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Japan to accept 1,000 Indonesian nurses, caregivers over next 2 years

Saturday 17th May, 06:17 AM JST

TOKYO —Japan and Indonesia agreed Friday that Japan will begin accepting a total of 1,000 nurses and nursing-care specialists from the Southeast Asian nation over the next two years from July, government officials said. The move came after the Diet approved a bilateral economic partnership agreement to that effect at a plenary session of the House of Councillors, the upper house, earlier in the day.

In the first six months, candidates will receive Japanese-language training and work as caregivers or assistant nurses at hospitals or nursing homes for the elderly. If the nursing-care workers and nurses pass national exams within three and four years respectively, the workers will be able to remain in Japan. But they will be forced to leave the country if they fail the exams.

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Sir, do we have no agreement with the Japanese gov't. in this case?  I firmly believe that we have the best export nurses throughout.
Hope.. that the Japanese are not only taking our friendly,educated Pinays as their loyal to death housewives. :( Sayang!
Kaluyahon gjod ning atong Pilipinas oi....here in Germany they have Korean nurses under contract of employment.

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Here in our prefecture we have numbers of workers from Thailand,chinese than Filipinos.Why kaya?

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Here in our prefecture we have numbers of workers from Thailand,chinese than Filipinos.Why kaya?

Hi Aya,

Nangumusta na baya ko nimo kay nakabalik na ko.

The approval of our bilateral agreement with Japan, the Japan-Philippine Economic Partnership Agreement, is being stonewalled at the Senate kay gansi kuno ta kung wala na'y tariff o tax ang trade between Philippines and Japan kay ilabay lang daw sa Japan ang iyang toxic waste sa Pilipinas.

This economic partnership agreement is supposed to liberalize not only the trade of goods and services but also of labor, including our nurses and health care workers, on a staggered basis.

Pero ang ingon sa Senado, bentaha lang daw ni nga agreement sa Japan, dili sa ato...



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Sir, do we have no agreement with the Japanese gov't. in this case?  I firmly believe that we have the best export nurses throughout.
Hope.. that the Japanese are not only taking our friendly,educated Pinays as their loyal to death housewives. :( Sayang!
Kaluyahon gjod ning atong Pilipinas oi....here in Germany they have Korean nurses under contract of employment.

Arroyo had made about three official trips to Japan to push for the acceptance of our nurses and care-givers that she claimed are of world-class calibre.

The Japan-Philippine Economic Partnership Agreement (JPEPA), was drafted to provide the legal framework for a freer exchange of goods, services and labor between Philippines and Japan. The final stage for the implementation of this treaty, the ratification by the Philippine Senate, is being stalled on charges that the agreement is unbalanced and will prejudice Philippine interests.

Also, the Philippine government finds the conditions for accepting the nurses and caregivers too restrictive--since they will enter Japan as trainees and not as employees covered by full labor benefits.

Rather than digging their heels and making a lot of noise that never gets conveyed to the other side, the rest of our ASEAN neighbors are negotiating patiently with Japan to conclude bilateral free trade agreements that are mutually acceptable.

That's why Indonesia, which actually came late into the bargaining table, has come home with the bacon ahead of us.

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As I understand it Sir....we have really a government nga "bugo ug panabot ug dili kinahambog ba hinoun kadako". It is normal, that  every foreign workers must have to undergo training before doing some responsible assignment and important activities, right?  Could be that they are afraid not to get a big piece of cake in behalf of this agreement. Na mirisi hinoun! Pitiful for those who really want to work for existence where in our country is more than as restrictive survival.

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As I understand it Sir....we have really a government nga "bugo ug panabot ug dili kinahambog ba hinoun kadako". It is normal, that  every foreign workers must have to undergo training before doing some responsible assignment and important activities, right?  Could be that they are afraid not to get a big piece of cake in behalf of this agreement. Na mirisi hinoun! Pitiful for those who really want to work for existence where in our country is more than as restrictive survival.

