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Do you know about the incorruptible corpses of the Saints of the One, Holy, Roman Catholic Church?



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Before, I begin this thread, I would like to say that every human being will die, just as every human being was born into life through their partition from their mother's uterus during physiological delivery, approximately 9 months after their inception.

When a human being undergoes physiological death, the body , which is carbon-based, will begin to decay, decompose, and eventually liquify , until there is nothing left except for for the calcium rich-bones and hard keratin such as the hair, and nails.



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The Process of Decomposition:


To begin with, when your heart stops beating, your body's cells and tissues stop receiving oxygen. Brain cells are the first to die -- usually within three to seven minutes [source: Macnair]. (Bone and skin cells, though, will survive for several days.) Blood begins draining from the capillaries, pooling in lower-lying portions of the body, creating a pale appearance in some places and a darker appearance in others.

About three hours after death, rigor mortis -- a stiffening of muscles -- sets in. Around 12 hours after death, the body will feel cool, and within 24 hours (depending on body fat and external temperatures), it will lose all internal heat in a process called algor mortis. The muscle tissue begins to lose its stiffness after about 36 hours, and within about 72 hours of dying, the body's rigor mortis will subside.

As the cells die, bacteria within the body begin breaking them down. Enzymes in the pancreas cause the organ to digest itself. The body soon takes on a gruesome appearance and smell. Decomposing tissue emits a green substance, as well as gasses such as methane and hydrogen sulfide. The lungs expel fluid through the mouth and nose.

Insects and animals certainly take notice of all this. A human body provides sustenance and a great place for insects to lay eggs. A fly trying to find its way in this crazy, mixed-up world can eat well on a corpse, and then lay up to 300 eggs upon it that will hatch within a day.

Without embalming, the human body will liquify within 2-3 months time and within 5-6 months, there will be nothing left except for bone and hard keratin.

If a person is embalmed, the human body can remain preserved for a minimum of 1-2 years , but after that time period, the formalyn that has been injected into the human circulatory system will eventually undergoe decay and degrade, which will lead to the eventual putrification and liquifcation of the corpse, and within 3-5 years time, there will be nothing left except for bone and hard keratin (hair, nails).


reference: human physiology, pathology, macnair

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1. Decomposition is a Law of Nature


   a. All living entities decompose after their physiological death
      1. prokaryotes
          a. bacteria
          b. eubacteria
          c. parasite
          d. fungi
      2. eukaryotes
          a. reptiles
          b. mammals
          c. plants
          d. insects

Every living thing will decompose as a law of nature:



the decomposition of a deciduous tree


decomposition of a piscivirous fish


a dead bird, after putrification and during liquification phase of decomposition. notice, the skeletal remains begins to make a visual sign.

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The law of nature declares that every living thing will decompose , every cell will break down after physiological death. It is predetermined that the proteins that compose the lipid bilayer of the cell membrane will erode, leading to the release of lysosomal enzymes from the cells, as well as leading to the release of acidic components, as well as leading to the release of endogenic bacteria, which leads to digestion of cellular and tissue processes. This is natural law, and is fact.

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II. Why are the incorruptible corpses of the Saints untouched? Dichotomy of Natural Law and Divine Law

The bodies of some incorruptible Saints is a living testament of how Natural Law can be bypassed. There are prolific amounts of bodies of the Saints that have been preserved through the ages , though they were never embalmed at all, and have not experienced decomposition, putrification, and liquifcation.

How is this possible?

Why is it that an entire organism's body has evaded decomposition , as if the very cell membranes did not break down, as if the bacteria within their own bodies did not take advantage of the decay and consume the cellular components. The very presence of the incorruptible bodies of the saints is a living testament to the dichotomy between Natural Law and Divine Law.

The preservation of some of the bodies of the Saints is by God's Will, who deigned it that even nature, which is His creation, not follow its own law so as to show testament of His presence and of the faith of His saints.

 

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St. Bernadette of Lourdes


Died: 1879

St. Bernadette was not embalmed, and was buried in full religious regalia. Her body was completely preserved, defying natural law of decomposition. She has been dead 133 years. It is noted that the rosary that she was buried with has rusted , however, her own skin has not even been touched by bacteria, fungus, or any other pathogens.




