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« on: September 21, 2013, 04:14:48 PM »
Do you know about the true history of ALLAH?

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« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2013, 04:16:38 PM »
When we study Allah seriously, the important feature to learn is that Allah has quite a fascinating history. In ancient Arabia , during biblical time, many millenniums before Muhammad was born, Allah was worshipped by the desert Bedouins of Arabia. The ancient Arabs associated Allah with the moon which shone clearly in the night sky of the vast and wild desert for most of the year. The reason why Allah was treated as a moon god is not difficult to understand. The Bedouin Arabs had a nomadic life. Living in a harsh, barren, desert–land, devoid of any perennial river for irrigation and incapable of sustaining an agricultural society, the Bedouin Arabs belonged to a pastoral society. They were half-starved anarchic tribes (Rodinson, 2002, p. 17). Their meagre livelihood grossly depended on grazing and tending cattle, conducting frequent raids and plunder on other tribes or on the passing caravans. Rodinson writes that the unruly Arabs vendetta is the pillar of Bedouin society (Rodinson, 2002, p. 14). The Bedouins during those days also had a life of unceasing cycles of plunder and revenge. Day-time travel was nearly impossible due to the unbearable heat of the sun. Most journeys were undertaken at night, on moonlight and beneath a sky bedecked with glittering stars. They marvelled at the exquisitely beautiful night sky with the moon at its centre of beauty. To them the emergence of the graceful moon was the appearance of the king of the night sky. That is why those indigent Bedouin Arabs were so intimately connected with the moon and its phases. Their lives were literally governed by the moon.

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« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2013, 04:16:52 PM »
 To them, the moon was their life-sustainer. They based their primitive calendar on the movement of the moon; their religious and communal ceremonies were all arranged according to the moon’s position and phases. No wonder, that those desert Arabs considered moon as their highest deity—Allah Taalaa–the supreme God. Professor of Arab History, the late, Phillip K. Hitti, writes that the moon-worshipping is principally a pastoral society and the sun-worshiping is chiefly an agricultural society (Hitti, 2002, p. 97). To the Arab Bedouin folks, moon was an absolute holy entity to be worshipped and revered with utmost zeal. After Muhammad forced, at the point of sword, Islam on these desert Arab indigents, these neo-Muslim Bedouins still continued with the practice of their age–old belief that their life was regulated by the moon.

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« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2013, 04:17:12 PM »
 Even today, we find that this obsession with the Arab Bedouin moon is strongly prevalent in Islam. Islam is intimately connected with the moon. All its rituals are based on the sighting of the moon or on the moon calendar. No matter how much Islam advocates that it shuns idolatry or Paganism, it has not shed off its past connection with Paganism and idolatry. The truth is: Islam is still symbolised with the moon, especially the crescent shape. Look at the spires of any mosques; you are bound to witness a dazzling crescent moon, sometimes along with a star as well. Later, I shall provide the historical reason why the star is also a symbol of Islam. To explicate further, look at the symbol of Red Cross in Islamic Paradises. It is, of course, a crescent‑the symbol of Islam, which was the ubiquitous emblem of the moon god of the Arab Pagans. Even the flags of many Islamic countries show either the crescent moon and star together, or the crescent moon alone. Have a look at the national flags of a few Islamic states, such as: Algeria, Pakistan, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan (shows the full moon), Malaysia, Mauritania, Brunei, Turkey…etc. As for idolatry and stone-worshipping, please remember that the holiest object in Islam is the stone of Ka’ba. This stone (or stones—presumably three broken pieces of rocks, as reported by many historians) was also the stone of worship by the Pagan Arabs. Even Muhammad kissed and hugged it in his chest with deep reverence, Caliph Umar did the same and the Muslims are supposed to do this at least once in their life times.

