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Why Do People in Agony Seem Reluctant to Gratify Themselves?
« on: February 27, 2009, 07:37:34 PM »
let talk about people who are in agony and haggard of being indegent, these kind of people
are tired and hopeless but still they have a seldom effort in order to gratify their family members but di gyud nila kaya ang mamuhay himugaway.

OFWs i guess you have something do this,

Filipinos in Abroad, do you have efforts or in forms of gratuity to heal prolems suffered by our kababayans who are belong to indegent kind of living.
   


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« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2009, 07:59:33 PM »
We do not condone the culture of dependence.  people are poor or even indigents  because of lack of opportunities or simply they are lazy.

I still believe in what Christ said, " Give a man a fish and he will live for one day, teach a man how to fish and he will live for the rest of his life".

Providing opportunities is not  the OFWs role, it is the role of the government.  Like everyone we can just support.

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« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2009, 08:34:44 PM »

believe it or not, i have more than 20 people depending on my small business since more than a decade, imagine if every furtunate OFWs will do the same of what i'm doing now i thought there is no jobless in our country. Fortunate OFWs i hope don't be selfish, share your blissing to our less fortunate kababayans. Remember you can't bring your money or wealth into your tomb, right?

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« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2009, 08:45:59 PM »
Datu, the OFWs are already helping us with their dollars.

OFWs are working abroad for their family. I don't think they have to be guilty of living well. In the first place, that is the fruit of their labor.

If we have very unlucky countrymen, nobody else is responsible but themselves.
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« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2009, 11:35:21 PM »

I agree!

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« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2009, 12:18:12 AM »

i think most OFWs have just enough to support their own family. helping is a good thing. but charity begins at home. what can you give, what you don't have? it think that's why the idea of a cooperative is encouraged in many rural communities to help eliminate poverty and support poor people in their living conditions. or for businessmen, they are encouraged to provide their workers good and just wage and work-related incentives, otherwise, you're not helping them; you're just using them.
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« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2009, 12:28:45 AM »

Well said, Glace!  We should help empower people so they can be self sufficient and not just wait to receive dole out all the times.  And this is through 'cooperativism'.
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« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2009, 12:31:45 AM »
mura ranag if you want to change the world, start with yourself.

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« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2009, 12:38:02 AM »
Akong motto:Help your immediate family first.Kay kung magplano ka ug tabang sa tanan it's very overwhelming mahulog na jud nuon ug mawad an kag gana or bug at na jud paminawon.Di ba ang society nagsugod sa family mao na family ang i prioritize ug una usa ang uban pinisik sa lang ila kay sakit baya na paminawon nga maingnan pud ta sa ato immediate family ug ajo raman ka sa uban namo di.
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« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2009, 12:39:48 AM »
I'm sure alot of OFWs are helping their countrymen in their own little secret way.

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« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2009, 02:27:59 PM »

Bohalana ka jud, Ija-ija Aho-aho.

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« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2009, 03:57:22 PM »
To my experience, OFWs in our place are practicing the "Filipino Mafia" of favoring Filipinos against other nationals. For example there is a bidding, we show that we are fair, but at the end of the day, we secretly grant the tender to the company with a Filipino representative. Also many Filipinos who were involved in HR will show that they are fair during interview of candidates, but at the end, they will hire the Filipino candidates.

I know this is a bad practice, but for a heavenly cause. I am sure those people who are doing this are not only thingking only of themselves but for the smiling families of those they helped.

It is true that many OFW's have spoiled children, grandson or relatives back home because nagsalig sa sweldo ni Daddy or Kuya or lola.

My philosophy is if my money will only spoil my children, I rather throw it to charity. Really, I have trained my kids to avoid extravagance and not to be hooked on material things even at thier young age. My 4 year old if she needs something will ask: "mahal ni siya Pa?" instead of "I want this, buy me this".

There are lots of Yahoo games which children can learn while enjoying like the links below. They will understand business management, trading, importance of customer service, value of time, etc. Also in the virtual world of Fresbo, my kids were able to acquire 4 furnished rooms.

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« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2009, 05:58:58 PM »

i read every answer here from certain TB contributor in this question, but I realize that most of the answers have no sign of effort to provide lives enhancement for the indigents.

