinal Jaime Sin as well as other EDSA stars to include former Pres. Fidel Ramos.

"How about the late Senator Benigno "Ninoy" Aquino, Jr. whose death was the reason behind's Cory's running for the presidency," a respondent commented while asking "does Ninoy deserves also to be a national hero?"       

Other oppositors to the move cited other reasons, like "she was not even able to solve the murder of her husband" and her "unpopular move to protect Hacienda Luisita."

Six percent of the respondents abstained saying "it is too premature to say yes or no as the issue is very crucial to decide," while saying the move to declare her a hero is a product of "emotional reaction to the outpouring of people's sympathy during her burial last Wednesday."

Meanwhile, the 41 per cent who favored "Cory" declared a national hero all cited to her role in restoring democracy.

"While there were other personalities behind the EDSA Revolution, it was only Mrs. Aquino who unselfishly accepted the calling to serve the nation as President," several callers justified in supporting the move elevating Mrs. Aquino as a national hero.

"Her bravery in fighting for democracy despite the loss of her husband" is a reason to declare her a national hero, a respondent said.

Supporters of Mrs. Aquino said that the spontanoues outpouring of people's sympathy during her burial last Wednesday is a manifestation that Filipinos "recognized her legacy and advocacy to fight for demoracy, thus, she is qualified to become a national hero."

"Mrs. Aquino perpetuates honesty, simplicity and bravery, thus I favor her declared our national hero," another respondent commented.

On a second question on who would be the right person to pursue the late Pres. Cory Aquino's advocacy for democracy, Senator Benigno "Noynoy" Aquino III came as a public favorite even far more than his popular showbiz sister, Kris.

"Radyo Merkado" is a popular DYRD weekly radio program that generates the pulse of the people on burning issues of the day aired every Saturday, 7:45 to 10:00am anchored by broadcasters Chito Visarra, Bong Bullecer and Jerry Pabe.

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Re: Should Cory Aquino Be Declared National Hero?
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2009, 06:43:15 PM »
PARA sa akin,malaking naitolong si corry sa people power..kahit naman wala pa si RAMOS AT ENRILE,,YONG DALAWANG YON BALIMBING YON,,TUTA YON NI MARCOS,,PAREHO,,,MGA GAGO YON,,,MALAKING NAKUHA NILA SA KABAN NANG BAYAN SA PANAHON NI MARCOS..BUMALIKTAD LANG YAN  KASI SI MARCOS WALA NANG POWR,,E KON MERON PA HINDI YON BABALIKTAD,,,KAYA SI CORRY LANG MY EFFORT NON,,,,WALA NANG IBA,,DAPAT ,,BAYANI DIN SYA,,,,,

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Re: Should Cory Aquino Be Declared National Hero?
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2009, 08:38:38 PM »
I agree with you chriswise...

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Re: Should Cory Aquino Be Declared National Hero?
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2009, 10:21:30 PM »
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Re: Should Cory Aquino Be Declared National Hero?
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2009, 11:31:18 PM »
it's ok to make her a hero. anyways, he lead the famous EDSA revolution that toppled the marcos regime.

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Re: Should Cory Aquino Be Declared National Hero?
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2009, 11:55:09 AM »
        San man sulok ng Mundo iba talaga ang karisma ng dating pangulo na si Former PRESIDENT CORY AQUINO. Iba sya sa mga naging pangulo ng ating bansa, isa syang TUNAY NA BAYANI.
        Isa ako ang naging saksi sa Paglibing ni Pres. Cory A. Daan daan libong tao ang nakiramay at nagluksa sa pagpanaw nya sa ating BANSA. 10:30 am po akong nag abang sa may Southsuper Highway ng FORT BONIFACIO, Taguig. Nasilayan at nakita ko sa daming tao ang sumalobong at nakilibing sa kanya sa huling hantungan 5pm past kuna nakita at dumating sa lugar na Kina tatayuan ko. emagen 7 hours akong nag hintay para makita ko lang sya.
         1st time ko po naka saksi ganun pangyayari.....sana naman po tUlaran po sya ng mga POLITIKO ng ating bansa na, minahal ng TAONG BAYAN.
          ISA SYANG TUNAY NA BAYANI........MABUHAY PO MADAM PRESIDENT CORAZON AQUINO, im very proud of YOU!

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Re: Should Cory Aquino Be Declared National Hero?
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2009, 12:01:41 PM »
Im not so sure but if she will be hailed as a Hero I'll vote  for it...

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Re: Should Cory Aquino Be Declared National Hero?
« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2009, 02:57:13 PM »
Sometime towards 1980, the President of World Bank reported that the Philippines could not anymore pay its debt.  This prompted the US to heed the calls to replace its favorite ally, Marcos.  So the arrangements were made.  Would one really believe Marcos was moved out and Cory was placed in Malacanang without the nod of the US?  Who plucked Marcos out of Malacanang that fateful day of  February 1986? (Give the correct answer here.)  When finally Cory was made President, she could have done the most important thing she could do to be a HERO to us.  It was only her who had the opportunity not to acknowledge the huge debt which Marcos accumulated during the Martial Law years.  We could have started with a new balance in our financial sheets and pushed our economy without the burden of the debt curse.  But how could she say no to the powers that put her in trust of Malacanang?  Cory bowed down to the pressure of the Brent Woods Institutions (the World Bank and the IMF).  She acknowledged the Marcos Loans and vowed to pay them.  Furthermore, she also agreed to at least two of their demands under the Structural Adjustment Program, so we had the devolution/decentralization of our government and the CARP.  So that the readers would know... CARP and the devolution were among the demands of World Bank under the Aquino administration in order for the Philippines to be granted a Loan... So, with weak government institutions, we were decentralized and our land capital divided.  Twenty years after the new constitution, look at how the Philippines economy fared in Asia.  Democracy?  Even if it was not Cory, the US could still put in someone to replace Marcos.  It was not because of Democracy, but because we should pay our debt to the rich Americans thru the World Bank/IMF.  Should Cory be a hero?  No, she is not a hero.

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Re: Should Cory Aquino Be Declared National Hero?
« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2009, 06:48:24 PM »
  Should Cory be a hero?  No, she is not a hero.

More about the effects of the Land Reform to National Productivity next time... if someone wants to exchange views...

Ok please give us your views why Cory should not be a hero.