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« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2013, 04:17:42 PM »
Historians believe that the Arabian Allah originated in Syria . The Aramaeans inhabited Syria around 1300 BC. These Syrians used to worship passionately a few deities, the principal among them were the storm-god Hadad; the sky-god Alaha and the goddess Athargatis. The Syrians probably got Allah (in some form of image) from the Sumer in the ancient city of Babylon. According to many historians, Alaha is the Syrian name of Allah (Walker, 2004, p. 20). To them, Allah was a male God, the supreme God, who had three daughters, Allat, Uzza and Manat. The Nabateans, the first-born son of Ismail around Sinai Peninsula, were the first to bring Allah to Arabia from Syria (Walker, 2004, p. 22) The Nabateans probably worshipped Allah in other names as well, such as: Elh and Alh (ibid). Besides Allah, the Nabateans also brought from Syria Hubal, a huge male idol. This Hubal was later placed in the precinct of Ka’ba. Hubal was the greatest of all idols in and around Ka’ba. The massive statue of Hubal was made of red agnate in the form of a man with right hand broken off. The Quraysh received Hubal in this form from Khuzaymah ibn Mudrikah, a Meccan who brought it from Syria . Later, the Quraysh made for it a hand of gold. Hubal stood in front of Ka’ba. The Pagan Quraysh considered Ka’ba for Hubal only (Rodinson, 2002, p. 54). They used divination arrows to determine the legitimacy of a newly born child (ibn al-Kalbi, 1952, p. 23). Many historians believe that Hubal was the physical representation of Allah at Ka’ba.

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« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2013, 04:18:46 PM »
In his youth Muhammad helped with the ritualistic preparations being ardently made for the ceremonial installation of Hubal in Ka’ba (Walker, 2004, p. 42). Muhammad’s biographer, Martin Lings, a Catholic convert to Islam, agrees that Hubal was from Syria (Lings, 1983, p. 5, 11). Arab Historians believe that the mighty Hubal was actually an ancient variation of Allah (Walker, 2004, p. 31). The word (Hubal) is derived from the Semitic word Hu, which means ‘He’ or ‘He is’ with the suffix El, which, of course, is another name for Allah. The deified name of Hubal was ceremoniously invoked by the Quraysh during war cry (ibid). Gradually, the concept of Allah, the God spread all around Arabia . An inscription found in south Arabia bears the name of Allah. Allah is Hallah in the Safa inscription. This was five centuries before Islam. The Arabs used to invoke Allah during times of special peril. This all-powerful Allah gradually became the supreme tribal deity of the Quraysh. Even the holy Qur’an confirms this in verses 6:109, 6:136, 10:22, 31:22,and 31:29 (Hitti, 2002, pp. 100–101). Other names by which Allah was known are: the Babylonian and Assyrian Ilu, the Canaanite El, the Hebrew Elohim and Ilah of central Arabia (Walker, 2004, p. 420).

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« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2013, 04:19:24 PM »
Another name of Allah was Wadd—the moon god which stood at the head of the Minaean Pantheon. Allat, Uzza and Manat were the three daughters of Allah for this Wadd (Hitti, 2002, pp. 97–98).


An additional version of Allah came from Hadramawt in south Arabia . There, Allah was known as Sin, the moon god. A famous south Arabian ancient city was Saba, where the queen of Saba or queen Bilqis ruled. The Sabaeans also worshipped Allah. People there called Allah as Almaqah (Hitti, 2002, p. 60). In the Qur’an we find the reference of queen of Saba in sura 27 (sura an-Naml), where this ancient biblical city is called Sheba and the queen Bilqis is referred simply as queen Sheba . Sabaean religion was based on planetary astral system in which the cult of the moon was prevalent. Invariably, the Sabaeans worshipped Allah as a moon God. However, unlike the Pagan Arabs, they had no clear picture of their Allah and thought Him to be a shapeless, male deity of supreme power. On this deity, Benjamin walker writes:

         A shadowy ineffable deity, Allah was not represented by any image, nor did he enjoy popular cult adoration, as did the lesser gods and goddesses. To distinguish him from the other gods, he was given the title of Allah Taala, ‘God Most High’ (Walker, 2004, p. 42).




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« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2013, 04:19:50 PM »
Besides Allah and other Gods, the Nabateans also worshipped two other gods (probably lesser to Allah), namely; ar-Rahman and ar-Rahim. Both ar-Rahman and ar-Rahim were devoutly worshipped together in conjunction with honor and prestige. The Qur’an, surprisingly, retains the names of these two Pagan deities, though claiming that these two names belong to Allah. The very first sura of the Qur’an (sura Fatiha) mentions these two names, just during the beginning. Furthermore, sura 19 (sura Maryam) is dominated by the names of these two deities.

According to Professor Hitti, the Pagan Nabateans of north Arabia first introduced ar-Rahman and ar-Rahim probably from southern Syria . Later these two names of Pagan gods found their place in the pantheons of South Arabian temples (Hitti, 2002, p. 105). Muhammad’s competitor, Maslama (or Musaylima) preached in the name of ar-Rahman, the south Arabian Allah (Rodinson, 2002, p. 67, 119). This could probably be the reason why Muhammad, later abandoned ar-Rahman and adopted the Allah of the Meccan Pagans as his only God.

