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Indian man convicted of gang rape blames victim
« on: March 04, 2015, 03:43:12 PM »
AP March 3, 2015, 5:20 AM


NEW DELHI -- One of the men convicted for raping and killing a woman in a shocking and brutal 2012 gang attack on a New Delhi bus said in a TV documentary that if their victim had not fought back she would not have been killed.

Instead, the 23-year-old woman should have remained silent, said Mukesh Singh, who was driving the bus when the woman was attacked.

"Then they would have dropped her off after 'doing her,'" he said in a documentary being released next week. The filmmakers released transcripts of the interview, which was recorded in 2013, on Tuesday.

Singh and three other attackers were convicted in a fast-track court in 2013. The appeals against their death sentences are pending in the Supreme Court.

"A girl is far more responsible for rape than a boy," he said, according to the transcripts. "A decent girl won't roam around at 9 o'clock at night .... Housework and housekeeping is for girls, not roaming in discos and bars at night doing wrong things, wearing wrong clothes."

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« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2015, 03:44:10 PM »
The woman and her friend were returning home from seeing a movie at an upscale mall when they got on the bus. The attackers beat her friend and took turns raping the woman. They penetrated her with a rod, leaving severe internal injuries that caused her death.

India, where many people have long believed that women are responsible for rape, was shocked into action after the attack. The Indian government rushed legislation doubling prison terms for rapists to 20 years and criminalizing voyeurism, stalking and the trafficking of women. The law also makes it a crime for police officers to refuse to open cases when complaints are made.

In the interview, Singh suggested that the attack was to teach the woman and her male friend a lesson that they should not have been out late at night. He also reiterated that rape victims should not fight back: "She should just be silent and allow the rape."

He also said that the death penalty would make things even more dangerous for women: "Now when they rape, they won't leave the girl like we did. They will kill her."

Singh's interview is from the documentary "India's Daughter" by British filmmaker Leslee Udwin. It will be shown on March 8, International Women's Day, in India, Britain, Denmark, Sweden and several other countries.

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« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2015, 03:51:46 PM »
In the interview, Singh suggested that the attack was to teach the woman and her male friend a lesson that they should not have been out late at night. He also reiterated that rape victims should not fight back: "She should just be silent and allow the rape."

He also said that the death penalty would make things even more dangerous for women: "Now when they rape, they won't leave the girl like we did. They will kill her."

Hmm, could these sick comments be expressions of the typical Indian male mindset?

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Re: Indian man convicted of gang rape blames victim
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2015, 04:14:05 PM »
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« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2015, 12:24:09 PM »
Hmm, could these sick comments be expressions of the typical Indian male mindset?

Mao jud diay... :P


A murderer and rapist's views reflect those of many in India
By MUNEEZA NAQVI 16 hours ago

 
NEW DELHI (AP) — When a condemned killer said the woman he and others brutally gang-raped on a New Delhi bus was responsible for what had happened to her, his comments were shocking in their callousness and lack of remorse. But the underlying view has wide acceptance in India.

Blaming women for rape is what hundreds of millions of men here are taught to believe.

And the code for women in this country is simple: Dress modestly, don't go out at night, don't go to bars and clubs, don't go out alone. If you break the code, you will be blamed for the consequences.

When one of the four men sentenced to death for the high-profile gang rape of the woman in 2012 was quoted in a new documentary as saying "a girl is far more responsible for rape than a boy," he was repeating something community and religious leaders in this nation of 1.2 billion routinely say.

"A decent girl won't roam around at 9 o'clock at night. ... Housework and housekeeping is for girls, not roaming in discos and bars at night doing wrong things, wearing wrong clothes," Mukesh Singh said in the documentary, "India's Daughter," meant to be shown on Sunday, International Women's Day, in India and several other countries.

But how different were the convicted rapist's words from comments that Manohar Lal Khattar, the top elected official of Haryana state made last year?

"If a girl is dressed decently, a boy will not look at her in the wrong way," Khattar told reporters, "Freedom has to be limited. These short clothes are Western influences. Our country's tradition asks girls to dress decently."

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« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2015, 12:26:02 PM »
The convicted rapist learned only what he has heard leaders in his community say, said Jagmati Sangwan, a women's rights activist who heads the All India Democratic Women's Association.

