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An Atheist Professor of Philosophy
« on: September 03, 2008, 09:44:07 PM »
An Atheist Professor of Philosophy speaks to his Class on the Problem Science has with GOD, The ALMIGHTY.

He asks one of his new Christian students to stand and . . ..

Professor : You are a Christian, aren't you, son ?
Student    : Yes, sir.
Professor : So you Believe in GOD ?
Student    : Absolutely, sir.
Professor : Is GOD Good ?
Student    : Sure.
Professor : Is GOD ALL - POWERFUL ?
Student    : Yes.

Professor : My Brother died of Cancer even though he Prayed to GOD to Heal him.
                   Most of us would attempt to Help Others who are ill.
                   But GOD didn't.
                   How is this GOD Good then ? Hmm ?

( Student is silent )
 
Professor : You can't answer, can you ?
                   Let's start again, Young Fella.
                   Is GOD Good ?
Student    : Yes.
Professor : Is Satan good ?
Student    : No..
Professor : Where does Satan come from ?
Student    : From .. . . GOD . .. .
Professor : That's right.
                   Tell me son, is there evil in this World ?
Student    : Yes.
Professor : Evil is everywhere, isn't it ?
                   And GOD did make Everything. Correct ?
Student    : Yes.
Professor : So who created evil ?

( Student does not answer )

Professor : Is there Sickness ? Immorality ? Hatred ? Ugliness ?
                   All these terrible things exist in the World, don't they ?
Student    : Yes, sir.
Professor : So, who Created them ?
 
( Student has no answer )
 
Professor : Science says you have 5 Senses you use to Identify and Observe the World around you.
                   Tell me, son . . .. Have you ever Seen GOD ?
Student    : No, sir.
Professor : Tell us if you have ever Heard your GOD ?
Student    : No , sir.
Professor : Have you ever Felt your GOD, Tasted your GOD, Smelt your GOD ?
                   Have you ever had any Sensory Perception of GOD for that matter ?
Student    : No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't.
Professor : Yet you still Believe in HIM ?
Student    : Yes.
Professor : According to Empirical, Testable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says your GOD doesn't exist.
                   What do you say to that, son ?
Student    : Nothing. I only have my Faith.
Professor : Yes. Faith. And that is the Problem Science has.
Student    : Professor, is there such a thing as Heat ?
Professor : Yes.
Student    : And is there such a thing as Cold ?
Professor : Yes.
Student    : No sir. There isn't.

( The Lecture Theatre becomes very quiet with this turn of events )

Student    : Sir, you can have Lots of Heat, even More Heat, Superheat, Mega Heat, White Heat, a Little Heat or No Heat. But we don't have anything called Cold..
We can hit 458 Degrees below Zero which is No Heat, but we can't go any further after that.
There is no such thing as Cold.
Cold is only a Word we use to describe the Absence of Heat.
We cannot Measure Cold.
Heat is Energy.
Cold is Not the Opposite of Heat, sir, just the Absence of it.

( There is Pin - Drop Silence in the Lecture Theatre )
Student    : What about Darkness, Professor ? Is there such a thing as Darkness ?
Professor : Yes. What is Night if there isn't Darkness ?
Student    : You're wrong again, sir.
Darkness is the Absence of Something.
You can have Low Light, Normal Light , Bright Light, Flashing Light . . .
But if you have No Light Constantly, you have Nothing and it's called Darkness, isn't it ?
In reality, Darkness isn't.
If it is, were you would be able to make Darkness Darker, wouldn't you ?

Professor : So what is the point you are making, Young Man ?
Student    : Sir, my point is your Philosophical Premise is Flawed.
Professor : Flawed ? Can you explain how ?
Student    : Sir, you are working on the Premise of Duality.
You argue there is Life and then there is Death, a Good GOD and a Bad GOD.
You are viewing the Concept of GOD as something finite, something we can measure.
Sir, Science can't even explain a Thought.
It uses Electricity and Magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one.
To view Death as the Opposite of Life is to be ignorant of the fact that
Death cannot exist as a Substantive Thing. 
Death is Not the Opposite of Life : just the Absence of it.
Now tell me, Professor, do you Teach your Students that they Evolved from a Monkey ?
Professor : If you are referring to the Natural Evolutionary Process, yes, of course, I do.
Student    : Have you ever observed Evolution with your own eyes, sir ?

( The Professor shakes his head with a Smile, beginning to realize where the Argument is going )

Student    : Since no one has ever observed the Process of Evolution at work and
                   cannot even prove that this Process is an On - Going Endeavor,
                   are you not Teaching your Opinion, sir ?
                   Are you not a Scientist but a Preacher ?

( The Class is in Uproar )

Student    : Is there anyone in the Class who has ever Seen the Professor's Brain ?

