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Sex is major reason military commanders are fired
« on: January 21, 2013, 02:08:35 PM »
By LOLITA C. BALDOR | Associated Press – 3 hrs ago



Associated Press/U.S. Army, File - FILE - This undated file photo provided by the U.S. Army shows Brig. Gen. Jeffrey A. Sinclair. Sinclair, fired from his command in Afghanistan in May 2012 and now facing a …more  court-martial on charges of sodomy, adultery and pornography and more, is just one in a long line of commanders whose careers were ended because of possible sexual misconduct. (AP Photo/U.S. Army, File)

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Re: Sex is major reason military commanders are fired
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2013, 02:09:04 PM »
WASHINGTON (AP) — Brig. Gen. Jeffrey Sinclair, fired from his command in Afghanistan last May and now facing a court-martial on charges of sodomy, adultery and pornography and more, is just one in a long line of commanders whose careers were ended because of possible sexual misconduct.

Sex has proved to be the downfall of presidential candidates, members of Congress, governors and other notables. It's also among the chief reasons that senior military officers are fired.

At least 30 percent of military commanders fired over the past eight years lost their jobs because of sexually related offenses, including harassment, adultery, and improper relationships, according to statistics compiled by The Associated Press.

The figures bear out growing concerns by Defense Department and military leaders over declining ethical values among U.S. forces, and they highlight the pervasiveness of a problem that came into sharp relief because of the resignation of one of the Army's most esteemed generals, David Petraeus, and the investigation of a second general, John Allen, the top U.S. commander in Afghanistan.

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Re: Sex is major reason military commanders are fired
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2013, 02:09:34 PM »
The statistics from all four military services show that adulterous affairs are more than a four-star foible. From sexual assault and harassment to pornography, drugs and drinking, ethical lapses are an escalating problem for the military's leaders.

With all those offenses taken together, more than 4 in every 10 commanders at the rank of lieutenant colonel or above who were fired fell as a result of behavioral stumbles since 2005.

The recent series of highly publicized cases led to a review of ethics training across the military. It also prompted Army Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, to conclude that while training is adequate, it may need to start earlier in service members' careers and be reinforced more frequently.

Still, officials struggle to explain why the problem has grown and they acknowledge that solving it is difficult and will take time.

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« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2013, 02:10:00 PM »
"I think we're on the path. I think the last two defense secretaries have made this a very high priority and have very much held people accountable. But we've got a ways to go," said Michele Flournoy, a former undersecretary of defense under President Barack Obama.

She said the military must enforce a "zero tolerance" policy and work to change the culture so service members are held accountable and made to understand that their careers will be over if they commit or tolerate such offenses.

"The policy is in place," she said. "I don't know that it's as evenly and fully enforced as intended."

For top officers, the numbers are startling.

Eighteen generals and admirals, from one star to four stars, were fired in recent years, and 10 of them lost their jobs because of sex-related offenses; two others were done in by alcohol-related problems.

The figures show that 255 commanders were fired since 2005, and that 78 of them were felled by sex-related offenses. A breakdown: 32 in the Army, 25 in the Navy, 11 in the Marine Corps and 10 in the Air Force.

Alcohol and drug-related problems cost the jobs of 27 commanders — 11 in the Navy, eight in the Army, five in the Marine Corp(s and three in the Air Force.

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« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2013, 02:10:34 PM »
"It's troublesome," said Rear Adm. John Kirby, the Navy's top spokesman. "Navy leadership is taking a look at why personal conduct seems to be a growing reason for why commanding officers are losing their commands. We're trying to get to the root causes. We don't really fully understand it."

He and other military leaders agree that poor leadership, bad judgment, and ethical lapses, rather than operational failures, are growing factors in the firings. But Kirby said it's not clear whether that has anything to do with the strains of the past 10 years at war or simply reflects deteriorating morals among the general population.

Defense Secretary Leon Panetta ordered the ethics review in November. He said that "when lapses occur, they have the potential to erode public confidence in our leadership and in our system for the enforcement of our high ethical standards. Worse, they can be detrimental to the execution of our mission to defend the American people."

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Re: Sex is major reason military commanders are fired
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2013, 03:15:20 PM »
For top officers, the numbers are startling.

Eighteen generals and admirals, from one star to four stars, were fired in recent years, and 10 of them lost their jobs because of sex-related offenses; two others were done in by alcohol-related problems.

The figures show that 255 commanders were fired since 2005, and that 78 of them were felled by sex-related offenses. A breakdown: 32 in the Army, 25 in the Navy, 11 in the Marine Corps and 10 in the Air Force.

Alcohol and drug-related problems cost the jobs of 27 commanders — 11 in the Navy, eight in the Army, five in the Marine Corp(s and three in the Air Force.

oops.  di tingali kaayo makabinuang ang taga-air force kay tua man naglupadlupad. 

kining alcohol-related offenses, nag-exhibition ba kaha ning mga officers when they had one too many?

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Re: Sex is major reason military commanders are fired
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2013, 03:19:47 PM »

Brig. Gen. Jeffrey Sinclair, shown here in Afghanistan in 2011, stands accused of forcible sodomy, conduct unbecoming an officer, and other charges. Photo: DVIDSHUB

An Army general isn’t just accused of sexually assaulting a female subordinate. According to newly released military documents, the one-star general ”threaten[ed] to use his rank, position, and authority to damage or ruin [the captain's] military career if she ended their sexual relationship.” And he disobeyed a direct order from his superior officer to leave the female officer alone. (http://www.wired.com/)


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Re: Sex is major reason military commanders are fired
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2013, 03:21:19 PM »
the immortal story... men in high places felled by women.

i guess this predatory tendencies have always existed.  it's just that women nowadays no longer keep quiet as victims.

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Re: Sex is major reason military commanders are fired
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2013, 09:51:24 AM »
the immortal story... men in high places felled by women.

i guess this predatory tendencies have always existed.  it's just that women nowadays no longer keep quiet as victims.

Some women nowadays have become predators themselves. :P

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Re: Sex is major reason military commanders are fired
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Re: Sex is major reason military commanders are fired
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2013, 10:58:24 AM »
Some women nowadays have become predators themselves. :P

you mean, you know a male someone who has been molested by a female?  talkin' dog... ::)

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Re: Sex is major reason military commanders are fired
« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2013, 11:53:20 AM »
you mean, you know a male someone who has been molested by a female?  talkin' dog... ::)

Naa, oi. Gikuyawan man gani siya... ;D

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Re: Sex is major reason military commanders are fired
« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2013, 12:19:20 PM »
kuyawa diay no?...;D
you mean, you know a male someone who has been molested by a female?  talkin' dog... ::)
Naa, oi. Gikuyawan man gani siya... ;D

okay, okay... nakasabot na ko.  it's no longer a talkin' dog. ;D

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