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Re: An Islamic Justice
« Reply #40 on: January 12, 2012, 05:43:50 PM »
Stop! Stop!

Excuse me, but is our website now being used to inflame religious hatred?

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Re: An Islamic Justice
« Reply #41 on: January 12, 2012, 05:54:13 PM »
for all your posts pointing out "muslim" terrorism, bear with me...

Looking for Answers In Islam's Holy Book Despite Contradictions,
Koran Favors Peace Over War, Scholars Say

By Bill Broadway
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, September 29, 2001; Page B09


Since the Sept. 11 attacks on the Pentagon and World Trade Center, apparently orchestrated by people who quote the Koran to justify terrorist acts, President Bush has joined religious leaders in urging Americans not to condemn all Muslims because of the actions of a few seeking to "hijack Islam."  Many people have responded by learning more about the world's second-largest religion -- visiting mosques, surfing the Internet and clearing bookstore shelves of copies of the Koran.  Understanding the Koran is essential for understanding Islam, because Muslims believe the scripture Prophet Muhammad received in the 7th century from the angel Gabriel to be the "true word of God."

But the Koran, like the Bible, presents problems of interpretation because of contradictory passages about vengeance, war and peace.  In one instance, the Koran advocates doing a good deed for an enemy instead of retaliating against him.  "We ordained therein for them: 'Life for life, eye for eye, nose for nose, ear for ear, tooth for tooth,and wounds equal for equal,' " says Surah (Chapter) 5.  "But if any one remits the retaliation by way of charity, it is an act of atonement for himself."

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Re: An Islamic Justice
« Reply #42 on: January 12, 2012, 06:25:30 PM »
Labing taasa basahon,,ning ingyong gi pang post labay2x ra ning akoa,,Sa akong pobring pang huna2x gikasubo gayod nako ang nahitabo sa kalibutan ron labi na sa mga dapit sa kamusliman,,Gigamit na nila ang religion sa Politics,,tataw kaayo na ang duha ka sanga sa muslim sunni og shia,,nag ilog karon kinsay mo dominar sa muslim,Klaro kaayo na gigamit ang religion pag aghat  sa mga tawo mo alsa..bahin sa kristiyanos karon masmaayo gayod na buwag ang simbahan og ang goberno kay mamansahan lang simbahan sa mga di maong tomong og toyo sa goberno na gi pa od sa sa simbahan....

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Re: An Islamic Justice
« Reply #43 on: January 13, 2012, 01:05:26 AM »
klaro ang imong paghagpat, chris.  (kumusta ang imong new year tuod?)  akong pagsabot nimo, ang relihiyon gigamit sa politikong tumong mao nga kun unsa may gubot nga mahitabo, di angay basulon ang relihiyon.  hinaot unta nga sakto ang akong pagsabot sa imong buot ipasabot.

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Re: An Islamic Justice
« Reply #44 on: January 13, 2012, 01:13:45 AM »
Looking for Answers In Islam's Holy Book, continued...


Just a few verses earlier is this harsh warning to infidels: "The punishment of those who wage war against God and His Apostle, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter."

In Deuteronomy, the fifth book of the Torah in the Hebrew Bible, Moses shares this fiery message from God as the Israelites prepare to enter the Promised Land: "I will make mine arrows drunk with blood, and my sword shall devour flesh; and that with the blood of the slain and of the captives, from the beginning of revenges upon the enemy."

In the Gospel of Matthew, Jesus amends an Old Testament call for vengeance with a pronouncement that might have been the source for the similar text in the Koran: "Ye have heard . . . An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth: But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on they right cheek, turn to him the other also."

Yet a few chapters later, Jesus makes a pronouncement that has perplexed Christians for centuries. "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth," Jesus tells his disciples. "I came not to send peace, but a sword." The words of the Koran, which is about the same length as the New Testament, are infallible -- but only in the original Arabic. Tradition holds that other languages cannot approach the Arabic in style and accuracy, so Muslims are required to read, recite and pray in Arabic.

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Re: An Islamic Justice
« Reply #45 on: January 13, 2012, 01:25:05 AM »
But some Arabic words present differing interpretations for Muslims and non-Muslims alike, said Barbara Stowasser, a Koranic scholar and director of the Center for Contemporary Arab Studies at Georgetown University.

The most controversial example is jihad, whose noun and verb forms appear more than 30 times in the 114 chapters, or surahs, in the Koran, Stowasser said.  In English translations, the word appears variously as "struggle," "strive" or "fight."

But in any language, mainstream Muslim scholars say, jihad refers primarily to the inner faith struggle of the believer, not to physical confrontation.  They often recite a statement attributed to Muhammad after he returned from battle: "We are returning from the lesser jihad to the greater jihad -- jihad against the self."

Osama bin Laden and other Muslim extremists "pick and choose" passages from the Koran to support a global jihad, or holy war, against the United States and other countries, Stowasser said, citing a passage from Surah 9 that is sometimes used by militant Muslims.

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Re: An Islamic Justice (and Persecution of Muslims in America)
« Reply #46 on: January 13, 2012, 01:44:10 AM »
The Danger of a Single Story: Persecution of Muslims in America

By Bryan Farris
October 7, 2010



In July 2009, Chimamanda Adichie, a renowned Nigerian author, spoke at TEDGlobal about the danger of a single story.  In her talk, Chimamanda discussed the single story that has been told about Africa throughout modern literature.  You know that story well; it is a story of poverty, corruption, inefficiency and beautiful animals.  Chimamanda pointed out, “The single story creates stereotypes and the problem with stereotypes is not that they are untrue, but that they are incomplete.  They make one story become the only story.”

Truer words could not be spoken; despite what you find in books, Africa is a wonderful multidimensional place.  When I first visited the continent, I realized that I held stereotypes which limited my expectations.  The tall buildings of Nairobi shocked me, as did the high quality shopping centers of Lusaka, Zambia.  As I found it, many Africans are poor, but many are wealthy as well.  Some Africans may be corrupt, but many are honest, hard workers.  As Chimamanda described, Africa is not what most literature would lead you to believe.  For every negative stereotype you hold, there are many unsaid positives. 

Describing herself, Chimamanda said, “all of these stories are part of who I am, but to insist on only these negative stories is to flatten my experience and to overlook the many other stories that formed me.”  I firmly believe that the same goes for Africa as a whole.

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Re: An Islamic Justice (and Persecution of Muslims in America)
« Reply #47 on: January 13, 2012, 01:48:08 AM »
However, this post is not about Africa; it’s about the story of Muslims in America.  As I watched Chimamanda Adichie’s talk recently, it struck me that the American media is telling a single story of Muslims, a terrible, ugly story.  We are persecuting peace-loving Muslims for wanting to open a mosque at Ground Zero.  While I understand that there is a great deal of pain and suffering associated with the location, it is important to keep in mind who actually caused that pain and that we live in a ‘free’ country.  We are applying stereotypes to all Muslims, just because the September 11th attacks happened to be carried out by very radical followers of Islam.  Muslims are not terrorists.  But, that is the single story we tell.

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Re: An Islamic Justice
« Reply #48 on: January 13, 2012, 01:58:39 AM »
In her talk, Chimamanda exclaimed, “The consequence of the single story is this: it robs people of dignity.  It makes our recognition of an equal humanity difficult; it emphasizes how we are different rather than how we are similar.”

Today, so many non-Muslim Americans don’t recognize how much all of us have in common, how we share the same values, dreams and even the same challenges.  Recently Nicholas Kristof wrote, “Many Americans honestly believe that Muslims are prone to violence, but humans are too complicated and diverse to lump into groups that we form invidious conclusions about.  We’ve mostly learned that about [African Americans], Jews and other groups that suffered historic discrimination, but it’s still O.K. to make sweeping statements about “Muslims” as an undifferentiated mass.”  Truly, we have become blinded by the stories we tell.

