Author Topic: Religious Differences-- Iâ€™m Righteous and You are Not (Read 4047 times)

Gener · « **on:** July 29, 2009, 03:46:11 PM »

Iâ€™ve read an article posted in a Filipino social networking site written by an individual who abhorred those Catholic believers specifically, OFWs. The author describes Filipinoâ€™s toiling in the foreign land as unworthy considering its down sides which he described as â€œdark and nasty.â€ He further continued that no one better benefit from it (Filipino migration) except the Philippine government who proud itself of being a nation of servants. In so saying that for GMA calling PINAY domestic helpers as SUPERMAIDS, the author said that he is not proud of a nation that promotes glorification of modern day slavery of our women.

From a purely political observation, the author veered on the aspect of religion by criticizing the Catholic faith as a religion of double standards. The author anchored his conclusion by citing inconceivable and unverified data that in a town where he lives, a little more than one hundred PINOYS and among the 21 couples he knew, not one is properly married. â€œI found it obnoxious that on weekends, they attend religious meetingsâ€, quoted by the author referring to these Catholic followers way of living in sin and yet continue to attend religious gatherings.

The author, as I understand his way of writing his piece is more of retaliatory than constructive. Perhaps it is his way of responding to the harsh criticisms he might have read concerning the religion that heâ€™s practicing. However, the authorâ€™s selective approach in presenting facts is of course biased (as expected) in favor of his religious belief.

It is undeniably true that the numbers of physically, sexually and verbally abused PINAY OFWs are growing exponentially and majority of these atrocities happened in the Middle East countries. If I were to used the pretext of the author in condemning these Catholic followers of double standards, whatever conclusion one can derive from the incident of abuses in these countries (Middle East) is as worthy as the authorâ€™s postulating those incident he observed in his town. But who among us is not a sinner? Can anyone claim the authority to cast the first stone to these PINAYS who are adulterers?

When Jesus went to the Mount of Olives, the teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group and said to Jesus.â€ Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. In the law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?â€ They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing Him. But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with His finger. When they kept on questioning Him, He straightened up and said to them, â€œIf any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her.â€ At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left with the woman still standing there. Jesus straightened up and asked her, â€œWoman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?â€ â€œNo one, Sir,â€ she said. â€œThen neither do I condemn you, â€œJesus declared. â€œGo now and sin no more.â€ (John 8:1-11)

What about these Catholic sinners (as what the author implies) practice of attending religious meetings and yet living together as couple without the sanctity of marriage? Let see what Jesus said about this.

While Jesus was having dinner at Matthew's house, many tax collectors and "sinners" came and ate with him and his disciples. When the Pharisees saw this, they asked his disciples, "Why does your teacher eat with tax collectors and 'sinners'?" On hearing this, Jesus said, "It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. But go and learn what this means: 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice. For, I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners." (Mathew 9:10-13)

One should not claim generalization of something even it is based on facts. Facts as it may seem but it doesnâ€™t hold true to conclude that the majority is the same and more importantly, none of us, not even one can claim moral ascendancy to â€œcast the first stoneâ€ towards our fellowmen on the virtue of oneâ€™s religious belief that he is righteous and others are not.

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benelynne · « **Reply #1 on:** July 29, 2009, 04:18:53 PM »

Indeed, Jesus had more issues against the Pharisees--the devout Jews who clung to the hard-and-fast rules of their religion--than against sinners--the adulterers and tax collectors.

It's not religion that will save us, but our relationship to God. I am neither Catholic (used to be) nor Muslim, but I gauge my spirituality on the breadth of my understanding and tolerance for those who express their faith differently.

The last thing I want my faith to do to me is to narrow the scope of my worldview, reject the diversity of people, and forget that I am just a fellow sinner seeking a way out of human depravity. The Cross is my beacon, but the one who died for me there did so not to boost my pride, but to allow me to share in His humility.

Finding myself with nothing else to read in my hotel room, I once read a book on Buddhism. I was amazed that they have teachings such loving one's enemy, compassion for the poor, etc. I think religions should spend more time to find their common moorings rather than amplify their differences.

