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Was Mary Magdalene the wife of Jesus Christ?
« on: August 07, 2008, 02:54:31 PM »
Much attention has been given lately to Mary Magdalene and her relationship with Jesus. There are questions concerning her role as a female disciple and what that may mean for women in the Church. Controversy exists over whether or not she may have actually been the wife of Jesus. Lies have been told about her profession before becoming a follower of Christ. There is debate about whether or not she is the author of the Gospel of John. “The Gospel of Mary” has been found and its validity contested. This beloved disciple of Christ was obviously important to Him. What does the role of Mary Magdalene as a venerated disciple of Jesus Christ say about the place of women in ministry?

Many Christians know this contentious figure as Mary Magdalene, the Prostitute. However, this was neither her name nor her profession. Mary Magdalene’s name was actually Miriam. She was from the village of Magdala. Magdala was a tiny fishing village on the northwest corner of the Sea of Galilee, an area we know Jesus evangelized. No place in the text of the New Testament does it say that Mary Magdalene was a prostitute. This myth was started in the 6th century by Pope St. Gregory I. He stated that both Mary Magdalene and Mary of Bethany were the same woman and that she was also the “woman of sin” mentioned in Luke 7. From then on, Mary Magdalene was known as a prostitute. Professor Christopher Witcombe writes, “It has been suggested that Gregory I's transformation of Mary Magdalen into a prostitute was a way of countering the problem she posed for the Church. Since the 2nd century, as Christianity became institutionalized along increasingly patriarchal lines, the prominence of Mary Magdalen had posed the threat of sanctioning a leadership role for women in the Church.”

In the Eastern Orthodox and Roman Catholic churches, women are not allowed to become priests. Father Alister Anderson of Sts. Peter & Paul Church in Bethesda, Maryland pronounces, “Only a man can be ordained as a deacon, priest or bishop because Jesus the perfect Man chose only men to be His disciples and apostles.” This would view would make it difficult for Orthodox and Catholic believers to agree that Mary Magdalene had an important role as an apostle or that she wrote a Gospel containing information as valuable as the four Gospels that we find in the New Testament.

“The Gospel of Mary Magdala” is a non-fiction book by Karen King of the Harvard Divinity School. According to Jane Lampman, staff writer for the Christian Science Monitor, “. . . this gospel, written in the second century, tells of a conversation among Mary, Peter, Andrew, and Levi about a teaching Jesus gave to Mary on the end of the material world and the nature of sin. It highlights Mary's role as an apostle and Peter's resistance to her role.” As I researched this Gospel of Mary Magdala, I found that much of the text was missing. Seeing that, I understood a much better reason for not including it in the Canon. I don’t doubt that misogyny could have been part of the reason that we are just now finding out things about Mary Magdalene, but the truth is that even her own Gospel doesn’t give us a complete view of her time with Jesus.

The popularity of the book The DaVinci Code has led to questions about whether or not Mary Magdalene was actually the wife of Jesus. In the research that I have done, I could not find anything substantial that would lead me to believe that Jesus and Mary Magdalene were married. I agree that Mary Magdalene was extremely special to have been the first to see the resurrected Christ. Her relationship with Jesus was deep and He obviously had a great love for her. Their evident relationship proves to me that women have great value in the eyes of God.

Jesus treated His female followers with same respect and love that He showed His male disciples. Mary Magdalene may not have written the Gospel of John, but she was the first to see Him resurrected. She may not have been one of the twelve disciples, but she followed Him closely and was very dear to Him. While here on Earth we may never know the truth about the mysteries and myths associated with Mary Magdalene, we can be sure that her close following of Jesus and her deep relationship with Him speaks volumes about Jesus view women.



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Re: Was Mary Magdalene the wife of Jesus Christ?
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2008, 11:29:53 PM »
according to the novel da vinci code, it's true.

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Re: Was Mary Magdalene the wife of Jesus Christ?
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2008, 11:45:55 PM »
its only a novel Ray,

pero it is under deabte and research karong panahona,

maybe few decades from now naa nay kamatuoran ang tanan...


