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Palm Oil Plantations Bad for the Enviroment
« on: December 02, 2008, 03:11:45 PM »
BBC News Feature

A major international study says palm oil plantations reduce plant and animal diversity, and do little to reduce carbon emissions.

Researchers say tropical forests are increasingly cleared to make way for palm oil crops, leading to a reduction in habitats for many rare species.

The problem is most acute in Malaysia and Indonesia which produce around 85% of the world's palm oil.

The report is published in the journal Conservation Biology.

Palm oil is a common vegetable oil, and is now regarded as a major source of biodiesel, however the researchers question whether it really offers environmental benefits over conventional fossil fuels.

Clearing land to start plantations involves burning huge tracts of forest, a process which produces large amounts of greenhouse gasses such as carbon dioxide.

The researchers estimate at least 75 years of biofuel production is needed from the plantations, to save on emissions anything like the amount of carbon dioxide produced by this burning.

The lead author of the study is Finn Danielsen of Denmark's Nordic Agency for Development and Ecology.

"Our analysis found that it would take 75 to 93 years to see any benefits to the climate from biofuel plantations on converted tropical forestlands," he said.

Suitable sites

For the study, Emily Fitzherbert from the Zoological Society of London (ZSL), assessed the impact of palm oil plantations on animal and plant life in Indonesia.

"Anywhere suitable for oil palm plantations throughout the tropics is vulnerable," she said.

"There are loads of different figures and calculations out there on biofuels and the carbon balance, we say these figures are not precise, but the proportions are what's important, to represent the magnitude - oil palm as a biofuel is not a green option," she added.

The conversion of tropical forest to plantation also dramatically changed the balance of plants and animals living in the area, overall there was a reduction in plant and animal species says the report.

Some common species increased in number in and around the plantations, wild pigs and leopard cats became dominant, but rarer creatures such as the Sumatran tiger were not seen at all.

"For fauna, only one in six forest species can survive in plantations, the study finds. Plantations are frequently dominated by a few abundant species that are widespread and of low conservation concern," said Matthew Struebig of Queen Mary, University of London.

Payback time

As well as raising concerns about the loss of biodiversity in plantations, the researchers question the logic of destroying forests to produce biofuels for export to industrialised world markets.

"Subsidies to purchase tropical biofuels are given by countries in Europe and North America supposedly to reduce their greenhouse gas emissions from transport," said Finn Danielsen.

"While these countries strive to meet their obligations under one international agreement, the Kyoto Protocol, they encourage others to increase their emissions as well as breach their obligations under another agreement, the convention on biological diversity."

"This is not only an issue in South-East Asia - in Latin America forests are being cleared for soy production which is even less efficient at biofuel production compared to oil palm," added co-author Faizal Parish of the Global Environment Centre in Malaysia.

"Reducing deforestation is a much more effective way for countries to reduce climate change while also meeting their obligations to protect biodiversity."

On a positive note, the researchers found that grassed areas where forest had been destroyed in the past, the land farmed and then abandoned, did become a net absorber of carbon after 10 years of being planted with palm oil.

"Grasslands where you get the earliest payback are scrubby grasslands not natural or unique habitats - but areas that have clearly been trashed." said Emily Fitzherbert.

"Globally we don't want grasslands turned into palm oil plantations. Expansion is going to happen, saying no more palm oil is naive, expand where it will do the least damage and you may get a payback in terms of climate."

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« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2008, 03:23:17 PM »
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« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2008, 04:29:59 PM »
Of course monocroping is bad for the soil and the environment. As well as the biodiversity.

Some Malaysian companies are buying lands in Mindanao under the names of influential people, for this purpose. In fact it is already happening as I am writing this.

Not only the biodiversity is affected, but the indigenous people who are residing in that area will be displaced or relocated, just to be owned by few rich people.

This is unethical and should stop.