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simplylee · « **Reply #2 on:** July 29, 2009, 04:37:53 PM »

there is only ONE righteous, who is the JUDGE perfect in HIS essence

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Gener · « **Reply #3 on:** July 29, 2009, 05:32:15 PM »

there is only ONE righteous, who is the JUDGE perfect in HIS essence

AMEN

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fdaray · « **Reply #4 on:** July 30, 2009, 07:52:07 AM »

as it is written, "THERE IS NONE RIGHTEOUS, NOT EVEN ONE;
King James Bible
As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:

American King James Version
As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:

American Standard Version
as it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one;

Douay-Rheims Bible
As it is written: There is not any man just.

Based on the verses above, there is no righteous man. THere is no righteous religion.

HOW DO YOU BECOME RIGHTEOUS
Greetings my friends, today we turned to Philipians 3:1-21.

1. From verse 1-6, The Apostle Paul confronts the teachings of legalistic Jews in the Church at Philipi. The teaching of these Jews was that the believers were not adequately cleansed from their sins, unless they were circumcised.

Even today there are believers who are taught similarly to observe certain do's and donts inorder to obtain their salvation. There are many places of worship that observe strict dress codes, and hair codes, hag codes etc, Woe unto us for our own righteousness is like filthy rags, it is inadequate to save us,Isaiah 64:4-9. The Apostle Paul is not against the law, but rather that the law is fullfilled through placing faith in Jesus. Ephesians 2:8, " For it is by grace you have been saved through faith, and it is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God-not by works, so that no one can boast."

So what Paul affirms here is that righteousness is a gift from God.
Most believers who understand this truth are living victorious and joyous lives in the Lord, those who dont are judgemental, canternkrous and miserable in their lives because no matter what they do it never quite measures up . I pray that we are delievered from legalism to appreciate Gods grace.

2. Verse 7-11Shows as the process by which we become righteous,
(a) Verse 7-8, Forget the past, dont dwell on your past sins, defeats, pains, the promise of God in 1 John 1:9, if we confess our sins He is faithful and just to forgives can not be overturned. 2Cor 5:17, if anyone is in Christ Jesus they are a new creature, the old has passed away, believe it and receive it.

(b) Verse 9, change where you have placed your focus and place it on Jesus, become Christ centered. Compare and contrast the benefit of being in Jesus and the benefit of living in in sin. To be spiritually minded Christ focused is life and peace Romans 8:6.

(c) Verse 10. Develop a great desire, hunger and thirst to know Jesus
by obeying His commands, and doing his will and talking to Him in prayer.John 14:15, Mk 16:15.

3. Verse 12-14, points to us a way by which we become victorious,
(a) verse 12, Although the Apostle Paul is a great man of God with many gifts and the wonder working power of God in his life, Paul observes that in order for him to have victory he observes a golden rule that is humility,
" Not that I have already obtained all this, or have already been made perfect."

The saying are we there yet for Paul is I am not there yet. Today there are many puffed up beleievers who think that they have a geat deal of christian experience and there is nothing else they need, it does not take long before they fall from grace, some are ministers of the Gospel and have fallen from grace because of this attitude.

Our attitude should always be we are still purifying ourselves even as we are pure, for God resisteth the proud and giveth grace to the humble, 2Chronicles 7:14, makes it clear that even nations fail because of this attitude of self-sufficiency.

(b) To live victorious, Paul reminds us in verse 12b, but I press on to take hold of that which Christ Jesus took hold of me. The second principle here is NEVER GIVE UP. be faithful to the Lord always, Gal 6:9, reminds us that we shall reap if we are patient and do not backslide back into our old ways of sin. The story of the testing of faith of Job should encourage us that God is sovereign even when the going is tough.

(c) Pursue your goal passionately, We are not there yet, but we press on towards the mark that has been set for us in Jesus Christ.

4. Verse 18-21. Has some very painful remarks, here Paul observes that there are those in the body of Jesus Christ who abuse the Gospel the message of the cross for their on gains, they are greedy, malicious, envious , their minds are not set on Christ but on earthly things, they bring disrepute to the Gospel and cause many unbelievers to find offence in the Gospel. Jesus was very stu about such people as well in Math 18:6, he prefered that such people , a stone were hang around their neck and they be dumped into the sea.

