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Re: Bible Study: Tubag Bohol Version
« Reply #320 on: March 16, 2010, 02:36:19 AM »
this teacher negates the very ideals of a forum. grow up, sir.

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Re: Bible Study: Tubag Bohol Version
« Reply #321 on: March 16, 2010, 02:40:38 AM »
The diversification of plants as explained to us in the study of Ecology indicates support to the Bible's specific verse in Genesis Chapter 1 verses 11, 12.,

"Then God said, "Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds." And it was so. The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good. "


This verse in Scripture indicates to us the processes of Herbal Diversification; from the simple Shrubs, mosses, to the more diverse and complex evergreen, grass, wheat etc. Plant species diversification is supported and observed in the reading of Genesis. Since the dawn of creation, the diversification of plant species has been a constant effect; through means of species competition (allelopathy) to maintain specific reproductive measures for species continuation and inhibit competitive species.

The study of Ecology, a core Science in the field of Biology, does legitimize Biblical notion of plant growth.

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Re: Bible Study: Tubag Bohol Version
« Reply #322 on: March 16, 2010, 02:46:53 AM »
We trace our lineage, biblically speaking, to this essential forebear (Adam and Eve) in that genetically speaking, we are all related. Although scientists have long recognised that, despite physical differences, all human populations are genetically similar, the new work concludes that populations from different parts of the world share even more genetic similarities than previously assumed. (Note the relationship between phenotype and genotype). All humans are 99.9 per cent identical and, of that tiny 0.1 per cent difference, 94 per cent of the variation is among individuals from the same populations and only six per cent between individuals from different populations.


yes that includes the apes who has 99.9999% similar to our DNA's.


as you have clarified before, biblical  does that mean let the bible answer it. so does this mean these are all your assumptions and not biblical?


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Re: Bible Study: Tubag Bohol Version
« Reply #323 on: March 16, 2010, 02:51:56 AM »
Before I start, let it be known that All Glory, Honor and Praise belongs to the Lord God.
Through Him, In Him, and For Him, all things have been made.
This study Brings Glory to the Lord.
Essential and Core to this Study is to understand better His Word.
We ask that the Lord Bless and Keep this Study Holy.
In Jesus' Name, I pray. Amen.


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The Bible is clear. The Bible states in very plain and simple language at Genesis 5:4 that "...he (Adam) became father to sons and daughters." Notice the plural "sons" and "daughters."

 His sons, including Cain, would have married their sisters, or nieces. This would sound repulsive to us today, but consider the circumstances back then. It would have been proper at that time, since the Earth's population was relatively sparse, and the human race was to be proliferated according to God's purpose. It was only later that God made the restriction not to marry one's own sister or brother.

We trace our lineage, biblically speaking, to this essential forebear (Adam and Eve) in that genetically speaking, we are all related. Although scientists have long recognised that, despite physical differences, all human populations are genetically similar, the new work concludes that populations from different parts of the world share even more genetic similarities than previously assumed. (Note the relationship between phenotype and genotype). All humans are 99.9 per cent identical and, of that tiny 0.1 per cent difference, 94 per cent of the variation is among individuals from the same populations and only six per cent between individuals from different populations.

The heterozygosity of human populations are transferable. Genetically we are all related, some how and some where. Our ability to interbreed with one another is suggestive and indicative of Biblical Scripture on Adam and Eve.





In addendum to this,

The transfer of genes from a particular population to another population and the exponentiation of that genetic trait through consanguinity (marriage of related peoples) have occured throughout history and manifests to this day in clinical presentation. This is a result of What we call in the medical field/ scientific field as "Founder Effect".

An example of this is the syndrome called: Gaucher's Syndrome or Tay Sach's Disease, which is a GM2 deficiency (Hexosiminidase A deficiency), which results in mutations in Chromosome 15 in the HEXA gene, leading and manifesting in irreperable neurological damage. This is a common disease in peoples of Ashkenazim Descent (Eastern European Jews). This is a highly devasting disease that is common in peoples of Ashkenazim descent due to founder effect; meaning that there was a high level of conanguinity between peoples and the isolation and prevention of pooling in new genes from outside regions (due to strict customs) led to genetic isolation. When Ashkenazim peoples migrated to America, or Israel, and began marrying different peoples, there were manifestations of the disease and this lead to the discovery of the mutation in the HEXA gene in chromsome 15. Which indicates that this was a recessive genetic disease.