Moreover, if Cha-cha or Charter Change is ratified, these Malaysian businessmen will have legal rights to own the land. They can rock & roll without limits, seeping away our resources like pests. Our local/small-time business men will stand no chance against these international giants.

This is undermining/dishonoring the ideals and valor of our heroes who spill blood in ousting foreign dominance.

In these modern times the world is at war, not on bullets, but on economy.

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« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2008, 11:48:08 PM »
may i suggest that someone make a hard copy of this article and show it to argeo melisimo of FCB. sila ang nagpasimuno sa mga oil palm plantations sa bohol. we have been telling those people of the negative effects of oil palm farming to the environment thru the bohol environment management office (BEMO) of the provincial government of bohol as early as 2000 pero mga gahi gyud. they even got provincial government officials to their side to campaign for its promotion among farmers.

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« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2008, 06:25:14 AM »
maayo pag mobalik tag pananom ug kalubihan kay dil pa madaot ang yuta. ang kalubihan mahimo nimo asilungan ug laing mga tanom sama sa kamote, balanghoy, mais ug mani.

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Re: Palm Oil Plantations Bad for the Enviroment
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2008, 12:25:16 AM »
mao gyud... and besides, the commercial and industrial uses of coconut oil and palm oil are basically the same. so there is absolutely no need for the philippines to start getting into oil palm production because its coconut industry is already well established. what is needed here is to enhance the coconut industry some more to maximize production of coconut-based products as well as maximize agricultural output of coconut plantations by intercropping with other high-yield products.

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« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2008, 01:07:40 AM »
ang lubi ra ba morag walay mausik. tanan magamit sugod sa gamot hangtod sa ubod ug tukog. ambot lang kaha kanang palm tree.

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« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2008, 02:19:23 AM »
sumala sa akong nahibal-an dili man pod ni maoy concern sa pag-introduced aning Palm Oil.

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« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2008, 10:49:55 PM »
unsa diay concern sa pag introduce sa oil palm production sa bohol, sumala sa imong nahibal-an?

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« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2008, 12:58:49 PM »
nga modasang ang mga ilaga; makahilo kono ang mga chemical nga gamiton (sa mga
baka, kanding, iro ug uban pa); mahimong lisud na katamnan ang mga yuta nga naa
nay palm oil tungod kay baga ug gahi ang dalid niini. wa ko kadungog og naay
gahisgot ani bahin sa effect sa reduction of carbon emission.

gawas pa, attractive kayo ang offer ngadot sa mga tag-iya og yuta kung sila mosugot
tamnan og palm oil tree ilang yuta. busa, sugot na lang ang mga tawo...sukad sa akong paglakaw, wa nako kabalo unsay gidangatan sa Palm Oil industry sa bohol...
any update?

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« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2008, 01:03:35 PM »
namunga na ang mga palm trees. when  i was somewhere in ubay/pilar areas last december 2007, na mi nahinagbuang truck naghakot ug bunga sa palm trees dad-un sa oil mill kuno to..

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« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2008, 11:33:23 PM »
glacier, tinuod nang imong nadunggan bahin sa negative effects sa oil palm towards the environment. it is, in fact, for those very reasons that some people including a USAID-funded environment project that i used to work with in bohol as well as officials of the bohol environment management office (BEMO) expressed their opposition to the promotion of oil palm production in bohol. this particular position of opposing to the proposed project was made in a session of the sangguniang panlalawigan in bohol in 2001 in which FBC chair richard uy and FCB president argeo melisimo also attended to convince provincial lawmakers that their proposed project had merit. i left bohol shortly after that but obviously our opposition was drowned out by the majority because the next time i heard, huge tracts of land in talibon and ubay area were being established as nurseries. if what calle is telling now is true - and i don't doubt what he saw - it means that the industry is alive and well in bohol. but it will be bad for the environment though.

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« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2008, 10:02:55 AM »
aw, buhi na ang palm oil sa bohol hinoon...wa ko nay balita for the last 5 years kung unsa nay gidangatan....

