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« Reply #20 on: June 06, 2008, 01:05:59 PM »
Thank you for your explanation, Anastasio. I really appreciate it.

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« Reply #21 on: June 06, 2008, 11:23:35 PM »
Brothers and sisters here's a spiritual meaning of salt which was taken from (Ezekiel 47:11);

That salt signifies the longing of truth for good, is evident from the signification of salt, as being that longing for good which is of the love of truth; hence salted denotes that in which is this longing. The reason why there must be a longing of truth for good is that this longing is conjunctive of the two; for in so far as truth longs for good, so far it is conjoined with it. The conjunction of truth and good is what is called the heavenly marriage, which is heaven itself with man; and therefore when in Divine worship, and in each and all things of it, there is a longing for this conjunction, heaven is in each and all things there. Thus the Lord is in them. This is signified by the requirement that the incense should be salted. Salt has this signification from its conjunctive nature; for it conjoins all things, and from this gives them relish; salt even conjoins water and oil, which otherwise will not combine.




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Re: Bible Study: Tubag Bohol Version
« Reply #22 on: June 08, 2008, 11:05:33 AM »
Beautifully written, Mr. Brownman. Thank you for your personal interpretation. I personally like your figurative example in describing how salt signifies the truth for good.

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Re: Bible Study: Tubag Bohol Version
« Reply #23 on: June 27, 2008, 12:58:48 PM »
 In 2 Kings 2:8, we read that the waters of the Jordan were parted and Elijah and Elisha crossed over on dry ground. Where are there two more Biblical instances of waters being parted and the people passing over on dry ground?

Please write them.

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« Reply #24 on: June 27, 2008, 05:49:59 PM »
Please write them. [/b]


(1) Exodus 14

This happened when Moses and the Israelites were pursued by the Egyptians and were hemmed in behind them by the marauding army and in front of them by the sea.

 21 Then Moses stretched out his hand over the sea, and all that night the LORD drove the sea back with a strong east wind and turned it into dry land. The waters were divided,

22 and the Israelites went through the sea on dry ground, with a wall of water on their right and on their left.

(2) Joshua 3

This happened when the Israelites led by Joshua, after taking over the helm from Moses who already died, were about to cross to the Promised Land and were given a divine sign that they would defeat the occupants of Canaan.

14 So when the people broke camp to cross the Jordan, the priests carrying the ark of the covenant went ahead of them.

15 Now the Jordan is in flood all during harvest. Yet as soon as the priests who carried the ark reached the Jordan and their feet touched the water's edge,

16 the water from upstream stopped flowing. It piled up in a heap a great distance away, at a town called Adam in the vicinity of Zarethan, while the water flowing down to the Sea of the Arabah (the Salt Sea) was completely cut off. So the people crossed over opposite Jericho.

17 The priests who carried the ark of the covenant of the LORD stood firm on dry ground in the middle of the Jordan, while all Israel passed by until the whole nation had completed the crossing on dry ground.
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Re: Bible Study: Tubag Bohol Version
« Reply #25 on: June 27, 2008, 08:56:26 PM »
guys want to know how to live after this life? you have to study this, not just read but learn how

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« Reply #26 on: June 27, 2008, 09:06:34 PM »
ahaha

i like it Lee!
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Re: Bible Study: Tubag Bohol Version
« Reply #27 on: June 27, 2008, 09:07:50 PM »
mao na among ginabuhat dire ka upat sa usa ka semana

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Re: Bible Study: Tubag Bohol Version
« Reply #28 on: June 27, 2008, 09:10:14 PM »
Lee naa baja koy bible study sa una sa LA pa ko. It lasted for years, akong mga classmates mga bajut, adto mi sa akong apartment mag tipok, dajun naa sad mi pastor mo lead. That was fun and i wish i could find some people here in my town who are interested to do that thing. Mo host jud ko.

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Re: Bible Study: Tubag Bohol Version
« Reply #29 on: June 27, 2008, 09:12:16 PM »
maayo bitaw na dili lang maghisgot ug tinuohan basta kay bible ra jud.

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Re: Bible Study: Tubag Bohol Version
« Reply #30 on: June 27, 2008, 09:35:08 PM »
Mao man jud na ang buttom line ngano nga naay mga reliheyon nga lain2x. ang purpose unta gud para mag tapok kay tun-an ang bibliya.

I considered that group a small church baja! di ba ang church is not a structure? but a group of people, big and small???