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« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2013, 04:21:20 PM »
According to Arab historians, Petra (north Arabia, close to Syria , the home of the Nabateans), had a kind of Ka’ba with Dushara (Dusares), worshipped under the form of a black rectangular stone, at the head of the pantheon (Hitti, 2002, p. 72).

This very short history of Allah is not complete without Jehovah (Yahwa), the Allah of Moses (read the description of Jehovah depicted in a German coin). Islam claims Moses worshipped the same Allah as the Muslims. If the Qur’an is true then simple logic says: Jehovah = Allah.

As per historical records, Jehovah was a desert Allah, simple and austere. His abode was a tent (Hitti, 2002, p. 40). Although the Jews admit that Jehovah is their Lord, the Hebrew Allah, they avoid every mention of it. Jehovah also means: “The great and terrible”, and that is the reason why the Jews refrain from mentioning the name Jehovah (Hughes, 1994, p. 226). Instead, Rabb—Lord, stands in the relative position of the Jehovah (Ibid, p. 141). So, as far as the Qur’an goes, if Jehovah is Allah then He must be the terrible Allah of the Jews.

As for the Jewish Rabb, Muhammad had his version too: his Allah is also known as ar-Rab—the Lord, the Sustainer, the Supreme: ‘Allah is my Lord and your Lord (3:51)’; ‘Our Lord (Rabb) is the Lord (Rabb) of the heavens and the earth (18:14); occupies the place of Hebrew Jehovah (Hughes, 1994, p. 531).

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« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2013, 04:21:41 PM »
 The Bedouin Arabs’ primary concern was with the moon Allah, their supreme deity and His daughters, Allat, Uzza and Manat. As explicated before, the moon is the central religious theme in a pastoral society. The illiterate, half–starved and ill-informed Bedouin Arabs associated the moon with strength, vitality, force, power and everything to do with masculinity. As such, the moon (and Allah) was really a male God; there should be very little doubt on this (you will read more on this later). So, how about the sun? Had the sun any position as god in the Pagan society? The answer is yes. The Bedouins also worshipped a sun god. Its name was Baal. Curiously, the Syrians and the Phoenicians also worshipped Baal—Lord, an idol. It is believed that Baal was worshipped in the days of Prophet Elisha (Hughes, 1004, p. 35). The Egyptians adopted Baal as their Lord (or sun Allah). Baal (see Baal here) was represented as a man with pointed beard and with horned helmet. He was a god of war, sky, storm, fertility and good harvest. In Qur’an we find the mention of Baal when Prophet Elias admonished his people for worshipping Baal (the sun Allah), instead of the moon Allah, the best of creators (37:125). A contradictory version of the sun god is that the sun was a goddess, called Shams (Rodinson, 2002, p. 23). Oddly, there is a sura in the Qur’an (sura 91, a Meccan sura) whose title is Shams or the Sun. Muhammad clearly preferred Shams to Baal, the Egyptian sun god. Not surprisingly though, there is also a sura in the Qur’an titled Qamar or the moon (sura 54, a Meccan sura).

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« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2013, 04:22:36 PM »
 Why Muhammad had a profound dislike for the sun Allah, Baal? The answer is quite simple. The sun is the principal source of an agricultural society. Therefore, it is natural that an agricultural society will adopt the sun Allah, Baal as its principal deity. That was why, Egypt , an agrarian society adopted Baal. Muhammad, who belonged to a pastoral society, was not interested in agriculture (more on this later)—so, why should he bother about Baal? Thus, Baal, the sun Allah was not that popular in Muhammad’s Arabia .

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« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2013, 04:22:46 PM »
 Clearly, the Meccan Pagans were very familiar with their moon Allah (read more on this below). They were so used to their moon Allah that they practiced to divide their offerings of crops to Allah and other idols, like: Ammanas in the Khaulan country (6.136) (ibn Ishaq, 2001, p. 37). It was a customary religious system for the Pagan Arabs that they had practiced for generations. Then Muhammad started preaching, exhorting the Meccan Quraysh to worship Allah only (kind of only Allah’s monotheism). Muhammad had now his own version of Allah, which the Pagan Arabs found very confusing and distressing. He started admonishing them for sharing their crop with other deities besides Allah, Muhammad’s variety of Allah, to be specific. But the Meccan Quraysh were tolerant. They let Muhammad preach whatever he wished. The trouble came when Muhammad wanted to hit the Quraysh’s principal source of revenue, the pilgrimage and the tourism which were closely connected with the visit of their pantheon of many gods and goddesses. The Meccan Pagans even had the images of Abraham, Jesus and Mary—just to attract Christian and Jewish tourists. During Muhammad’s time, according to Phillip Hitti, the eminent Arab historian, Mecca had a colony of Abyssinian Christians (Hitti, 2002, p. 106).

