Author Topic: Do you believe there can be peace between Israel and Palestine? (Read 27299 times)

hubag bohol · « **Reply #40 on:** June 18, 2010, 09:45:53 AM »

hehehe...ang baki sa atua akong gipasabot ug danlakan ba pod kay sige man humol.....
atot, baki nga nag swimsuit...maka provide ba kaha'g hulagway akong migo Hubs ana?

nagpaabot,
Bugsay

He he, dia ra diay ang partner...

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hubag bohol · « **Reply #41 on:** June 18, 2010, 09:46:56 AM »

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...naa man dayon!!

He he, basta baki ang hisgotan... Crua-crua!

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bugsay · « **Reply #42 on:** June 18, 2010, 09:47:17 AM »

He he, dia ra diay ang partner...

classmate ni sila? bwahahahhaha

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bugsay · « **Reply #43 on:** June 18, 2010, 09:48:59 AM »

murag daghan man tingale pa ka'g gi reserved diha?

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hubag bohol · « **Reply #44 on:** June 18, 2010, 09:51:07 AM »

murag daghan man tingale pa ka'g gi reserved diha?

Naay daghang andam. Labi na tong mga panahon nga dili ko kasulod sa website. Nag-ipon ko. Stockpiling of weapons, sama sa gibuhat sa antagonists sa Middle East...

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hubag bohol · « **Reply #45 on:** June 18, 2010, 09:52:07 AM »

classmate ni sila? bwahahahhaha

Bwahaha! Patay kang Ms. Isle...

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bugsay · « **Reply #46 on:** June 18, 2010, 09:53:53 AM »

Naay daghang andam. Labi na tong mga panahon nga dili ko kasulod sa website. Nag-ipon ko. Stockpiling of weapons, sama sa gibuhat sa antagonists sa Middle East...

bitaw, balik tas topic...sa imong kabahin naa pakahay kalinaw?
uns akahay hinungdan nga mura man ni silag iring ug iro?

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bugsay · « **Reply #47 on:** June 18, 2010, 09:56:07 AM »

Bwahaha! Patay kang Ms. Isle...

bwhahahaha..atot uy, nganong naapil na man si ms isles ani?
hadlok ra ba ko ato kay isog ug taas ang tango....
pero ganahan kong mobasa sa iyang mga punto...
labi na'g mauy molatos, mobunal, mobangag, mowitik ug molapdos....hehehe...malingaw ko

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hubag bohol · « **Reply #48 on:** June 18, 2010, 10:00:09 AM »

bitaw, balik tas topic...sa imong kabahin naa pakahay kalinaw?
uns akahay hinungdan nga mura man ni silag iring ug iro?

Not impossible, but highly improbable.

Pero dili na lang ko moantog bahin sa hinungdan kay basin mabungol na pud tas lecture, bwahaha!

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buwadsanga · « **Reply #49 on:** June 18, 2010, 10:00:10 AM »

dili mangud mo inum ug vino ning mga muslim arabs mao nga lisud estoryahon. No in our lifetime!

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hubag bohol · « **Reply #50 on:** June 18, 2010, 10:03:07 AM »

bwhahahaha..atot uy, nganong naapil na man si ms isles ani?
hadlok ra ba ko ato kay isog ug taas ang tango....
pero ganahan kong mobasa sa iyang mga punto...
labi na'g mauy molatos, mobunal, mobangag, mowitik ug molapdos....hehehe...malingaw ko

He he, si Ms. Isle ra man gud ang nilahutay og tubay sa diskusyon diri...

Bitaw, lisod kon molapdos, labi na kon tinadtarang kaguran ang gamiton! Bwahaha!

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bugsay · « **Reply #51 on:** June 18, 2010, 10:07:42 AM »

Not impossible, but highly improbable.

Pero dili na lang ko moantog bahin sa hinungdan kay basin mabungol na pud tas lecture, bwahaha!

bwhahahahaha......lihay pas halwan ay....

