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Salvation is NOT based on faith alone
« on: September 23, 2008, 09:28:46 AM »
Salvation through Good Works as well as Faith


What good is it, my brothers, if a man claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save him? Suppose a brother or sister is without clothes and daily food. If one of you says to him, "Go, I wish you well; keep warm and well fed," but does nothing about his physical needs, what good is it? In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.

But someone will say, "You have faith; I have deeds."Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by what I do.

You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder.

You foolish man, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is useless? Was not our ancestor Abraham considered righteous for what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? You see that his faith and his actions were working together, and his faith was made complete by what he did. And the scripture was fulfilled that says, "Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness," and he was called God's friend. You see that a person is justified by what he does and not by faith alone.

In the same way, was not even Rahab the prostitute considered righteous for what she did when she gave lodging to the spies and sent them off in a different direction? As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead.



--John 2


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Re: Salvation is NOT based on faith alone
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2008, 02:51:56 PM »
A lady friend from Dumaguete lost her husband,  I told her my condolence through the telephone and said;
Mag-ampo ´ta  ´Day kay mao man lang ang atong mahimo.
Ang iyang tubag, mag unsa man ang pag-ampo kon walay maayong buhat?

This question is still in my head.

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Re: Salvation is NOT based on faith alone
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2008, 03:49:40 PM »
We were not told to just pray man pod, di ba, Tita Tess?  Syempre, we should couple our prayers with good deeds.  We can't be praying for people to have food on their table and yet we are wasting our food.

Having said that, I think, when you told this lady friend of yours na mag ampo mo, it was for her to have peace of mind and acceptance of what happened to her husband.  Sahay man gud when we are at a loss on how to feel or react on situation, it's better to just pray and let God give us direction.  I bet you prayed for your friend anyhow, right?

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Re: Salvation is NOT based on faith alone
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2008, 06:06:21 PM »
I have a special prayer for a friend 30 days, ( any friend), Our Lady, BVM, promised an indulgence for 3 years if it is  said once and if prayed 30 days, the soul gets the plenary indulgence. I started today for Ms Virgie Blanco (30 days), salamat Tubag  Bohol Forum for giving me the opportunity to know her, an almost friend to me.

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Re: Salvation is NOT based on faith alone
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2008, 07:40:55 PM »
kulang diay ang gibuhat ni Ginoong Jesucristo sa Krus kay nagkinahanglan pa man ta sa atong kaugalingong binuhatan aron ta maluwas. dili diay perfect tong iyang pagpakamatay aron matubus ta gikan sa pagkamakakasala ang tawo. kinsa man ta nga tawo nga makabuhat alang sa atong kaluwasan? ang ato raba nga pagkamatarung trapo nga mahugaw (kanang ginagamit sa mga babaye sa binuwan nga sakit)sa atubangan sa Diyos.


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Re: Salvation is NOT based on faith alone
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2008, 07:43:35 PM »
ang maayong buhat resulta kana sa atong pagkaluwas dili kay magbuhat ta aron ta maluwas

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Re: Salvation is NOT based on faith alone
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2008, 10:31:03 PM »
A mango tree cannot bear a santol fruit.

True faith in the Lord Jesus Christ will always manifest in the daily conduct of that person's life.

Good work is a result of true faith. Ephesians 2:8-9 says it all:

For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast.

Salvation, according to the above verse, is a gift from God. A gift is free. If it is not free, then it is not a gift. A gift can only be considered a gift if and when it is free.

What we need to do is to receive that gift from God by declaring our faith in Christ Jesus, confessing our sins, believing on His death and resurrection, and inviting Him to come to our life as the only Lord and Savior.

Salvation had been completed by Christ in the cross. There is nothing that a man can do in order to earn the grace of God, an unmerited favor from our Creator.

We do good works not in order to be saved but we do good things as our response to God's love in us.

Example, we do good works for our parents not in order to maintain our status as children of our parents, but our good works for them are our response to their love and care for us children.

No good work can satisfy God's requirement for righteousness. Isaiah 64:4-9 says that "All our righteousness is filthy rags" in the eyes of God.

It is only when we put our faith in Christ Jesus that God's requirement for righteousness is being satisfied. What happens when a person puts his faith in Christ is that Christ's own righteousness is imputed in that person so that when God the Father sees that person, it is the righteousness of Christ that the Father sees, not the person's.

A person who is truly saved, though he or she may stumble during his/her lifetime, will always look at Christ as the author of salvation.

But a person cannot use faith as license to do wrong. When such a thing happens, maybe that person does not have a true faith in Christ.

One's faith in Christ is complete; there is nothing that we can add to it to receive eternal life. "For God so loved the world that He sent His begotten Son so that whosoever believes in Him (Jesus) shall not perish, but have everlasting life."