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« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2013, 04:23:08 PM »
Thus Mecca pilgrimage-tourism was a great source of income (Ibid, p. 64). In the beginning, the Meccan Pagans did not want to disrupt severely their flourishing tourism’s attractiveness by creating anarchy with Muhammad’s followers. Despite Muhammad’s harangues and tirades they left him alone. Even the eminent historian al-Tabari admits that Muhammad had very little sufferings from the Meccan Pagans. According to Tabari, Muhammad’s followers were largely young men, some of whom were sons and younger brothers of the leading merchants. Muhammad had very little suffering in the hands of the Quraysh, apart from little annoyance. Abu Talib’s (Muhammad’s uncle) protection had saved Muhammad from personal harassment (Tabari, 1988, p. 6.43).

The main reason for the opposition of Muhammad was the requirement of generosity which would diminish the profit of the greedy Meccan merchants. These merchants also felt that Muhammad was probably threatening their political control of the Meccan affairs. The Quraysh were not particularly hostile to Muhammad until he mentioned their idols. In particular, the rejection of Allat, one of the daughters of Allah, affected the business of Taif merchants (Ibid, pp. 6.42, 43).

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« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2013, 04:24:16 PM »
The daughters of Allah.




We read that the moon Allah was a male deity. Did this Allah have a wife or a female partner?

This question will infuriate many diehard believers of Islam. But historical evidences, especially epigraphical proof is too compelling to reject. From the cuneiform writings of the Sumerian (of Babylon ), it stands out that Allah did have a consort (a wife, perhaps) and her name was Lilith. The conjecture is that Allat was the product of union of Allah and Lilith. Allat resembled Lilith, her mother, who is depicted in the Sumerian epigraphs with two huge breasts and a gigantic vulva. Phillip Hitti, in his authoritative book, History of the Arabs shows the image of Allat in a bronze coin of the Nabateans (Hitti, 2002, p. 86). This image of Allat has the striking resemblance of the goddess Saraswati, the Hindu goddess of learning. It is also possible that the other two daughters of Allah; namely; Uzza and Manat were from Lilith, or possibly from other concubines of Allah. These goddesses are referred to in the Qur’an as the daughters (Satanic verses, 53:19‑20) of Allah. When Muhammad was utterly disappointed with the meager success of his mission, he sought reconciliation with the Pagan Quraysh. He extolled these three daughters of Allah and wanted their exalted blessing. However, Muhammad was quick to recognize his folly and claimed that all Prophets, at times, were inspired by the Satan. Then he cancelled those verses from the Qur’an. Those verses were 15:19‑23. Let us read the verses, as they are currently in the Qur’an:

         015.019

YUSUFALI: And the earth We have spread out (like a carpet); set thereon mountains firm and immovable; and produced therein all kinds of things in due balance.
015.020
YUSUFALI: And We have provided therein means of subsistence,- for you and for those for whose sustenance ye are not responsible.
015.021
YUSUFALI: And there is not a thing but its (sources and) treasures (inexhaustible) are with Us; but We only send down thereof in due and ascertainable measures.
015.022
YUSUFALI: And We send the fecundating winds, then cause the rain to descend from the sky, therewith providing you with water (in abundance), though ye are not the guardians of its stores.
015.023
YUSUFALI: And verily, it is We Who give life, and Who give death: it is We Who remain inheritors (after all else passes away).
   




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« Reply #14 on: September 21, 2013, 04:24:46 PM »
We might wonder: these verses have nothing to do with Allat, Uzza or Manat. How could they be called satanic verses? The answer to this enigma is that these are the latest verses which Muhammad had implanted in the Qur’an after Allah rebuked him for being under the influence of Satan. Muhammad duly complied with Allah’s instruction. He replaced the original verses with these new verses. So what were the original verses?—we might be curious to know.