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Muslim Persecution of Christians: The Christmas Edition
« Reply #49 on: January 13, 2012, 02:00:45 AM »
Muslim Persecution of Christians: The Christmas Edition


 by Raymond Ibrahim, January 6, 2012


The Nigerian church bombings, wherein the Islamic group Boko Haram killed over 40 people celebrating Christmas mass, is just the most obvious example of anti-Christian sentiment in December.  Elsewhere around the Muslim world, Christmas time for Christians is a time of increased threats, harassment, and fear, which is not surprising, considering Muslim clerics maintain that “saying Merry Christmas is worse than fornication or killing someone.” A few examples:

• Egypt: The Coptic Church is being threatened with a repeat of “Nag Hammadi,” the area where drive-by Muslims shot to death six Christians as they exited church after celebrating Christmas mass in 2010. Due to fears of a repeat, the diocese has “cancel[ed] all festivities for New Year’s Eve and Christmas Eve.”

• Indonesia:  In a “brutal act” that has “strongly affected the Catholic community,” days before Christmas, “vandals decapitated the statue of the Virgin Mary in a small grotto … a cross was stolen and the aspersorium was badly damaged.”

• Iran: There were reports of a sharp increase of activities against Christians prior to Christmas by the State Security centers of the Islamic Republic. Local churches were “ordered to cancel Christmas and New Year’s celebrations as a show of their compliance and support” for “the two month-long mourning activities of the Shia’ Moslems.”

• Malaysia:  Parish priests and church youth leaders had to get “caroling” permits—requiring them to submit their full names and identity card numbers at police stations—simply to “visit their fellow church members and belt out ‘Joy to the World,’ [or] ‘Silent Night, Holy Night.’”

• Pakistan: “Intelligence reports warned of threats of terrorist attacks on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day,” adding that most church security is “inadequate.”  Christians also lamented that “extreme power outages have become routine during Christmas and Easter seasons.”

Meanwhile, if Christians under Islam are forced to live like dhimmis—non-Muslims under Muslim authority, treated as second-class citizens—in the West, voluntarily playing the dhimmi to appease Muslims during Christmas time is commonplace: the University of London held Christmas service featuring readings from the Quran (which condemns the incarnation, that is, Christmas); and “a posh Montreal suburb has decided to remove a nativity scene and menorah from town hall rather than acquiesce to demands from a Muslim group to erect Islamic religious symbols.”
Categorized by theme, the rest of December’s batch of Muslim persecution of Christians around the world includes (but is not limited to) the following accounts, listed according to theme and in country alphabetical order, not necessarily severity.

CHURCH ATTACKS
Ethiopia: A video of some 500 Muslims burning down a church on November 29 while crying “Allahu Akbar!” appeared.  The pretext for burning this church was that it had no “permit”—even though it was built on land owned by Christians for 60 years.


Indonesia: An “Islamic extremist” group is pushing hard to have five churches demolished, again, to claims that the churches have no permit. The congregation of another “embattled church” that Muslims are trying to shut down “was forced to move its Christmas prayers to a member’s house after Islamic groups assembled at the disputed site making threats.

Iran: While celebrating Christmas, a church was raided by State Security. All those present, including Sunday school children, were arrested and interrogated.  Hundreds of Christian books were seized.  The detained Christians suffered “considerable verbal abuses”; the whereabouts of others arrested, including the reverend and his wife, remain unknown. “Raids and detentions during the Christmas season are not uncommon in Iran, a Shi’a-majority country that is seen as one of the worst persecutors of religious minorities.”

Nigeria: Weeks before the Christmas Day church bombings, another jihadi attack, enabled by “local Muslims,” left five churches destroyed and several Christians killed: “The Muslims in this town were going round town pointing out church buildings and shops owned by Christians to members of Boko Haram, and they in turn bombed these churches and shops.”

Turkey: A large-scale al-Qaeda plot to bomb “all the churches in Ankara,” was exposed.  An official indictment against al-Qaeda members earlier arrested revealed the homegrown terrorist cell’s plans to attack Ankara’s churches and their Christian clergy.


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Re: An Islamic Justice
« Reply #50 on: January 13, 2012, 02:02:01 AM »
APOSTASY, BLASPHEMY, and PROSELYTISM


Algeria: In May, a Muslim convert to Christianity was sentenced to a five-year prison term on charges of “insulting Muhammad, the prophet of Islam, and with ‘proselytism’ for giving a Muslim a CD about Christianity.” Now the judge has decided “to indefinitely postpone” the man’s appeal, thus “show[ing how] the judicial system keeps Christians in limbo without officially punishing or acquitting them.”


Kashmir: The top Islamic clergyman launched a website against apostasy and the conversion of Muslims to Christianity.  The website works to “check the conversion of young [Muslim] boys and girls [to Christianity]”; its “fundamental goal” is to “thwart catastrophic [Christian] missionary activities.”


Iran: Pastor Yousef Nadarkhani, who caught the attention of the world after being imprisoned and awaiting execution for leaving Islam, may have to wait another year for a ruling on whether the sentence will be upheld, as authorities continue to delay, in the hopes that the world will forget.  Meanwhile, authorities continue “to pressure Nadarkhani to recant his faith,” giving him and ordering him to read “Islamic literature aimed at discrediting the Bible. The court reportedly has been told to use whatever means necessary to compel Nadarkhani to recant his faith.”  Another convert to Christianity recently told of his experiences: “When my family and friends learned of my decision, they didn’t accept it and rejected me as a result. They made me leave our family home. In addition, my friends treated me like my family had and began calling me an apostate and an infidel. In Iran, anyone who converts to Christianity faces various problems. In spite of the love I had for my family, I had to leave my home. Everyone rejected me.”

Malaysia:  Lamenting that “It could be hundreds, maybe even thousands” of Muslims converting to Christianity, a former state-commissioner has been “collecting data” to “persuade” the apostates to return to Islam: “We are helping them, hoping they will come back to Islam.” Likewise, the Sultan of Selangor, a Malaysian state, has ordered top-level Islamic organizations to take strategic steps against proselytism, “so that Muslims who have began distancing themselves from Islam will return to the fold and repent.”

Pakistan:  After a Muslim family discovered their son had converted to Christianity, not only did “his father put up a notice in local newspapers disowning him,” but his family “file[d] a police complaint against him because—as a murtad or apostate deserving death—he was said to have committed “blasphemy.” Likewise, after a rent-related quarrel, a Muslim landlord accused his Christian tenant of desecrating the Quran, which led to crowds of Muslims surrounding the Christian’s house, making threats and hurling anti-Christian slogans; “Muslim leaders made announcements from several mosques calling for severe punishment.” He was arrested and charged under Pakistan’s “blasphemy” laws, which make willful desecration of the Quran punishable with life imprisonment.


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Robert S. Wistrich: Threatening Shadows Over Egypt
« Reply #51 on: January 13, 2012, 02:05:06 AM »
Threatening Shadows Over Egypt
By Robert S. Wistrich


The Muslim Brotherhood did not initiate the current upheavals in the Middle East, but the Islamist parties in Egypt, as in Tunisia and Libya, have been the chief beneficiaries of the collapse of long-standing authoritarian repressive regimes across North Africa. In Egypt itself, the two largest Islamist groups (the Brotherhood and the Salafists) won about three quarters of the ballots in the second round of legislative elections held in December 2011, while the secular and the liberal forces took a battering. The Brotherhood (which garnered over 40% of the votes) is an organization founded by an Egyptian schoolteacher, Hassan el Banna, back in 1928. It has never deviated from its founder’s central axiom:

“Allah is our objective; the Prophet is our leader; the Koran is our law; Jihad is our way; dying in the way of Allah is our highest hope.”

