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« on: January 23, 2009, 05:00:47 AM »
CNN) -- Is a woman's virginity worth $3.8 million? That's how much Natalie Dylan, a 22-year-old from San Diego, California, said she has been offered through an auction she announced in September.
Natalie Dylan, 22, said she has put her virginity up for auction through the Moonlite Bunny Ranch.

Natalie Dylan, 22, said she has put her virginity up for auction through the Moonlite Bunny Ranch.

Her private auction through the Moonlite Bunny Ranch, a legal brothel in Nevada, has given her lots of "business opportunities," she said.

Her top bid comes from a 39-year-old Australian, but she has no immediate plans to settle the auction, she said in a recent interview with CNN.

Some men may seek virgins because they want them as trophies, or desire purity. But as to why men would bid so much money on virginity, she said she has no answer.

"I honestly don't know what they see in it," she said.

If you think Dylan's auction amounts to prostitution, she completely agrees. She also said she's not breaking any laws -- after all, prostitution in Nevada is legal.

"I feel people should be pro-choice with their body, and I'm not hurting anyone," she said. "It really comes down to a moral and religious argument, and this doesn't go against my religion or my morals. There's no right or wrong to this."

The idea that virginity has a high value harkens back to the days of early humans -- if a man has sex with a virgin woman, he knows for sure that her children will be his, anthropologists reason. In early civilizations, women were also considered the property of men, said Laura Carpenter, assistant professor of sociology at Vanderbilt University in Tennessee.

In America, women were expected to remain virgins until marriage through the 1950s, Carpenter said. But with the availability of the pill and the IUD in the 1960s, combined with youth counterculture and gay rights movements, it became more common for women to engage in premarital sex, she said.

Attitudes shifted toward the conservative side in the 1980s with the worldwide HIV/AIDS pandemic, which made the stakes much higher for choosing a sex partner, especially for men. Abstinence-based education programs also took off around that time, with government support, she said.

Today, about 95 percent of Americans have sex before they're 25, Carpenter said. But worldwide, virgin prostitutes can claim larger fees, certain cultures still attach larger dowries to virgin brides, and some women undergo reconstructive surgery to restore their hymens.

In looking at Dylan's auction, "To some extent it's not new. The new part is the Internet," Carpenter said.

Dylan is not the first to hold a public sale for her sexual innocence. An Italian model reportedly had plans to sell her virginity for more than $1 million in September. Dylan said she was inspired by a report of a Peruvian woman who put her virginity up for sale.

Some think Dylan's auction may be indicative of a shift in the way society treats sexuality.

"In a world that is teeming with brand messages, with sponsorships everywhere, intimacy is really just the next thing to go," said Jon Ray, a 24-year-old marketing consultant in Austin, Texas, and author of the blog Who is Jon Ray?

Brett Austin Vanderzee, a 19-year-old student at Oklahoma Christian University who has pledged to stay a virgin until marriage, finds Dylan's actions somewhat appalling, but not shocking.

"It's kind of crazy, but I think it's the general direction that society has been heading in for a while," he said. "We're becoming more accepting of things that normally would have been considered unwise."

Kiara Daines, a 17-year-old from Detroit, Michigan, said she's saving herself until marriage for personal and religious reasons. Both Vanderzee and Daines said they have endured teasing from their peers because of their choice to remain abstinent.

Others say there's just too much hype around virginity. Martha Kempner, vice president for information and communications for the nonprofit Sexuality Information and Education Council of the U.S., said telling a young woman to stay"pure" misses the point that sexuality will influence her long after she loses her virginity.

"By putting the emphasis there, [on virginity], we're actually devaluing the rest of women, the rest of her, and the rest of her sexuality for the rest of her life," she said.
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A recent study in the journal Pediatrics showed that religious teens who take virginity pledges are as likely to have sex before marriage as their religious peers, and less likely to use condoms or birth control when they become sexually active.

Many people say losing one's virginity has different implications for men than women. While young women see the act as a symbolic giving of themselves, young men are more prone to want to get it over with and brag about it. Similarly, says Kempner, women are taught to keep themselves "pure" and help men exercise control, while there's a "boys will be boys" attitude around men.

Do men really think that virginity is worth millions of dollars?

Audacia Ray, a 28-year-old former sex worker from New York and author of "Naked on the Internet: Hookups, Downloads and Cashing In on Internet Sexploration," is skeptical. She views Dylan's auction as a publicity stunt and doesn't anticipate she'll "continue in the industry."

The importance of a woman's virginity may vary in different cultures, but generally there's not the high value there used to be, Ray said.

"It begins to be viewed more as a burden over time -- a burden in that losing virginity is an event, so that it has to somehow mean something, which is part of the reason why people are all up in arms about Natalie," she said.

How do Dylan's friends and family feel? Dylan, who said she was raised in a conservative, non-Christian religious household, said although her mother doesn't agree with her, she still loves her as a daughter. Generally people have been supportive, said Dylan, who uses "Natalie Dylan" as a pseudonym.

"I've talked with my exes, some different guys, and they understand it's just a business deal, and they know me, and they know I'm not this promiscuous girl. Honestly, even if I didn't do this, I'd always be the girl who thinks prostitution is OK," she said. "I would always want to find a partner that can accept me for me."