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Re: Was Mary Magdalene the wife of Jesus Christ?
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2008, 12:00:30 AM »
what was written in that novel sometimes puzzles me. i know i don't have to believe on it but there are several articles and movies that questions the roman catholic beliefs. if you happen to see the movie "the body" starring antonio banderas, you will surely think of something. my family is a devoted catholic and they believe whatever they read in the bible. i do read bible from time to time but i have more interest in digging deeper the roman catholic beliefs and doctrines.

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Re: Was Mary Magdalene the wife of Jesus Christ?
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2008, 01:47:10 AM »
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Re: Was Mary Magdalene the wife of Jesus Christ?
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2008, 04:09:11 AM »
may nabasa akong magazine before ,dala ng uncle ko na pari na nasa US...nabasa ko rin yun na si magdalene nga e asawa ni jesus at may 3 silang anak...

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Re: Was Mary Magdalene the wife of Jesus Christ?
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2008, 11:06:52 PM »
ug kinsa kaha ilang anak? if tinuod na nga claim, gubot ang tibuok simbahan sa mga catholics. pasmo ang pope labi na ang mga pari.

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Re: Was Mary Magdalene the wife of Jesus Christ?
« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2008, 01:42:20 AM »
the Gnostic Gospel of Philip "But Christ loved her more than all the disciples and used to kiss her often on the mouth. The rest of the disciples were offended by it and expressed disapproval. They said to him,"Why do you loved her more than all of us? The savior answered and said to them, 'Why do I not love you as I love her?

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« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2008, 02:29:44 AM »
For me it is not important to ponder if not there was any relation between the Blessed Mary Magdalene with the Savior. Our Lord Jesus Christ was and Is God Blessed Forever.

The Creator of All Things transcends anything. His ways are not our ways. And our ways are not His Ways.

Who are we to question his dictates or not.

God be praised forever.

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Re: Was Mary Magdalene the wife of Jesus Christ?
« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2008, 03:07:09 AM »
I don't believe that this is true maybe because I was brought up to believe he didn't have a wife.  And if this is true, why is this not being known to the public especially to the Catholic Church?  It is only wrong if this is true and yet the Catholic Church tried to hide this information from the people.  However, this will not diminish my trust in Him, the son of God and the Saviour of Humanity.  My saviour.

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« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2008, 11:10:45 PM »
I don't believe that this is true maybe because I was brought up to believe he didn't have a wife.  And if this is true, why is this not being known to the public especially to the Catholic Church?  It is only wrong if this is true and yet the Catholic Church tried to hide this information from the people.  However, this will not diminish my trust in Him, the son of God and the Saviour of Humanity.  My saviour.
that's what exactly what the catholic church is afraid of and they are trying to use all the power that they have to hide it. it's still not confirmed and it's still the source of great debate between historians and the church. because if this is true, the whole catholic church will collapse since they are teaching a false religion and they are denying the truth. the priest will also be up in arms because that's what the bases in celibacy.
im a catholic, my parents, grand parents, great great grand parents are devoted catholics and active church leaders. even my parents in law are active in church and religious activities. so there is no reason that i don't believe the teachings of the bible and the church. i could have gone to the seminary to be a priest if i haven't changed my mind in the last minute.
i am very interested to know the truth and facts about these things. if i have just lots of money, i could pursue another career and study history, archeology and forensics then i can start a study of my own and help establish the facts.
another thing that interest me is the difference between the teachings of judaism, orthodox christians and the roman catholic. they said that judaism could be the bases of the roman catholic based on facts and their beliefs.

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Re: Was Mary Magdalene the wife of Jesus Christ?
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2008, 11:19:25 PM »
according to the novel da vinci code, it's true.

Anyone can write a novel and create controversies all for the sake of money and fame.

It's either we believe what the Bible says or what a novel claims.

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« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2008, 11:59:33 PM »
i don't believe in novels because it's fiction. it's like to see is to believe. im just so intrigue with all these things that I am now interested in exploring also but don't have the logistics to do that.

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« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2008, 04:04:02 PM »
Anyone can write a novel and create controversies all for the sake of money and fame.

It's either we believe what the Bible says or what a novel claims.