( The Class breaks out into Laughter )

Student    : Is there anyone here who has ever Heard the Professor's Brain, Felt it, Touched or Smelt it ? . . .
                   No one appears to have done so.
                   So, according to the Established Rules of Empirical, Stable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says that
                   you have No Brain, sir.
                   With all due respect, sir, how do we then Trust your Lectures, sir ?

( The Room is Silent. The Professor stares at the Student, his face unfathomable

Professor : I guess you'll have to take them on Faith, son.
Student    : That is it sir . . .
                   the Link between Man & GOD is FAITH.
                   That is all that Keeps Things Moving & Alive.

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Re: An Atheist Professor of Philosophy
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2008, 10:43:15 AM »
clap, clap, clap! mabuhi si mikael!!!

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Re: An Atheist Professor of Philosophy
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2008, 04:25:59 PM »
This story will shatter every atheist's reluctance to accept the truth that there is God.

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Re: An Atheist Professor of Philosophy
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2008, 04:57:06 PM »
had forwarded it here in the office mike. they all like it!!!

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Re: An Atheist Professor of Philosophy
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2008, 01:53:48 PM »
Buwadsanga, you can also send this story through Tubag Bohol's "Send Topic" option found near the 'Print' option.

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Re: An Atheist Professor of Philosophy
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2008, 03:28:54 PM »
the best way to shatter every atheist's reluctance to accept that there is a God without any single word is to situate these people inside an airplane flying in a pitch dark sky in the middle of nowhere whose only source of light is the series of flashes from the lightning of an otherwise angry sky as the plane violently pitches and rolls right in the eye of the storm.

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Re: An Atheist Professor of Philosophy
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2008, 04:00:13 PM »
mangatubang gihapon na sila sa Judgment Seat of Christ....diloi jud ta mag-alig sa atong kaugalingon nga panghunahuna. AS the Lord says, "as the skies are higher that is my thought..."

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Re: An Atheist Professor of Philosophy
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2008, 04:50:12 PM »


Professor : Quote: My Brother died of Cancer even though he Prayed to GOD to Heal him. Most of us would attempt to Help Others who are But GOD didn't. Unquote

Michael,

This is an old idea. This is as old as the deep blue sea. Hehehe.... This idea caused the invention of religion because of the fear of death. In other words those people in the olden times like the Sumerians, the Persians and the Egyptians theorized this concept for the salvation of their body and soul. The ancient Egyptians especially the pharaohs carried with them the things they used on earth believing that they can still use it in the afterlife when they are resurrected. Religion put hope into their hearts! Moses copied it when he saved Israel from bondage in Egypt.     
                  


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Re: An Atheist Professor of Philosophy
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2008, 10:29:50 PM »
Religion defines what it means to be human because the belief of a religion and an All-knowing, All-powerful Supreme Being provides comfort for man. Man, throughout the continuum of Animals in God's green Earth, is the only one that toils and stresses about the concept of existentialism. Milieu to this are the question of where we came from, how did we get here, what will happen to us after death, will there be a resurrection or will there just be decomposition and decay--reverted back to the Earth and used as fodder by other living organisms.

From such basic questions comes the concept of religion; and led to the rise of polytheistic as well as monotheistic religions. All of which provides some sort of comfort to the mind of man that his very existence was, in all counts and purposes, was for something and was willed by a Great Being beyond his own understanding. Afterall, all men, either great or small, want to know that they lived and completed a purpose in their lives.

Religion, provides the social as well as cultural netting for man. It provides a sense of comfort to his over-active brain; one that is unsurpassed by any other animal in the continuum of Eukaryota or Prokaryota. This concept is universal throughout mankind. We see semblances of it in Egypt, with the Pharaohs building huge monuments to themselves and to proclaim their Divinity and or Love of the Panthenon of Dieties. Psychologically, it worked for their civilization, because:
1) Pharaoh was recognized as a Living, Breathing God in the body of a Man; who, upon death, would join the Gods.
2) The belief system and the monuments to Pharaoh and dieties provided a social and religious system that provided for the Egyptians and gave them a sense of relief and purpose in their own lives. For fear of being judged wrongly by the Divine in the afterlife.
3) Pharaohs complied and believed in the notion of their own Divinity so as to support and legitimize their own rule. And their power. In their mind and understanding, their position as Pharaoh was proof of Divinity. In Pharaoh's hands was the power to extinguish life, conquer nations, create and build temples, providing for food and grain for the people. All of which, to the thinking of the ancient Egyptian commoner and slaves, were 'superhuman' traits. And thus, thought of Divine.

We see the same in Aztec, Incan, Roman, Chinese, Indian, and other civilizations around the world.