"This man is just following the example our leaders are setting for our young men," she said.

In 2009 when a rightwing Hindu group attacked women in a pub in the southern state of Karnataka, then-Chief Minister B.S. Yeddyurappa said that he wanted to "end the culture of boys and girls roaming around in malls holding hands."

Women leaders are not immune.

When a female journalist was shot dead in 2008 while driving home from work well past midnight, New Delhi's top official at the time, Sheila Dixit, make clear she partly blamed the victim.

"All by herself till 3 a.m. at night in a city where people believe...you know...you should not be so adventurous," she told reporters.

It's a view that Sangwan hears all too often.

"It's a heinous view to hold, but it's the view of our religious leaders, our community leaders, our legislators," she said.

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Re: Indian man convicted of gang rape blames victim
« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2015, 12:38:45 PM »
The country's women aren't surprised either.

"A lot of Indian men think this way. They don't have any empathy or they are brought up in such a way that they don't feel anything for women. They feel that women are only for sex and to be thrown away," said Bhavleen Singh, an 18-year-old student at Delhi University.

Mukesh Singh, who was driving the bus for much of the time that the 23-year-old woman was being attacked, told the documentary film maker that the victim should have remained silent and allowed the rape, and that they would have spared her life.

The documentary, which includes a 2013 jailhouse interview with Singh, set off government alarm bells after transcripts were released this week. On Tuesday, India's Information and Broadcasting Ministry ordered television channels not to air the film.

It remains unclear whether the government will be able to block the film but the legal wrangling will most likely delay its screening in India.

The brutality, and perhaps the fact that the gang rape occurred on a moving bus in a posh New Delhi neighborhood, galvanized this country of 1.2 billion, where sexual violence is rampant.

The woman and a male friend were returning home from seeing a movie at an upscale mall when they were tricked by the attackers into getting on the bus, which the men had taken out for a joyride. The attackers beat the victim's friend and took turns raping her. They penetrated her with a rod, leaving severe internal injuries that led to her death two weeks later.

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« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2015, 01:16:16 PM »
Four men were convicted of rape and murder in an unusually fast trial for India's chaotic justice system. A fifth man died in prison, and another attacker who was a juvenile at the time was sentenced to three years in a detention center.

The four adults who went to trial confessed to the attack but later retracted their confessions, saying they'd been tortured into admitting their involvement. Legal appeals against their death sentences are pending in the Supreme Court.

In response to the 2012 attack and the widespread public protests it provoked, India's government rushed through legislation doubling prison terms for rapists to 20 years and criminalizing voyeurism, stalking and the trafficking of women.

But while laws can change quickly, mindsets do not. India's Parliament held a stormy debate Wednesday on whether the film should be screened. Some legislators questioned how the filmmaker, who is British, had gotten into the prison to do the interview. Many, though, were uncomfortable with having India's problems aired publicly — particularly by a foreign filmmaker.

But several lawmakers, many of them women, disagreed.

"What the man spoke reflects views of many men in India," Anu Aga, a prominent businesswoman and legislator said in Parliament.

"Every time a rape happens, the victim is blamed to have provoked the men. Let's be aware of the view and not pretend all is well," she said.
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Associated Press journalist Chonchui Ngashangva contributed to this report.

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Re: Indian man convicted of gang rape blames victim
« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2015, 01:25:38 PM »
She was with a friend but still attacked / raped her.  Since, daghan man ug bombay dire sa Pinas, dili lang unta sila pa buing buing dire.

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Re: Indian man convicted of gang rape blames victim
« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2015, 07:20:28 PM »
well, mukesh singh, if you're lucky to escape the death penalty and your small body member down below you, near your ass, the one that you used for raping, @sshole, is CUT OFF, remember, it's your fault for having a small body member. >:(

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« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2015, 07:26:34 PM »


 Mukesh Singh, centre, is shown outside a New Delhi court in 2013. In an interview from the same year, he told a documentary maker that women are more responsible for rapes than men. (Reuters)

more at http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/interview-with-mukesh-singh-india-gang-rapist-gets-documentary-banned-1.2981178

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