The true believer should always be aware of these kinds of people, for we shall know them by their fruits and steer clear of them. Math 7:16.
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Lorenzo · « **Reply #5 on:** July 30, 2009, 08:47:08 AM »

First of all, we have to accept the fact that man, despite his accomplishments, his potential, is innately flawed. Sin, is the pervasive root of that flaw.

So by constitutionality, religion, in itself will be flawed. But Faith that is expressed and exponentiated through Religion is perfect, therefore, by that manner of relationship, Man and religion is perfected in through Faith, despite our flawed nature.

In dealing with individuals that manifest a condemning tone, its best to initiate a polite debate, and provide him/her a balanced view. If common decency is not reciprocated by the other party, its best to disengage from the conversation.

In the end, we cannot please everyone. Nor should we ever try to. Stick to the faith. Fight for the faith.

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taga tigbao · « **Reply #6 on:** July 30, 2009, 09:34:06 AM »

pastilan, ang buot diay ipasabot nga kung ang tawo nagbuhat sa dili sakto nga butang dili na diay sija kahatagan ug higajon nga makabag-o sa ijang kaugalingon?

ikaduha, sakto ang nahabutang sa taas nga matud pa sa Ginoo ang laski wa magkinahanglan ug doktor. Ninganhi sija sa kalibutan para pagluwas sa mga makasasala.

ikatulo, kung relihiyon ang istoryahan, among all the religions (Christian denominations and sects), kinsa ang pinakauna ug nahimong tukuranan sa uban pang relihiyon, aber? Kinsa may giingnan sa Ginoo nga "ibabaw ning maong bato itukod ko ang akong simbahan"? kung mobalik na kaha ang Ginoo asa kaha Sija mobalik, sa Ijang tinukod o sa mga nirebelde sa Ijang tinukod?

atong hinuklokan ang tanan.

salamat.

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taga tigbao · « **Reply #7 on:** July 30, 2009, 10:30:36 AM »

I can relate this topic to one of the religious difference between the Catholics and Protestant sects, the belief and veneration of Mama Mary.

Last night, I contemplated on the importance of the role of Mama Mary in the salvation of mankind. I realized that she is not an ordinary woman, nor a special one for she is the most special and the holiest of all woman in the world. Why God has chosen Her to be the mother of His Son? He did not choose Queen Elizabeth or Mother Teresa because Mama Mary has something in Her that is above in any other woman and that is the holiness in Her. She must be the Holiest of all woman for she would bear and rear the Son of God. Am I right?

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #8 on:** July 30, 2009, 11:02:50 AM »

Amen for faith justifies!

Brother Tigbaonon, what you are referring to is the beauty and miraculous testament to the Immaculate Conception of Mary. hehe.

But in all things, we should always keep a leveled mind when discussing and analyzing scripture. The difference in our analysis and some of our Christian brothers lies in the opposing view on the notion of Sola Scriptura.

Most protestants uphold the notion of Sola Scriptura, whereas, Roman Catholics and Christian Orthodox uphold the notion that Faith is based on Scripture in leu with Church Tradition, a tradition which existed centuries prior to the first organized form of the Holy Bible. Which in itself was written to augment and to complement Church Teachings and Tradition.

Protestants uphold a more simplified version of Christianit, even their Protestant Bible is a simplified form, deleting some books within.

What shall we take out of this? : Differences will always be there. Since the Great Scism in the last millenia, and in preceding centuries that erupted in the Protestant Split. Know that we will differ with them in some analytical point of view in some scriptural points, but the differences that we have with each other is far miniscule to the similarities and the General Truths tha we as Christian brethren share with one another.

Let us make an example of ourselves, and shine what it means to be a Roman Catholic. And uphold the Teachings that has been passed on from generation to generation, since the time of Blessed Peter.

The beauty of faith and a pluripotent Church is the fact that we rest in Justification.
We are justified because the Church that we sing in, and put trust in Worship of Christ,
has been in existence for over 2,000 years. Unchanged. In firmament. Some churches are only 10 years old, 20 years, a century or two. But the beauty of Roman Catholicism is that it has remained mostly unchanged, from the foundation to the very present. Till the 2nd coming of The Lord Most High. Jesus Christ.

We are firm and confident, because The Church we sing Glory in, was established by Christ Himself. Peter, given th keys to the first Pontificate. And the Authority to Open and Close the Gates of Heaven are given to him.