Mike,

I think you are refering to the novel "The Da vinci Code" as making a controversy. The novel and Mary Magdalene are different stories. The controversy about Jesus and Mary Magdalene will go back to the 3rd century AD. This controversy is found in the Gospel of Phillip.

Long before the scriptures were compiled into one book as the bible there were other Christian sects who wrote the scriptures. One of them is the Gnostic Christians. Their books were discovered in the Egyptian desert town of Nag Hammadi in 1945. Which is why the books are known today as the Nag Hammadi library. These are also part of the apocryphal writings of the bible. The newest discovery is the "Gospel of Judas". If not for this discovery scholars will never know today that there were other Christian sects who wrote about Jesus. 

In the Nag Hammadi library the Gospel of Thomas is given importance to scholars because he is portrayed in the bible as the doubter of the resurrection of Christ. In the Gospel of Thomas the existence of Jesus is only in the hearts and minds of Christian believers. In other words there is no historical Jesus! When their kind of Christianity spread around the Middle East, Ireneous the bishop of France ordered their books to be burned. But there were monks in Egypt who got the idea of saving the manuscripts [called codex] by burying them in the desert sands.

The burning of the Gnostic writings and other apocryphal books of the bible started the Catholic teaching that only the bible [as it is today] compiled by Ireneous is the inspired words of God.

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Re: Was Mary Magdalene the wife of Jesus Christ?
« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2008, 05:45:49 PM »
these are all product of mans inteligence. wa pay ebidensya nga nagminyo si Jesus.

in the rock opera "Jesus Christ Superstar" nag dug o gihapohap ni Mary Magdalene si Jesus. Ang akong buot ipasabut sauna pa duna nay duda ang tawo o ini "spin" lang ang istorya labina kay ang producer sa rock opera usa ka judeo.

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« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2008, 07:01:23 PM »
Way Nada,

Before the splintering of the Catholic Church and the Orthodox Church, both churches existed as one; and one thing that they made sure was the proliferation of a united bible; one that agrees to teaching. Even to this day, the bibles used by both Orthodox Churches as well as Catholic Churches are identical, given the Orthodox bible is written in Cyrillic. However, the texts are the same.

Priests and the ecclesiarchy of both Orthodox and Catholic Churches united all the writings and utilized the ones that were identical and wiped away those that were considered blasphemous.

The bibles that we read today stem from the compilation of writings that the Catholic Church has created; given, protestant bibles are far more simplified. However, the texts that they read were organized and printed and approved by the Roman Catholic Church. Which headed the West. And the Orthodox, headed the East.



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« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2008, 10:11:57 AM »
Way Nada,

Before the splintering of the Catholic Church and the Orthodox Church, both churches existed as one; and one thing that they made sure was the proliferation of a united bible; one that agrees to teaching. Even to this day, the bibles used by both Orthodox Churches as well as Catholic Churches are identical, given the Orthodox bible is written in Cyrillic. However, the texts are the same.

Priests and the ecclesiarchy of both Orthodox and Catholic Churches united all the writings and utilized the ones that were identical and wiped away those that were considered blasphemous.

The bibles that we read today stem from the compilation of writings that the Catholic Church has created; given, protestant bibles are far more simplified. However, the texts that they read were organized and printed and approved by the Roman Catholic Church. Which headed the West. And the Orthodox, headed the East.



Lorenzo,

Yes, I understand what you mean that both the Catholic and Orthodox are one church before but you are missing the point.

My opinion refers to the controversy of the relationship between Jesus and Mary magdalene. Their relationship is written in the Gospel of Phillip. In the book it says that Jesus kissed Mary on the lips but some interpretation portrayed them as husband and wife. But I have a different view in this story that is why I reversed the topic to Thomas who was also a disciple of Jesus but doubt his ressurection. The verses in the bible can be found on John 20:24-29. But is John 20:24-29 written to make us believe about Christ ressurection or are these verses written for the conversion of the Jews who do not believe in Jesus up to this day?

In the Gospel of Thomas it tells us of a different Jesus. It is a Jesus that teaches not of the ressurection but of self knowledge.