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Re: Should Cory Aquino Be Declared National Hero?
« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2009, 09:49:20 PM »
 for me i vote for her as hero.siya ang walang takot magmartsa sa edsa na ang dala lang ay rosary.napatalsik si marcos na walang dugo na dumanak.

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Re: Should Cory Aquino Be Declared National Hero?
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2009, 11:33:45 PM »
for me i vote for her as hero.siya ang walang takot magmartsa sa edsa na ang dala lang ay rosary.napatalsik si marcos na walang dugo na dumanak.

Bilib jud ko sa imong tagalog Cat, kay di baja ko kasabut kaajo ug tagalog, eg dumanak.

taympa unsa man daw na beh? nagbaha? og nag lunop?

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Re: Should Cory Aquino Be Declared National Hero?
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2009, 11:36:36 PM »
as hero it's ok but for a saint? its too much already.

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Re: Should Cory Aquino Be Declared National Hero?
« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2009, 11:38:31 PM »
di sad ko ug saint oi! labihan ra sad...

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Re: Should Cory Aquino Be Declared National Hero?
« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2009, 04:22:33 AM »
naa diay nituboy niya pagka-Santos, sama ni San Dajong, San Tilmo ug San Pedro? kung santos sa iyang personal nga kabalaan, tingali naa siya anang kalidara.

sa pagka-Hero, sama ni Ninoy nga iyang bana, tingali. pero, daghan pang agian nga debate una pa siya mahimong Bayani sa nasud.

apan, sa mga kadaghanan natong mga pinoy, bayani naman sa Tita Cory, di ba?

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Re: Should Cory Aquino Be Declared National Hero?
« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2009, 09:47:49 AM »
my question is...why now? nganong wala man gihimong hero kadtong buhi pa siya..

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« Reply #15 on: August 13, 2009, 09:51:22 AM »
my question is...why now? nganong wala man gihimong hero kadtong buhi pa siya..

a lot of filipinos have already considered Tita Cory a hero, lolla, even when she was still alive. it was mainly because of here role during the People's Revolution. and even after that.

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Re: Should Cory Aquino Be Declared National Hero?
« Reply #16 on: August 13, 2009, 10:00:31 AM »
Based on Philippine Historical Commission, all presidents are considered
heroes except Marcos. HE fleed  to the USA at the outbreak of the EDSA revolution.

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« Reply #17 on: August 13, 2009, 10:02:27 AM »
indeed most of the Filipinos (usa nko didto) considered her as a hero pero kanang i-declare siya officially as National Hero...nganong karon pa man buhaton...

sa tanang presidente sa pinas siya lang ang akong gi ila hehehehe

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« Reply #18 on: August 13, 2009, 10:29:50 AM »
i have no idea, lolla. but i have to share you this information that might help shed light on this matter.

In 1993-1995 the Philippine National Heroes Committee officially defined the criteria to qualify as a national hero:

“    Heroes are those who have a concept of nation and thereafter aspire and struggle for the nation’s freedom...

Heroes are those who define and contribute to a system or life of freedom and order for a nation...

Heroes are those who contribute to the quality of life and destiny of a nation.

A hero is part of the people’s expression...

A hero thinks of the future, especially the future generations.

The choice of a hero involves not only the recounting of an episode or events in history, but of the entire process that made this particular person a hero.
   

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« Reply #19 on: August 13, 2009, 10:52:29 AM »
Should Cory Aquino Be Declared National Hero?

Hero/Heroine ok ra ko!

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Re: Should Cory Aquino Be Declared National Hero?
« Reply #20 on: August 13, 2009, 11:04:38 AM »
I haven't read the guidelines yet on how one becomes a national hero so I can not answer for now if Former President Cory Aquino should be declared a national hero of the Philippines.  I'll get to it. But if we meant here national hero to replace Dr. Jose Rizal, maybe not. 

lizaquirog, unsa sa tanan, welcome to Tubag Bohol.  You may have solid evidences to prove you are correct but here's my take on the issues you raised. 

Your question: Would one really believe Marcos was moved out and Cory was placed in Malacanang without the nod of the US?  Who plucked Marcos out of Malacanang that fateful day of  February 1986? (Give the correct answer here.)

Cory Aquino, who was believed to be the real winner in that 1986 snap presidential election, was installed as president by the people power in Feb. 1986.  Yes, Marcos was "plucked", to borrow your word, out of Malacanang to protect him and his family's life as the people demonstrated that they had enough of the Marcos regime already.


Your statement:  When finally Cory was made President, she could have done the most important thing she could do to be a HERO to us.  It was only her who had the opportunity not to acknowledge the huge debt which Marcos accumulated during the Martial Law years.  We could have started with a new balance in our financial sheets and pushed our economy without the burden of the debt curse.

My take:  when Cory Aquino was finally installed as president of the Republic of the Philippines, I don't think she could just say she didn't want to acknowledge the huge debt Marcos accumulated during his presidency. He signed those documents as the head of the nation, the debts became the nation's debt and not Marcos' personal debt.  If it's possible for every new president not to accept the previous presidents' debts, then all presidents will have clean financial statements every time they become presidents. Isn't that another great motivation for politicians to run for president?  :) Okay, let's take, for example,  the case in the US.  Obama can not just say he would not inherit the bad economy from the Bush Administration so he can start a new and clean slate.  Sad to say, I think incoming presidents, or any leaders for that matter, inherit the good and the bad trails of their predecessors. 






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« Reply #21 on: August 13, 2009, 11:06:45 AM »
i have no idea, lolla. but i have to share you this information that might help shed light on this matter.

In 1993-1995 the Philippine National Heroes Committee officially defined the criteria to qualify as a national hero:

“    Heroes are those who have a concept of nation and thereafter aspire and struggle for the nation’s freedom...

Heroes are those who define and contribute to a system or life of freedom and order for a nation...

Heroes are those who contribute to the quality of life and destiny of a nation.

A hero is part of the people’s expression...

A hero thinks of the future, especially the future generations.

The choice of a hero involves not only the recounting of an episode or events in history, but of the entire process that made this particular person a hero.
   

Oi, naa naman diay ni imong definitions of how to qualify one to be considered a national hero.

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Re: Should Cory Aquino Be Declared National Hero?
« Reply #22 on: August 14, 2009, 05:40:19 AM »
lizaquirog65, I really agreed with you
 everything you said is true.

The media do not say everything that's true, besides
  without going too much, let me say this in
   summary; there's more invisible bosses behind
   the visible boss or head of every state or country,
   they have no choice but do whatever they are told to do.
 My answer is no.