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« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2009, 08:52:45 PM »
The title has no bearing to the real topic.  dili nalang ta mag  eninglis ani beh kay tungod sa paningkamot nga eninglison, dili na inoon masabtan..

ok ra man magbinisaya.

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« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2009, 11:27:45 PM »
may pa bitaw ayessa. kay murag lahi ra diay ang pasabot ni datu.

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« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2009, 11:53:26 PM »
re Macky: "mahal ni siya Pa?" instead of "I want this, buy me this".

this really touched me kay ana baja me sa gagmay pa mi! and i do the same to my kids. Murag gikumot akong kasing kasing! kay instead mangayo sila they ask it in a different way. Luoy noh? pero I am very tough to my kids. bisan nag dugo na akong dughan!

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« Reply #16 on: March 01, 2009, 12:02:25 AM »

Hayaan nyo nalang ako dahil hindi ko makag isip ng mabuti dahil sa subrang busy ko, pasinsya kana beautiful Ayessa, i'm greatful to everyone who were remind me about my mistake, i do accept that.

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« Reply #17 on: March 01, 2009, 06:08:33 AM »
Akong pangitaon akong nga post sa una kadtong bag-o pa ang TB kay daghan kog mga ideas and visions nga makatabang sa mga indigent Boholanos.

One of my ideas is to spearhead a group or put some of my hard earned money to organize a group of indigent or un-educated weavers or farmers. Based on my experience, I will teach them how to do trading, marketing. What are the structures of the industry and go for the most profitable channels.

My main objective is to eliminate the middlemen that only exploit our poor farmers. Eliminate those who profited the most with very small effort.

One of my examples of that post are the poor weavers of Antiquera who were most exploited just because they dont know banking and finance, commerce, trading, exporting, even dont know how to read and write.

Local middlemen will approach them and bargain at 2 peso per native basket. Then, the local middlemen goes to Tagbilaran to sell the goods at some hoarder at 4 pesos. The Tagbilaran hoarder sells it to Cebu and from Cebu to Manila, to Hong-Kong. In Hong-kong, it is the melting pot for Asian Exports to Europe and Ameria. The basket sold at 2 pesos is now sold at $1.25 dollar a piece which is 25-30 folds. But this is not the end of my story. The European importer will then import the goods and sells it to retailers at 150% profit margin which covers all operational cost including FOB expenses.

My vision is to help this gifted artisans make thier own export company for their woven baskets, markets it to the world vide the internet and do exports procedure to Europe or country in demand directly, bi-passing/eliminating all middlemen in between.

Moreover, the export will not to go to a Europen Importer, but to a Tubag Bohol member who are based in Europe, who is also a member of the group. So there in Europe itself we also by-pass the middlemen and our goods will be sold directly to retail channels/giftshops and supermarkets. Those TB Members are the ones finding who is in demand for baskets and suggests/deals with the consignee/retailer directly. In turn they earn commission per shipment.

Moreover, management is very important and I will train one of thier members for it, like how to handle cash flow, overheads and expense planning, production pipeline planning, Export procedures, expeditors to contact...etc.

So, I reiterate this idea and hope this could be realized someday with TB Network resources.

If this can not be made during my time, my only wish is that someday my kids will.

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« Reply #18 on: March 01, 2009, 06:20:49 AM »

Maayo kaayo ning planoha nimo Mr. Ferniz ug dako kaayo ni ug ikatabang sa atong mga kaigsoonan.

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« Reply #19 on: March 01, 2009, 07:44:25 AM »
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Mr. Datu Dagohoy,

I think...the answer is a part of your question.

Kitang tanan pobre nga gipakatawo, kinsa gani ang kamao maningkamot,  mabuhi ug malipayon sa iyang kinabuhi.  Di...kadtong mga tawo nga "nag-agulo sa kalisod" dili gjod nila mabati ang kalipay sa kaugalingon tungod ba kaha kay duna silay gibati nga kaugalingon sala tungod sa ilang katapolan, di ba?

Well, on the other hand there are some who are born rich. I hope...i satisfy you with this explanation.



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