Consanguinity is seen in isolated populations in the Indian subcontinent and in some muslim communities where it is common and tribal practice for cousins to marry cousins; as well as seen in some Dutch communities in South Africa. Where the genetic isolate has proliferated throughout time and during the gametogenesis period.

This is how genes are transferred.

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Re: Bible Study: Tubag Bohol Version
« Reply #324 on: March 16, 2010, 02:58:53 AM »
We trace our lineage, biblically speaking, to this essential forebear (Adam and Eve) in that genetically speaking, we are all related. Although scientists have long recognised that, despite physical differences, all human populations are genetically similar, the new work concludes that populations from different parts of the world share even more genetic similarities than previously assumed. (Note the relationship between phenotype and genotype). All humans are 99.9 per cent identical and, of that tiny 0.1 per cent difference, 94 per cent of the variation is among individuals from the same populations and only six per cent between individuals from different populations.


yes that includes the apes who has 99.9999% similar to our DNA's.


as you have clarified before, biblical  does that mean let the bible answer it. so does this mean these are all your assumptions and not biblical?


All creation shares the same universal truth. Which is seen in the process of TT (transcription and translation) of genes. The processesing of RNA to DNA (and the reverse transcriptase abilities) and the transcription into proteins (mature RNA).

Humans are similar in that we all, as a species share 23 pairs of chromsomes; and when it goes through the meiotic/mitotic duplicaiton, becomes 46 pairs of sister chromatids. And then in the meiotic processes, becomes and observes the haploidy (the splitting of diploids to haploids). Thus preparing the species to undergo gametogenesis.

Humans are different from other primates in that we have 23 pairs of chromsomes. Other primates such as chimps, gorillas, orangutans have 24. Thereby implicating a complete difference if genetic variance and thus inable to proliferate. All primates have similar numbers of chromosomes.

(By you saying that chimps have 99.99% of human DNA is in err; rather what scientists and geneticists are saying is that chimps have the same replicative processes as other eukaryotes (humans, being the apex of organogenesis, shares in this due to the eukaryotic universalism of eukaryotic species). It is the same as how humans, apes, and flies share similar homeobox; meaning the universality of the Trinucleotidic base pairs. Leading to the fact that all creation shares similarity in trinucleotidic repeats; and deviation of those repeats leads to mutative manifestations. (frame shift, or deleterious repeats).

Humans, in pathological conditions may have a lacking of one chromosome or deletion of one; particularly in cases of Trisomy 21 (Down Syndrome), which manifests clinically into cardiac deficits, mental retaradation, as well as phenotypic deviation from norm; seen in the presence of simean crease, as well as increased evidence of epicanthal eye folds and susceptibility to develop leukemias and immunological sequelae.



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Re: Bible Study: Tubag Bohol Version
« Reply #325 on: March 16, 2010, 03:14:50 AM »
In addendum to this,

The transfer of genes from a particular population to another population and the exponentiation of that genetic trait through consanguinity (marriage of related peoples) have occured throughout history and manifests to this day in clinical presentation. This is a result of What we call in the medical field/ scientific field as "Founder Effect".

An example of this is the syndrome called: Gaucher's Syndrome or Tay Sach's Disease, which is a GM2 deficiency (Hexosiminidase A deficiency), which results in mutations in Chromosome 15 in the HEXA gene, leading and manifesting in irreperable neurological damage. This is a common disease in peoples of Ashkenazim Descent (Eastern European Jews). This is a highly devasting disease that is common in peoples of Ashkenazim descent due to founder effect; meaning that there was a high level of conanguinity between peoples and the isolation and prevention of pooling in new genes from outside regions (due to strict customs) led to genetic isolation. When Ashkenazim peoples migrated to America, or Israel, and began marrying different peoples, there were manifestations of the disease and this lead to the discovery of the mutation in the HEXA gene in chromsome 15. Which indicates that this was a recessive genetic disease.

Consanguinity is seen in isolated populations in the Indian subcontinent and in some muslim communities where it is common and tribal practice for cousins to marry cousins; as well as seen in some Dutch communities in South Africa. Where the genetic isolate has proliferated throughout time and during the gametogenesis period.

This is how genes are transferred.

However, i would also like to add, that over time, mutative damage can be cleaved due to the ability of the genetic excision base repair to make what was once a 'common genetic disorder' into a corrected form through the span of thousands of years. It is the beauty of human genetic mutation.