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ms da binsi · « **Reply #52 on:** June 18, 2010, 10:28:13 AM »

dili mangud mo inum ug vino ning mga muslim arabs mao nga lisud estoryahon. No in our lifetime!

dili bitaw na sila mo inom kay HASHISH ra na ilaha. ang mga first class pa jud gikan sa ilang field! hahaha!;D

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ms da binsi · « **Reply #53 on:** June 18, 2010, 10:29:35 AM »

Not impossible, but highly improbable.

Pero dili na lang ko moantog bahin sa hinungdan kay basin mabungol na pud tas lecture, bwahaha!

nindot raman nang lecture basta sex education sus mag banganga jud ko ana pero aside ana, pwera nalanng!! mag gamit na laman ko ug EARPLUGS! hahahhah!

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hubag bohol · « **Reply #54 on:** June 18, 2010, 10:41:24 AM »

nindot raman nang lecture basta sex education sus mag banganga jud ko ana pero aside ana, pwera nalanng!! mag gamit na laman ko ug EARPLUGS! hahahhah!

He he, bitaw, kon gusto kong makat-on ani nga subject, mangita na lang kog source nga kasaligan ang logic unya limpyo ang grammar ug spelling!

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islander · « **Reply #55 on:** June 18, 2010, 10:36:20 PM »

bwhahahaha..atot uy, nganong naapil na man si ms isles ani?
hadlok ra ba ko ato kay isog ug taas ang tango....
pero ganahan kong mobasa sa iyang mga punto...
labi na'g mauy molatos, mobunal, mobangag, mowitik ug molapdos....hehehe...malingaw ko

ms isles is sweet (ako na). salamat nga malingaw diay ka, bai bugs.

p.s. apila nga mamaak, manutho, ug manipnga sad ko kun magkalisod.

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islander · « **Reply #56 on:** June 18, 2010, 10:47:09 PM »

He he, si Ms. Isle ra man gud ang nilahutay og tubay sa diskusyon diri...

Bitaw, lisod kon molapdos, labi na kon tinadtarang kaguran ang gamiton! Bwahaha!

my fault. nasujop nga wa kabantay. kapoy sad baya ning magpalupad ta ug kaguran.

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bugsay · « **Reply #57 on:** June 18, 2010, 10:48:45 PM »

ms isles is sweet (ako na). salamat nga malingaw diay ka, bai bugs.

p.s. apila nga mamaak, manutho, ug manipnga sad ko kun magkalisod.

way lana nga gi dihog sa akong gisulti....labi na pod nga way kaguran nga gihapak...hehehe
tinuod to ms isles..

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islander · « **Reply #58 on:** June 18, 2010, 10:50:11 PM »

nindot raman nang lecture basta sex education sus mag banganga jud ko ana pero aside ana, pwera nalanng!! mag gamit na laman ko ug EARPLUGS! hahahhah!

attagirl! maayo ka pa, earplugs ray solution. ako mantinir na lang intawon ug bungog.

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islander · « **Reply #59 on:** June 18, 2010, 10:57:42 PM »

way lana nga gi dihog sa akong gisulti....labi na pod nga way kaguran nga gihapak...hehehe
tinuod to ms isles..

hehe, nituo ko, bai bugs, kay tanang lana akong gihakop karong panahona, morag si bai hubs nga nag-stockpile ug mga hulagway sa inyong paboritong mascot.