There is a saying, "Beggars can't be choosers." It just seems not right for us to think that Japan needs this agreement more than we do. Japan can always choose from our neighboring countries and beyond for their trade and labor needs--and Indonesia has already clinched the deal ahead of us. Next in line perhaps would be Malaysia, Thailand, and even Vietnam...

Maayo unta kung Japan lang ang adtuan sa atong nurses kay 4 1/2 hours lang from Mactan.

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Bitaw Sir sobra ka pas KOREK!  Sus....magpa-presyo pod ug mahal ang Pilipinas! Sayang lang! 
OT: only  4 1/2 hrs. ra diay lupad diha, how expensive is the fare? tnxs!

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Bitaw Sir sobra ka pas KOREK!  Sus....magpa-presyo pod ug mahal ang Pilipinas! Sayang lang! 
OT: only  4 1/2 hrs. ra diay lupad diha, how expensive is the fare? tnxs!

Hi Bambi,

Basta ug favorable ang hangin, mga in-ani ra siguro kadugay. Ug dili, mga 5 hours man siguro. Last time, I paid about US$ 630 dollars for a round-trip ticket. Ari ka diri?

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Japan fascinates me seeing TV reports (crazy life mixtures) and shocked me hearing how expensive life there...how much more for the tourists?  To visit Japan would be nice hmmmmmmm :-\ I will start to play lottery, Sir. Well, let's just meet in Bohol and drink "Dornfelder" together, okey?
Will be in Paris by August and in a hope that Mr. Lindy will share a few minutes from his Paris holidays to meet me.  Mag EB ming duha didto pohon.
Middle of August, we will transfer to a 130 sq.meters domicile for the 2 of us and our 2 cats..the rent is quite expensive but it is 5 minutes walk to where I work (perting mahala nas gasolina diri), I must have to sale my Toyota "Aygo" car which my hubby gave me as Pinaskohan 3 years ago. You see...I even driving a Japanese car!

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Japan fascinates me seeing TV reports (crazy life mixtures) and shocked me hearing how expensive life there...how much more for the tourists?  To visit Japan would be nice hmmmmmmm :-\ I will start to play lottery, Sir. Well, let's just meet in Bohol and drink "Dornfelder" together, okey?
Will be in Paris by August and in a hope that Mr. Lindy will share a few minutes from his Paris holidays to meet me.  Mag EB ming duha didto pohon.
Middle of August, we will transfer to a 130 sq.meters domicile for the 2 of us and our 2 cats..the rent is quite expensive but it is 5 minutes walk to where I work (perting mahala nas gasolina diri), I must have to sale my Toyota "Aygo" car which my hubby gave me as Pinaskohan 3 years ago. You see...I even driving a Japanese car!

Tokyo and London--ga-compete lang ni silang duha sa position as the most expensive city in the world. I think Tokyo is No. 1 most of the time. Fortunately, I live in the outskirts where cost of living is about half...

Murag lami paminawon ng Dornfelder... looking forward to your pasalubong, whenever fate will bring us together to Bohol...

Bitaw, diri sa Japan, ga-train na lang kasagara sa tawo kay mahal na ang gasolina. Mas energy-efficient pa nang imong avatar, kanang kabaw, pero di man tingali na pwede diha..

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By the way, nia diay ko'y gisulat nga interview bahin aning pagkalangan sa approval sa agreement nga makapadala na unta ug nurses and health care workers sa Japan...

Conferido talks on delay in caregiver deployment
PHILIPPINES TODAY

Interview by Benigno D. Tutor, Jr.

Philippine Labor Attache Reydeluz D. Conferido has been through the most tumultuous time in his Tokyo stint, arduously trying to shore up the country’s employment niche in Japan’s entertainment industry since he assumed his post on November 1, 2004.


Labor Attache Reydeluz D. Conferido reminds us that other countries will not sit still while the Philippine Senate drags its heels on the bilateral free trade agreement with Japan allowing a limited number of Filipino nurses and caregivers.