Short term, a mutation of a gene can lead to observable symptomatic problems. But OVER time, a subset of that original population will correct said genetic disorders and mutations of a particular chromosome.

Thus we observe the manifestation of phenotypic variance in population groups. :)
(despite overall, genotypic similarity).


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Re: Bible Study: Tubag Bohol Version
« Reply #326 on: March 16, 2010, 09:08:05 AM »
An attempt at reaching a compromise between creationism and evolution? Hmm. This should prove very interesting...

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Re: Bible Study: Tubag Bohol Version
« Reply #327 on: March 16, 2010, 09:42:29 AM »

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« Reply #328 on: March 16, 2010, 01:34:32 PM »
It's gone now, Islander. Salamat sa pag inform. Yeah, the pictures posted were so disgusting!

and thanks for your quick attention, grazie7y, ms da binsi, etc.  (for a while there i thought i was going to have a heart attack.  haaaaay!)  :o

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Re: Bible Study: Tubag Bohol Version
« Reply #329 on: March 16, 2010, 01:38:09 PM »
and thanks for your quick attention, grazie7y, ms da binsi, etc.  (for a while there i thought i was going to have a heart attack.  haaaaay!)  :o


aw, mangadye laman sad mi Miss Isle! hahahahahhaha!

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Re: Bible Study: Tubag Bohol Version
« Reply #330 on: March 16, 2010, 02:00:39 PM »
hahaha! ;D  at least shure ko nga naay motambayayong sa akong pagpanaw.  thanks, tubagbohol.  and thanks, ms da binsi and bai hubag, for calling me ms isle.  class, klasmets.

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Re: Bible Study: Tubag Bohol Version
« Reply #331 on: March 16, 2010, 03:33:48 PM »
hahaha! ;D  at least shure ko nga naay motambayayong sa akong pagpanaw.  thanks, tubagbohol.  and thanks, ms da binsi and bai hubag, for calling me ms isle.  class, klasmets.


bahala unsa pa ka basta nindot jud ang Miss Isle! mo fit sa imo hairdo! hahahha!

OT; unsa gani to tawag ana imong hairdo?  puy-anan sa koto? aw shalan ba oi!

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Re: Bible Study: Tubag Bohol Version
« Reply #332 on: March 16, 2010, 03:45:28 PM »
hehehe.  i have hair fit for karapata.  kuto bites not so damaging.  karapata, whew, morag dracula.  that's what my hair is for.  (takes six months for it to be combed again.  saves me a good number of trips to the beauty parlor, aw, beauty spa diay.) ;D

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Re: Bible Study: Tubag Bohol Version
« Reply #333 on: March 16, 2010, 03:48:50 PM »
kana diay imong feet, ms da binsi, are those for dancing (ice dancing?  figure skating?  ballet?  tango?  lambada?) or are they for kickboxing?  just asking.  mora man god ug makawingig.  kinahanglan wa gyoy magpabuing-bu**** dinha kay, nah! :-X

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Re: Bible Study: Tubag Bohol Version
« Reply #334 on: March 16, 2010, 08:14:18 PM »

bahala unsa pa ka basta nindot jud ang Miss Isle! mo fit sa imo hairdo! hahahha!

OT; unsa gani to tawag ana imong hairdo?  puy-anan sa koto? aw shalan ba oi!

"rasta" reggae look man tali na sya ♥ it..!

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Re: Bible Study: Tubag Bohol Version
« Reply #335 on: March 17, 2010, 04:43:56 AM »
Naa bay Christian Church (Pastor's name or Bro., address and tel #)nga pwede akong mag-email about supporting a missionary diha sa Tagbilaran?  Thanks.

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Re: Bible Study: Tubag Bohol Version
« Reply #336 on: March 17, 2010, 07:54:26 PM »
Matthew 5: 44
But I say to you, love your enemies,
  bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you,
    and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you,
 
45* that you may be sons of your Father in heaven;
        for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good,
              and sends rain on the just and on the unjust.

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Re: Bible Study: Tubag Bohol Version
« Reply #337 on: March 18, 2010, 09:08:46 AM »
then lets start:


MT 23:13 "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the kingdom of heaven in men's faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to.

Ay! La estocada!  :'(

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« Reply #339 on: March 18, 2010, 09:18:54 AM »
Ay! La estocada!  :'(

Ay!  Estocada?  You mean the matador's coup de gras for the bull (or bullfrog in some other version)?  Aray, my apapangig is morag nawingig ni pakyaw!   

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