It is this radical vision which animates all those in the region who seek a fully Islamic society and way of life.

The Muslim Brotherhood has always been deeply anti-Western, viscerally hostile to Israel and openly anti-Semitic – points usually downplayed in Western commentary on the “Arab Spring.” Indeed, the anti-Jewish conspiracy theories promoted by the Brotherhood and its affiliated preachers are in a class of their own. This is especially true of Egyptian-born Yusuf al-Qaradawi, undoubtedly the most celebrated Muslim Brotherhood cleric in the world. The still vigorous 84-year-old, often misleadingly depicted in the West as a “moderate,” flew in from Qatar to Cairo’s Tahrir Square on February 18, 2011 to lead a million-strong crowd in Friday prayers, thereby ending 50 years of exile from his native land. He called for pluralistic democracy in Egypt while at the same time offering the hope “that Almighty Allah will also please me with the conquest of the al-Aqsa Mosque [in Jerusalem].”

Two years earlier, in a notorious commentary on Al-Jazeera TV (January 28, 2009), the “moderate” Qaradawi had provided religious justification for both past and future Holocausts:

Throughout history, Allah has imposed upon the Jews people who would punish them for their corruption…The last punishment was carried out by [Adolf] Hitler. By means of all the things he did to them – even though they exaggerated this issue – he managed to put them in their place. This was divine punishment for them…Allah willing, the next time will be at the hands of the believers.
In other words, the loathing of Jews, the Holocaust and the destruction of Israel by Muslims were linked by Qaradawi as things mandated by God himself.

Regarding Israel and the Jews, fundamentalist Muslim attitudes have never deviated since the 1940s. Islamist ideologues, despite their virulent anti-Westernism, have had no problem in drawing on Western sources for their radical anti- Semitism – whether these libels come from Protocols of the Elders of Zion forgery, Henry Ford’s The International Jew, Hitler’s Mein Kampf, fantasies about Judeo-Masonic plots, or have their origin in Christian anti-Talmudism, medieval blood-libels and the slanders of contemporary or Holocaust deniers in America and Europe.

The current swelling of Islamist ranks within Egypt and across the Arab world has hardly improved matters. At a vocal Muslim Brotherhood rally in Cairo’s most prominent mosque on November 25, 2011, Islamic activists ominously chanted “Tel Aviv, judgment day has come,” vowing to “one day kill all Jews.” The rally, which sought to promote the “battle against Jerusalem’s judaization,” was peppered with hate-filled speeches about the “treacherous Jews.” There were explicit calls for Jihad and liberating all of Palestine as well as references to a well-known hadith concerning the future Muslim annihilation of the Jews. Dr. Ahmed al-Tayeb, the head of Egypt’s Al-Azhar University (the most senior clerical authority in Sunni Islam) even claimed that Jews throughout the world were seeking to prevent Egyptian and Islamic unity, as well as trying to “Judaize al-Quds [Jerusalem].”

This kind of incitement and the pressure from the Egyptian street does not mean that the fragile peace treaty with Israel will be cancelled overnight. But calls for such a step have been repeatedly heard in recent months even from the “liberal” and more “progressive” sectors of the political spectrum as well as from the Islamist parties.

Dr. Rashad Bayoumi, the deputy leader of the Muslim Brotherhood, bluntly told the Arabic daily al-Hayat on the first day of 2012 that his organization will never “recognize Israel at all”, whatever the circumstances. Israel, he emphasized, was a “criminal enemy” with whom Egypt should never have signed a peace treaty in the first place. If this treaty is not to be abrogated, much will depend on the United States making clear to Egypt how dire the economic and political consequences for its well-being would be.

It is particularly chilling to note that the Islamic wave already dominates not only in Iran, which is on the verge of nuclear weapons, but also in Turkey, Libya, Tunisia, Morocco, the Gaza strip under Hamas and the Lebanese state, currently in the iron grip of Hezbollah. Apart from seeking to impose Shariah law, and to further downgrade the status of women – while repressing Copts and other non Muslim minorities – the neo-Islamist movements and regimes remain as determined as ever to wipe out Israel and to radically reduce American influence in the region. Needless to say, like the Brotherhood itself, Islamists consider themselves to be the sole authentic interpreters of the Divine will.

In the face of this mounting fundamentalist danger, Israel has no choice but to consolidate its deterrent capacity, close ranks and treat with the upmost skepticism any siren voices calling on it to take unreasonable “risks for peace." At the same time it will have to develop a new regional strategy that takes into account the seismic changes currently shaking the Middle East.

Prof. Robert S. Wistrich is the director of the Vidal Sassoon International Center for the Study of Antisemitism (SICSA) at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem and author of A Lethal Obsession: Antisemitism from Antiquity to the Global Jihad (Random House, 2010).

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Re: An Islamic Justice
« Reply #52 on: January 13, 2012, 02:14:51 AM »
Muslim U.S. soldier converted to Islam on Internet, traveled to Kenya with Qur'an and Islamic texts to join jihad terror group



How did he come to misunderstand the Qur'an's beautiful message of peace and depiction of jihad as an interior spiritual struggle? Why does this happen so often to devout readers of the Qur'an? There are two questions we can be sure that investigators will not care or dare to look into.

More on this story. "Craig Baxam, ex-U.S. soldier, charged with trying to aid terror group al-Shabab," by Matt Zapotosky for the Washington Post, January 9 (thanks to all who sent this in):

...In an interview with FBI agents outlined in the complaint, Baxam admitted a willingness to commit violence, though mostly in defending al-Shabab’s Somali territories from potential invaders. He told the agents that he was specifically seeking al-Shabab — not al-Qaeda — and that he felt offensive jihad was questionable.
Of course. There can be no offensive jihad without a caliph, according to traditional Islamic theology. That's why modern-day jihadists cast their jihads as defensive, as defensive jihad is always permitted -- indeed, required, if a Muslim land is attacked.

Still, Baxam acknowledged that al-Shabab was sometimes responsible for suicide bombings, according to the complaint, and he said he was “looking for dying with a gun in my hand” and would be happy to die defending Islam. He also said al-Shabab’s practice of beating people seen on the street during what is supposed to be prayer time was “awesome.”
Why Baxam became fascinated with al-Shabab and radical Islam remains unclear. A 2005 graduate of Laurel High School who was born in Takoma Park, Baxam joined the U.S. Army in 2007 and completed advanced training in cryptology and intelligence, according to the criminal complaint. He served in Baghdad, then reenlisted for a year-long stint in South Korea.

Baxam left the Army in July — a month before his term was over and about a week after he had “secretly” converted to Islam, according to the complaint. Baxam told agents that he discovered Islam while he was browsing the Internet and had no previous religious affiliation. An online article he read about the Islamic day of judgment “spoke to” him, authorities wrote in the complaint, and he read more.

Baxam’s plan to reach al-Shabab, though, was something less than ironclad. He set out with only a Koran and some other religious texts, a prayer mat, towel and razors, according to the complaint. He carried about $700 in cash and planned to donate it to al-Shabab.

After making his way to Mombasa, then Malindi, Baxam told a taxi driver to take him “as far north as possible” in Kenya, according to the complaint. Dropped off in a city whose name he could not recall, he tried to take a bus to the northern city of Garissa, according to the complaint. He was arrested on that bus by Kenyan police, who suspected that he was trying to travel to Somalia, according to the complaint....