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Re: Bible Study: Tubag Bohol Version
« Reply #31 on: June 27, 2008, 09:57:02 PM »
korek ka dyan ms da bins

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Re: Bible Study: Tubag Bohol Version
« Reply #32 on: June 28, 2008, 01:53:46 AM »
Exodus 14[/b]

This happened when Moses and the Israelites were pursued by the Egyptians and were hemmed in behind them by the marauding army and in front of them by the sea.

 21 Then Moses stretched out his hand over the sea, and all that night the LORD drove the sea back with a strong east wind and turned it into dry land. The waters were divided,

22 and the Israelites went through the sea on dry ground, with a wall of water on their right and on their left.

(2) Joshua 3

This happened when the Israelites led by Joshua, after taking over the helm from Moses who already died, were about to cross to the Promised Land and were given a divine sign that they would defeat the occupants of Canaan.

14 So when the people broke camp to cross the Jordan, the priests carrying the ark of the covenant went ahead of them.

15 Now the Jordan is in flood all during harvest. Yet as soon as the priests who carried the ark reached the Jordan and their feet touched the water's edge,

16 the water from upstream stopped flowing. It piled up in a heap a great distance away, at a town called Adam in the vicinity of Zarethan, while the water flowing down to the Sea of the Arabah (the Salt Sea) was completely cut off. So the people crossed over opposite Jericho.

17 The priests who carried the ark of the covenant of the LORD stood firm on dry ground in the middle of the Jordan, while all Israel passed by until the whole nation had completed the crossing on dry ground.


Well answered, Tito Benne. Very thorough.

Lets continue, shall we?

According to Numbers 21:5-9, in what way did the people tempt God? How were they punished for tempting God? Lastly,  What does Paul mean when he says we "tempt the Lord"?



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Re: Bible Study: Tubag Bohol Version
« Reply #33 on: June 28, 2008, 08:47:51 AM »
1. the israelites were always complaining even with God's provisions and blessings, their mental attitude are full of arrogance and sins so they cannot see what God did for them on the previous verses. they were looking at themselves rather than looking on what God did, can do and is doing for them. they spoke against God and they even blame moses for leading them out of slavery from egypt. as their punishment, the Lord sent fiery serpents, many were bitten and died. then the people realized that they sinned against God so the repent and asked moses to intercede
with the Lord, then with God's mercy and faithfulness He give solution to their problem by showing them that looking unto God is the answer not by looking unto themselves. the serpent on the standard is the shadow of what will happen on the cross. by believing what the Lord Jesus Christ has done on the cross gives us life which is eternal.
2. "tempt the Lord" can i ask the passage of the new testament about this.


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Re: Bible Study: Tubag Bohol Version
« Reply #34 on: June 28, 2008, 09:43:04 AM »

Ari ko sa tupad nimo aning klase, kay murag malandagan ta ug dugang. In the New International Version that I read, the word used is "testing" God rather than "tempting"   Him. For example, the command in Deuteronomy 16:6 in the NIV version is "Do not test the LORD your God as you did at Massah."

I think, Dong, it would be advisable if you specify the version or translation of the Bible, as well as the particular text, so that we will have a common point of reference. I sometimes read more than two versions, sometimes Catholic and Protestant versions, just to get more understanding of the text.

I would also like to know which specific New Testament text you're referring to when Paul spoke of "tempting the Lord."

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Re: Bible Study: Tubag Bohol Version
« Reply #35 on: July 01, 2008, 04:25:39 AM »
Numbers 21:5-9 divulges about the complaints of the Hebrews and their ill-contempt for the deliverance the LORD had promised them and had given them from Bondage.

'The people complained against God and Moses, "Why have you brought us up from Egypt to die in this desert, where there is no food or water? We are disgusted with this wretched food!'

In punishment the LORD sent among the people saraph serpents, which bit the people so that many of them died. Then the people came to Moses and said, "We have sinned in complaining against the LORD and you. Pray the LORD to take the serpents from us."

So Moses prayed for the people, and the LORD said to Moses,

"Make a saraph and mount it on a pole, and if anyone who has been bitten looks at it, he will recover."

Moses accordingly made a bronze serpent and mounted it on a pole, and whenever anyone who had been bitten by a serpent looked at the bronze serpent, he recovered.'


In this excerpt, it was the Hebrews that tempted the LORD with their arrogance and their ingratitude. They who were in bondage by Egypt for hundreds of years, whose same prayers rose to the Throne of Divine Mercy like sweet incense to be heard by The Almighty. That the Lord of Hosts sent Moses to be the deliverer of His People. Even after the miracles of the great plagues, even after the appearance of the Whirlwind of Fire that The LORD sent to hold back Pharaoh's charriots, and even after The LORD opened the Red Sea and SWALLOWED Pharaoh's Army at the same time; still the Hebrews would not stop complaining.