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bugsay · « **Reply #60 on:** June 18, 2010, 11:02:52 PM »

hehe, nituo ko, bai bugs, kay tanang lana akong gihakop karong panahona, morag si bai hubs nga nag-stockpile ug mga hulagway sa inyong paboritong mascot.

bwahahahahaha...
bilib bitaw ko'ng bai Hubag, unahan gani nimog hisgot sa iyang paboritong super-cute animal, moingon dayon "dia ra ay!"...hehehe

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islander · « **Reply #61 on:** June 18, 2010, 11:47:33 PM »

bitaw, balik tas topic...sa imong kabahin naa pakahay kalinaw?
uns akahay hinungdan nga mura man ni silag iring ug iro?

magpatuga na lang kog tubag nimo bai bugs, ha? sige lang god ug di ako ang imong gipangutana... ari na lang ko sa sayon istoryahan kay sa bungbong nga bungol pa sa baki nga nalumos.

a hypothetical situation:

ikaw, bugsay, kaliwat ug immigrants sa amerika. naningkamot, niasenso, nakapalit ug yuta, balay, uma, kompleto ang titulo sa tanan, apil pa ang kabilin sa imong lolo nga nag-una nimo.

ako, islander, kaliwat ug amerikano nga nilayas sa amerika kaniadto kay gitaboy, gidaogdaog. gidaogdaog pa gyod ug samot sa mga nasod diin ako nahidagsa. pero kuwartahan ko ug daghan pa gyod ang malooy nako kay nakonsensya sa unsay akong gidangatan.

ako, nibalik sa amerika kay amerikana lagi gyod ko ug gikapoy na gyod tawon ko ug laroylaroy nga way nasod nga matawag nga akoa.

ikaw, nga nakaturok na sa amerika gipapadaplin sigon sa akong mando. gi-backhoe imong balay, ang imong yuta akong gibalayan, ako ang nagbuot kon asa ra ka dapit makapuyo, di ka makaadto sa imong uma kon di ka mangayo ug permiso nako.

ako, mobuhat aning tanan kay naay neighborhood bully nga andam nga motabang nako kanunay. ngano? kay nakatabang ug dako ang akong kaparyentihan sa iyang pag-asenso.

di na importante ang mga detalye, sama sa mga iro sa akong silingan nga ginganlan ug hadrian, nero, ug caligula.

na, hala, ingnon na lang nato nga ikaw bugsay maoy palestinian ug ako islander maoy israeli. guerra patani gyod ta, mangamungi kon mangamungi.

p.s. mahimo sad ug ani nga thread nga ako ang iring ug si baby boy lorenzo ang iro, or vice versa.

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ms da binsi · « **Reply #62 on:** June 19, 2010, 12:12:02 AM »

magpatuga na lang kog tubag nimo bai bugs, ha? sige lang god ug di ako ang imong gipangutana... ari na lang ko sa sayon istoryahan kay sa bungbong nga bungol pa sa baki nga nalumos.

a hypothetical situation:

ikaw, bugsay, kaliwat ug immigrants sa amerika. naningkamot, niasenso, nakapalit ug yuta, balay, uma, kompleto ang titulo sa tanan, apil pa ang kabilin sa imong lolo nga nag-una nimo.

ako, islander, kaliwat ug amerikano nga nilayas sa amerika kaniadto kay gitaboy, gidaogdaog. gidaogdaog pa gyod ug samot sa mga nasod diin ako nahidagsa. pero kuwartahan ko ug daghan pa gyod ang malooy nako kay nakonsensya sa unsay akong gidangatan.

ako, nibalik sa amerika kay amerikana lagi gyod ko ug gikapoy na gyod tawon ko ug laroylaroy nga way nasod nga matawag nga akoa.

ikaw, nga nakaturok na sa amerika gipapadaplin sigon sa akong mando. gi-backhoe imong balay, ang imong yuta akong gibalayan, ako ang nagbuot kon asa ra ka dapit makapuyo, di ka makaadto sa imong uma kon di ka mangayo ug permiso nako.

ako, mobuhat aning tanan kay naay neighborhood bully nga andam nga motabang nako kanunay. ngano? kay nakatabang ug dako ang akong kaparyentihan sa iyang pag-asenso.

di na importante ang mga detalye, sama sa mga iro sa akong silingan nga ginganlan ug hadrian, nero, ug caligula.

na, hala, ingnon na lang nato nga ikaw bugsay maoy palestinian ug ako islander maoy israeli. guerra patani gyod ta, mangamungi kon mangamungi.

p.s. mahimo sad ug ani nga thread nga ako ang iring ug si baby boy lorenzo ang iro, or vice versa.