According to William Montgomery Watt, one of the most distinguished writers of Muhammad’s biography and Islamic history, the original verses of 15:19‑23 ran thus (Watt, 1999, p.21; also see ibn Ishaq, 2001, pp. 165‑166):

    Have you considered Allat and al-‘Uzza
    And Manat, the third, the other?
    Those are the swans exalted;
    Their intercession is expected;
    Their likes are not neglected.]


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« Reply #15 on: September 21, 2013, 04:26:07 PM »
Hisham al-Kalbi, the author, of Kitab al-Asnam (The Book of Idols), writes about these three daughters of Allah:

Allat: She stood in al-Taif. She was more recent than Manah. She was a cubic rock. ‘Attab ibn Malik of the Thaqif was her keeper. They built an edifice over her. The Quraysh and all Arabs used to worship her and name their children after her. She stood on the left side of the present mosque at Taif. Verse 53:19 mentions her. Mughirah ibn Shu’bab destroyed her and burnt her temple to the ground.

Ibn‑Hajar, swearing by Allah said, “By Allat and ‘Uzza and those who in them believe, and by Allah verily He is greater than both” (ibn al–Kalbi, 1952, p. 15).

Uzza: Uzza is more recent than Allat or Manah. The Arabs named their children after her.

Zilim ibn As’ad introduced al–Uzza. She was situated in a valley in Nakhlat called Hurad–to the right of the road from Mecca to al-Iraq, above Dhat-Irq. Zilim built a house over her calling it Buss. People received divine messages there. Children were named—Abd-al-Uzza. She was the greatest among the Quraysh. They used to seek her favors through sacrifice. Muhammad had offered a sacrifice, a white sheep to al-Uzza. The Quraysh circumambulated Ka’ba saying: 

    By Allat and al-Uzza,
    And Manah, the third idol besides
    Verily they are the most exalted females
    Whose intercession is sought.

These verses were abrogated and replaced by verses 53:19–20 and 17:75–76.
Allat, al-Uzza and Manah were called the daughters of Allah.


Manah (alternative spelling of Manat): It was the most ancient idol. The Arabs named their children after it. She was at Qudayd, between Medina and Mecca . They used to sacrifice before her—particularly Aws and Khazraj as well as the inhabitants of Medina and Mecca . At the end of pilgrimage, when about to return home, people would set out to the place of Manah, shave their heads and stay there for a while. The pilgrimage was not complete until they visited Manah.

Manah is mentioned in 53:20. She was the goddess of the Hudhayl and the Khuza’ah. Ali demolished her, took all her treasures and took them to Muhammad—two swords—presented to Manah by al-Harith ibn Abi-Shamir al-Ghaassan, the king of Ghassan. These swords were called Mikhdam and Rasub. Muhammad gave these two swords to Ali. Dhu-al-Faqr was one of these swords. It was the sword of Ali. However, another version of this destruction story says that Ali found these two swords in the temple of al-Fals, the idol of Tayyi (ibn al-Kalbi, 1952, pp. 13–14).


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« Reply #16 on: September 21, 2013, 04:27:09 PM »
Allah frequently changes His residence.



From the very short history of Allah narrated above, we can draw the following conclusions about different versions of Allah. Here is a short list of Allahs (plural!) and their probable places of residences.



The Sumerian Allah: ( Sumer , Babylon ; and then Mecca ).
The Alaha Allah: ( Syria , then Mecca ).
The Elh Allah: ( Syria , then Mecca ).
The Ilah Allah: ( Syria , then Mecca ).
The moon Allah: (south Arabia, then Mecca ).
The sun Allah (Baal): ( Egypt , then probably Mecca ).
The Hubal Allah: ( Syria , then Ka’ba, Mecca ).
The Jehovah Allah: (probably, Palestine , then Mecca ).
Elohim Allah: (central Arabia, then Mecca ).
Ila Allah : (central Arabia, then Mecca ).
The ar-Rahman Allah: (north Arabia, south Arabia, then Mecca ).
The ar-Rahim Allah: ( Yemen , then Mecca ).
Sin Allah: (Hadramawt, then Mecca ).
Hallah Allah: ( Syria , then Mecca ).
Ilu Allah: ( Babylon , Syria and then Mecca ).
El Allah: ( Palestine , then Mecca ).
Wadd Allah: (Minaean, then Mecca ).
Almaqah Allah: (City of Saba , then Mecca ).
Allah Taa’la, the most high Allah: (Ka’ba, Mecca ).

