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Have our good deeds anything to do with our salvation?
« on: July 08, 2012, 07:14:49 AM »
Have  our good deeds anything to do with our salvation?
"Not of works, lest any man  should boast"(Eph. 2:9)

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Re: Have our good deeds anything to do with our salvation?
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2012, 10:47:28 PM »
Have  our good deeds anything to do with our salvation?
"Not of works, lest any man  should boast"(Eph. 2:9)

Please, Philippines, read the entire verses in Ephesians Chapter 2.

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Re: Have our good deeds anything to do with our salvation?
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2012, 10:50:46 PM »
Have  our good deeds anything to do with our salvation?
"Not of works, lest any man  should boast"(Eph. 2:9)

Read Ephesians Chapter 2 , and you will see the following :

1. Yes, it is through God's Grace Alone, which confers salvation to the believer in Christ
2. It is prescribed already that we follow the foot steps of Christ, and to manifest a living faith, through works.
3. God expects it already !


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Ephesians Chapter 2 verses 3-10

3 All of us also lived among them at one time, gratifying the cravings of our flesh and following its desires and thoughts. Like the rest, we were by nature deserving of wrath. 4 But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, 5 made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions —it is by grace you have been saved. 6 And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus, 7 in order that in the coming ages he might show the incomparable riches of his grace, expressed in his kindness to us in Christ Jesus. 8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith —and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast. 10 For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.

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Re: Have our good deeds anything to do with our salvation?
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2012, 10:51:55 PM »
As what St. James wrote , "Faith without works is dead...." (James 2: 20).





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Re: Have our good deeds anything to do with our salvation?
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2012, 07:08:33 PM »
Dili sa buhat kun dili sa grasya nga gihatag ni Kristo pinaagi sa iyang pag-antus ug kamatayun didtosa Krus. Kun pinaagi pa ug buhat, ipanghambog unta sa naluwas ang ilang kaluwasan.  Gawas pa, wala jud untay maluwas kay pulos man makasasala ang tanan

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Re: Have our good deeds anything to do with our salvation?
« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2012, 03:59:15 AM »
Dili sa buhat kun dili sa grasya nga gihatag ni Kristo pinaagi sa iyang pag-antus ug kamatayun didtosa Krus. Kun pinaagi pa ug buhat, ipanghambog unta sa naluwas ang ilang kaluwasan.  Gawas pa, wala jud untay maluwas kay pulos man makasasala ang tanan

Let us study the concept of salvation in context to Church Teachings regarding Justification, and Grace.

I draw reference from the Catechism of the One, Holy Roman Catholic Church:




1993 Justification establishes cooperation between God's grace and man's freedom. On man's part it is expressed by the assent of faith to the Word of God, which invites him to conversion, and in the cooperation of charity with the prompting of the Holy Spirit who precedes and preserves his assent:

    When God touches man's heart through the illumination of the Holy Spirit, man himself is not inactive while receiving that inspiration, since he could reject it; and yet, without God's grace, he cannot by his own free will move himself toward justice in God's sight.42

1994 Justification is the most excellent work of God's love made manifest in Christ Jesus and granted by the Holy Spirit. It is the opinion of St. Augustine that "the justification of the wicked is a greater work than the creation of heaven and earth," because "heaven and earth will pass away but the salvation and justification of the elect . . . will not pass away."43 He holds also that the justification of sinners surpasses the creation of the angels in justice, in that it bears witness to a greater mercy.

2000 Sanctifying grace is an habitual gift, a stable and supernatural disposition that perfects the soul itself to enable it to live with God, to act by his love. Habitual grace, the permanent disposition to live and act in keeping with God's call, is distinguished from actual graces which refer to God's interventions, whether at the beginning of conversion or in the course of the work of sanctification.

2001 The preparation of man for the reception of grace is already a work of grace. This latter is needed to arouse and sustain our collaboration in justification through faith, and in sanctification through charity. God brings to completion in us what he has begun, "since he who completes his work by cooperating with our will began by working so that we might will it:"50

    Indeed we also work, but we are only collaborating with God who works, for his mercy has gone before us. It has gone before us so that we may be healed, and follows us so that once healed, we may be given life; it goes before us so that we may be called, and follows us so that we may be glorified; it goes before us so that we may live devoutly, and follows us so that we may always live with God: for without him we can do nothing.51

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Re: Have our good deeds anything to do with our salvation?
« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2012, 04:00:16 AM »
Lastly, I would entice others to read what the Catechism of the One, Holy Roman Catholic Church teaches -- and instructs astutely regarding the concept of Christian Holiness:



2012 "We know that in everything God works for good with those who love him . . . For those whom he fore knew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the first-born among many brethren. And those whom he predestined he also called; and those whom he called he also justified; and those whom he justified he also glorified."64

2013 "All Christians in any state or walk of life are called to the fullness of Christian life and to the perfection of charity."65 All are called to holiness: "Be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect."66

    In order to reach this perfection the faithful should use the strength dealt out to them by Christ's gift, so that . . . doing the will of the Father in everything, they may wholeheartedly devote themselves to the glory of God and to the service of their neighbor. Thus the holiness of the People of God will grow in fruitful abundance, as is clearly shown in the history of the Church through the lives of so many saints.67

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Re: Have our good deeds anything to do with our salvation?
« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2012, 04:01:14 AM »
Reference:

THE CATECHISM OF THE ONE, HOLY ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH
http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p3s1c3a2.htm

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Re: Have our good deeds anything to do with our salvation?
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2012, 07:57:51 AM »
Thanks for the additional explanation which makes it clearer for us to understand.

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Re: Have our good deeds anything to do with our salvation?
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2012, 09:46:36 AM »
You're welcome, Mr. Laganson.

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