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bugsay · « **Reply #63 on:** June 19, 2010, 12:21:55 AM »

magpatuga na lang kog tubag nimo bai bugs, ha? sige lang god ug di ako ang imong gipangutana... ari na lang ko sa sayon istoryahan kay sa bungbong nga bungol pa sa baki nga nalumos.

a hypothetical situation:

ikaw, bugsay, kaliwat ug immigrants sa amerika. naningkamot, niasenso, nakapalit ug yuta, balay, uma, kompleto ang titulo sa tanan, apil pa ang kabilin sa imong lolo nga nag-una nimo.

ako, islander, kaliwat ug amerikano nga nilayas sa amerika kaniadto kay gitaboy, gidaogdaog. gidaogdaog pa gyod ug samot sa mga nasod diin ako nahidagsa. pero kuwartahan ko ug daghan pa gyod ang malooy nako kay nakonsensya sa unsay akong gidangatan.

ako, nibalik sa amerika kay amerikana lagi gyod ko ug gikapoy na gyod tawon ko ug laroylaroy nga way nasod nga matawag nga akoa.

ikaw, nga nakaturok na sa amerika gipapadaplin sigon sa akong mando. gi-backhoe imong balay, ang imong yuta akong gibalayan, ako ang nagbuot kon asa ra ka dapit makapuyo, di ka makaadto sa imong uma kon di ka mangayo ug permiso nako.

ako, mobuhat aning tanan kay naay neighborhood bully nga andam nga motabang nako kanunay. ngano? kay nakatabang ug dako ang akong kaparyentihan sa iyang pag-asenso.

di na importante ang mga detalye, sama sa mga iro sa akong silingan nga ginganlan ug hadrian, nero, ug caligula.

na, hala, ingnon na lang nato nga ikaw bugsay maoy palestinian ug ako islander maoy israeli. guerra patani gyod ta, mangamungi kon mangamungi.

p.s. mahimo sad ug ani nga thread nga ako ang iring ug si baby boy lorenzo ang iro, or vice versa.

nakasabot na kong daan sa sentimiento sa mga Palestinian, kay murag diha ko ani pag discussed sa social studies pero dukaduka seguro ko ato..
maingon gyud natong pulonga nga siento porsiento sa mga Palestinian nga namuyo diha pagkakaron, diha sab gyud natawo, ......regardless sa unsay nahitabo sa unang panahon, moingon gyud na sila nga ila nang lugar ug ilang pakamatyan kon ilugon.
so mao ni nahitabo karon....ayayay...murag...milagro na lagi kon makabaton ug kalinaw nang dapita...

- nawong sa palestian nga gipalayas

- nawong sa palestinian nailugan na ug tugkaran

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islander · « **Reply #64 on:** June 19, 2010, 12:36:32 AM »

shalom! salaam! maayo pa ka, mata na. ako wa pa makatulog.

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islander · « **Reply #65 on:** June 19, 2010, 12:47:49 AM »

nakasabot na kong daan sa sentimiento sa mga Palestinian, kay murag diha ko ani pag discussed sa social studies pero dukaduka seguro ko ato..
maingon gyud natong pulonga nga siento porsiento sa mga Palestinian nga namuyo diha pagkakaron, diha sab gyud natawo, ......regardless sa unsay nahitabo sa unang panahon, moingon gyud na sila nga ila nang lugar ug ilang pakamatyan kon ilugon.
so mao ni nahitabo karon....ayayay...murag...milagro na lagi kon makabaton ug kalinaw nang dapita...

- nawong sa palestian nga gipalayas

- nawong sa palestinian nailugan na ug tugkaran

aha! bistado nga wa diay maka-recess kay naminaw sa social studies! bistado sad ang edad kay social studies pa, di sibika.