However, Japan finally enforced its Action Plan on Anti-Human Trafficking through a revised Immigration Law passed in March 2005, which effectively halted the deployment of Filipino entertainers to Japan by the end of that year. For the entire 2006, not more than 5,000 Filipinos have been allowed to Japan to work as entertainers.

With the signing of Japan-Philippine Economic Partnership Agreement (JPEPA) on September 9, 2006, Conferido had hoped to usher in a new era for Philippine labor deployment, focusing on the more high-end caregivers and nurses. But the process of unhinging this frontier is stalled at the Senate, whose approval is needed for the first 400 nurses and 600 caregivers to be allowed to Japan.

Conferido recently gave Philippines Today an updated picture of the situation.

Q1: How do you foresee the vote in the Senate on the Japan-Philippine Economic Partnership Agreement (JPEPA) to go?

R: Lately, the dynamics in our Philippine legislature have shown so many twists and turns that it would be foolhardy for anyone to boast that he could read everything definitively. However, as a believer in our democratic institutions, I am optimistic that however the dynamics flow, our legislators would ultimately vote on the basis of what they see as in the best interest of our country and in accordance with the light that God gives them.

Q2: What are specific items in the JPEPA are problematic for the Senate?

R: From what we could read in the newspapers and according to those who have attended some of the public hearings that the Senate has conducted on JPEPA, the questions that have been posed against the ratification of the JPEPA are based on the erroneous perception that the JPEPA – because it provided zero tariff to certain products that may be considered waste – could be used as justification to dump toxic waste products from Japan to the Philippines, and the feeling by certain sectors that the concessions and gains in agricultural trade did not turn in favor of the Philippines.

There are also sentiments that JPEPA negotiations should have linked the treatment of our entertainers in the discussion of the movement of natural persons.

The issue on toxic waste does not have a strong ground because JPEPA recognizes the right of the parties to enforce their respective environmental laws in relation to the import and export of products. Thus, the Philippines has the right to deny acceptance of any importation that violates our environmental laws. Moreover, JPEPA upholds the Basel Convention on the Control of Transboundary Movements of Hazardous Waste and Their Disposal. Thus, the parties cannot ignore the environmental safeguards guaranteed by that convention just because of JPEPA.

On the issue of the fairness of the outcome of negotiations in the agriculture sector, I am not an expert on this matter so I will not dare comment on it. However, what I know is that the lead agencies in the various negotiation areas conducted extensive consultations with the affected sectors and negotiated on the basis of the inputs they have managed to secure from those consultations.

As in most cases, negotiations do not always result 100 percent on what we want to achieve. They involve a process of give and take that takes into account not only present day interests but also of long term views. Sometimes you make concessions in the short term so you could achieve better results in the long haul.

As regards the entertainers, the parties have agreed that the issues involving them are separate matters that are better dealt outside of JPEPA.

Q3: What happens if the Senate votes the JPEPA down?

R: This is a highly theoretical question. But should this happen, our political framework provides that the agreement could not be effective. Thus, the parties have the option to re-negotiate or to adopt a stand still option. But I believe that our legislators would take into account the hard work and good faith invested by negotiators of both countries to come up with the agreement, the imprimatur of the countries’ leaders, and the future relationship of the Philippines and Japan.

Q4: I heard that after JPEPA was signed on September 9, 2006, other Southeast Asian countries have followed suit, demanding that their health care workers be given access to Japan as well. How does this development affect us?

R: This is expected. Actually, Japan had earlier proposed a framework economic partnership agreement with the whole of ASEAN. The bilateral negotiation initiatives have been pursued because the multilateral process of trade liberalization has suffered some setbacks. But it would be difficult to turn the world around away from globalization and further trade liberalization. It is just like a rush of tide that finds various means to seek its level, in the process going around various hurdles.

And with globalization and information technology revolution, information spreads around fast, nothing is hidden, and all concerned are free to utilize those information to pursue their respective interests.