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« Reply #23 on: August 15, 2009, 03:56:04 PM »
Yes, Cory Aquino is the hero of EDSA revolution.

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« Reply #24 on: August 15, 2009, 05:14:56 PM »
statesville, lizaquirog65, I strongly agree

My answer is: NO

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Re: Should Cory Aquino Be Declared National Hero?
« Reply #25 on: August 16, 2009, 12:45:49 AM »
Sometime towards 1980, the President of World Bank reported that the Philippines could not anymore pay its debt.  This prompted the US to heed the calls to replace its favorite ally, Marcos.  So the arrangements were made.  Would one really believe Marcos was moved out and Cory was placed in Malacanang without the nod of the US?  Who plucked Marcos out of Malacanang that fateful day of  February 1986? (Give the correct answer here.)  When finally Cory was made President, she could have done the most important thing she could do to be a HERO to us.  It was only her who had the opportunity not to acknowledge the huge debt which Marcos accumulated during the Martial Law years.  We could have started with a new balance in our financial sheets and pushed our economy without the burden of the debt curse.  But how could she say no to the powers that put her in trust of Malacanang?  Cory bowed down to the pressure of the Brent Woods Institutions (the World Bank and the IMF).  She acknowledged the Marcos Loans and vowed to pay them.  Furthermore, she also agreed to at least two of their demands under the Structural Adjustment Program, so we had the devolution/decentralization of our government and the CARP.  So that the readers would know... CARP and the devolution were among the demands of World Bank under the Aquino administration in order for the Philippines to be granted a Loan... So, with weak government institutions, we were decentralized and our land capital divided.  Twenty years after the new constitution, look at how the Philippines economy fared in Asia.  Democracy?  Even if it was not Cory, the US could still put in someone to replace Marcos.  It was not because of Democracy, but because we should pay our debt to the rich Americans thru the World Bank/IMF.  Should Cory be a hero?  No, she is not a hero.

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Agree 100%. my answer is NO

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Re: Should Cory Aquino Be Declared National Hero?
« Reply #26 on: August 16, 2009, 01:14:52 AM »
a lot of filipinos have already considered Tita Cory a hero, lolla, even when she was still alive. it was mainly because of here role during the People's Revolution. and even after that.

do agree

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Re: Should Cory Aquino Be Declared National Hero?
« Reply #27 on: August 16, 2009, 01:19:41 AM »
There should only be one national hero.

And his name is: Jose Potracio Rizal y Alonzo.

Whose writings and passions gave rise to Filipinoismo.

Whose death gave birth to a NATION.


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Only 1 National Hero.

RIZAL!

No one else.

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Re: Should Cory Aquino Be Declared National Hero?
« Reply #28 on: August 16, 2009, 01:22:58 AM »
I admire Aquino for her charisma, but do not consider her a national hero.

1. National Hero = Dr. Jose P. Rizal.




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Re: Should Cory Aquino Be Declared National Hero?
« Reply #29 on: August 16, 2009, 01:34:54 AM »
All presidents should always look to Rizal.

Ask themselves, "Are my actions a fulfillment of the dreams of Sr. Rizal? What would Dr. Rizal do in my case?"


You cannot even compare Aquino to Rizal.
Aquino was born into a political family. She is a peninsulare.
The family that she is part of, is the very subject of criticism that Rizal wrote about in his writings, the families that kept and oppressed the people.
Aquino's family owns land estates---promising to redistribute land, but that promise came to no avail.

No comparison.

She was put into the pulpit by people's power, not by democratic election.
Remember that.

Rizal, was the firs and only. He wrote and spoke when NO ONE dared to speak against Spain. Under penalty of death, he returned to Philippines.

And his death led to the birth of the Republic.

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Benigno Aquino is more comparable to Rizal.
Benigno Aquino and Rizal share that 'sacrificial' trait.


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Re: Should Cory Aquino Be Declared National Hero?
« Reply #30 on: August 16, 2009, 01:56:15 AM »
Corazon Aquino, God bless her heart, lived to a full and long age of 76. Bore children and lived to see grandchildren.

Men like Rizal, who is the HERO, lived a short life. He was executed by a firing squad, not surrounded by family and loved ones. A platoon of Spanish soldiers with their Spanish Mauzers aimed and shot him, piercing the body of Dr. Rizal with over 20 bullets, striking and breaking his spinal cord, rupturing his visceral pleuras, his lungs, heart, stomach etc. And bled to death. His life faded into non-existance while he heard the roars of "Viva'y Espana, Viva, Viva! Muerto a los tradores!" (Long Live Spain, Live, Live, Death to Traitors).

He experienced hate, shame, envy, and death! For his LOVE of his COUNTRY! Even before his COUNTRY EVEN EXISTED!

He was a man before his time. Undeniable.

He bore the true burden, he bore hatred by the peninsulares (political families that wanted him dead; they hated what he stood for; and the Spanish Colonial Government).

Rizal, in his profuse, stubborn moderate-toned speech would write in poems to express his distaste, his approval or disapproval.

Never involved in politics, but voiced concern through literature and intellectual discourse.

He is, in my eyes, THE National Hero of the Philippines.

The Father of the Republic.
Why even after his death, the KKK used his name to legitimize their actions.

So, there can be no comparison.
None.

ABSOLUTELY NO COMPARISON AT ALL.

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Re: Should Cory Aquino Be Declared National Hero?
« Reply #31 on: August 17, 2009, 07:33:06 AM »
Here's a text message I received yesterday... bag-ong motto daw floating around the country (Philippines): Mga Filipino politicians daw ay maka-Diyos, maka-Bayan, maka-Tao... maka-kalikasan at maka-KURAKOT!

"Batu-batu sa langit ang tamaan huwag magalit..."

So you know my take on this subject (pa hero/heroine-epek): NO to POLITICIANS!!!  ;D

Kung JOSE nuon mo boto jud ko... Jose Rizal...San Jose... Jose Roel Lungay, etc. Pwede gani himoong national anthem "Jose can you see?..." Hahaha

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« Reply #32 on: August 17, 2009, 07:55:56 AM »
Father, I cannot help but smile in approval and chuckle in confirmation of your message.
"No to Politicians"

The problem with politicians is that they let their own glory and achievements get to them. To their head. It is a syndrome that I like to call the "god syndrome."