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« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2008, 10:14:04 AM »
tinuod jud na ako gisulti bolingitboy. usa ra pud to ka truck puno ug bunga sa palm. gawas sa ako mga kauban sa bus nga taga didto nga ako napangutan-an, kita pud ko sa mga palm trees nga naay bunga. ang mga bunga sa palm trees parehos sa karga sa truck..

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« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2008, 12:02:22 AM »
well, it looks like the oil plam industry in bohol is beginning to reap its initial harvest. I just hope that the government will take measures to ensure that prime agricultural land, such as rice land areas, are not converted to oil palm plantations. dapat, kun mamugos gyud sila ug tanum ug oil palm, it should be limited to either marginal areas or sloping areas that are not suitable for vegetable and/or root crop production.

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« Reply #15 on: December 10, 2008, 01:03:10 AM »
wa man tingali iapil ang mga rice lands. kadto hinoong mga baowan ug  upaw nga mga bukid ang ilang gitamnan...aduna poy mga kamaisan ug kabulanghuyan nga giapil...kung molabay ka's Alicia padong Carmen, makita nato ang boot nakong gipasabot nga mga palm oil "trees" puli sa mga pananuman nga kanhi tamnan og mais ug bolanghoy.

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« Reply #16 on: December 10, 2008, 01:44:34 AM »
First of all, what we are doing is serving the enemy.

Since the Galleon Trade centuries ago, we were the leading supplier of Copra and Rice in the whole world which peaked during the Marcos Regime. Philippine economy was once Envied by Southeast Asian countries, until Malaysia become an established Country. From that time, our copra was rivaled with Malaysian Palm Oil until one false report by the US FDA in the 80's pointing coconut oil as full of cholesterol and may cause cancer. This negative findings prompted US consumers to switch to Palm Oil which signaled the death of COCOFED.

I was in high school at that time and that news is still fresh in my mind. In my own opinion, this could be an economic sabotage.

The result is environmental degradation because former coconut plantations were cut-down and turned into coco-lumber or the land is turned into residential lands. Also Educational programs which were sponsored by COCOFED were stopped causing dumbing down or decline of our professionals since that time.

Now, the number one producers of coconut is India and we have nothing.

We deserve apology from US FDA for that negative publication. At present time, coconut oil is re-introduced as health food, but we are too late because India took over our place in the world market.

For Gods sake why are we doing this? We are not only defeated against this competitor, but we are now serving/promoting it.

What if we have all Palm Oil in our farms and suddenly the world demand will suddenly stop. There will be massive famine.

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« Reply #17 on: December 10, 2008, 04:19:27 AM »
i find it hard to believe that the US FDA would make a blooper of announcing wrong information about something as common as coconut oil. there is reason to believe therefore that it was done to sabotage its value in the market. the truth of the matter is that coconut does not contain cholesterol. however, it contains saturated fat which is, in fact, higher than the saturated fat you find in animal fat. but compared with palm oil, the fat content of both oils (coconut and palm) are about the same. but in terms of practical use, layo ra kaayo ang oil palm sa lubi. for one thing, in case of famine, you can always drink the coconut water (butong) and eat the coconut meat. you can't do that with oil palm berries or whatever you call those things that they harvest and process into oil.

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« Reply #18 on: December 11, 2008, 06:52:07 AM »
I appreciate your great concern to our environment Bolingitboy. Sa tinood, this is the only material thing that our kids, the future generation can inherit. If you love your children, give them the best air, water, food and sunshine.

Kini raba nga business climate is very volatile and unpredictable. Kung ugaling mag tanom ta karon ug cash crop nga Palm Oil, unya mo kalit ug undang ang demand sa world market, unsa na man atong kan-on nga mo abot man gyud ang panahon nga mapulihan na ug palm oil ang atong ka-basakan.