- nawong nako nga naugtas

p.s. naa koy keffiyeh ug keyholder with a palestinian flag design as keepsakes from a palestinian i met who does not even have a passport because he is stateless. the way things are now, a historical wrong is being righted by another wrong. magubot lang baya ning katawhan kon naay mamintaha.

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Vistabel · « **Reply #66 on:** June 19, 2010, 12:53:24 AM »

usa lang ang solution dihang lugara, i-take over ng UN ang pang governo diha.

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islander · « **Reply #67 on:** June 19, 2010, 01:21:55 AM »

usa lang ang solution dihang lugara, i-take over ng UN ang pang governo diha.

kun mahimo pa lang, dugay ra tingaling gibuhat.

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ms da binsi · « **Reply #68 on:** June 19, 2010, 01:47:18 AM »

shalom! salaam! maayo pa ka, mata na. ako wa pa makatulog.

huy pag hot bath sa didto para makatulog ka!

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islander · « **Reply #69 on:** June 19, 2010, 01:48:35 AM »

We're not veering from the topic, rather, my little inference was just to remind you that Palestine was not the original. The term Palestine was a foreign (Roman, to be exact) impression on the near east. So it gives credence to States' statement.

and that little inference failed to remind me that it matters whether or not the term palestine was original. the reminder was unnecessary. and useless.

by reminding me that the term palestine was a roman impression and not original, did you mean to say that the palestinian nation does not exist or does not deserve to exist at all?

statesâ€™ statement was that 'philistines need to go back to crete'. is this exactly what you gave credence to with your little inference? as i have earlier said, that statement is like saying that white americans should go back to europe because they came from there.

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islander · « **Reply #70 on:** June 19, 2010, 01:50:36 AM »

huy pag hot bath sa didto para makatulog ka!

hahaha! thanks for the tip. unsaon, arang katulog man god nako ganinang hapon. nadaot hinoon ang biorhythm.

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ms da binsi · « **Reply #71 on:** June 19, 2010, 01:51:14 AM »

and that little inference failed to remind me that it matters whether or not the term palestine was original. the reminder was unnecessary. and useless.

by reminding me that the term palestine was a roman impression and not original, did you mean to say that the palestinian nation does not exist or does not deserve to exist at all?

statesâ€™ statement was that palestinians should go back to crete. is this exactly what you gave credence to with your little inference? as i have earlier said, that statement is like saying that white americans should go back to europe because they came from there.

mao jud!!! mga white merikans nga dili raba taga diri mao pay mopatay sa mga itom ug natives sa una nga maajo gani wa na sila anam anama ug tikbas sa mga natives kada abut ana nila diri...grrr.

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islander · « **Reply #72 on:** June 19, 2010, 02:08:28 AM »

We're not veering from the topic, rather, my little inference was just to remind you that Palestine was not the original. The term Palestine was a foreign (Roman, to be exact) impression on the near east. So it gives credence to States' statement.

granted then that we're not OT, put another way, does it mean that for peace between israel and palestine, "the philistines need to go back to crete" because palestine was a roman impression on the near east?

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islander · « **Reply #73 on:** June 19, 2010, 02:14:22 AM »

And as far as I know, Crete was ruled by the Greeks. That island was ruled by the ancient Minoans (Mycenaean), who were Greek-speaking people. The island was (and is) linked to the mainland Greek-city states (Greek League). So could have the Philistines been from Crete? Sure, since Crete was part of the Greek League, and since the Philistines were Greek-speaking people.
~~

as sure as one plus one equals two. and as far as i know, crete is only one of the many places of origin of philistines. you yourself mentioned arabs as migrants to palestine too in another post of yours.

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islander · « **Reply #74 on:** June 19, 2010, 02:19:48 AM »

Genetic results can also conclude that all human beings share 99.99% of the same homeobox.

obviously in the sense that we are all human beings (hopefully, anyway). but then some must be more the same than others, otherwise, whatâ€™s the point of the terms israeli and palestinian? congratulations to us, then. we could be both palestinian and israeli aside from being boholano.