When a man of power (a Sovereign Lord, Monarch, Emperor, President, Prime Minister, Judge etc) gets too powerful and too comfortable in his or her pulpit, he or she forgets the everday necessities of the masses, of the people whom he or she serves.
Let us analyze the actions of Monarchical figures such as Louis XVI of France, the last Absolute Monarch of the Capet-Dynasty of the French Empire. The man believed that his authority was divine-inspired and that it was his right to oppress the people and htat his hand was a fatherly hand. It was a concept quite parallel and akin to that of the concept of Filial Piety (Confucian-based) of Pax Sinica. The notion that everything was ordered and structured. As the Grass bows before the wind, so should the Emperor bow before the Will of God, and the ministers and government and civil servants bow before the Emperor, and the people bow before to the civil servants. This then transcends to the microscopic formula of the family: the mother bows before the father, and the children bow before the parents. etc etc.

Though there are similarities between Filial Piety and Absolute Monarchy, the latter was far more oppressive, that there was no outlet for the 'governed'.

This notion of 'god syndrome' comes to those who are in power. Man, in his deliberate pride of life, wishes to glorify himself through his accomplishments, its an innate fact. Let us analyze the pyramids of Egypt---it was constructed by Slaves under the Egyptian whip to produce monuments for the Glory of Pharaoh. Why did they do this? Because Pharaoh was God. Was he really? of course he was not, he was a man, but in their religion, he was God. Pharaoh and his kin glorified themselves through monuments, and through altar worship of their divine presence in the temples because they believed that they were divine. Why? Because they had power! Political power. Not only political, but to cement their lordship over society, they were not only political figures, but religious figures. As a result, ---> obeiscance and worship by the ruled masses.

The same can be seen even in the ideal republic; The Roman Empire.
Where Senators would vie for power to become Emperor.
And because the Emperors were so in love with their political regime, their political mailstrum, their laws, their edicts, their popularity, they therefore declared themselves divine. Can you believe it? lol!

So when they were dead, they were worshiped as gods, deities in their pagan religion.
Blasphemy!

Politicians will always be politicians. It is in their nature to glorify themselves. Does not matter what age, what epoch, it is within their nature as humans, and humans with political and economic power (even religious) to have such a mandate.

This is why, I will never consider any politician a hero.

Rizal, was not a politician. NEVER!
Rizal was a PHYSICIAN-SURGEON.
He was a DOCTOR. His profession bequethed that he save lives, not take lives.
He was also a prolific writer, an essayist, a poet, an architect, a man of GOD,
a romatic, a handsome man, and most of all----A MARTYR.

Untainted by the dirty of politics.
But his blood---which was spilled for this nation...bled and gave birth to a REPUBLIC.


RIZAL ES PRIMO!
The First and Only Hero of the Republic.



Yours In Christ,
A. Lorenzo Salvo Lucino
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Re: Should Cory Aquino Be Declared National Hero?
« Reply #33 on: August 17, 2009, 08:51:03 AM »
Yes. Dr. Jose Protacio mercado rizal y alonso deserves to be the country's foremost national hero because of his achievements. he knew that by writing the noli me tangere and the el filibuterismo thereby exposing the injustices committed by the civil and clerical officials would put his life and his family's life in danger. he did not retract his writings because he was thinking not only of the welfare of the present generations but also of the future generations. through his novels, bonifacio and the other katipuneros were inspired. rizal opened the minds of the people. at first, he resented the revolution for he was not a revolutionary man and he did not want bloodshed. all he wanted was a reformation which the government did not grant. he gave his name and even his life for his beloved homeland believing that through his death a new philippines would be born with the youth as its leaders.


Cory Aquino is one of our Philippine heroes but too far to be declared our national hero.

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Re: Should Cory Aquino Be Declared National Hero?
« Reply #35 on: August 19, 2009, 07:37:34 AM »
In 1993-1995 the Philippine National Heroes Committee officially defined the criteria to qualify as a national hero:

“    Heroes are those who have a concept of nation and thereafter aspire and struggle for the nation’s freedom...

Heroes are those who define and contribute to a system or life of freedom and order for a nation...

Heroes are those who contribute to the quality of life and destiny of a nation.

A hero is part of the people’s expression...

A hero thinks of the future, especially the future generations.

The choice of a hero involves not only the recounting of an episode or events in history, but of the entire process that made this particular person a hero.
   

do you think Cory fits these criteria?

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Re: Should Cory Aquino Be Declared National Hero?
« Reply #36 on: August 20, 2009, 11:18:41 AM »
this is a vey long debate i guess, the late president Cory is not Jose Rizal who established the Liga Filipina in 1892, Rizal never fought in arms struggle during the revolution only through pen nor Andres Bonifacio who founded the Katipunan of the same year to fight against the oppresive rule of spaniards, some heroics act Cory did to Philippines is by way of leading the bloodless revolt in EDSA which resulted the ouster of the dictator in 1986 also by showing an excellent example of good governance during in her term as a president and most notably as the non corrupt president ever, her contribution in restoring democracy in our is exemplenary and even U S Pres Obama says " former President of the Philippines Corazon Aquino played a crucial role in Philippines history, moving the country to democratic rule through her non-violent "People Power" movement over twenty years ago. Her courage, determination, and moral leadership are an inspiration to us all and exemplify the best in the Filipino nation.

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Re: Should Cory Aquino Be Declared National Hero?
« Reply #37 on: August 20, 2009, 12:48:28 PM »
Is it possible that Cory was being used as a pawn by those who wanted change, both in political circles as well as those who had been suffering long from the Marcos regime, including the long-protesting street  Parliamentarists and not to mention the brain behind all of it, the US? And Cory succumbed to the wishes of them all and was forced to walk a path she never wanted, nor dreamed of, in the first place? Was she ever ready for the position of Head of State that was thrusted on her lap? Did she had vision for the country before? I'm not saying she wasn't a good person. She was indeed a good mother figure for the country, yes... but, hmmm, personally... this is where it all ends! You have to tell me what she had done. I did hear about the mahjong sessions at Malacanang where she signed some of the important administrative matters (it's purely hearsay, of course). At least she bore KA who made GKB famous and enjoyed by many all over the globe. The bad, I couldn't take pictures of Hacienda Luisita in 2004 coz the guard told me it was a private property and I was actually on the outside looking inside, huh! They should have covered the whole place with "TRAPAL" aron di makita sa gawas. But then you can take pic of Malacanang where the President of a country lives ;D

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Re: Should Cory Aquino Be Declared National Hero?
« Reply #38 on: August 20, 2009, 12:53:51 PM »
Addendum: A little clarification. Or maybe I need one. I thought 1986 was People's Power? Then let it be... it was the people's power... not Ramos', not Enrile's, not Cory's, not Cardinal Sin's, not Honasan's, not any one's.