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Re: Do you know about the true history of ALLAH?
« Reply #17 on: September 21, 2013, 04:28:59 PM »
We might be amazed at so many different versions of Allah. But hold on. Does not the Qur’an say that Allah has many names? If fact, the Islamic scholars insist that Allah has ninety-nine names (including Allah, this makes it a century, to be precise). Although we do not find any verses in the Qur’an which specifically spells out this number (ninety-nine), we should not be surprised at so many names (in reality, different versions) of Allah. The only problem is: if we read the Qur’an carefully, cover to cover, several times, we might find many more names of Allah than the ninety-nine as claimed by the Islamist scholars. We should not be amazed if we note that there are around three hundred (yes, three hundred) descriptions of Allah—to be exact.


http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/AbulKasem60530p9.htm

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« Reply #18 on: September 21, 2013, 04:31:22 PM »
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« Reply #19 on: September 21, 2013, 04:39:38 PM »
Besides Allah and other Gods, the Nabateans also worshipped two other gods (probably lesser to Allah), namely; ar-Rahman and ar-Rahim. Both ar-Rahman and ar-Rahim were devoutly worshipped together in conjunction with honor and prestige. The Qur’an, surprisingly, retains the names of these two Pagan deities, though claiming that these two names belong to Allah.

Where do we see the retention of ar-Rahman and ar-Rahim ?


Answer: In the Bismala:

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
"bismi-llāhi r-raḥmāni r-raḥīm"
(In the Name of God, The Most Gracious, the Most Merciful)


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Re: Do you know about the true history of ALLAH?
« Reply #20 on: September 21, 2013, 05:10:33 PM »
isn't allah just the muslim name for god, as god is for english and ginoo is for visayan? :-\

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« Reply #21 on: September 21, 2013, 05:15:34 PM »
Allah was known to the pre-Islamic Arabs; he was one of the Meccan deities.

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« Reply #22 on: September 21, 2013, 05:18:25 PM »
i'd rather look at things more simply and hope that doing so does not go against my own faith.  there are 3 monotheistic religions in the world, each believing in the one true god; god for christianity, allah for islam, and yahweh for judaism.  the difference is in the manner of worship, not in the belief of an almighty creator, who could be one and same regardless of how he is called.

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« Reply #23 on: September 21, 2013, 05:20:49 PM »
isn't allah just the muslim name for god, as god is for english and ginoo is for visayan? :-\

To a degree, yes. In pre-christian Philippines, one of the popular deities that the pagan malays prayed to was Bathala (Batala).

In regards to the Bisayan use of Ginoo, I'm not sure if there is a pagan historical use for the term. Please correct me if i'm wrong, but the word Ginoo is used to refer to Holy Trinity: God the Father, God the Son Jesus Christ and God the Holy Spirit, who proceeds from the Father and the Son.



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Re: Do you know about the true history of ALLAH?
« Reply #24 on: September 21, 2013, 05:22:49 PM »
i'd rather look at things more simply and hope that doing so does not go against my own faith.  there are 3 monotheistic religions in the world, each believing in the one true god; god for christianity, allah for islam, and yahweh for judaism.  the difference is in the manner of worship, not in the belief of an almighty creator, who could be one and same regardless of how he is called.

Indeed. Its just interesting to study the history of the evolution of the name Allah and some practices in the religion that is Islam. It's interesting to see that prior to arrival of Muhammad and his revelations, Allah was already worshiped as a major deity in the Meccan pantheon of deities. In fact, Allah, was considered the physical incarnation of Hubal (Ubal).

It was only when Muhammad conquered Mecca and Medina and massacred the Qureishi, that he instituted the worship of one deity instead of 300. However, he retained the name of Allah, which the patron deity of the Qureishi. He retained the pagan practice of praying around the altar of Hubal (Allah), and thus muslims walk around the kaaba to this day. The site of the kaaba used to be the main altar to the god Hubal (Allah).



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« Reply #25 on: September 21, 2013, 05:24:18 PM »
now it's clearer.  thanks.  the history of islam is just as bloody as the history of christianity, if i may say.

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« Reply #26 on: September 21, 2013, 05:35:35 PM »
Indeed, both religions did have very bloody histories. The climactic , and very unfortunate instances, were the great crusades. Early christian crusaders , too, were guilty of massacring innocents when they arrived in Jerusalem and surrounding districts. Sadly, many of them came to the holy land for wrong reasons, or their reasons were corrupted for fiscal greed. The sad story of the --knights templars -- is an example. In fact, if we study the history of the knights templar, they were , in the end, guilty of idol worship, heresy.

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