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« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2009, 10:51:09 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2009, 11:22:13 PM »
I am not attracted by such kind of auction even when I do have lots of money! It makes a virgin cheaper than she is worth.

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« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2009, 10:25:55 AM »
Layman, did you know that in Sweden, virginity is  sin? Try to research about this.

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« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2009, 07:30:16 PM »
What I know is that in Sweden sex is free.

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« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2009, 09:49:15 PM »
way bayad ilang mga borikat didto? LOL

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« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2009, 12:36:51 AM »
i lost my virginity at the age of 22 and i didn't have any regrets about it.

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« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2009, 12:56:06 AM »
dili kog virgin kay di kamao. kinahanglan pag training.

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« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2009, 11:41:03 PM »
dili kog virgin kay di kamao. kinahanglan pag training.
ganahan ko mo train ug virgin nong lindy.

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« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2009, 11:45:02 PM »
nindot ning virigin pod kay may sense of innocence (malaki o mababaye).
at least, kung maka-master na siya, medyo proud pod ka kay ikaw maoy nakatudlo...LOL

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« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2009, 11:50:29 PM »
proud jud ka dapat kay ang student nimo nahimo napud nga master ug mao nasad ang mutodlo sa ubang mga virgins aron mahimo pud silang master.  ;D

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« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2009, 11:51:32 PM »
korek...pasa-pasa sa kahibalo.

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« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2009, 11:53:36 PM »
mao nay shared what you had learned so that others will also learn. ;D

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« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2009, 04:09:49 AM »
Being a virgin is one of the things that proves you are in charge, and it shows that you are powerful enough to make your own decisions about your mind and body.
For many teens, moral factors are very important as well. Family attitudes, personal values, or religious beliefs provide them with an inner voice that guides them in resisting pressures to get sexually involved before the time is right.


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« Reply #15 on: February 04, 2009, 08:37:58 AM »
Tiaw bai kinumo mosulod adtong pwerta. LOL!

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« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2009, 09:05:23 AM »
'The box it came in!' was the phrase. Ang akong literal interpretation sa 'box' kinumo sa usa ka boksengero. Unsa na kaha ang interpretation sa uban? Box as in Balikbayan box? Sus, di na jod na Virgin. Mura na nag pwertahan sa simbahan!

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« Reply #18 on: February 04, 2009, 09:09:35 AM »
Kanang pati kabaw mo sulod na og apil :)

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« Reply #19 on: February 04, 2009, 09:16:10 AM »
He he he...Basin ug adto na magtago tung kabaw after sila maginukdanay! Akala nila virgin forest! LOL

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« Reply #20 on: February 04, 2009, 09:19:13 AM »
:) unya deritso sila sa virgin island.

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« Reply #21 on: February 04, 2009, 09:32:46 AM »
Asa na man ng Virgin Island? Morag nasalaag na ko da. Di ba sa West Virginia na? Oi Kanta man diay to ni John Denver no? Mali pala ako!

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« Reply #22 on: February 04, 2009, 12:36:01 PM »
Ingon akong mother-in-law didto sa ilang gipuy-an kono sa Kauai, Hawaii, ang ilang island ma consider niya og virgin island tungod sa beauty sa nature.

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« Reply #23 on: February 04, 2009, 01:00:36 PM »
pero wa nay virgin didto...ang nature na lang

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« Reply #24 on: February 04, 2009, 04:15:26 PM »
Mas maayo masulayan  nimo una mo magminyo kon dili ba sterile ang imong uyab.
This is the reason to test the virginity of your  future wife. Bahala na ug dili virgin basta manganak.

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« Reply #25 on: February 04, 2009, 04:39:32 PM »
I am not attracted by such kind of auction even when I do have lots of money! It makes a virgin cheaper than she is worth.
i agree to you... this is insane! What the heck is she thinking?

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« Reply #26 on: February 05, 2009, 08:09:16 AM »
Sa panultihon pa "Virgin pay anay!"


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« Reply #27 on: February 09, 2009, 02:37:41 AM »
Mas maayo masulayan  nimo una mo magminyo kon dili ba sterile ang imong uyab.
This is the reason to test the virginity of your  future wife. Bahala na ug dili virgin basta manganak.


unsa man ni pagkaon kay tilawan una ! kon dili mo angay iluwa na lang .

 
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« Reply #28 on: February 19, 2009, 12:40:00 AM »
ako lobot pure virgin...ok pani  ;D

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« Reply #30 on: February 19, 2009, 06:28:51 AM »
In Roman times, the Vestal Virgins remained celibate for 30 years on penalty of death.

Sometimes it might seem like everyone in school is talking about who's a virgin, who isn't, and who might be. For both girls and guys, the pressure can sometimes be intense.

But deciding whether it's right for you to have sex is one of the most important decisions you'll ever have to make. Each person must use his or her own judgment and decide if it's the right time — and the right person.

This means considering some very important factors — both physical ones, like the possibility of becoming pregnant or getting a sexually transmitted disease (STD) — and emotional factors, too. Though a person's body may feel ready for sex, sex also has very serious emotional consequences.

For many teens, moral factors are very important as well. Family attitudes, personal values, or religious beliefs provide them with an inner voice that guides them in resisting pressures to get sexually involved before the time is right.

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