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islander · « **Reply #75 on:** June 19, 2010, 02:23:51 AM »

The Arabs were an ethnic group that originally came from the Arab peninsula and expanded throughout the region as traders, herders and nomads. The forced explusion of the Hebrews and the subsequent raizing of Jerusalem to the ground created a void in the region; and the region was resettled by non-Hebrews.

The term Palestine is in itself vague because the term was coined by Roman promulgation in order to erase the Jewish presence or knowledge thereof from the histories. The entire region of Provincia Judea was renamed to Syria Palestinia after the 2nd Great Jewish Revolt after the Romans sent 12 legions to Judea to raize Jerusalem to the ground and to pacify the revolt (more like a genocide).

The term 'Palestine' is a foreign coinage, Roman to be exact. Byzantium retained the Roman standard and altered Syria Palaestinia to ~ Palaestinia Sultaris. When the Ottoman Turks took control of the region, they called it Falastin (retaining the Roman standard). And when Britain took control of the region after the defeat of the Ottoman Turks in 1918, renamed it as Palestine.

Thus, retaining the Roman standard.

more of the same. mental indigestion, anyone? come on, lorenzo. do you really believe this lecture is necessary and sought after?

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islander · « **Reply #76 on:** June 19, 2010, 02:25:30 AM »

My answer to this question:

I don't think there will ever be peace in the near east.

at least, not in this lifetime.

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islander · « **Reply #77 on:** June 19, 2010, 02:27:23 AM »

Note: When Hadrian ordered the razing of Jerusalem to the ground, he also ordered the renaming of Provincia Judea to Provincia Syria Palestinia; in honor of the enemy of the Jews, the Philistines. One has to understand that the basis for this renaming was that the Jews earned the enmity of Rome with their revolts and uprisings. Hadrian was adamant about his decision and sent 12 Roman Legions to quell the rebellion.

so? is it because of hadrian that peace seems impossible there now?

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islander · « **Reply #78 on:** June 19, 2010, 02:44:28 AM »

The Ottoman Turks that used to govern what is now present day Israel (Palestine) conceded it to the British Empire after the ceasure of the 1st World War. The British would be influential in the development of the Israeli State.

The collapse of the the Roman Empire led to the rise of the Byzantine (Eastern Roman), which then collapsed to the Ottoman Turks (which expanded throughout southern and eastern europe for a good 4-5 centuries); before itself collapsing after the Young Turk Revolution and the ending of the 1st World War.

Additionally, i stated that all nations/ empires that tried to exterminate the Jews all collapsed. Your mentioning of the Azteca (mesoamerican), Srivijayan (south east asian) etc has no basis in this since these civilizations had no contact with the Jewish people or implemented a policy of wiping out a large Jewish population.

Azteca was overwhelmed by the Spanish (offspring of the Roman) Empire; while Srivijaya , a major sea-faring empire, was silenced by the Singhasari and later the Majapahit Empire.

i mentioned other empires in the context of your claim that empires that tried to exterminate the jews had collapsed. empires collapse, as they all must, whether they try to exterminate jews or not.

i claimed nothing of the sort that all empires had something to do with the jews. rather, my point was the collapse of empires is way off the current israeli-palestinian issue.

and now your lecture is expanding to what happened to those other empires. o, lorenzo, hilfe! how would you feel if youâ€™re talking about how fine the weather is and someone answers with the details of the mortgage on his latest sailboat acquisition?

you either cannot get it or you simply refuse to get it. the former is a product of a short-circuited intellect, the latter of being too full of oneself.

i appreciate your stamina, though. goodnight.

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islander · « **Reply #79 on:** June 19, 2010, 02:47:57 AM »

OT: finally, i'm sleepy ms da binsi. goodnight/good morning. have a great day!

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