No other mortal man has such authority, aside from Peter. And This Authority was given to him by Christ Jesus. Himself.

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #9 on:** July 30, 2009, 11:12:21 AM »

Salvation On High gave the keys to Heaven to Peter. Not to any other Apostle, not to Mary, not to Mary of Magdalene, not to anyone else. But Peter Alone.

Note and read the specific task He gives to Peter, and The Establishment of The Church.
Which lies on the Seat of Peter. The Holy See. The Established Church of Christ.
The Original Christian Church.

: "And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build My Church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give you the keys of the kingdom of Heaven, and whatsoever You shall bind on earth, it shall bound also in heaven: and whatsoever Thou shalt loose on earth,it shall be loosed in Heaven. - MATHEW 16:18 -19

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #10 on:** July 30, 2009, 11:15:46 AM »

Please do note that there is a direct parallel from that verse in Matthew to Isaiah 22:

In the following verse 19, Jesus gives Peter the keys to the kingdom.

"And I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatever you shall bind on earth shall be bound, even in heaven. And whatever you shall loose on earth shall be loosed, even in heaven.â€

This is a direct parallel with the Old Testament Isaiah 22:20-24:

And this shall be in that day: I will call my servant Eliakim, the son of Hilkiah. And I will clothe him with your vestment, and I will strengthen him with your belt, and I will give your authority to his hand. And he shall be like a father to the inhabitants of Jerusalem and to the house of Judah. And I will place the key of the house of David upon his shoulder. And when he opens, no one will close. And when he closes, no one will open. And I will fasten him like a peg in a trustworthy place. And he will be upon a throne of glory in the house of his father. And they will suspend over him all the glory of his fatherâ€™s house: various kinds of vessels and every little article, from the vessels of bowls even to every instrument of music.

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #11 on:** July 30, 2009, 11:17:47 AM »

In John 21:15-17, Jesus directs Peter to feed his sheep.

Then, when they had dined, Jesus said to Simon Peter, â€œSimon, son of John, do you love me more than these?â€ He said to him, â€œYes, Lord, you know that I love you.â€ He said to him, â€œFeed my lambs.â€ He said to him again: â€œSimon, son of John, do you love me?â€ He said to him, â€œYes, Lord, you know that I love you.â€ He said to him, â€œFeed my lambs.â€ He said to him a third time, â€œSimon, son of John, do you love me?â€ Peter was very grieved that he had asked him a third time, â€œDo you love me?â€ And so he said to him: â€œLord, you know all things. You know that I love you.â€ Jesus Christ said to him, â€œFeed my sheep."

Notice that Jesus tells this to Peter three times, the exact number of times that Peter denied him. The fact that Jesus told Peter this, and no other, indicates that Jesus considers Peter to be the leader of His Church on earth, not John, James, or Matthew.

In Luke 22:31-32, Jesus tells Peter that satan wants to sift him like wheat.

â€œAnd the Lord said: â€œSimon, Simon! Behold, Satan has asked for you, so that he may sift you like wheat. But I have prayed for you, so that your faith may not fail, and so that you, once converted, may confirm your brothers.â€

Notice satan didnâ€™t ask for any other apostle to sift. Why? Because satan knows that if he gets the leader, the rest will scatter (remember how the Philistines scattered after David killed Goliath? Remember how the apostles took off after Jesus was captured in the Garden of Gethsemane? (And by the way, Satan is using that exact same method today; using church scandals with the leaders to make the rest of us flee The Church). Jesus then tells Peter that He has prayed for HIM, so that HIS faith will not fail, so that he can be completely converted, and then HE can strengthen the other apostles.

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #12 on:** July 30, 2009, 11:31:16 AM »

Now, let us stop this talk of differences. Lets work on and focus on our Similarities.

That is: The Love of Christ Jesus.