Baxam told FBI agents that after his military service he worked for a television services company in Maryland but spent much of his time reading and praying, according to the complaint. He soon decided that he needed to move somewhere governed by sharia law, according to the complaint, so he set off for Somalia....


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« Reply #53 on: January 13, 2012, 02:16:47 AM »
Pakistani Christian editor receiving death threats for reporting on persecution of Christians



The uniformity of the language in Islamic supremacist hate mail is striking. It is so formulaic that one could all but program an automatic jihad-mail generator to do one's hating and kick back with a cup of tea. The language here is reminiscent of what we and others have received over the years. Did those guys call each other? Or could there possibly be some other reason they seem to "misunderstand" Islam with such striking uniformity?

"Christian editor receives death threats from Pakistan Islamists," by Ahmar Mustikhan for the Examiner, January 6:

A Pakistani Christian editor has said he receives hate mails and death threats on a daily basis from Pakistan for carrying reports on the persecution of Christians in the South Asian country.
Dr. Nazir S. Bhatti, editor of the Pakistan Christian Post who doubles as founder of Pakistan Christian Congress, Thursday received one such email in whch Aasia Bibi, who is languishing in jail for alleged blasphemy, and former Punjab governor Salman Taseer and minorities affairs minister Shahbaz Bhatti, who were assassinated last year for crusading to end the blasphemy law, were called harami or bastards.
A defiant Bhatti said Christians are sons of soil not descendants of Muslim invaders. Over the centuries, Muslim invaders massacred 80 million Hindus to convert India into Islam.
Bhatti posted the hate email on his Facebook page Thursday.
“I have read some of your media and it disturbs me very greatly that your media is responsible for sympathizing with the criminal, dirty harami woman Aasia Bibi, who insulted our beloved Prophet (Peace be upon him). .... Furthermore, your media has been portraying such haramis like Salman Taseer and Shahbaz Bhatti as "shaheeds" (martyrs), they are both haramis and jahannamis (destined for hell) and gustakh e Rasool (blasphemer of prophet).”
The writer told Bhatti, "I would like to remind you of one very important fact. Pakistan is an Islamic nation. It is a nation for Muslims, by Muslims, of Muslims."
Pakistan like neighboring Iran and Saudi Arabia is officially an Islamic republic where only a Muslim can become the head of state or government.
"Now you people are not Muslims, and you are not Pakistanis, but you are only guests who happen to live in Pakistan. Truth be told, we do not like you people, and would rather you leave our beautiful country. You can go to Europe or America, but we do not like you to live in Pakistan, the land which is Paak (pure)..
"All of Pakistan is behind Hazrat Ghazi e Millat, Mumtaz Hussain Qadri.... we will make life for you in Pakistan a living hell, I swear to God so don’t forget it.”
In fact, many in the West were stunned as lawyers in Rawalpindi, headquarters of the Pakistan military, garlanded the alleged Qadri and took out rallies in his favor.
After killing Governor Taseer, militants abducted his young son Shahbaz Taseer as a way to protect his killer Qadri.


Christains are routinely killed, forcibly converted and raped in Pakistan, but the culprits are never brought to justice.




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« Reply #54 on: January 13, 2012, 02:19:34 AM »
...Persecution of Muslims in America, continued

However, it is never too late to start rebuilding what we have broken.  Chimamanda was very clear that stories matter; “stories have been used to dispossess and to malign, but stories can also be used to empower and to humanize.  Stories can break the dignity of a people, but stories can also repair that broken dignity.” 

In his column, Kristof spoke on behalf of Americans, saying, “I hereby apologize to Muslims for the wave of bigotry and simple nuttiness that has lately been directed at you.  The venom on the airwaves, equating Muslims with terrorists, should embarrass us more than you.” 

If you share Kristof’s embarrassment, then please start sharing the other stories of Muslims, the stories about peace and about kindness because those are too often left behind. [To get you started, here are a few stories about the humanity of Muslims: here and here.]*  Muslims in Pakistan today are struggling through one of the largest catastrophes in history and through it all they are exhibiting compassion for one another and humanity.  As another example, in my last post I wrote about a powerful positive message delivered by Eboo Patel, an American Muslim.  The Muslims in these stories are humans who deserve the same dignity and respect that anyone else ought to have.

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« Reply #55 on: January 13, 2012, 02:23:57 AM »
If we are to bring real change to the poor at the bottom of the economic pyramid (BoP), then we have to have an attitude of tolerance and acceptance.  Our work has to be firmly rooted in strong, moral values.  Through evidence of honor killings, female genital mutilation and sex trafficking, the book Half the Sky demonstrates that prejudice exits amongst those we are trying to serve.  How can we preach tolerance and acceptance of all if we can’t practice it at home?

I want to leave you with the final quote from Chimamanda Achibie’s talk.  The single story we are telling about Muslims in America is a very dangerous one, but we can still refuse to allow that to be the only story.  She said, “When we reject the single story, when we realize that there is never a single story about any place [or people], we regain a kind of paradise.”  Let’s work on building paradise here in America.

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« Reply #56 on: January 13, 2012, 02:25:30 AM »
Spencer: Santorum more realistic than Romney and Paul on jihad



In Human Events this morning, I discuss several of the candidates who will be facing off up in New Hampshire today:

After Rick Santorum​’s surprising show in Iowa, he may be the only candidate standing between Mitt Romney​ and the Republican nomination. But there is no contest between the two as to which demonstrates a more realistic understanding of the threat of jihad and Islamic supremacism. In that arena, Santorum wins hands down.
“Jihadism is evil and we need to say what it is,” Santorum said last March. “We need to define it and say what it is. And it is evil. Sharia law is incompatible with American jurisprudence and our Constitution.” He added correctly, and in sharp contrast to the prevailing view, that “Sharia law is not just a religious code. It is also a governmental code. It happens to be both religious in nature and origin, but it is a civil code. And it is incompatible with the civil code of the United States.”

Even though he made these remarks almost a year ago, as he rises in prominence, Santorum is going to get a lot of heat for this. The Islamic supremacist sympathizers in the mainstream media began calling to these remarks after the Iowa caucus, accusing Santorum of the phantom malady of “Islamophobia.”

One would hope that in response to these accusations Santorum would ask Leftist reporters (and Ron Paul, who recently accused him of “hating Muslims”) if they think that Sharia provisions such as the death penalty for apostates, stoning for adultery, amputation of the hand for theft, the denial of freedom of speech and institutionalized second-class status for women and non-Muslims are not evil.

If Santorum did that, it is likely that the media would then highlight some smooth Islamic supremacist deceiver who would claim that those things are not part of Sharia; however, there is not a single Muslim country that has ever implemented Sharia without implementing those measures, or one school of Islamic jurisprudence that does not teach such things. So Rick Santorum is on firm ground.

Mitt Romney, by contrast, is sinking into the quicksand of politically correct half-truths and untruths about Islam and jihad. Recently he claimed that violent Islamic jihadists “take a very different view of Islam than the Muslims I know.” He said that the Muslims he knew in Detroit were “peace-loving and America-loving individuals. I believe that very sincerely. I believe people of the Islamic faith do not have to subscribe to the idea of radical, violent jihadism.” Romney has even gone so far as to claim that “there is, however, a movement in the world known as jihadism” that is “by no means a branch of Islam. It is instead an entirely different entity. In no way do I suggest it is a part of Islam.”

This is tantamount to saying that the local post office is by no means a branch of the U.S. Postal Service, or that golf has nothing to do with the country-club left-leaning Republicanism that Romney represents....