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Re: An Atheist Professor of Philosophy
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2008, 10:50:28 PM »
Mike,

I like this particular article because it is a good tactic to use when an atheist questions one's faith. And puts one into a defensive.

I've had conversations with atheists and many of whom are friends of mine. The truth to it is that atheists just do not believe. They cannot fathom the concept of a Divine; many of them have a similar claim that Religion is a brainwashing technique that has enslaved Mankind and prevented it from reaching its full potential of understanding.

I am always intrigued in their thinking and their reasons and their refutes. In these kinds of situations we must take their words with salt. Don't take it to heart.

The way I do it is to listen to them. Most of them will never accept our point of view as to them, we are the ones that are wrong and brainwashed. Or as they would term it as 'poisoned by the opiate of the masses'.

They will tell us 'so what will you do when there really is no God? And that there is no Salvation? And no afterlife?'

I answer them, "Well, since I will be dead, I won't have any fear or consciousness of it. If there is no afterlife, then I'll never know because I'll be dead. As when we die, all neural activity ceases. Absolute nothingness. No worries, No pains. Nothing"

And I ask them in return, "Now, tell me, what will you do when you die and you wake up and find out that there REALLY is a GOD. A God that you rejected and denied all your life?"

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Re: An Atheist Professor of Philosophy
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2008, 08:45:39 AM »
whats your point WAY NADA? to believe or not believe lang naman diba?

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Re: An Atheist Professor of Philosophy
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2008, 10:28:46 AM »
whats your point WAY NADA? to believe or not believe lang naman diba?

My answer is correct as it is being elaborated by Lorenzo in his answers too. Let's go back to my idea and I said;

"This is an old idea. This is as old as the deep blue sea. Hehehe.... This idea caused the invention of religion because of the fear of death. In other words those people in the olden times like the Sumerians, the Persians and the Egyptians theorized this concept for the salvation of their body and soul. The ancient Egyptians especially the pharaohs carried with them the things they used on earth believing that they can still use it in the afterlife when they are resurrected. Religion put hope into their hearts! Moses copied it when he saved Israel from bondage in Egypt."

Here's the point:

I challenge everybody here to this question! Is it not true that primitive people created the idea of having a religion? Why? The answer is because of the fear of death. Modern man rationalizes the idea today with its teachings and its dogmas and doctrines. My reply to Mike is only telling the truth by explaining the origin of religion. I am not questioning each one's belief in God!

In the story of the Hebrews their religion was originally from the Egyptians because 
they were slaves in Egypt before until Moses rescued them from bondage. Moses was educated in Egypt but when he rescued the Hebrews and brought them to Canaan he did not copy the religion of the Egyptians but he introduced to the Hebrews a monotheistic religion. The worship of one God! But not necessarily abandoning all its paganistic rituals. For example is the living sacrifice of an animal or farm produce like Cain did. Moses also copied some doctrines from religions older than Judaism like the doctrine of the 'children of light and the children of darkness'. This is from the old Zoroaster religion of the Persians. St. Augustine who was not originally Christian copied this doctrine from the Manichean religion, an off-shoot of Zoroastrianism. St. Augustine is one of the great teachers of Catholicism was originally Manichean and was converted to Christianity. He hated the Jews very much.       




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Re: An Atheist Professor of Philosophy
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2008, 10:48:54 AM »
Way Nada,

It is our action of analyzing religion itself, and the processes it has made and or practices occluded in time that makes religion innately Human. Every single human being ranging from ethnicity to ethnicity, race to race, has its own form of religious practice: from monotheism to polytheism.

This is a species wide phenomena.

Even the secluded civilizations of Meso-America: The Mayans, Incas, Aztecs, Ahuatls, Toltecs, and the Amazonian have their own form of religious practice and concept of the afterlife. Despite lack of contact with Europa, Asia, Africa etc until the arrival of Europeans in 1492. Yet their civilizations and their religious practices developed almost similarly and identically to that of the Egyptians in terms of dietific pantheons.

The concept of DEVA RAJA or 'God King' which is identified in Hindu cultures as well as seen in Ancient Persia, and in the Chinese Dynasties starting from Chin ending to the Qing, and to the Roman, the Egyptian etc had this concept. Even classical European civilizations had a similar concept: Monarchical Absolutism. The belief that the King received authority to rule over a people and subjugated peoples by God Himself.

I am not attacking any religion, just analyzing, like Way Nada, the concept of Religion. And the practice of it.

One cannot help but be amazed by it.


Bran Lorenzo,

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Re: An Atheist Professor of Philosophy
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2008, 01:50:47 PM »
i think the problem with an atheist is they dont want to understand reasons from God believers. they only want to believe what they understand.

if sometimes they sound so right, it's because of evil around us!

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