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Do You Believe in Dejavu?
« on: June 07, 2012, 10:18:20 PM »
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Re: Do You Believe in Dejavu?
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2012, 10:47:28 PM »
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Re: Do You Believe in Dejavu?
« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2012, 10:52:01 PM »
Déjà vu is French for "already seen." Déjà vu is an uncanny feeling or illusion of having already seen or experienced something that is being experienced for the first time.

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The term was applied by Emile Boirac (1851-1917), who had strong interests in psychic phenomena.  Boirac's term directs our attention to the past.  However, a little reflection reveals that what is unique about déjà vu is not something from the past but something in the present, namely, the strange feeling one has. We often have experiences the novelty of which is unclear. In such cases we may have been led to ask such questions as, "Have I read this book before?" "Is this an episode of Inspector Morse I've seen before?" "This place looks familiar; have I been here before?" Yet, these experiences are not accompanied by an uncanny feeling. We may feel a bit confused, but the feeling associated with the déjà vu experience is not one of confusion; it is one of strangeness.

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Re: Do You Believe in Dejavu?
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2012, 10:58:19 PM »
We have all some experience of a feeling, that comes over us occasionally, of what we are saying and doing having been said and done before, in a remote time -- of our having been surrounded, dim ages ago, by the same faces, objects, and circumstances -- of our knowing perfectly what will be said next, as if we suddenly remember it! (Charles Dickens, David Copperfield, Chapter 39) 

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Re: Do You Believe in Dejavu?
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2012, 11:04:33 PM »
What is déjà vu and how does it work? Déjà vu is considered a common phenomenon. Surveys show that about one third of the population has had the most common form of déjà vu sensations. Due to the subjective and often indescribable nature of the associated feelings, it has been difficult, to determine who is actually experiencing déjà vu. In general, however, déjà vu is "any number of hard-to-explain sometimes upsetting occurrences of unexpected recognition, in which the person involved has trouble identifying an antecedent for the events and/or places which seem so strangely and intensely familiar." Déjà vu has been defined as "familiarity without awareness." While the situational cues of a déjà vu are familiar, there is a definite lack of awareness about the specific source of the memory.

from Déjà vu and the Brain, Consciousness and Self
by Julia Johnson, http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/

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Re: Do You Believe in Dejavu?
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2012, 11:14:10 PM »
Arthur Funkhouser defines three types of déjà vu in an attempt to more clearly delineate between associated, but different, neurological experiences. These are déjà vecu (already experienced), déjà senti (already felt) and déjà visité (already visited).

Déjà vecu is the most common déjà vu experience and involves the sensation of having done something or having been in an identical situation before and knowing what will happen next. These sensations are often felt through several senses: seeing, hearing, taste, touch and proprioceptive perceptions. The experience is often incredibly detailed and is usually connected to very normal activities. Although the episode itself lasts from only a fraction of a second to several minutes, it can often be remembered in minute detail long after the episode has occurred. One experiencer says, "There came this strange, almost physical up-welling of visual experience, a visual warping, and at the same time an eerie realization that everything happening now had happened before, maybe many times."

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Re: Do You Believe in Dejavu?
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2012, 11:20:53 PM »
obviously, déjà vu has nothing to do with the paranormal.  it's more neurological, at least according to studies. 

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Re: Do You Believe in Dejavu?
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2012, 11:35:37 PM »
as for the song "déjà vu" (of various versions from crosby stills, nash & young in 1970,dionne warwick in 1979, all the way to beyoncé in 2006 and a 2010 version of a band whose name is unreadable), a dj in cebu once introduced it as "...from the republic of bohol...here's déjà vu!"

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Re: Do You Believe in Dejavu?
« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2012, 07:07:40 AM »
Do You Believe in Dejavu?

It happened on more than one occasion  ;)  :-X



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Re: Do You Believe in Dejavu?
« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2012, 11:45:41 AM »
Hmm, déjà vu is a fairly common experience, although strangely in my case more common is jamais vu.