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Re: Should Cory Aquino Be Declared National Hero?
« Reply #39 on: August 20, 2009, 01:33:47 PM »
A National Hero is an individual who influences society and revolutionary response.

Rizal was a national hero because, his very writings solidified and made into substance the psyche of the people; his writings was the epitome of the population's feelings towards the abuses of the oligarchy, to which, ironically, Corazon Aquino, belonged to. As she is part of a powerful land owning political family, Peninsulares, to which Rizal, himself, focused most of his grievances against. The peninsulares and the Religious Episcopy that were abusing land and power.

Rizal initiated and incited the nationalistic movement; he and other writers such as Sr. Marcelo Del Pilar, and other Filipino intelligentsias in Spain formed the La Solidaridad, as a literary source to vent the Filipino view on the colonial government's way of ruling the islands. Rizal and Del Pilar made hedgeway by even addressing these matters to members of the Royal Spanish Cortes (Royal Parliamentary Body) ; in a move to explore the notion of granting all Filipinos Spanish citizenry and the Philippines to be made into an overseas Province as compared to an overseas Colony (as it was still regarded as, duirng the mid 19th century).

Rizal, through his works, fueled intellectual discourse amongst Filipino intelligentsias in Europe and in the Philippines, his writings shook the foundation of the Roman Catholic Episcopy in the Islands, his writings challenged the military colonial government into notions of liberalizing the islands and to put away with the fuedal-based oligarchic system that was set in placed by the Conquistadores some 2-3 centuries prior.

Rizal, in his brilliant foresight, tried to initiate peaceful and gradual assimilation into province-hood. Never so much to sponsor militant revolution.

But you see, as idealistic as Rizal was, as pure and incorrupt as his notions were, his writings and his ideas were twisted and used to legitimize actions made by the KKK. The KKK was more of a militant wing of the revolutionary phenomenon within that Philippine Revolution.

There were 3 forces within the Revolution:
1. The Loyalists; namely composed of the church, the peninsulares/oligarchic land owners, powerful political families, and the Spanish Creoles
2. The Filipino pro-assimilation. Filipinos that were intellectuals, that wanted the islands to be part of Spain Proper, as a province, not as a military bastion.
3. The Revolutionary Separatists.
     ===> and within the separatists were the militant wing and the intellectual wing.

Rizal , definately, influenced the movement.
His death, was the very straw that errupted the Filipino Revolution. His Death and execution signified the unilateral direction of the Revolution.

Had he lived and given amnesty, assimilation with Spain would have occurred, showing the Spanish Government's mercy and understanding of the situation, as afterall, Rizal was an educated polymath. He Spanish-Trained Physician-Surgeon, a writer, intellectual and activist.

He was beloved in Spain; and his death---to some of the revolutionary thinkers of the day (namely Filipino intelligentsias) represented the final betrayal of the Spain. Some believed that Spain should have rescued Rizal.

But in the end, Rizal's fate was left to the colonial government's hands.

And with his death---everything transpired after it.

Rizal was the Keystone in Filipino National History.

He was the one that coined the term "FILIPINOISMO"

or as he wrote in La Solidaridad, "Mi Patria Adorada Filipina" (My adored Filipino Nation).

With his pen, he unravelled half a millenia of Spanish regency.

Rizal. The ultimate example of "The Pen is mightier than the sword."

:)


Again, there can be no comparison between Corazon and Rizal.

Rizal INFLUENCED the revolution. He made the revolution. He was the revolution.

Corazon was but a small figure within the People's Power movement.


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Re: Should Cory Aquino Be Declared National Hero?
« Reply #40 on: August 20, 2009, 01:43:07 PM »
Might I remind all of you that People's Power movement is not a democratic process, it s a mass protest. And constant People's Power will only destabilize a nation.

It destroys all confidence on a government; and with that, hampers the society to which that government presides over.

Aquino was never trained in politics. She is not a politician.

She was a woman, a wife of a politician, who was murdered, and after his death, the woman--Aquino, was placed on the pedestal by the mourning supporters/ Anti-Marcos Forces.

She was picked not because she had political experience or the drive, but because she was related to a man whom the protesters used as the legitimizing factor for the populatory coup de tat (though via protest).

A nation needs trained leaders, taught and trained in the arts of politics, law, jurisprudence, and theories of political science.

And in the end, this was the very manifesting factor that led to the multiple coups that occured in C. Aquino's 1 term presidency. This was the very reason why she didn't seek 2nd term, as she was not an effective president; and her policies came to no avail. The country, on the contrary, went in a paralytic spiral in her term and in preceding presidencies.

The Philippines has become quite robust only during the Administration of GMA.
No othe presidents prior to GMA (all post-Marcosian) can even compare to the success she has made and the leaps the country has attained under her administration.
Economic, political, and internationally. We have made hedgeway.
Not bad for a Republic that has reclaimed democratic process only 23 years after Marcotian Administration's demise.



A hero? No.

A historical figure, of course.



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Re: Should Cory Aquino Be Declared National Hero?
« Reply #41 on: August 24, 2009, 09:40:55 AM »
Ok please give us your views why Cory should not be a hero.

Panero,
Cory could probably be what we rightfully say as damn lucky for being in the right place at the right time.

As to the fact that she was hailed as the icon of democracy, it could have also been Doy Laurel, Fidel Ramos, Cardinal Sin or plain Juan de la Cruz who could have taken her place.   

Icon or not, heroine or not, its not hers, it should be the million Filipinos who know damn well they did one hell of a job not thousands of Cory Aquinos could do.

Enough of declaring heroes, heroines, or national artiists, because by the mere thought  of it, even my kids astound me when one said, when Noynoy Aguino dies, will there be another holiday?

Id look forward to the time when Kris would have her turn too.

That, am damn near sure would be worth my dying for. 