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« Reply #57 on: January 13, 2012, 02:31:43 AM »
It is a shame that so many innocent Christians are being killed and persecuted so violently in these areas. May The Lord Jesus Christ protect them and support them in their times of trial....



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« Reply #58 on: January 13, 2012, 02:35:48 AM »
lorenz's latest source of muslim bashing articles:  http://www.jihadwatch.org/

Jihad Watch is a blog affiliated with the David Horowitz Freedom Center, which is run independently by American author Robert Spencer.  It is considered an important platform for the counterjihad movement.

According to the website, a theology of violent jihad, which denies non Muslims equality, human rights, and dignity, has been present throughout the history of Islam. Jihad Watch says that it is "dedicated to bringing public attention to the role that jihad theology and ideology plays in the modern world, and to correcting popular misconceptions about the role of jihad and religion in modern-day conflicts."  It has been called "Islamophobic" by opponents who say it portrays Islam and it followers in a negative light.  Spencer has rebutted that criticism. (excerpts from wikipedia)

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« Reply #59 on: January 13, 2012, 02:39:52 AM »
Criticism

The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) called Jihad Watch an "Internet hate site" and claimed it is "notorious for its depiction of Islam as an inherently violent faith that is a threat to world peace."  Guardian writer Brian Whitaker described Jihad Watch as a "notoriously Islamophobic website", while other critics such as Dinesh D'Souza, Karen Armstrong, and Cathy Young, pointed to what they see as "deliberate mischaracterizations" of Islam and Muslims by Spencer as inherently violent and therefore prone to terrorism.

Former Pakistan Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto, in her book Reconciliation: Islam, Democracy, and the West, wrote that Spencer uses Jihad Watch to spread misinformation and hatred of Islam.  She added that he presents a skewed, one-sided, and inflammatory story that only helps to sow the seed of civilizational conflict.  The websites Spencer Watch and Loon Watch were founded in reaction to Spencer and the Jihad Watch website and critique the cogency of Spencer's criticisms. (wikipedia excerpts)

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« Reply #60 on: January 13, 2012, 02:42:33 AM »
Response to criticism

Spencer has responded to accusations that Jihad Watch is Islamophobic by declaring the term "Islamophobe" a label, "a tool used by Islamic apologists to silence criticism."  He says that his work is

    dedicated to identifying the causes of jihad terrorism, which of course lead straight back into the Islamic texts. I have therefore called for reform of those texts... I have dedicated Jihad Watch to defending equality of rights and freedom of conscience for all people.  That's Islamophobic?  Then is the fault in the phobe, or in the Islam? (wikipedia excerpts)

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« Reply #61 on: January 13, 2012, 02:46:28 AM »
Funding

Jihad watch has been funded by a variety of individuals and foundations, like Bradley Foundation and Joyce Chernick, wife of Aubrey Chernick.  Ken Vogel of Politico wrote that

       Though it was not listed on the public tax reports filed by Horowitz's Freedom Center, POLITICO has confirmed that the lion's share of the $920,000 it provided over the past three years to Jihad Watch came from Chernick, whose husband, Aubrey Chernick, has a net worth of $750 million, as a result of his 2004 sale to IBM of a software company he created, and a security consulting firm he now owns.  The David Horowitz Freedom Center had a budget of $4.5 million last year, according to its tax filings, of which $290,000 came from the conservative Bradley Foundation, which also gave $75,000 to the Center for Security Policy last year.  Horowitz has received an average of $461,000 a year in salary and benefits over the past three years, while Spencer has pulled in an average of $140,000, according to the center's IRS filings. (wikipedia excerpts)

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« Reply #62 on: January 13, 2012, 02:49:31 AM »
It is a shame that so many innocent Christians are being killed and persecuted so violently in these areas. May The Lord Jesus Christ protect them and support them in their times of trial....

and may he protect you too from sanctimony and religious bigotry.

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« Reply #63 on: January 13, 2012, 03:00:27 AM »
Jihad Watch is a blog affiliated with the David Horowitz Freedom Center

understandable that only alleged muslim atrocities are reflected in this blog.  there should be nothing here about what jews do (as in what they do to palestinians).  the david horowitz freedom center is jewish (freedom for jews, naturally) as prof. robert s. wistrich is jewish.  it's politics again, really.     


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Re: An Islamic Justice
« Reply #64 on: January 13, 2012, 03:05:44 AM »
A source is a source, there will be an agenda which ever source you utilize. Either it be fox news, bbc, cnbc, jihadwatch, etc. The point is, the message is that there is a plethora of our Christian brothers and sisters that are living under dire situations in Muslim-dominated countries.



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« Reply #65 on: January 13, 2012, 03:07:12 AM »
The websites Spencer Watch and Loon Watch were founded in reaction to Spencer and the Jihad Watch website and critique the cogency of Spencer's criticisms.

would it harm your faith, lorenz, to try visiting these websites for balance's sake? 

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« Reply #66 on: January 13, 2012, 03:07:55 AM »
Muslim Genocide of Christians throughout Middle East



ICC Note:

Hudson New York reports that, “Christians in Arab countries are no longer being persecuted; they are now being slaughtered and driven out of their homes and lands.” The article highlights the persecution of Christians in Iraq, Egypt and the Palestinian territories.

By Khaled Abu Toameh

11/26/2010 Middle East (Hudson New York) – It is obvious by now that the Christians in the Middle East are an "endangered species."

Christians in Arab countries are no longer being persecuted; they are now being slaughtered and driven out of their homes and lands.

Those who for many years turned a blind eye to complaints about the persecution of Christians in the Middle East now owe the victims an apology. Now it is clear to all that these complaints were not "Jewish propaganda."

The war of genocide against Christians in the Middle East can no longer be treated as an "internal affair" of Iraq or Egypt or the Palestinians. What the West needs to understand is that radical Islam has declared jihad not only against Jews, but also against Christians.

In Iraq, Egypt and the Palestinian territories, Christians are being targeted almost on a daily basis by Muslim fundamentalists and secular dictators.

Dozens of Arab Christians in Iraq have been killed in recent months in what seems to be well-planned campaign to drive them out of the country. Many Christian families have already begun fleeing Iraq out of fear for their lives.

Some have chosen to start new lives in Jordan, while many others are expressing hope that they could be resettled in North America or Europe.

In Egypt, the plight of the Coptic Christian minority appears to be worsening. Just this week, the Egyptian security forces killed a Coptic Christian man and wounded scores of others who were protesting against the government's intention to demolish a Christian-owned structure.

Hardly a day passes without reports of violence against members of the Coptic Christian community in various parts of Egypt. Most of the attacks are carried out by Muslim fundamentalists.

…

Palestinian Christians have also been feeling the heat, although their conditions remain much better than those of their brothers and sisters in Iraq and Egypt.

Last week, the Western-funded Palestinian Authority in the West Bank arrested a Christian journalist who reported about differences between Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas and senior Fatah operative Mohammed Dahlan. The journalist, George Qanawati, manager of Radio Bethlehem 2000, was freed five days later.

In the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip, the tiny Christian community is also living in fear following a spate of attacks by radical Islamic groups.



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« Reply #67 on: January 13, 2012, 03:11:20 AM »
would it harm your faith, lorenz, to try visiting these websites for balance's sake? 

goodnight!  (i need to hit the sack now.  it's the wee hours of the morning here.)  :)

I have read your posts , Isles, and I would like to thank you for adding the other view, however, I stand with what I have said, the sense of 'relativism' cannot be supported in the case of our Christian brothers and sisters who have been persecuted and killed by muslims and islamic policies.