This means that our government and all concerned have to realize that others will not stand still if we do. Others will pursue their interests and compete with us. Thus, we have to act fast on our interests and utilize agreements to our advantage. We have to understand our advantages and leverages and use them to protect our cause. We could also use those information to invoke fairness from among those with whom we deal. We should make them realize that like them our people receive information from all over the world and will take the best opportunities presented to them.

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Just today, we received a newsletter issue from our Japanese partners (Pigeon Corporation, baby products).

It is about demographics and new business opportunity. It says according to Japanese census, senior population (who needs nursing care) outnumbered newborns.

Due to this new opportunity in Japan, Pigeon Corporation was prompted to divert/shift thier business focus to "elderly care" products, over the "baby care" ranges.

Low birth rate is blamed on current Japanese lifestyle, where career is foremost priority among the new generation.

It also says that Japanese banks launched loans to private companies who wished to open a nursing care, facilities and retirement homes for elderly citizens in Japan.

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Just today, we received a newsletter issue from our Japanese partners (Pigeon Corporation, baby products).

It is about demographics and new business opportunity. It says according to Japanese census, senior population (who needs nursing care) outnumbered newborns.

Due to this new opportunity in Japan, Pigeon Corporation was prompted to divert/shift thier business focus to "elderly care" products, over the "baby care" ranges.

Low birth rate is blamed on current Japanese lifestyle, where career is foremost priority among the new generation.

It also says that Japanese banks launched loans to private companies who wished to open a nursing care, facilities and retirement homes for elderly citizens in Japan.

Hi Macky,

Japan is called a greying society for good reason. In ten to twenty years' time, there will be more senior citizens than working people. In fact, for the first time in 2006, Japan's population growth was negative. There is a sense of crisis now. Though Prime Minister Yasuo Fukuda at 72 is himself is an old man, he is widely perceived as having betrayed his own generational interests by not doing anything about the pension mess. Old people are taking to the streets because payout for their welfare and health needs are being cut by the government.

Some Japanese elderly citizens are opting to retire outside the country so that their measly pension will go a longer way.

Gusto nimo magbantay tag mga Hapon nga tiguwang sa Panglao, Macks? A retirement home for Japanese retirees perhaps?

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Good job Sir Bennelyne...  I Salute!

Mr. R. D. Conferido's citation: "We have to act fast on our interests and utilize agreements to our advantage"...Hope not yet too late.  Well, anyway, Japanese pensionists are also coming to our country for good. Have a future neighbors, adjacent to my lot acquired in Dauis, there is a big house with accomodation purposes built-up by those Japanese couple. I think..need not to visit Japan Sir, we have I guess, a second Japanese invasion.  The Phil. government must have to be wise....it is better they will build a luxury home for the aged to those foreigners who settled here. A great solution/help of our  high jobless nurses,  maminus-minusan ning atong mga paryente nga gipanamastamasan sa mga nakaminus nga bahog ilok sa gawas.

Sir Bennelyne, "greying society" exist not only in Japan, this is the no. 1 problem in Germany too.  The government has increased the "kindergeld"- child allowances but not all of them are child-friendly.  Most of them...choose to have a luxury life - German ways: Good paid work,  expensive car, beautiful house, 2x vacation a year, a pet and kids are unwanted. On the otherside, living in Germany now is not really costly as in Tokio and London (where my sister works been there 4x - sus...magniwang gjod ko inig-uli diri losing lot of pounds  ;D)...but you must have really to work hard, life here is not a sugar licking too.

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Hi Macky,

Japan is called a greying society for good reason. In ten to twenty years' time, there will be more senior citizens than working people. In fact, for the first time in 2006, Japan's population growth was negative. There is a sense of crisis now. Though Prime Minister Yasuo Fukuda at 72 is himself is an old man, he is widely perceived as having betrayed his own generational interests by not doing anything about the pension mess. Old people are taking to the streets because payout for their welfare and health needs are being cut by the government.

Some Japanese elderly citizens are opting to retire outside the country so that their measly pension will go a longer way.