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Re: Should Cory Aquino Be Declared National Hero?
« Reply #42 on: August 24, 2009, 10:28:47 PM »
going to be a "national hero" may be elevating her too much

hero, perhaps, many would agree

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« Reply #43 on: August 26, 2009, 08:53:02 PM »
Yes. Dr. Jose Protacio mercado rizal y alonso deserves to be the country's foremost national hero because of his achievements. he knew that by writing the noli me tangere and the el filibuterismo thereby exposing the injustices committed by the civil and clerical officials would put his life and his family's life in danger. he did not retract his writings because he was thinking not only of the welfare of the present generations but also of the future generations. through his novels, bonifacio and the other katipuneros were inspired. rizal opened the minds of the people. at first, he resented the revolution for he was not a revolutionary man and he did not want bloodshed. all he wanted was a reformation which the government did not grant. he gave his name and even his life for his beloved homeland believing that through his death a new philippines would be born with the youth as its leaders.


Cory Aquino is one of our Philippine heroes but too far to be declared our national hero.

Mr. fdaray, who really deserves to be called as our national hero " is it Jose Rizal who just fought against the oppressor thru pen or is it Andres Bonifacio who organized the revolutionary movement and lead the arm struggle against the Spaniards. I salute on what what Rizal has done but i give my admiration to Gat Andres.

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Re: Should Cory Aquino Be Declared National Hero?
« Reply #44 on: August 27, 2009, 04:07:37 AM »
Jose Rizal was even saluted and recognized by the Indian National Hero, Mahatmas Gandhi.

The intellectual movement initiated by Dr. Jose P. Rizal was astute; he was way ahead of his time!

A living and great polymath.

A Physician-Surgeon, Political Scientist, Philosopher, Artist, Poet, Essayist, Lover, Son, Brother, Christian, Martyr.

He was utterly selfless. He gave up everything, all prospects of a life as a physician, his youth, his admirers in Spain, to a certain death in the Philippines.

Not many men in our time or in any time epochs can emulate that.
Ninoy Aquino returned to Philippines, but he risked his life for the small chance of being elected as President. And an attempt to uproot the Marcos Administration.

Rizal, on the other hand, had no such endeavors.
His was a life of idealism and political equality.
The fact that Rizal knew that his influence would be best made known through writings, in the present generation and in latter generations is what makes him a National Hero.
Giving up his life, to him, was a pleasure.

As a nation and as a people we owe it to Rizal, who was our sacrificial lamb.
His death awakened the Filipino National Movement.
With his death, led to the birth of a Nation.

His death was necessary.

That is why I consider Rizal as a Christ-like figure.

God Bless Jose P. Rizal.
The FATHER of the Republic.

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Re: Should Cory Aquino Be Declared National Hero?
« Reply #45 on: August 27, 2009, 11:12:55 PM »
Bad thing in Spain nobody knows Rizal or his writtings or his demandings to the kingdom while he was in Spain.

Is not funny that the way to rule Spain that he was claiming in those times and that was quickly denied is how Spain is ruled nowdays? :)

In that time when only a few people ruled Spain "by birth" and the rest were just people without voice, any proposal attempting to share power was hardly rejected.

So yes, maybe he was ahead of his time :)

Regards fom Spain

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Re: Should Cory Aquino Be Declared National Hero?
« Reply #46 on: August 28, 2009, 12:38:49 AM »
i believe, Cory, herself wouldn't want this honor to be given to her. what yah think?

if there's one thing that she would want us to do in her honor is to be united, to believe in our Nation and people, be patriotic. To show the world that A Filipino Is Worth Dying For, indeed.







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« Reply #47 on: August 28, 2009, 02:53:12 PM »
Bad thing in Spain nobody knows Rizal or his writtings or his demandings to the kingdom while he was in Spain.

Is not funny that the way to rule Spain that he was claiming in those times and that was quickly denied is how Spain is ruled nowdays? :)

In that time when only a few people ruled Spain "by birth" and the rest were just people without voice, any proposal attempting to share power was hardly rejected.

So yes, maybe he was ahead of his time :)

Regards fom Spain

He, indeed, was ahead of his time.

This great Malayan that changed not only the fate of The Philippines, but even awakened the Kingdom of Spain to reform.

Viva Filipinas y Espana!

Viva Sr. Dr. Rizal!

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« Reply #49 on: August 28, 2009, 10:39:39 PM »
Bad thing in Spain nobody knows Rizal or his writtings or his demandings to the kingdom while he was in Spain.


Not totally true. I believe Rizal has been recognized in Spain, even a town in Germany does, although people nowadays are indifferent toward heroes or history in general. Of course, we don't talk much about them anymore after all these years but that doesn't mean they never knew him. Maybe it's us who don't know much what people in that particular place/country know or what their history book has been saying all along. Maybe we need to read more or do some more research... but that's out of the question. A little more immersion maybe....

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« Reply #50 on: August 28, 2009, 11:47:36 PM »
Not totally true. I believe Rizal has been recognized in Spain, even a town in Germany does, although people nowadays are indifferent toward heroes or history in general. Of course, we don't talk much about them anymore after all these years but that doesn't mean they never knew him. Maybe it's us who don't know much what people in that particular place/country know or what their history book has been saying all along. Maybe we need to read more or do some more research... but that's out of the question. A little more immersion maybe....

Don´t get me wrong.

Sorry if I did not explain properly.

Here, there are as Lorenzo showed a monument close to the subway station called "Islas Filipinas" in Madrid, but if you ask who is Rizal nobody knows him. I am speaking of normal people as you and me walking around Madrid if you ask almost nobody know him apart for the ones that have ties in Philippines.

Of course Philippines and Rizal is tied forever to the history of Spain and all that happened changed in the long run the model of Spain but as you said each place study different ways of the history.

Sorry if I get you think other way.

Regards from Madrid :)

PD: Would you beleive me if I tell you some people in Spain doesn´t know that Philippines,Guam or Taiwan(La formosa) were colonies of Spain? :P

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« Reply #51 on: August 29, 2009, 12:05:04 AM »
Don´t get me wrong.

Sorry if I did not explain properly.

Here, there are as Lorenzo showed a monument close to the subway station called "Islas Filipinas" in Madrid, but if you ask who is Rizal nobody knows him. I am speaking of normal people as you and me walking around Madrid if you ask almost nobody know him apart for the ones that have ties in Philippines.

Of course Philippines and Rizal is tied forever to the history of Spain and all that happened changed in the long run the model of Spain but as you said each place study different ways of the history.

Sorry if I get you think other way.