By in large, generally speaking, many of the muslims living in western nations enjoy freedom of religion and rights accorded to them by national constitutions and bill of rights , however, the Christians living in predominantly-muslim nations are not afforded that right. In fact, are being persecuted and forced to hide their faith , or flee the said country or face extermination.





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The Forgotten: Christians Persecuted in the Middle East
« Reply #68 on: January 13, 2012, 03:19:28 AM »
By George J. Marlin      



A bloodstained image of Jesus (Church of Saints in Alexandria, Egypt)





The upheaval in the Middle East has turned that region into a war zone. Protesters in Bahrain, Libya, and Yemen have been shot, clubbed, and jailed. Public condemnation of the violence by the United States and European Union is certainly warranted, and no-fly zones and other sanctions may be necessary to prevent the mass slaughter of innocent people.

Protesters and freedom fighters, however, are not the only victims of violence in the Middle East. There has been a significant rise in Christian bloodshed. Unfortunately, the leaders of Western powers, with little exception, have ignored those crimes.

In his annual address to the Vatican diplomatic corps, Pope Benedict XVI pointed to the “acts of discrimination against Christians, which are considered less grave and less worthy of attention on the part of governments and public opinion.” The Holy Father renewed his “heartfelt appeal” to Muslim religious leaders “that their Christians fellow-citizens be able to live in security, continuing to contribute to the society in which they are fully members.” Egypt’s Al-Azhar University suspended talks with the Vatican because they found the pope’s references to Muslim violence “insulting.”

Among other duties, I serve as Chairman of Aid to the Church in Need, U.S.A., a charity directly under the Holy Father that supports the faithful wherever they are persecuted, oppressed, or in need. I receive regular updates and status reports on the plight of Christians in the Middle East. Here’s a roundup of what happened this past year:

Afghanistan: The nation’s constitution designates Islam as the state religion and “no law can be contrary to the beliefs and provisions of the sacred religion of Islam.” As a result, in May 2010 a group of Muslims were sentenced to death for converting to Christianity. Fortunately, they escaped and found asylum in India. In August, ten members of an eye-care team from the Christian International assistance mission were murdered in Afghanistan’s northern mountains. The Taliban claimed responsibility saying the volunteers were trying to convert Muslims to Christianity. Open Doors, an international Christian rights organization, rates Afghanistan as the world’s fourth worst country for Christian prosecution.

Egypt: In December 2010, Muslim extremists attacked an Orthodox Coptic Church in Upper Egypt during Christmas midnight Mass and murdered nine. On New Years Day, twenty mass goers died and seventy others were wounded when a car bomb exploded outside the Church of Saints in Alexandria. Egypt is the home to 20-million Christians – far more than any other country in the region. Orthodox, Catholics, and Protestants are persecuted for allegedly carrying out clandestine evangelization. Since it takes up to thirty years to receive permits to build a Christian church, the militant Imams have cracked down on Christians who gather in makeshift places of worship, claiming they are illegal.

Iran: While the population of Iran has grown since 1979 from 38 to 72 million, the Christian population has declined from 100,000 to 15,000. Christians have fled because they were constantly harassed by the government and falsely accused of being pro-Western. Because renouncing Islam is a crime of apostasy, there have been numerous arrests in Christian communities. In 2009, for instance, two women converts were arrested and charged with “acting against the security of the state” for distributing Bibles in their church. Thanks to international pressure they were released after eight months in jail, and allowed to leave the country. In January, about seventy Christians were arrested for attending services in “house churches.” In a November 2010 letter to President Ahmadinejad, Pope Benedict asked why Christian minorities live as dhimmis, second-class citizens.

Iraq: Since 2000, over 77 percent of Iraq’s 700,000 Christians have fled. In February 2008, the Catholic Archbishop of one of the world’s oldest Christian communities, Mosul (known in scripture as Nineveh), Paulos Faraj Rahho, was kidnapped and died in captivity two weeks later. His successor, Archbishop Amil Nona, believes that his diocese has suffered “some of the worst persecution to befall the Church in a generation.” On October 31, 2010, 58 people died and 70 were injured when an organization linked to al Qaeda attacked Baghdad’s Our Lady of Deliverance Syrian Catholic Cathedral during Sunday Mass. Among the dead were two young priests. Archbishop Louis Sako commented: “For us Christians of Iraq, martyrdom is the charism of our Church . . . .We are aware that bearing witness to Christ can mean martyrdom.”

Pakistan: Although the constitution of Pakistan states it is a secular country, violating blasphemy laws can be punishable by death. The Catholic Church’s Commission of Justice and Peace reported that since 1986 approximately 993 people have been charged with slandering Mohammed or desecrating the Qur’an. On March 2, 2011, the only Pakistani Christian cabinet member, Shahbaz Bhatti, was assassinated because he campaigned to reform the blasphemy laws. At his requiem in the Roman Catholic parish of Our Lady of Fatima, only one cabinet member had the courage to attend, Prime Minister Raza Gilani. Imagine if a U.S. cabinet member were murdered and only the president appeared at the funeral.

Saudi Arabia: Religious freedom is not protected under law and is severely restricted in practice. Public ceremonies or services by non-Islamic religions are banned. Saudi Arabia’s 1-million Christians are constantly harassed and police raid private religious gatherings and confiscate religious articles.

Yemen: There are only 8,000 Christians in this nation of 24 million. Yet in February, Yemen’s al Qaeda leader called on Muslims to wage jihad against them.
Despite all these crimes, there is hardly a peep from the Western powers. These victims would be completely forgotten if not for the Holy Father. In his January 1, 2011 World Peace Day message, he reminded the world that Middle East Christians “experience daily affronts and often live in fear because of their pursuit of truth, their faith in Christ Jesus and their heartfelt plea for respect for religious freedom. This situation is unacceptable since it represents an insult to God and to human dignity.”


George J. Marlin is an editor of The Quotable Fulton Sheen and the author of The American Catholic Voter.

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Re: An Islamic Justice
« Reply #69 on: January 13, 2012, 03:24:58 AM »
A source is a source, there will be an agenda which ever source you utilize. Either it be fox news, bbc, cnbc, jihadwatch, etc. The point is, the message is that there is a plethora of our Christian brothers and sisters that are living under dire situations in Muslim-dominated countries.

more often, a source is just a source.  it's the reader who makes the choice of believing all that one reads about one side of an issue.  i believe the term for that is narrow-mindedness?  or is it bigotry?  why, even the term "muslim-dominated" that you use is already a revelation.  it's as if there's a rivalry on what religion should be on top and should thus dominate.  won't a simple "muslim country" do?   

do share with us what else you've learned from your islamic studies some years back.

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Pope Benedict XVI to diplomats: "The persecution of Christians must end"
« Reply #70 on: January 13, 2012, 03:25:58 AM »
Pope Benedict XVI to diplomats: "The persecution of Christians must end"





In his traditional address to the Ambassadors, Benedict XVI gives an overview of the world's problems: from the economic crisis to Syria and to Nigeria and says, "Religious freedom is the first and foremost human right"

"In many countries, Christians are deprived of fundamental rights and relegated to the margins of public life; in others they suffer violent attacks against their churches and their homes." Pope Ratzinger stated this while receiving the diplomatic corps accredited to the Holy See in the Sala Regia for the traditional New Year greetings. Benedict XVI, like every year, presented an overview of the state of the world, pointing out problems and encouraging signs. Firstly, He welcomed the Ambassador of Malaysia, a country that was added in 2011, and addressed a thought to the newly born state of Southern Sudan, formed last July, calling for an end to "tensions and clashes."