For example in the Gospel of Thomas verse 3; Jesus said, "If your leaders say to you, 'Look, the (Father's) imperial rule is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the (Father's) imperial rule is inside you and outside you. When you know yourselves, then you will be known, and you will understand that you are children of the living Father. But if you do not know yourselves, then you live in poverty, and you are the poverty."

Gnosticism believes that Jesus is only in our hearts and minds, like the Jews Gnostics do not believe that Jesus exist historically. Gnostic means gnosis in Greek meaning knowledge. The 4 gospels were written somewhere in the 80 to 100 AD 50 or 70 years after the death of Christ. The Gnostic gospels were written somewhere in the middle of the second to the third century, 220 to 270 years after the death of Christ. So it is very clear that the Gnostic gospels were not written by the apostles but by somebody presumably a greek. How about the 4 gospels... were they written by the apostles? The point here is that in the 3rd century when Christianity was still struggling to be recognized even among them who are the originators of Christianity were arguing who has the right religion.

Religion is always controversial but let me go back to the controvery about Jesus and Mary Magdalene. Since Gnosticism does not believe in the historical Jesus therefore what's the purpose of the author portraying them as lovers? If you continue reading about Mary Magdalene in the Gospel of Phillip you will find out that Mary is a leader or she maybe a pastor in the congregation. My understanding of this controversy about Jesus and Mary Magdalene is that it is written purposely because of theological reason... that a woman can be the head of a church.

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« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2008, 10:20:43 AM »
Way Nada,

I accept and have read your points and your thoughts.

I will acquiesce to the fact that you have a beautiful mind and your thoughts on this matter is eloquently analytical.

However, I will choose to refrain from further analyzing the what ifs and the would bes in this given situation.

I will not, given my imperfections as a lowly man made of dust and to which I SHALL return after death, analyze the life of my Lord and Saviour, Christ Jesus God BLESSED Forever.

In my heart, and in the being of my SOUL I know that Christ Jesus is LORD.

He is The WORD that made everything. Before there was rationalization, He was There. He Was, He IS, and HE WILL BE. Even after all of us are dead.

He is Divine and His Divinity transcends the Humanity.

That is all that I will say about this topic.


Please accept my kind refusal to further go into this topic. For both personal as well as spiritual reasons.



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Re: Was Mary Magdalene the wife of Jesus Christ?
« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2008, 10:41:20 AM »
tama ka lor, way nada hisgotan ang maong topic. what shall we get from this kind of topic? wala, it only add more chaos to our mind that will shatter our belief and faith. i can consider that the devil is really alive and is steering the issue to lead us away from our Lord Jesus!

As if that this peoplec are spinning an issue for an ordinary man or a hollywood star. OMG! 

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« Reply #19 on: September 26, 2008, 12:29:22 PM »
Way Nada,

I accept and have read your points and your thoughts.

I will acquiesce to the fact that you have a beautiful mind and your thoughts on this matter is eloquently analytical.

However, I will choose to refrain from further analyzing the what ifs and the would bes in this given situation.

I will not, given my imperfections as a lowly man made of dust and to which I SHALL return after death, analyze the life of my Lord and Saviour, Christ Jesus God BLESSED Forever.

In my heart, and in the being of my SOUL I know that Christ Jesus is LORD.

He is The WORD that made everything. Before there was rationalization, He was There. He Was, He IS, and HE WILL BE. Even after all of us are dead.

He is Divine and His Divinity transcends the Humanity.

That is all that I will say about this topic.


Please accept my kind refusal to further go into this topic. For both personal as well as spiritual reasons.



Kindly and Respectfully Yours,
Bran Lorenzo

Lorenzo,

Thanks... I appreciate your answer. Hold on to your faith!

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« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2008, 02:41:15 AM »
Lorenzo,

Thanks... I appreciate your answer. Hold on to your faith!

WN

I am elated in your understanding, WN. Amen, I say to you. Hold on to your own faith as well. :)

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« Reply #22 on: October 02, 2008, 08:21:48 AM »
OMG, where are you meyn? from the moon? hehehe!

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« Reply #23 on: October 03, 2008, 01:21:02 AM »
i know she's a saint. but do you know why im asking that question? please refer to this link.
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