So sing with me!
Let us Bless the Name of The Lord!
~ Blessed be the name Of The Lord!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cyqn2LxKVk&feature=PlayList&p=EEE22A0A356DC838&index=13

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taga tigbao · « **Reply #13 on:** July 30, 2009, 11:55:17 AM »

Im not surprised why everytime other Christian sects "throw stones" to the Catholic Church, the Catholic Church just ignore and keeps silent about the issue. Pastilan. hehehehe

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simplylee · « **Reply #14 on:** July 30, 2009, 06:11:37 PM »

kung naa sa bibliya nga nag ingon kini ang insakto nga reliheyon adto ko magpasakop apan kun wala, maayo pa ang walay reliheyon apan adunay pakig ambitay sa DIYOS pinaagi sa John 3:16, Acts 16:31, John 1:12

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #15 on:** July 31, 2009, 04:03:50 AM »

Im not surprised why everytime other Christian sects "throw stones" to the Catholic Church, the Catholic Church just ignore and keeps silent about the issue. Pastilan. hehehehe

We shouldnt throw stones because none of us are born without sin. None. Aside from the Immaculate Concepction of The Virgin Mary and her son, Our Eternal Living Lord---Jesus Christ. Jesus---who is THE WORD MADE FLESH. THE GREAT MIGHTY I AM.

What does it profit a man or a woman to respond with hateful words and condemnation to one who preaches and professes hate? Nothing.

We---being---Born and baptized in the faith, spirit, and water of salvation, are to uphold the Truth that we have been given through solemn Biblical Study AND the Truths that are reiterated in Church Teachings. Which---BOTH---express the Truth. Salvation On High.

There is a verse in Ephesians that I personally hold on to:

Finally, be strong in the Lord and in the strength of his might. Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the schemes of the devil. For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places. Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand firm. Stand therefore, having fastened on the belt of truth, and having put on the breastplate of righteousness, and, as shoes for your feet, having put on the readiness given by the gospel of peace. In all circumstances take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming darts of the evil one; and take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God, praying at all times in the Spirit, with all prayer and supplication. To that end keep alert with all perseverance, making supplication for all the saints,
â€”Ephesians 6:10-18

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ms da binsi · « **Reply #16 on:** July 31, 2009, 04:17:06 AM »

pastilan, ang buot diay ipasabot nga kung ang tawo nagbuhat sa dili sakto nga butang dili na diay sija kahatagan ug higajon nga makabag-o sa ijang kaugalingon?

ikaduha, sakto ang nahabutang sa taas nga matud pa sa Ginoo ang laski wa magkinahanglan ug doktor. Ninganhi sija sa kalibutan para pagluwas sa mga makasasala.

ikatulo, kung relihiyon ang istoryahan, among all the religions (Christian denominations and sects), kinsa ang pinakauna ug nahimong tukuranan sa uban pang relihiyon, aber? Kinsa may giingnan sa Ginoo nga "ibabaw ning maong bato itukod ko ang akong simbahan"? kung mobalik na kaha ang Ginoo asa kaha Sija mobalik, sa Ijang tinukod o sa mga nirebelde sa Ijang tinukod?

atong hinuklokan ang tanan.

salamat.

i like your opinion Tig! kanang inig balik sa Ginoo asa sha... just love it.

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #17 on:** July 31, 2009, 04:29:28 AM »

kung naa sa bibliya nga nag ingon kini ang insakto nga reliheyon adto ko magpasakop apan kun wala, maayo pa ang walay reliheyon apan adunay pakig ambitay sa DIYOS pinaagi sa John 3:16, Acts 16:31, John 1:12

Ate Lee, it would be far more prudent and opportune for us if this world was a more peaceful place, if religions wouldn't be used as pretext to make war on one another as it has since the continuum of classical human history.

Only if that was the case.

We see this in the current age, the Jihads being waged with one another, etc.
The same is observed a millenia ago in the Chrisian Crusades.

When religion is utilized for a political goal, the consequences are observed.
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In my view, religion is necessary. Many people will disagree, as they have the right to disagree. But the beauty of a firm religion, is the preservation of Faith that is meant to be practiced. Faith that has been observed since the days of the Early Church Fathers.
The very practices of the early christians that practiced their faith in the catacombs of Rome under penalty of Death by the Caesarian Laws.

Through religion, faith is facilitated, observed, exponentiated, and allowed a communal vocal point to express itself, and rise like incense unto the Throne of the Eternal Living God. Faith is protected, preserved, facilitated, and all in all, Justified.

God Bless~

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #18 on:** July 31, 2009, 04:44:53 AM »

Faith is the very motiving force that prompted men of God to build churches, seminaries--places to teach men to become men of God--so that they would teach and preach the Word of God unto the masses. To be dispersed like sheppards unto the sheep that would listen.