ECONOMIC CRISIS
 
The Pope recalled the "serious and alarming" consequences of the global financial and economic crisis which "not only affects families and businesses in the economically more advanced countries where it originated, creating a situation in which many, especially young people, have felt confused and frustrated in their aspirations for a brighter future," but has "profound impact also on the lives of developing countries."  Benedict XVI invites us not to lose heart and to "resolutely redesign our journey with new forms of commitment. The crisis can and should be a stimulus to reflect on human existence and the importance of its ethical dimension, even before the mechanisms that govern economic life."  We must, he explained, "establish new rules that will assure that everyone has the opportunity to live with dignity and to develop their skills for the benefit of the entire community."
 
YOUNG PEOPLE AND THE ARAB SPRING
 
Ratzinger then spoke of the "effects of this time of uncertainty" that particularly affects young people. "Their malaise has originated the turmoil which in recent months has invested, at times heavily, the different regions. I am referring primarily to North Africa and the Middle East where young people who, among other things, suffer from poverty and the fear of unemployment and feel that there are no certain prospects, have launched what has become a vast movement that demands reforms and more active participation in political and social life."  According to Benedict XVI, it is still early to make an assessment, but it is clear that "the initial optimism" has "given way to recognition of the difficulties of this moment of transition and change, and it seems clear that the appropriate way to continue the path taken is by recognizing the inalienable dignity of every human being and their fundamental rights." Respect for the person, Ratzinger said, "must be the focal point of institutions and laws, it must lead to the end of all violence and prevent the risk that the dutiful attention to requests from citizens' and the social solidarity needed are transformed into simple tools for maintaining or regaining power." The Pope also urged the international community "to dialogue with the those involved with the processes underway, with respect for populations and aware that building a stable and reconciled society, far removed from all unjust discrimination, particularly in terms of religious diversity, is a horizon wider and farther away than that of the elections."
 
 
SYRIA, THE HOLY LAND AND IRAQ
 
Benedict XVI expressed "great concern" for those populations of countries where tensions and violence continue, "in particular Syria, where I hope for a speedy end to bloodshed and the beginning of a fruitful dialogue between politicians, favored by the presence of independent observers."  He then mentioned the pious Holy Land, "where tension between Palestinians and Israelis have repercussions on the stability of the entire Middle East."  It is necessary, he said, that "those responsible for these two populations make courageous and farsighted decisions in favor of peace."  The Pope mentioned his appreciation for the initiative taken by the Kingdom of Jordan for resuming dialogue: "I hope that it will continue in order to reach a lasting peace, guaranteeing the right of those two populations to live in safety in sovereign States inside secure and internationally recognized border." And in this case as well, has asked the international community to "stimulate their creativity and initiatives to promote this peace process, while respecting the rights of each party." The Pope then said to follow "with great attention the developments in Iraq, deploring the attacks that have, until recently, caused the loss of many lives, and I encourage its leaders to continue firmly on the road to a full national reconciliation."
 
EDUCATION AND FAMILY
 
Echoing the theme of World Day for Peace, Benedict XVI reiterated that education is "a crucial issue for every generation," reaffirming the need to preserve "educational places." "One of these is - he said – is first of all the family founded on marriage between a man and a woman. This is not just a social convention, but the basis for all societies. Therefore, policies that are detrimental to the family threaten human dignity and the very future of humanity."  The Pope has called for policies that enhance the family. And speaking of opening up to life he expressed his satisfaction with the recent decision of the Court of Justice of the European Union, which "prohibits the patenting of processes related to human embryonic stem cells, as well as the resolution of the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe, that condemns prenatal selection based on sex." Looking especially to the Western world, Ratzinger said he was convinced that "we oppose the education of young people and thereby legislative measures for the future of humanity that not only allow, but sometimes even promote, abortion for reasons of convenience or questionable medical reasons."

RELIGIOUS FREEDOM AND PERSECUTION
 
Speaking of education, Benedict XVI observed that “an effective education also solicits respect for religious freedom” which “is characterized by an individual dimension, as well as a collective dimension and an institutional dimension”. Religious freedom is “the first of human rights, because it expresses the most fundamental reality of the person”. A right that “too often, for various reasons, is still limited or mocked”. The Pope paid tribute to the memory of Pakistani Minister Shahbaz Bhatti, “whose tireless fight for the rights of minorities ended with a tragic death.” He added: “it is not, unfortunately, an isolated case. In many countries, Christians are deprived of fundamental rights and relegated to the margins of public life; in others they suffer violent attacks against their churches and their homes. Sometimes they are forced to abandon the country that they helped to build, because of continuing political tensions and policies that often relegate them a secondary spectators in the life of the country”. In other parts of the world, Ratzinger said, “there are policies bent on marginalizing the role of religion in social life, as though it were the cause for the intolerance, rather than an appreciable contribution to education in respect of human dignity, justice and peace.”  Benedict XVI called the legislative changes "encouraging" signals of religious freedom, “by which the public legal personality of religious minorities has been recognized in Georgia,” as well as the ruling of the European Court of Human Rights “in favor of the presence of crucifixes in Italian classrooms”. A sentence for which Italy worked extensively. And in saying this the Pope addressed a “special thought” for Italy, “at the end of the 150th  anniversary of its political unification.”
 
ENOUGH WITH TERRORISM
 
The Pope recalled how last year “religiously motivated terrorism” claimed many victims, “especially in Asia and Africa” ​​and reiterated that religious leaders should be “firmly and forcefully repeating that this is not the true nature of religion. Instead, it is the misrepresentation that contributes to its destruction. Religion cannot be used as an excuse to bypass the rules of justice and law.”
 
THE FORGOTTEN AFRICA
 
Benedict XVI recalled the recent visit to Benin, and the path of reconciliation between the various communities and ethnic groups. “It is sad to note”, he added, “that in various countries of that continent this goal is still far away.” Ratzinger said he was referring, "in particular to the upsurge of violence in Nigeria, as highlighted by the attacks against various churches over Christmas, the aftermath of civil war in Côte d'Ivoire, the continuing instability in the Great Lakes Region and the urgent humanitarian situation in the countries of the Horn of Africa.” And he asked, “once again, that the international community promptly help to find a solution to the crisis that has been going on for years now in Somalia.”
 
ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION
Lastly, Benedict XVI returned to one of the recurring themes of his pontificate, emphasizing how education that is “properly understood, can only encourage respect for creation”. The Pope mentioned “the serious natural disasters in 2011 that hit several areas of Southeast Asia, and the environmental disasters such as the nuclear power plant in Fukushima in Japan”. Caring for the environment, “the synergy between the fight against poverty and climate change are - he added – important areas for promoting integral human development”. Ratzinger therefore hoped that “after the XVII session of the Conference of States Parties to the UN Convention on Climate Change recently concluded in Durban, the international community must prepare for the UN Conference on Sustainable Development (“Rio+20”) as an authentic “family of nations” and, therefore, with a great sense of solidarity and responsibility towards present and future generations”.


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« Reply #71 on: January 13, 2012, 03:28:03 AM »


do share with us what else you've learned from your islamic studies some years back.

got to go...

I would gladly share, perhaps, later in another thread. Good Night, Isles. Sweet Dreams.






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Pope condemns persecution of Christians
« Reply #72 on: January 13, 2012, 10:50:38 AM »
By Cindy Wooden on Monday, 9 January 2012



Benedict XVI has paid tribute to murdered Pakistani politician Shahbaz Bhatti


Pope Benedict XVI has condemned “religiously motivated terrorism” and restrictions on religious freedom during his annual address to diplomats accredited to the Vatican.

