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Moral Relativism?
« on: November 21, 2008, 02:29:49 PM »
To whom it may concern:

In these days of moral relativity and tolerance of anything but absolute truth, we should remember that the concept of separating God from government is man's idea--- not God's.

The men and women who risked their lives and livelihoods to build the liberty we enjoy would be astounded at how we've divorced faith in God from public policy. It is absurd to believe that faith in God has no place in government or politics," writes steve Massey in an article written shortly before both the Canadian and U.S. elections. "A charade that would puzzle, if not outrage, those who founded our country on Christian principles, " he continues, In George Washington's farewell address, he warned, " Let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion.....reason and experience bothforbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle. "Two years later, in 1778, a signer of the Declaration of Independence argued strongly that Christian principles must remain the cornerstone of public policy making, including education, which, said Benjamin Rush, requires "the universal education of our youth in the principles of Christianity by means of the Bible."

" The idea of separating church and state came from people aimed at preventing the government from mandating a particular religious practice ---- NOT kicking God out of the public square entirely. More and more Christians are buying the lie that faith is merely a private matter that has no bearing on the workplace, relationships, how we vote, or how we're governed....

Christ is not a segment of life to be kept separate from everything else--- He is Life itself....

Now this brings us to what is going on in our ideas and methodology, it is corrupted, and some didn't even know it, how can they know if they don't really have a Biblical Worldview?
They may call themselves Christians and confess Christ, but the way they talk and live their lives, is opposite to what the Bible teaches.....The reality has been here two thousand years ago, but the rest of humanity is living in utopianism of Satan the Devil.... puzzled?  read the Bible and You will understand, but first you must pray and ask God to give you the knowledge, God's Knowledge not some washyy...washyyy one... As i said in my previous article, that there are "4 World Views".
Now which of the 4 do you believe or practice? that should be a good test for you.....

Cheers,
rayborze

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Re: Moral Relativism?
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2008, 03:18:32 PM »
" The idea of separating church and state came from people aimed at preventing the government from mandating a particular religious practice ---- NOT kicking God out of the public square entirely. More and more Christians are buying the lie that faith is merely a private matter that has no bearing on the workplace, relationships, how we vote, or how we're governed...."

Heretics do not believe God has a hand in the governing power of man just like during the formation of Socialism of Stalin and Lenin of the then defunct USSR, and yet their constituents are embracing their faith that God exist. Every country 'round the world embraces a religion of their own, some may be strictly imposed by the state while others are by freewill which God their constituents believe in. A lot of ISMS are abounding all over the world promising man's sanctity, salvation and well being, yet they confuse the present and upcoming generations. Which God is the true God? In the US, a national religion cannot be imposed by the state because of the democratic set up. Otherwise, another religious conflict will arise each bracing for recognition by the state. Just what had happened during the reign of the Holy Roman Empire when Christianity was declared and imposed as the imperial religion. It then insinuated a hundred-year war, and two thirty-year war born out of religious differences each seeking for recognition by the emperors in successions. While majority of the Americans embrace Christianity, still schism exists in various denominations. Why? Because they are making religious practices as business. They commercialize their faith in the guise of the God they believe in. While tithing is mentioned in the Chirstian bible, Catholics never adopt it ever since. Instead they extract fees for every sacraments that their faithful undergo. In fact Catholic faith have more sacraments recognized than the protestant for obvious reasons. Protestants are strict in imposing tithe among their followers in forms of pledges that they don't need more sacraments to extact money. They all mean business here to sustain with their very own existence. Try to think of it!

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Re: Moral Relativism?
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2008, 12:16:48 AM »
To Whom It May Concern,

The separation of church and state is not only misunderstood, it is also exceedingly important. That is probably one of the few points on which everyone on all sides of the debate can readily agree upon — their reasons for agreeing may differ, but they do concur that the separation of church and state is one of the key constitutional principles in American history.

Understanding the separation of church and state is complicated by the fact that we are using such a simplified phrase. There is, after all, no single “church.” There are many religious organizations in the United States taking different names — church, synagogue, temple, Kingdom Hall and more. There are also many corporate bodies that do not adopt such religious titles but which are nevertheless controlled by religious organizations — for example, Catholic hospitals.

Also, there is no single “state.” Instead, there are multiple levels of government at the federal, state, regional and local level. There is also a great variety of government organizations — commissions, departments, agencies and more. These can all have different levels of involvement and different relationships with the aforementioned religious organizations.

This is important because it underscores the fact that, in the “separation of church and state,” we cannot be talking about a single, literal church and a single, literal state. Those terms are metaphors, meant to point to something larger. The “church” should be construed as any organized religious body with its doctrines/dogmas and “state” should be construed as any governmental body, any government-run organization or any government-sponsored event.

Thus, a more accurate phrase than “separation of church and state” might be something like “separation of organized religion and civil authority,” because religious and civil authorities are not and should not be invested in the same people or organizations. In practice, this means that civil authority cannot dictate to or control organized religious bodies. The state cannot tell religious bodies what to preach, how to preach or when to preach. Civil authority must exercise a “hands off” approach, neither helping nor hindering religion.

Separation of church and state is a two-way street. It isn’t just about restricting what the government can do with religion, but also what religious bodies can do with the government. Religious groups cannot dictate to or control the government. They cannot cause the government to adopt their particular doctrines as policy for everyone, they cannot cause the government to restrict other groups, etc.

The biggest threat to religious freedom is not the government — or at least, not the government acting alone. We very rarely have a situation where secular government officials act to repress any particular religion or religion in general. More common are private religious organizations acting through the government by having their own doctrines and beliefs codified into law or policy.

Thus, the separation of church and state ensures that private citizens, when acting in the role of some government official, cannot have any aspect of their private religious beliefs imposed upon others. School teachers cannot promote their religion to other people’s children. Local officials cannot require certain religious beliefs on the part of government employees. Government leaders cannot make members of other religions feel like they are unwanted or are second-class citizens by using their position to promote particular religious beliefs.

This requires moral self-restraint on government officials, and even to a degree on private citizens — a self-restraint which is necessary for a religiously pluralistic society to survive without descending into religious civil war. It ensures that the government remains the government of all citizens, not the government of one denomination or one religious tradition. It ensures that political divisions not be drawn along religious lines, with Protestants battling Catholics or Christians battling Muslims for “their share” of the public purse.

The separation of church and state a key constitutional liberty which protects the American public from tyranny. It protects all people from the religious tyranny of any one religious group or tradition and it protects all people from a government intent on tyrannizing some or any religious groups.

In short, moral relativity is in basis of constitutionality, individuality, practicality and on ground with democratic rights. To which you and I part take of.

Practice what you preach. :)

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Re: Moral Relativism?
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2008, 12:18:50 AM »
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Re: Moral Relativism?
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2008, 11:46:51 PM »
should this thread need new title?

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