Religion, is justified in the Faith. It is perfected in The Faith.
So long as the one who practices has Faith.
You see, religion is a vocal point, a communal forum that the faithful man congregate, to share and express their faith. They communicate and commune because their hearts are filled with joyous exaltation, their soul demands them to sing GLORY to the Lord God. For the soul is created by God.

It will innately want to sing Glory to its Creator and Salvation.

When you go to any church, any Christian Church, and observe the ministries, listen to the teachings, the songs, the voices of the faithful, you can see--not with your eyes---but see with your heart and faith---the rising of the songs and prayers to the Throne of the Eternal Living God.

That is the beauty of Catholic Mass. Whenever I attend and have the honor of singing for my Lord, and to partake of Body and Bread of Life, and in solemn contemplation, also hearing and observing the beautiful prayers that are given to The Lord. The voices that sing the songs to the Lord. And you know, and are justified with such feeling of unexplainable bliss---that indeed, THE LORD's presence is in the Church.

That: Is called the feeling of the Holy Spirit's presence. And it is so powerful. Absolutely powerful.

It breaks any foolish notion of trepedation by others that condemn. It is the breastplate of Faith. The Armor of God.

Glory to Christ Jesus.
Who Was, Who Is, and Who Shall Come.
Amen.

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taga tigbao · « **Reply #19 on:** July 31, 2009, 01:15:43 PM »

kung naa sa bibliya nga nag ingon kini ang insakto nga reliheyon adto ko magpasakop apan kun wala, maayo pa ang walay reliheyon apan adunay pakig ambitay sa DIYOS pinaagi sa John 3:16, Acts 16:31, John 1:12

wa gajud nakabutang sa Bibliya nga laktud nga nag-ingon sa relihiyon. Gisaysay sa Bibliya ang pagtugyan sa Ginoo sa JAWE sa Langit ug ang Ijang Pagtukod sa Ijang Simbahan binilin ni San Pedro (ang unang Santo Papa). Kung imong susihon ang bibliya verbatim wa gajud kay makita nga relihiyon nga laktud giingon sa Ginoo(kung ikaw nangita ug pangan nga specifico sa relihiyon), pero kung MAGREAD BETWEEN THE LINES ka. makita nimo ang tubag sa imong pangutana bay.

Gipangutana sa Ginoo si San Pedro katulo kung gimahal ba nija (San Pedro) ang Ginoo dajon ingon nga pakan-on nija (San Pedro) ang ga karnero sa Ginoo.

pareha ni sa painting ni Leonardo da Vinci nga "The Last Supper". ang gihimo ni Leonardo nga pag paint sa usa ka event nga wa nalaktud pagkasaysay sa bibliya mao ang ijang "living legacy" sa art world.

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taga tigbao · « **Reply #20 on:** July 31, 2009, 01:22:13 PM »

i like your opinion Tig! kanang inig balik sa Ginoo asa sha... just love it.

thanks ms da binsi. just thinking aloud.

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hofelina · « **Reply #21 on:** August 04, 2009, 05:26:14 PM »

Sakit palandongon ang atong mga kaliwat nga Pilipino mapogos molangyaw aron ang pamilya mabulahan ug ang mga anak maka-human sa pagtoon. Sa layong lugar isip nga langyaw unsa man ang atong sandigan kon dili ang atong dakong pagtoo Kaniya. Bisan unsa pa ang biay-biay solod sa atong dughan siya ra ang malig-on nga kadangpanan.God bless.

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glacier_71 · « **Reply #22 on:** August 04, 2009, 10:12:31 PM »

I'm religious, and You are not? === WHO?

T'is modern hypocrisy.

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #23 on:** August 05, 2009, 05:35:05 PM »

hehe, no one is righteous. We are all sinners~ Romans 3:23 "For all have Sinned and Fallen Short of the GLORY OF GOD."

Tho we may be sinners, we are innately drawn to Righteousness ofGOD.
(God is the only one who is RIGHTEOUS)
We are drawn to HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS.

That is why we must hunger and thirst after RIGHTEOUSNESS.

hehehe! JESUS AMEN!

Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.
--Matthew 5:6

What does it mean?
To thirst after righteousness is to desire the testimony of the Holy Ghost. As we read the words of the Holy Scriptures we let our hunger lead us to the meal of righteousness. But our hunger should not be appeased by this. Filled with the facts from the Scriptures we should thirst after the wonderful confirmation of the Spirit. Not until the Holy Spirit testifies to the soul of man is he truly filled by all he has read and felt, and the promise of Jesus is fulfilled.

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Gener · « **Reply #24 on:** August 05, 2009, 06:23:54 PM »

The best mathematical equation I have ever seen:
1 cross + 3 nails= 4 given.

We were called to be witnesses, not lawyers or judges. Instead, don't put a question mark where God put a period. God Himself does not propose to judge a man until he is dead. So why should we? None among us is rightheous, not even one.

For people of other faith maligning others of their faith as sinners, we should all remember that it is easier to preach ten sermons than it is to live one.

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #25 on:** August 05, 2009, 06:38:35 PM »

Absolutely!

No one should condemn. No one should say we are better than the othe.
However, we should try to remind when some things are sins if the Spirit declares you to expound on it. Remember that Scripture is used as a tool to teach and preach, and a tool ot use to build faith and to correct one another. For love of one another.

Most of all, we should always pray for ONE ANOTHER.
That is the best way. For prayer can pierce through the soul.

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Remember guys, even if we are INNATE SINNERS, we must and should always hunger and thirst after RIGHTEOUSNESS.

Christ Preserve US!

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #26 on:** August 05, 2009, 06:40:51 PM »

We may be tempted by sin and the grievance to sin.
Satan may push us with one hand,
BUT REMEMBER!

Christ Jesus is holding us with BOTH hands, the very hands that he was nailed to the cross. OUT OF LOVE OF YOU AND I.

No LOVE can compare to JESUS' CHRIST LOVE.
His LOVE is LOVE SUPREME.
HIS LOVE CALLS US TO HIM.

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #27 on:** August 05, 2009, 06:53:06 PM »

The best mathematical equation I have ever seen:
1 cross + 3 nails= 4 given.

We were called to be witnesses, not lawyers or judges. Instead, don't put a question mark where God put a period. God Himself does not propose to judge a man until he is dead. So why should we? None among us is rightheous, not even one.

For people of other faith maligning others of their faith as sinners, we should all remember that it is easier to preach ten sermons than it is to live one.

Brother Gener,

Your message reminded me of the sermon on hypocrites and Pharisees that the LORD JESUS CHRIST preached about.

It reminded me of the would be stoners of Mary of Magdalene.

"Those of you who have not sinned, MAY cast the first stone."

All the stones dropped. For none were born without sin.

CHRIST JESUS! AMEN!

Instead of condemning others, we should share with them Scriptural Truths (even if the truths and message does hurt them, but Truth is Truth. Christ will Preserve Us despite the protest).

Remember lang. Nothing in life is easy.
Living a Virtuous Life is nevery easy.
Abiding by The WORD is never easy.
For Sin and the devil will always try to injur us. May GOD rebuke him.
But it is up to us to be not only hearer of the WORD but to be DOERS as well.
Even if it is hard, we should be pro-active.
Its not easy, but we have to. Hear and Do.
Do and Hear.

Christ will Preserve Us.
No matter what the obstacle.
And pick us up even if we falter.

Reminds me too of the verse when Jesus was walking on water.
Peter went to the waters as well--and walked on the waters.
But when his faith was tempted by the waters and the storms (referring to the sins of life) his faith was faltered. And he begun to sink.

Here merely said, "LORD SAVE ME!"

Jesus picked him up with HIS hand, and raised him from the waters.

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So when you are having a hard time...
be like PETER
"LORD SAVE ME!"

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glacier_71 · « **Reply #28 on:** August 06, 2009, 09:42:14 AM »

God looks at where your heart is, not where you are.

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bugsay · « **Reply #29 on:** August 06, 2009, 10:59:35 AM »

CHRIST-I-A-N

without CHRIST - I - AM - NOTHING..

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glacier_71 · « **Reply #30 on:** August 06, 2009, 11:01:42 AM »

CHRIST-I-A-N

without CHRIST - I - AM - NOTHING..

kadumdum jud ko ani,bugs, sa recollection namo sa unin pa. hahaha. paborito gamiton kini ni brod.

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