Dili pareha sa lubi nga kung mo abot ang gutom, puede nimo imnon ang butong, kan-on or gulayon ang unod and further, puede pa nimong i-toothpick ang lukay. Daghan gyud kaayong kagamitan ang lubi, mao na nga gi tawag sa ininsik ug Botay-takong-pawa.

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« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2008, 07:31:14 AM »
Ang bunot pwede sab pang ilo, diba?

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« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2008, 09:49:58 PM »
you're correct in your observation about the volatility of palm oil in the world market, macky. anytime the demand for this product can change dramatically in so short a time. what bohol must do is, since the palm oil industry is already beginning to roll, is to limit planting of oil palm in marginal areas and ensure that agricultural land particularly rice land is not converted to this cash. there is always need for rice and its production should be the main focus of agricultural initiatives in bohol. there is a growing demand for organic rice and bohol can certainly go into this. they can convert dagami and other by-products of rice into organic fertilizer and use it as input in rice lands, instead of burning them. this will bring down the cost of farming inputs and allow farmers to earn more. at the same time, people are provided with healthy rice :-)
layman, good suggestion for bunot to be used as toilet paper. we in bohol have lots of this material. those husks that don't end up being used as toilet paper can be used to manufacture coco coir and soil matting materials that are now being used for soil erosion control. we can use these materials ourselves or we can export them. the possibilities are limitless.

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« Reply #21 on: December 11, 2008, 10:21:28 PM »
Ang bunot pwede sab pang ilo, diba?

Hehehe Layman, maayo nang imong idea da.

Atong i-promote sa mga westerners ang "Organic Ilo" nga Bunot. Applyan lang nimo ug simple marketing strategy nga natural ingredients, with no harmful chemicals, for daily use, gentle exfoliating, hypoallergenic, safe for the environment. Butangan lang ug warning nga do not recycle. Hehehe. Unsa kaha ang brand name nga puede ani nga producto.

Naa pay mas short cut sa bunot nga ilo. Magpa slide sa palwa.

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« Reply #22 on: December 12, 2008, 07:38:50 AM »
Mao nay giingon Macks nga environment friendly. Certainly this is a biodegrable waste and could help improve greeing our lands because of the added soil nutrients from the rotten husks.

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« Reply #23 on: December 12, 2008, 08:48:16 AM »
you're correct in your observation about the volatility of palm oil in the world market, macky. anytime the demand for this product can change dramatically in so short a time. what bohol must do is, since the palm oil industry is already beginning to roll, is to limit planting of oil palm in marginal areas and ensure that agricultural land particularly rice land is not converted to this cash. there is always need for rice and its production should be the main focus of agricultural initiatives in bohol. there is a growing demand for organic rice and bohol can certainly go into this. they can convert dagami and other by-products of rice into organic fertilizer and use it as input in rice lands, instead of burning them. this will bring down the cost of farming inputs and allow farmers to earn more. at the same time, people are provided with healthy rice :-)
layman, good suggestion for bunot to be used as toilet paper. we in bohol have lots of this material. those husks that don't end up being used as toilet paper can be used to manufacture coco coir and soil matting materials that are now being used for soil erosion control. we can use these materials ourselves or we can export them. the possibilities are limitless.

i think there is an ngo-operated cooperative in mabini that exports coco coir and soil matting materials to china.. i tried to check it with a friend from mabini but wala sya kabalo. it was my mom who read it in the paper.

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« Reply #24 on: December 12, 2008, 10:48:46 PM »
calle: it's good if some people in bohol have started projects that revolve around the coconut industry in bohol. other towns that have vast areas of land that are planted to coconut should follow this example, if not, sell their waste coconut husk to this folks in mabini so that they can increase production - and income as well.

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« Reply #25 on: December 13, 2008, 05:44:03 AM »
Ang lubi mo produce ug ilimnon nga kahibolongan nga mao ang Tuba. Ang Palm, palm oil lang ang ma produce.

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