Gusto nimo magbantay tag mga Hapon nga tiguwang sa Panglao, Macks? A retirement home for Japanese retirees perhaps?

Back in 2004, Malaysia has launched its government sponsored "retirement facilities" targeting Canadian, British, Australian and Japanese pensioners.

Malaysia is dubbed as the "Cheapest Retirement Paradise". They offer tax free living package with free 10 years renewable visa, doctor's visit and live-in domestic help. Facilities includes spas, golf course, some are situated in white beaches. Malaysia is reputed of having clean and crime free cities. Smart retirees simply would choose Malaysia, to extend more value out of thier pension.

Above facts means we don't stand a chance. Building such facility in Panglao is like putting a Sari-sari store beside a Mall since Malaysia is just an hour by flight. Moreover, we have an embarassing scarcity of doctors to a ratio of 1:10,000.

Perhaps a small scale facility targeting Boholano or Filipino retirees from the US is more viable.

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Hi Macky,

When I came back to Japan last week, I already met three Japanese groups who have been to Bohol to see the Chocolate Hills in the last three months. As soon as I arrived at my office, I had a group of clients waiting for me and surprise of all surprises, when I told them they were lucky to find me as I had just arrived from Tagbilaran, they said they were there just a week earlier... And we exchanged fond memories of the visit.

You see, last year, Bohol had a great exposure here in Japan, one of which was the docu on the tarsier that was aired on primetime TV.

Bohol has a magical charm of its own that is enough to attract visitors to our enchanted islands. There are many nature-loving Japanese, those into scuba-diving, into river cruising (this is one of the main attractions of Tokyo Disneyland), kayaking, etc.

But you are right, a lot of things remain to be desired for our tourism to even get anywhere near Malaysia's volume (16 million vs our 3 million). Top on the list is the exorbitant airfare (I paid US$650 for a return flight between Narita and Mactan, and most comparable destinations charge one-half to one-fourth less), inadequate accommodation facilities, sloppy service, and so on and so forth...

Nonetheless, given the actual increase of tourism traffic to Bohol, even without significant changes to the above conditions, I believe there are a lot of opportunities to do business...

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Back in 2004, Malaysia has launched its government sponsored "retirement facilities" targeting Canadian, British, Australian and Japanese pensioners.

Malaysia is dubbed as the "Cheapest Retirement Paradise". They offer tax free living package with free 10 years renewable visa, doctor's visit and live-in domestic help. Facilities includes spas, golf course, some are situated in white beaches. Malaysia is reputed of having clean and crime free cities. Smart retirees simply would choose Malaysia, to extend more value out of thier pension.

Above facts means we don't stand a chance. Building such facility in Panglao is like putting a Sari-sari store beside a Mall since Malaysia is just an hour by flight. Moreover, we have an embarassing scarcity of doctors to a ratio of 1:10,000.

Perhaps a small scale facility targeting Boholano or Filipino retirees from the US is more viable.

Sir Macky, didto na lang diay ta mopuyo sa Malaysia kon mao man gani? We must also have to give our country a chance. To much changes are needed and things to learn, wouldn't be late to compete others.  I knew lot of mixed couples who migrated to our country not only because the love to their Filipina  wives but they just simply like and learn to love our Philippines despite of those negative realities and some other inconveniences. It could be that this opposite shocking Philippine life fascinates and wake up their interest? These foreigners contributed a bit of our economic growth, di ba? Our "crab mentality" is beyond comparison, mao man gani nga beaten ta sa ubang progressive Asian countries.  Sayang, we've been the no. 1 before! Who is to blame? :(

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If compared to a runner, we have stumbled. Our opponents are already far ahead of the race. We have lots of energy to burn and efforts to be in the competitive top.

With constant accelleration and fighting spirit, I know we can catch up, though we can not be the number one.

Me and you plays an important part of this race. Your every effort counts, your patriotism is the fighting spirit. While the race is still on we can not consider ourselves a failure.

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