One here is reminded that 'tempting' the Lord Your God is by the use of words of arrogance, ingratitude, and sacrilegious actions in reference to the Divine Person.

We are reminded of this in In Deuteronomy 5, through Moses, He had rehearsed to the children of Israel the Ten Commandments. Then, in chapter 6, He told them to "love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your might" (verse 5). He further told them to teach God's ways to their children, fear Him, stay away from other gods, and do "not tempt the LORD your God" (verses 7, 13-14, 16). As Leviticus 26 and Deuteronomy 28 show, God's blessings would flow to them if they were obedient—blessings that include the promise of protection.

And again in another verse;

In Matthew 4, Satan tempts Christ in various ways. At one point, he tries to get Jesus to throw Himself off the roof of the Temple, saying, "For it is written: 'He shall give His angels charge concerning you,' and, 'In their hands they shall bear you up, lest you dash your foot against a stone'" (verse 6). Here Satan twists Psalm 91:11-12, which says, "For He shall give His angels charge over you, to keep you in all your ways. They shall bear you up in their hands, lest you dash your foot against a stone." God is promising protection to His people here, telling us that He will place His angels about us. He is not telling us to attempt to hurt ourselves in a deliberate effort to see if He will come through for us.

This, my brothers and sisters, is the ACT OF TEMPTING the Lord of Hosts. No One should EVER tempt the Lord, to see if the Lord Will Do or Not Do. The LORD wills things to happen because he has already seen the things that are yet to come. And came. As a Christian, all we have to do is BELIEVE and GLORIFY the LORD. Not 'tempt' him or 'test' him. In the grand scheme of things, we are but an insignificant speck in contrast to the Throne of the Divine Mercy. BUT it is in HIS GRACE that he cherishes us and LOVES us absolutely and UNCONDITIONALLY.

We are INSIGNIFICANT yet he LOVES us anyways.

We have NO RIGHT to Tempt the Lord, Our God. Only to Glorify Him. Now and Forever.

When Satan attempts to persuade Christ to jump off a building to prove that He truly is the Son of God, He answers the Devil, "It is written again, 'You shall not tempt the LORD your God'" (Matthew 4:7). Certainly, Jesus knew that God's angels were all about Him, but He also knew not to test God deliberately. Christ was quoting from Deuteronomy 6:16, where hundreds of years earlier, He Himself had said this very same thing to the Israelites. 


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« Reply #36 on: July 02, 2008, 12:07:27 PM »
Let's continue.

Is circumcision necessary for salvation?

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« Reply #37 on: July 03, 2008, 01:13:52 AM »
Salvation from germs ang unsa pa nang mga kagaw2x diha!

Thats all i can say. What has TULI something to do with GOD?

nothing, they only knew then nga ang tuli is a hygiene.

Nag sugod ang Tuli sa mga Jews, as far as i have known and they were not christians...

Jews are just the cleanest people I have ever known in my entire life, dili lang sa ilang genitals but in everything.

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« Reply #38 on: July 03, 2008, 03:00:25 AM »

 Certain men from Jerusalem travel to Antioch and begin teaching that certain believers (Gentiles) must be circumcised in order to receive salvation (Acts 15:1, 5). After Paul and Barnabas discuss and dispute this teaching with those promoting it, they and other church members go to Jerusalem to confer about the issue with the apostles and elders (Acts 15:2, Galatians 2:1-2).

After arriving in Jerusalem Paul and Barnabas privately meet with James, Peter (Cephas) and John about the circumcision question (Galatians 2:4-10). The issue of whether converted Gentiles should be circumcised or not is then discussed with the entire church (Acts 15:6, 12, 22). It is ultimately decided that Gentiles need not be circumcised (Acts 15:19). A letter regarding this decision is delivered to the Gentile Christians in Antioch by a group composed of Paul, Barnabas, Silas and others (Acts 15:22-31).

Circumcision was mandated as a way to delineate which one was God's people. The Hebrews are circumcised because it was mandated by the Almighty as told in the Talmud. Many Christians to this day do this because of cultural and traditional methodology.

It links the relationship of Early Christianity with Jewish practices.

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Re: Re: Bible Study: Tubag Bohol Version
« Reply #39 on: July 03, 2008, 05:39:11 PM »

Hi Belle,

You saved me from a stressful day! Wa jud muot ang TB ug wa ka dire... Sa mga Bible Study ra ba, mas lively ang discussion kung naay mga interjection nga in-ani.



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