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The Creation of Eve
« on: August 11, 2011, 03:45:20 PM »
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Re: The Creation of Eve
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2011, 03:46:37 PM »
"So The Lord God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep; and while he was sleeping, He took one of the man's ribs [also translated took part of the man's side] and closed up the place with flesh. Then The Lord God made a woman from the rib He had taken out of the man, and He brought her to the man. The man said, "This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called 'woman,' for she was taken out of man." For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh."

    -Genesis 2:21-24

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Re: The Creation of Eve
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2011, 03:50:35 PM »

The Eternal Father Creates Eve

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Re: The Creation of Eve
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2011, 12:11:27 PM »
"So The Lord God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep; and while he was sleeping, He took one of the man's ribs [also translated took part of the man's side] and closed up the place with flesh. Then The Lord God made a woman from the rib He had taken out of the man, and He brought her to the man. The man said, "This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called 'woman,' for she was taken out of man." For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh."

    -Genesis 2:21-24

But before Eve was created God already made humans in his own image. In Genesis 1:27 you can read; So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.

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Re: The Creation of Eve
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2011, 12:30:14 AM »
But before Eve was created God already made humans in his own image. In Genesis 1:27 you can read; So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.

In my honest and humble view, Sir, when it is mentioned in Genesis 1:27 that God created man in His own image, Genesis refers to the creation of Adam. Adam was the prototype so to say, the progenitor of the Family of Man. Woman comes from Man, if we refer to the Christian declaration in how Woman came to be. Eve was part of Adam. Genesis 2 reiterates the same message that God created man and woman from His own image.

Since God made Adam out of His own image, and since Eve was created from Adam, then Even shares the relation to God.

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Re: The Creation of Eve
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2011, 12:34:02 AM »
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The Eternal and Living God created Adam literally in the Image of God. God breathed life into Adam, who was created from clay and dirt. The sole reason why God created Eve was to accompany Adam in the Garden of Eden. She (Eve) was created so that she would be the partner of Adam.

Hence, Man and Woman were created for each other.

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Re: The Creation of Eve
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2011, 06:27:02 AM »
In my honest and humble view, Sir, when it is mentioned in Genesis 1:27 that God created man in His own image, Genesis refers to the creation of Adam. Adam was the prototype so to say, the progenitor of the Family of Man. Woman comes from Man, if we refer to the Christian declaration in how Woman came to be. Eve was part of Adam. Genesis 2 reiterates the same message that God created man and woman from His own image.

Since God made Adam out of His own image, and since Eve was created from Adam, then Even shares the relation to God.

Lorenzo,

But is Gen. 1:27 some kind of a contradiction? Because God said; he created them male and female. The verse is categorical.

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Re: The Creation of Eve
« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2011, 09:47:47 AM »
the beginning of what we are on our road to salvation had fascinated me too.  thus i try to read up all i can when i could all the different viewpoints.  some things i paid attention to:

Intellectual humility is a necessity when reading Scripture.

We believe that we must have intellectual humility when reading Scripture.  The great theologian Augustine in the fourth century said this:

God wished difficulties to be scattered through the sacred books inspired by him, in order that we might be urged to read and scrutinize them more intensely, and, experiencing in a salutary manner our own limitations, we might be exercised into submission of mind. (Divino Afflante Spiritu, 45, cf. At. Augustine)

Augustine did not believe that God was making scientific assertions in Genesis, he may or may not be right.  But regardless of whether we agree with his position on Genesis, his point about the difficulties in interpreting Scripture stand. (http://www.davidmacd.com/catholic/catholic_creationism.htm)


Did we literally come from one set of parents, Adam & Eve?

There are many scientific theories that attempt to prove that there was no such thing as one man and one woman at the beginning of humanity.  They theorize that there were a group of people who were our first parents (polygenism).  They claim that Adam and Eve are archetypes for humanity.  When this evolutionary theory began to gain momentum in the 50's, Pope Pious XII made a statement about it in Humani Generis:

When, however, there is question of another conjectural opinion, namely polygenism, the children of the Church by no means enjoy such liberty.  For the faithful cannot embrace that opinion which maintains that either after Adam there existed on this earth true men who did not take their origin through natural generation from him as from the first parent of all, or that Adam represents a certain number of first parents.  Now it is no way apparent how such an opinion can be reconciled with that which the sources of revealed truth and the documents of the Teaching Authority of the Church propose with regard to original sin, which proceeds from a sin actually committed by an individual Adam and which, through generation, is passed on to all and is in everyone as his own. (http://www.davidmacd.com/catholic/catholic_creationism.htm)  

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Re: The Creation of Eve
« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2011, 10:07:18 AM »
Other Thoughts On Adam and Eve As Our First Parents

there are a myriad of interesting blogs on what to make of adam and eve as our first parents.  some of my favorites, admittedly because they are faith-based:

the question:  

As Catholics, are we required to believe that Eve was literally created from Adam in some (miraculously) way? ...and if so, where is this defined?

some answers:

The opposing position (in my mind) would be that this account in Genesis is simply a figure to show that women were created with equal dignity... and not necessarily a literal/historical account.  I really wouldn't have much of an issue accepting it as literal (if it must be so), but I would much rather have the option of not violating fundamental physical laws, if at all possible. (by masterjedi747)

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Christians are required to believe in miracles. Otherwise, how would one explain or believe in the Incarnation or the Resurrection or the Ascension. So a Divine miraculous intervention at the start of the human race should not be excluded. (by Ron Conte)

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Concerning human evolution, the Church has a more definite teaching.  It allows for the possibility that man’s body developed from previous biological forms, under God’s guidance, but it insists on the special creation of his soul.  Pope Pius XII declared that "the teaching authority of the Church does not forbid that, in conformity with the present state of human sciences and sacred theology, research and discussions . . . take place with regard to the doctrine of evolution, in as far as it inquires into the origin of the human body as coming from pre-existent and living matter—but the Catholic faith obliges us to hold that souls are immediately created by God" (Pius XII, Humani Generis 36).  So whether the human body was specially created or developed, we are required to hold as a matter of Catholic faith that the human soul is specially created; it did not evolve, and it is not inherited from our parents, as our bodies are. (by Steadfast love)

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While miracles do happen, when something that may at first appear to be a miracle is explainable by natural forces, it need not be considered a miracle. When so called miracles are attributed to the intercession of a candidate for sainthood and there is a natural explanation, the "miracle" is not accepted as evidence.

There is a problem with some scholars who would try to explain away a true miracle by rather questionable means. For example the miracle of the loaves and fishes being attributed to a crowd deciding to share concealed food.

There are also folks who say because miracles defy the laws of science there can be no such thing as a miracle. However that is the very definition of a miracle, an event or happening that is outside the laws of science, laws which are sometimes confused with the natural law.

One may accept the narrative of the creation of Adam and Eve at face value or that the formation of their physical bodies can be attributed to an evolutionary mechanism of one sort or another.  The Church does not require belief in either explanation. (by rwoehmke)


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Re: The Creation of Eve
« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2011, 02:07:04 PM »
Genesis 2:21 (English Standard Version): So the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man, and while he slept took one of his ribs and closed up its place with flesh.


A light-hearted version of the spare rib issue...





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