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St. Pio of Pietrelcina (Padre Pio)




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Science has always been side by side with faith when it comes to explaining mystical phenomenons and miracles in the catholic church. Fact is, the more atheist the scientist, the more the Church employ them in various investigations. This is done so that there will be no bias when it comes to results. In cases of miracles, medical scientists are asked to explain any specific and detail explanation of such occurrence. Only when science cannot render any rational and valid scientific explanation does the church explain events as supernatural in origin.

With the case of the Incorrupt Bodies, many scientists has already investigated and examined the said bodies. Most if not all, the bodies of the saints’ incorruptibility were documented and declared as “unexp[lainable”. Like in the case of some incorrupt bodies that has been found in moist and flooded grounds, these bodies should have been decomposed immediately but the mysterious thing is, the body’s integrity remains intact and undefiled.

When a human body dies, it undergoes eight verifiable signs and symptoms of death. They are:

- Ceasing breathing
- The body no longer metabolizes
- No pulse
- Pallor mortis (paleness which happens in the 15–120 minutes after death)
- Livor mortis (a settling of the blood in the lower (dependent) portion of the body)
- Algor mortis (the reduction in body temperature following death. This is generally a steady decline until matching ambient temperature)
- Rigor mortis (the limbs of the corpse become stiff (Latin rigor) and difficult to move or manipulate)
- Decomposition (the reduction into simpler forms of matter, accompanied by a strong, unpleasant odor).


From these signs and symptoms, 5 are the most commonly defied laws in the incorrupt bodies

Pallor mortis in the Incorruptible bodies as sometimes absent. In the case of some saints, the bodies appear fresh, rosy and seemingly just sleeping.

Livor mortis also is defied in the Incorruptibles wherein most of the blood and body fluids that should have been settled on the dependent part of the body is absent. In fact, in some Incorrupt bodies, uncoagulated blood is still flowing from wounds, fluids exudating and oils being excreted from the skin.

Absence of Algor Mortis has also been reported in some incorrupt bodies. The bodies were still warm at the instant of the discovery despite and in spite of several years of being dead.

One of the most extraordinary characteristics of most, if not all Incorruptibles is the absence of Rigor Mortis or the stiffness of the body. When the body dies, muscle contracts because of lack of oxygen. Yet the Incorruptibles has supernaturally maintained the flexibility of limbs after years of being deceased. Most notable examples are the bodies of St. Bernadette Soubirous and St. Catherine Laboure, both visionaries of separate two apparitions in France. Their bodies, up to this day is still soft to the touch and flexible.

And last natural signs of bodily death that is defied by the incorruptibles is the decomposition. In a decomposing body, unpleasant odor often accompanies the body. But in the Incorruptibles, odor of flowers, mostly roses are evident to the sensation as witnessed and testified by some people present during the death, after the death and after the body is exhumed. In fact, some bodies up to this day if not odorless, still manifests a pleasant odor, contrary to the normal rotting odor that a common human body is capable of. This separate Mystical phenomenon which always accompany the incorruptibles is said to be the “Odor of Sanctity” where in the pureness and holiness of the soul of the saint is physically manifested through sweet scents of flowers and unearthly pleasant aroma.


http://bluepanjeet.net/2010/08/09/6810/phenomenon-incorrupt-bodies-saints-incorruptibles/

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Incorruptibility is a Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox belief that supernatural (or Godly) intervention allows some human bodies (specifically saints) to avoid the normal process of decomposition after death as a sign of their holiness. Bodies that reportedly undergo little or no decomposition, or delayed decomposition, are sometimes referred to as incorrupt or incorruptible.

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Incorruptibility is a Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox belief that supernatural (or Godly) intervention allows some human bodies (specifically saints) to avoid the normal process of decomposition after death as a sign of their holiness. Bodies that reportedly undergo little or no decomposition, or delayed decomposition, are sometimes referred to as incorrupt or incorruptible.

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