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Re: Do You Believe in Dejavu?
« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2012, 11:47:10 AM »
yes, i've experienced this phenomenon called deja vu. i'd like to know the neurophysiology of this experience.

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Re: Do You Believe in Dejavu?
« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2012, 11:50:58 AM »
Scientific Theories about Déjà Vu

Currently, there are four main scientific hypotheses about déjà vu:

1. Dual processing glitch. Memory may involve a set of neurons that signal when a stimulus is familiar, and another set that retrieves already stored data. Déjà vu might arise when the familiarity system functions independently of the retrieval system.

2. Seizures. Epileptic seizures are sometimes accompanied by a déjà vu experience, leading some researchers to suggest that all déjà vu might be caused by small brain seizures. There is also data demonstrating that déjà vu occurs when certain brain regions are electrically stimulated.

3. Missing context. It could be that déjà vu happens when the brain retrieves something from our vast memory bank of images and perceptions—without filling in the situational context.

4. Double perception theory. Déjà vu occurs when there is a slight interruption in our normal perceptual processing. When our attention returns a moment later, we feel that we’ve already processed this perception before.

Scientists have attempted to come up with studies to trigger or replicate déjà vu-like experiences. For instance, students at two universities were shown photos of the other campus and asked to quickly locate superimposed cross-shaped markers. After viewing more photos of the other campus three weeks later, including some that had appeared in the first task, 89% of the students thought that they had been to the other campus before and 50% reported feeling déjà vu. These results support the double perception theory. When they were intent on locating the cross-shaped markers, students were not paying attention to the other elements in the photos. When they looked at the photos later, they experienced déjà vu.


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Re: Do You Believe in Dejavu?
« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2012, 11:52:19 AM »
Hmm, déjà vu is a fairly common experience, although strangely in my case more common is jamais vu.

hahaha!  only two things: either you're a martian or a pure balingsyanhon trying to forget those corn trees. ;D 

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Re: Do You Believe in Dejavu?
« Reply #13 on: June 08, 2012, 11:55:34 AM »
2. Seizures. Epileptic seizures are sometimes accompanied by a déjà vu experience, leading some researchers to suggest that all déjà vu might be caused by small brain seizures. There is also data demonstrating that déjà vu occurs when certain brain regions are electrically stimulated.

oh, no.  there goes the almost "paranormal" strange feeling.  science is really cold.

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Re: Do You Believe in Dejavu?
« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2012, 06:52:38 PM »
oh, no.  there goes the almost "paranormal" strange feeling.  science is really cold.

Yet the "paranormal" strange feeling rules. In the context of one's sense of life, whatever science says--however accurate or profound--will always be nothing more than an obiter dictum.

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Re: Do You Believe in Dejavu?
« Reply #15 on: June 11, 2012, 02:19:36 PM »
he he, science tries to explain what man believes is true, however, there are times when scientific explanation cannot explain the natural order of things. an example is how the theory of relativity and the quantum physics do not equate or fit in a physics equation, yet, it does exist in the natural world.

there is only so much man can understand the tip of the iceberg that is God's wonder made manifest in the natural world, and also in the cosmos.

the created can only understand so much.

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Re: Do You Believe in Dejavu?
« Reply #16 on: June 11, 2012, 02:19:48 PM »
Yet the "paranormal" strange feeling rules. In the context of one's sense of life, whatever science says--however accurate or profound--will always be nothing more than an obiter dictum.

i agree.

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Re: Do You Believe in Dejavu?
« Reply #17 on: June 14, 2012, 06:13:44 AM »
Usahay, dagiton ko aning DejaVu. Naa ko sa CeVu pero akong paminaw naa gihapon ko sa VuHol... ;D

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Re: Do You Believe in Dejavu?
« Reply #18 on: July 23, 2012, 01:41:24 PM »
It happened on more than one occasion  ;)  :-X



interesting. i experienced this just some time ago.

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