Regards from Madrid :)

PD: Would you beleive me if I tell you some people in Spain doesn´t know that Philippines,Guam or Taiwan(La formosa) were colonies of Spain? :P

if there are people in my previous work who even didn't know that Philippines has MacDonald stores,  I am not surprised if some souls have no knowledge about Rizal and the Philippines or other stuffs from eons ago.



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« Reply #52 on: August 29, 2009, 12:32:25 AM »
if there are people in my previous work who even didn't know that Philippines has MacDonald stores,  I am not surprised if some souls have no knowledge about Rizal and the Philippines or other stuffs from eons ago.



Funny cause in my work a filipino friend and me were in a coffee shop and a girl from work came and saw we were smoking Marlboro.

She said "Hey Jaime do you have this in Philippines? And he looked to me as "is this girl stupid or what?"
His answer was "Yes we have Marlboro, we have mac Donnalds and we do not live in trees":P

But well  some americans asked me if there are roads in Spain or if I went to the school in donkey lol so I think ignorance is global hahaha.

Regards from Spain.

PD: AND would you beleive that people in Spain and Europe almost All think that San Miguel origin is spanish and not filipino? LOL I love the faces of the people in Spain when they order  San Miguel and I say "oh philippines beer" hahahaha

Of course the spanish branch is not pinoy any more but the origin is not spanish :P

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« Reply #53 on: August 29, 2009, 03:43:29 AM »
Mao-mao ra ta tanan kalooy sa Ginoo. Hasta mga barkada nako uban, kadtong wala pa ka bwayhe, ma sorpresa kung moingon ko gatauwa ko karon o ga kilaw. Ila pod pagtoo nga way petsay, bugas, ginamos  or uban pa, sama sa ato, sa laing dapit esp. sa west hahaha.

Mao sad cguro sa laing bahin, galalis cguro pod sila sa ilang TB (Tubag Budapest o Tubag Bahrain ) kung angayan ba himoong national hero si so and so and kung nailhan ba sa laing dapit ilang national hero, bwahaha!

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« Reply #54 on: August 29, 2009, 04:06:13 AM »
Mao-mao ra ta tanan kalooy sa Ginoo. Hasta mga barkada nako uban, kadtong wala pa ka bwayhe, ma sorpresa kung moingon ko gatauwa ko karon o ga kilaw. Ila pod pagtoo nga way petsay, bugas, ginamos  or uban pa, sama sa ato, sa laing dapit esp. sa west hahaha.

Mao sad cguro sa laing bahin, galalis cguro pod sila sa ilang TB (Tubag Budapest o Tubag Bahrain ) kung angayan ba himoong national hero si so and so and kung nailhan ba sa laing dapit ilang national hero, bwahaha!

wa sila kabalo, pads, nga kadtong mga wa mailhi sa katilingban, mga ordinaryo lang, ang aduna poy katungod mga pagatawgong BAYANI.

usa na niini si IKAW...lol

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« Reply #55 on: August 29, 2009, 09:03:30 AM »
Keko, it is the the sad reality of history. Only the ones that are well versed in history will know these historical figures, Rizal for example.

Spaniards are not the only ones; there are even Americans that do not even know the Louisianna Purchase , or the complete list of American Presidents.

In defense to Chicogon, though, I have worked closely with Spanish professors in Mexico as well as in Spain in my research and publication on Filipino National Evolution, which was part of my History Major Dissertation.

Jose Rizal is quite well known in Spanish higher education. The professors, the history students, the political scientists etc know him, but the average everday Spaniards that have no backing or understanding in colonial history will not known him.

I think it is important to expound on their importance, for individuals like these were pivotal in national consciousness.

Rizal's popularity in Spain began in the late 1880s when he published works in La Solidaridad, even making passionate followers of his works. Rizal was so well known in the intellectual community in his day that he had followers and readers from Brussels, Netherlands, Germany (Heidelburg), France, Britain, Portugal and of course in Spain.

It was only after Rizal's death and after the loss of the Philippines to the United States that Spain really did awaken. The defeat of the Spanish Empire to the United States in the Spanish-American War in 1898 was the motivating factor that led to the political awakening in Spain, the development of a parliamentary democracy and a move from the aristocratc parliamentary form that was set in place by Bourbon Kings.

I believe it was His Majesty King Alfonso XIII that said after Madrid defeat to America, "Dios Mio..el imperio español ha terminado. ha terminado."
(My God, the Spanish Empire is dead. It is over)

It was only after Spain's defeat that it followed the course of governmental remodeling. Since the loss of Her American colonies in the early 19th century, Spain was in a spiral downward and was incapable of preventing further revolutions in its last remaining colonies in Cuba, Puerto Rico, y Las Filipinas because Spain's communication channel was weak. That and the reign of the previous king, His Majesty King Alfonso XII was quite the conservative King. By the time the progressive King Alfonso XIII took the throne, it was already too late. Revolution in Cuba erupted, and even the Loyal Philippines rose up in dissension. The Philippines' eruption into revolution signaled the end for Spain's once mighty Global Empire.


History. Things happen for a reason. For a greater good. :)

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« Reply #56 on: August 29, 2009, 11:46:23 PM »
Keko, it is the the sad reality of history. Only the ones that are well versed in history will know these historical figures, Rizal for example.

Spaniards are not the only ones; there are even Americans that do not even know the Louisianna Purchase , or the complete list of American Presidents.

In defense to Chicogon, though, I have worked closely with Spanish professors in Mexico as well as in Spain in my research and publication on Filipino National Evolution, which was part of my History Major Dissertation.

Jose Rizal is quite well known in Spanish higher education. The professors, the history students, the political scientists etc know him, but the average everday Spaniards that have no backing or understanding in colonial history will not known him.

I think it is important to expound on their importance, for individuals like these were pivotal in national consciousness.

Rizal's popularity in Spain began in the late 1880s when he published works in La Solidaridad, even making passionate followers of his works. Rizal was so well known in the intellectual community in his day that he had followers and readers from Brussels, Netherlands, Germany (Heidelburg), France, Britain, Portugal and of course in Spain.

It was only after Rizal's death and after the loss of the Philippines to the United States that Spain really did awaken. The defeat of the Spanish Empire to the United States in the Spanish-American War in 1898 was the motivating factor that led to the political awakening in Spain, the development of a parliamentary democracy and a move from the aristocratc parliamentary form that was set in place by Bourbon Kings.