Looking at signs of promise and areas of concern around the globe, the Pope said human dignity, truth and justice demand that governments safeguard all human life and recognise the importance of the traditional family based on the marriage of a man and a woman.

But his strongest words were reserved for the topic of religious freedom and religiously motivated violence.

The Pope paid tribute to Shahbaz Bhatti, a Catholic and government minister for minorities in Pakistan, “whose untiring battle for the rights of minorities ended in his tragic death” when he was murdered last March.

“Sadly, we are not speaking of an isolated case,” the Pope told the diplomats gathered in a formal, frescoed hall of the Apostolic Palace.

“In many countries, Christians are deprived of fundamental rights and sidelined from public life; in other countries they endure violent attacks against their churches and homes,” he said, mentioning particularly the Christmas Day attacks against churches in Nigeria.

“In other parts of the world,” he said, “we see policies aimed at marginalising the role of religion in the life of society, as if it were a cause of intolerance rather than a valued contribution to education in respect for human dignity, justice and peace.”

“In the past year, religiously motivated terrorism has also reaped numerous victims, especially in Asia and in Africa,” he said.

Discussing the Arab Spring movements that toppled repressive governments in North Africa and spread to the Middle East, Pope Benedict said “it is hard to make a definitive assessment” of events, but “initial optimism has yielded to an acknowledgment of the difficulties of this moment of transition and change”.

With concerns expressed about creating new power elites or creating situations where Christian minorities could face more pressure, the only way forward towards true democracy and peace “is through the recognition of the inalienable dignity of each human person and of his or her fundamental rights”, the Pope said.

“Respect for the person must be at the centre of institutions and laws,” the Pope said in his address to representatives of the 179 countries that have full diplomatic relations with the Vatican.

Pope Benedict focused particularly on the needs and concerns of the world’s young people as he spoke to the ambassadors about the global economic crisis, the Arab Spring democracy movement, wars and social tensions.

“The present moment is sadly marked by a profound disquiet, and the various crises – economic, political and social – are a dramatic expression of this,” he said.

The Pope expressed his hopes for an end to bloodshed and tensions in South Sudan, Syria, the Holy Land, Iraq and the Great Lakes region of Africa, and urged the nations of the world to take seriously their obligation to protect the environment and fight climate change.

Saying he was looking particularly toward developed western nations, Pope Benedict urged governments to protect the most basic human right – the right to life.

“I am convinced that legislative measures which not only permit but at times even promote abortion for reasons of convenience or for questionable medical motives compromise the education of young people” in respect for life and hope for the future, which in turn compromises the future of humanity, he said.

Pope Benedict said education in knowledge and in values was crucial today and that “pride of place goes to the family, based on the marriage of a man and a woman.”

“This is not a simple social convention,” he said. The family is the basic structure of society and “policies which undermine the family threaten human dignity and the future of humanity itself,” he said.

Turning his attention to the environment, the Pope said people cannot ignore the natural calamities and “ecological disasters like that of the Fukushima nuclear plant in Japan” that marked 2011.

“Environmental protection and the connection between fighting poverty and fighting climate change are important areas for the promotion of integral human development,” he said. The Pope asked governments to demonstrate “a great sense of solidarity and responsibility toward present and future generations” as they prepare for the UN Conference on Sustainable Development, which will be held on June 20 to 22 in Rio de Janeiro.

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Pope Benedict condemns church attack in Egypt
« Reply #73 on: January 13, 2012, 10:53:30 AM »
Pope Benedict condemned a bomb blast outside a church in Egypt which killed at least 21 people, the latest in a series of attacks on Christians in the Middle East and Africa.

"This vile gesture of death, like that of putting bombs near to the houses of Christians in Iraq to force them to leave, offends God and all of humanity," the pope said after his weekly angelus blessing.

The car bomb explosion outside a Coptic Christian church in Alexandria on Saturday wounded dozens of people as worshippers gathered to mark the new year and Egypt's Interior Ministry said a foreign-backed suicide bomber might have been responsible.

It prompted Christians to protest on the streets, and some Christians and Muslims threw stones at each other. Christians make up about 10 percent of Egypt's population of 79 million.

The pope urged Christian communities to persevere in a non-violent manner in the face of what he described as "a strategy of violence that has Christians as a target."

Two people were killed and at least 16 wounded in a series of bomb attacks on Thursday on the homes of minority Christians in the Iraqi capital, Baghdad, security sources said.

Over Christmas, six people were killed in attacks on two Christian churches in northeastern Nigeria and six were wounded by a bomb in a Roman Catholic Church on the island of Jolo in the Philippines.

The Vatican fears that the attacks, combined with severe restrictions on Christians in countries such as Saudi Arabia, are fuelling a Christian exodus from the region.

In his New Year's homily, the pope said "words were not enough" to bring about peace, particularly in the Middle East.

He called for "concrete and constant commitment" from national leaders and said everyone on a local level should strive for peace in their relations with their neighbors.

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« Reply #74 on: January 14, 2012, 09:30:59 AM »
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« Reply #75 on: January 14, 2012, 04:45:11 PM »
klaro ang imong paghagpat, chris.  (kumusta ang imong new year tuod?)  akong pagsabot nimo, ang relihiyon gigamit sa politikong tumong mao nga kun unsa may gubot nga mahitabo, di angay basulon ang relihiyon.  hinaot unta nga sakto ang akong pagsabot sa imong buot ipasabot.

sa kitatibok an maayo man akong new year,,kaso gisugat sa ubo og sip on,,,,,

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« Reply #76 on: January 15, 2012, 01:52:08 AM »
sa kitatibok an maayo man akong new year,,kaso gisugat sa ubo og sip on,,,,,

get well soon! 

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« Reply #77 on: January 15, 2012, 02:01:14 AM »
Speaking of education, Benedict XVI observed that “an effective education also solicits respect for religious freedom” which “is characterized by an individual dimension, as well as a collective dimension and an institutional dimension”.  Religious freedom is “the first of human rights, because it expresses the most fundamental reality of the person”.  A right that “too often, for various reasons, is still limited or mocked”.

and the mocking is not limited to adherents of other religions.  christians do it too, as shown by some posts in this thread from questionable or biased internet sources.  for pointing this human flaw out, viva, il papa!


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« Reply #78 on: January 15, 2012, 02:04:29 AM »
from another thread (in Inspirational Stories | Dosage of Hope):

A Muslim man died and when he arrived in Paradise, he was met by the great Prophet Moses, who showed him around.

They saw all the beautiful trees, and met with many other Muslims. By and by, they came across a large Temple with a giant throne, encrusted in jewels. All around it stood massive soldiers, and around them darted many happy-faced children.

"Who are they?" asked the Muslim man.

"They are the Children of Israel," said Moses. "They have come to Paradise and received what they sought--triumph, strength and recognition."

The Muslim man nodded, and on they went. Next they came across a large meadow filled with people of many different backgrounds, all sitting happily and eating a giant Potluck dinner.

"Who are they?" asked the Muslim man.

"They are the Unitarian Universalists. They came to Paradise and found peace and harmony among all people."

The Muslim man smiled, and on the went. By and by they came across a giant white fence, with a large sign: "Do not Enter".

"Who are they?" asked the Muslim man, with a frown.

"Oh, them?" answered Moses. "Those are the Christians." Then he bent down and whispered into the Muslim man's ear, "They think they're the only ones here".

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« Reply #79 on: January 15, 2012, 10:21:51 AM »
and the mocking is not limited to adherents of other religions.  christians do it too, as shown by some posts in this thread from questionable or biased internet sources. 

Kadto rang hamtong na sa ilang pagtuo maoy makalikay sa tawhanong awhag pagpalakaw og mga pasipala.

 

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