The other thief, the repentant one who was hanging in the cross, put his faith in Christ and declared it "Ginoo, hinumdumi ako kung atua ka na sa imong Paraiso." Jesus honored the thief's faith right there and then and he got eternal salvation on the moment he declared his faith. Jesus said: "Karon dayon mahiuban ka sa akong Paraiso."

Pangutana: Did Christ tell the thief "Pagbuhat una ug matarong aron madala ka sa akong gingharian"?

Anyone who is reading this thread can receive eternal salvation right away if he or she openly declares his / her faith in Christ Jesus. And if that person dies tomorrow or an hour later, that person, as Christ had promised, will live throughout eternity.

Ephesians 2:8-9: For by grace alone that you have been saved, it is a gift of God, not of works, least anyone should boast.

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Re: Salvation is NOT based on faith alone
« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2008, 12:08:57 AM »
Good Morning mga amigo ug amiga,


I agree that it is the Love of Christ Jesus, who was sent from the Father, in order to conquer the power of sin and death that triumphed in this world before his coming. Prophet Jeremiah as well as Prophet Elijah fortold of HIS coming.

As The Lord Jesus Christ, The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world, offered us salvation he specifically reiterated the need to keep to the commandments as well as with traditions as well as in Faith. You cannot have salvation just by completing 50%. It requires 100% of ourselves.

Sacred Scripture Declares:

(James 2:24) - "You see that a man is justified by works, and not by faith alone."

(Matthew 19:1617) - "And behold, one came to Him and said, "Teacher, what good thing shall I do that I may obtain eternal life?" And He said to him, "Why are you asking Me about what is good? There is only One who is good; but if you wish to enter into life, keep the commandments."

God does not want a faith that is empty and hypocritical.  James 2 is talking about those who "say" that they have faith but have no works.  Therefore, people cannot tell if they are true believers or not, because there is no fruit.  That kind of a faith is useless and is not a saving faith.  True faith results in true works. 


Peace be with all of you, my brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus.

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Re: Salvation is NOT based on faith alone
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2008, 12:23:11 AM »
It is not on faith alone that we are given salvation, but through BOTH good works as well as faith. Anyone can say that they have faith in Christ Jesus but in actuality their hearts are far from him. Good works as well as a close and personal observation of scripture and prayer reflects on the individual as a flowering of the grace of the Holy Spirit.

And it has been told to us that it is in Good works and not just on Faith alone does one recieve salvation from the Most High.

There are so many verses in Scripture that declares it so:

Matthew 16:27
"For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works."



Matthew 25:34-46
"Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?
Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal."





Acts 10:35
"But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him."



Romans 2:13
"For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified."



2 Corinthians 5:9-10
"Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him.
For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad."



Ephesians 2:8-10
"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Not of works, lest any man should boast.
For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them."



Titus 1:16
"They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate."



James 1:22
"But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves."



Matthew 5:14-16
"Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.
Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.
Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven."



Matthew 16:27
"For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works."

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Re: Salvation is NOT based on faith alone
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2008, 01:21:08 PM »
We were not told to just pray man pod, di ba, Tita Tess?  Syempre, we should couple our prayers with good deeds.  We can't be praying for people to have food on their table and yet we are wasting our food.

Having said that, I think, when you told this lady friend of yours na mag ampo mo, it was for her to have peace of mind and acceptance of what happened to her husband.  Sahay man gud when we are at a loss on how to feel or react on situation, it's better to just pray and let God give us direction.  I bet you prayed for your friend anyhow, right?


Amen, Ate Ging.

Our Lord, Jesus Christ, Who is God Blessed Forever, has proliferated His message in tradition and good works. The Divine Person in Christ Jesus, is an intrinsic part of God the Father, Who is the Father of the Trinitarian God-Head.

The Holy Prophets of the Old Testament, who were the voices of God unto the people of Israel, were ordained in their ministry by the guidance of Almighty Providence.

Inasmuch as did The Most High make his covenant with Prophet Abraham and his descendants, inasmuch as did The Most High wrote the Ten Commandments on stone for the Prophet Moses after the liberation of the people of Israel from Pharaoh, so has The Almighty willed the continued observation of the Law that he HIMSELF decreed prior to the arrival of HIS Christ.

Verily, my brothers and sisters, has Our Lord Jesus Christ, Who is God Blessed Forever, even reinforces the messages of the VERY Prophets that He sent to the people of Israel beforehand.

Christ Jesus came to reinforce the traditions and the laws that were written of old.

Scripture declares it so:

 14“You are the light of the world. A city set on a hill cannot be hidden;
15 nor does anyone light a lamp and put it under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it gives light to all who are in the house.
16 “Let your light shine before men in such a way that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father who is in heaven.
17 “Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill.
18 “For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished.

19 “Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
20 “For I say to you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven.


--Matthew 5:14-20


He came NOT to abolish the law or the message of the Prophets, but He came to fulfill their message.




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