I believe it was His Majesty King Alfonso XIII that said after Madrid defeat to America, "Dios Mio..el imperio español ha terminado. ha terminado."
(My God, the Spanish Empire is dead. It is over)

It was only after Spain's defeat that it followed the course of governmental remodeling. Since the loss of Her American colonies in the early 19th century, Spain was in a spiral downward and was incapable of preventing further revolutions in its last remaining colonies in Cuba, Puerto Rico, y Las Filipinas because Spain's communication channel was weak. That and the reign of the previous king, His Majesty King Alfonso XII was quite the conservative King. By the time the progressive King Alfonso XIII took the throne, it was already too late. Revolution in Cuba erupted, and even the Loyal Philippines rose up in dissension. The Philippines' eruption into revolution signaled the end for Spain's once mighty Global Empire.


History. Things happen for a reason. For a greater good. :)

I am impressed you know a lot about the history of Spain.
when the dictatorship Francisco Franco dead in 1975 was when the model that Rizal thought was applied.

As well was the year when Spain left the rest of colonies that still had to join in the future in the EU.

Regards

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« Reply #57 on: August 30, 2009, 12:09:32 AM »
As they said "education is of utmost importance," no matter what your lot in life, nakahuman ba kag korso o wa. And I do believe, too, in the slogan, "Reading is what makes a nation great." But my cuzin would like to add to that, too, "Retention of what you read makes it even better hahaha." Kay mag-unsa man pod kung daghan kang nabasa unya paluston lang pod sa pikas dunggan. Ako blema nuon is hingkalimtanon na jud nuon ko, kining nagka edaran ta ug daghan napong gibating di masabtan hahaha. So what I do is constant "repitition" syarog di ka motarok sa panumduman!!! Mao bitaw nang uban anad kaajo mokanta kay way undang balik2x kanta hangtod ma second nature na ang gi kanta o gibasa.

Suggestion, maghimo tag gamay'ng "library" sa atong kalibangan coz it's one of the best place and time to read... pwede pa managhoy!

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« Reply #58 on: August 30, 2009, 01:35:13 AM »
I am impressed you know a lot about the history of Spain.
when the dictatorship Francisco Franco dead in 1975 was when the model that Rizal thought was applied.

As well was the year when Spain left the rest of colonies that still had to join in the future in the EU.

Regards

Thank you Keko.

I grew ever so interested in Spanish History, its struggle with the muslim Moors, its repudiation of paganism, and its establishment as a Christian nation. Spain, definately, is credited in spreading the Christian faith to countless millions around the world.

Through Spain, Christianity was rooted in the Americas.

Through Spain, the birth of a new world occured. There are over 600 million Latin Americans that are a direct result of Spain/Portuguese amalgamation. And the eventual struggle of these peoples for self governance only adds to the beauty and flavor of human integration.

Spain's imperial initiative was an example of 'Globalization' in the 16th century.

My interest is in Classical Imperial Spanish History.
I'm fairly versed in the history of Nuevo Espana because the Philippines was part of Neuvo Espana for a substantial part of our colonial history. In terms of governance and in relations to the Royal Audencia and religious episcopy.

Spain today has alot to learn from its colonies. Because as you seen, Spanish history is not only a benefit for Spaniards. no!

Spanish History is a culture that we all share, we brothers and sisters of the Latin League. Filipinos, Mexicans, Argentinians, Bolivians, Colombians, Venezuelans, Cubanos, Puerto Ricans, Guamanians, etc etc. For we all were once part of the Spanish Empire. It is our history. Ours to learn, ours to tap on, ours to never forget.

God Bless! Viva Filipinas! Viva Espana!

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« Reply #59 on: August 30, 2009, 01:43:01 AM »
Now in the spirit of Rizal.

Who, throughout his life, never once cursed Spain or condemned Spain, but was critical of the practices of the established political authorities in the Philippines (namely the peninsulares and the church officials).

I think it is beautiful how history has cleared the name of Rizal.

I cry sometimes knowing that the great Rizal wrote his last written piece, "Mi Ultimo Adios" in Spanish. He didnt' write it in his native Tagalog, but in Spanish, the language of those who were going to execute him.

In the end, he maintained his calm and spirited demeanor. And I cry sometimes knowing that the great Rizal is now even remembered and honored in Spain. The land that exposed him to the European Enlightenment.

That in the end, he is counted by Spaniards as "Hijo de Espana". (Son of Spain).

I believe, if Rizal were alive today, he would have smiled at that.
And the progress the Filipinos have had since the late 19th century. In the world that he lived. The society at the time.


Long Live the name of Jose Potracio Rizal y Alonso!
Forever will he be the Father of the Philippine Republic!
And a Blessing to Spain!

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« Reply #60 on: August 31, 2009, 10:19:54 AM »
Don´t get me wrong.

Sorry if I did not explain properly.

Here, there are as Lorenzo showed a monument close to the subway station called "Islas Filipinas" in Madrid, but if you ask who is Rizal nobody knows him. I am speaking of normal people as you and me walking around Madrid if you ask almost nobody know him apart for the ones that have ties in Philippines.

Of course Philippines and Rizal is tied forever to the history of Spain and all that happened changed in the long run the model of Spain but as you said each place study different ways of the history.

Sorry if I get you think other way.

Regards from Madrid :)

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Keko,
Good points, good points. You are right that not many know that present day Taiwan was once known as La Formosa, a Spanish territory.

Formosa was administered by the colonial government in Manila. :)

Las Filipinas included not only present day Philippines, but what is now northern Borneo, Palau, Marianas, Guam, present day Taiwan.

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« Reply #61 on: August 31, 2009, 10:24:59 AM »
Let me also add:

The reason why the Spaniards colonized the Philippines was to use it as a staging ground for an invasion and conquest of Cathay (China).

The Spaniards christianized the Philippines, and developed Hispanic agrarian models in the islands as a way to cultivate the population and to improve on colonial techniques. The Spaniards succeeded, on the most part. However, the Spaniards abandoned their original plan in invading China after it was made obvious that Spain's overseas empire was already too large.

Philip II, the man who the Philippines is named after, made a conservative policy after Spain's disasterous defeat to the English in the late 16th century, after the Great Spanish Armada was defeated off the English Channel.

The loss of so many Spanish Galleons, clearly, was one of the reasons why Spain abandoned any hopes of invading and conquering China and the Malaccas (Spice Islands of present day Indonesia/Malaysia).

FYI. hehe

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