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Swine Flu Panic in America
« on: October 25, 2009, 03:56:10 PM »
US declares swine flu 'emergency'

President Barack Obama has declared the current outbreak of swine flu in the United States a national emergency. White House officials say the announcement gives medical officials more freedom to tackle the disease - allowing them to bypass certain federal requirements when implementing emergency procedures.

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« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2009, 10:12:04 AM »
Most of the patients before discharge are
 given the shot unless there's contraindication.
Pero ako dili ko modawat ana nga shot
 kay  nahibawo ko sa chemical components ana
 dili maayo, so as a nurse I gladly administer it
 to those who choose to have it.

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Re: Swine Flu Panic in America
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2009, 02:17:28 PM »
Most of the patients before discharge are
 given the shot unless there's contraindication.
Pero ako dili ko modawat ana nga shot
 kay  nahibawo ko sa chemical components ana
 dili maayo, so as a nurse I gladly administer it
 to those who choose to have it.
Ate Stateville sa among school district gipang immunize tanan estudyante gikan pre-k hangtud senior high school. Wala namo gipa immunize among mga anak wa mi mopirma sa ilang gipadala nga consent letter kay matud pud sa ubang pediatrician wala daw ni taas nga study nga shot ug unsay long term effect ani. Daghan baya mi ing choose nga dili pabakunahan kay mao gyud ni among concern.

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Re: Swine Flu Panic in America
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2009, 03:54:54 PM »
hala maglibog man sad ta ug pabakuhanan  ba atong anak
unsa di ay side effets?
dili di ay ka mahadlok kel
ako kay aho pabakunahan aho bugoy oy


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Re: Swine Flu Panic in America
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2009, 03:58:15 PM »
Ayaw mog tuo sa swine flu. Gipaukyab na karon aron mahalin lang bag-o nga vacuna ang nadescobre sa America.

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Re: Swine Flu Panic in America
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2009, 04:03:18 PM »
Paminawon sa namo ang result sa gipabakunahan na ug unsa usa ni namo pabakunahan ang mga bata aning H1N1 Jan. Ing follow ra mi sa uban diri oi kay mismo pediatrician murag wa man nila gyud pugsa ang kinsay ing opted nga di sa pabakuna.


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Re: Swine Flu Panic in America
« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2009, 04:04:13 PM »
Ayaw mog tuo sa swine flu. Gipaukyab na karon aron mahalin lang bag-o nga vacuna ang nadescobre sa America.
Naa kay point ani Sir.

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Re: Swine Flu Panic in America
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2009, 04:55:12 AM »
Madato ug samot si Rumsfeld!



KOREK ka Manay!!!

daghan na ko bakuna oi! mag away nalang ning sakit di maka duol nako kay nagkagulijang na ni akong bakuna diri! Kanang swine flu??? patiran ra na sa akong Tuberculosis!!!

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Re: Swine Flu Panic in America
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2009, 05:52:26 AM »
Padal-an tika ug email, naglisod ko ug post kay ang text colored. There was analysis of the swine flu the impotent vaccine and the people behind the whole business is non other than Rumsfeld.

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Re: Swine Flu Panic in America
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2009, 06:51:10 AM »
Padal-an tika ug email, naglisod ko ug post kay ang text colored. There was analysis of the swine flu the impotent vaccine and the people behind the whole business is non other than Rumsfeld.

Ms. Tess. magpa inject ka ba pod ani? Unsa man imong hunahuna sa atong duha ka klase para niani?

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« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2009, 07:23:11 AM »
The swine flu vaccine is nothing but a regular flu vaccine, which is annually given to patients that are susceptible. If the patient is immunocompromised then it would be contraindicated. H1N1 is just a strain of H1N virus, which mutates annually. There have been about 100 deaths thus far in the United States related to H1N1 complications. Most of the deaths are children and/or young adults.

We can only provide symptomatic care, but taking high yield anti-virals (Tamiflu, Oseltamavir, Zanamivir) should be effective, as indicated by the NIH and CDC.



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« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2009, 07:31:26 AM »
Ate Stateville sa among school district gipang immunize tanan estudyante gikan pre-k hangtud senior high school. Wala namo gipa immunize among mga anak wa mi mopirma sa ilang gipadala nga consent letter kay matud pud sa ubang pediatrician wala daw ni taas nga study nga shot ug unsay long term effect ani. Daghan baya mi ing choose nga dili pabakunahan kay mao gyud ni among concern.

Raquel,

In defense of the school districts that are vying for this strategic policy, the reason why they are doing this--in particular concerning the highly vulnerable population (young adults/ children and the elderly) as a preventative (prophylaxis).

Children within the age fo 7-18 attend schools (elementary to high) and are in close proximity to one another, and due to the congestion, there is easy transferability between students of aerosolized antigens. Bacterial, viral, can occur. That is why they are implementing vira vaccines in schools, the H1N1 flu vaccine is nothing but part of the vaccination program in schools to prevent any viral outbreaks that may devastate the population. It is all preventative.

And concerning the vaccine, the swine flu in the vaccines have been genetically debilitated, their protein cores have been dessicated therefore their strength has been debilitated, making it easily tagged by the body's COMP system, our antigen-antibody recognizing system, which is responsible for producing specific antibodies against specific antigens that are invasive in form. Due to the virus' debilitated form, its ability to evade the antigen-antibody system is weakened, making it a target of the host's macrophagial system, which is an essential part of the body's immune defense (specific and non-specific), therefore making it vulnerable to the NKCs (natural killer cells), neutrophils, eosinophils, band cells, and other post-progenitor WBCs.

In the end, the patient develops specific antibodies to the antigens, and a buffened immune system.
Host defense is augmented. Strengthened.

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« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2009, 08:11:33 AM »
Ate Stateville sa among school district gipang immunize tanan estudyante gikan pre-k hangtud senior high school. Wala namo gipa immunize among mga anak wa mi mopirma sa ilang gipadala nga consent letter kay matud pud sa ubang pediatrician wala daw ni taas nga study nga shot ug unsay long term effect ani. Daghan baya mi ing choose nga dili pabakunahan kay mao gyud ni among concern.
You and your husband made a very smart decision for your children
See below the information I would like to share with you;
     What's in a Vaccine?
   Most people are not aware that vaccines typically
contain in addition to the viral and bacterial RNA or DNA,
many of the following fillers (according to Dr. Joseph Mercola)
aluminum hydroxide, aluminum phosphate, ammonium sulfate,
amphotericin B, animal tissues;pig blood, horse blood,
rabbit brain, dog kidney, monkey kidney, chick embryo,
chicken egg, duck egg, calf(bovine) serum betapropiolactone,
fetal bovine serum,  formaldehyde,
formalin gelatin, glycerol,
human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue)
hydrolized gelatin, monosodium glutamate (MSG),
neomycin, neomycin sulfate, phenol red indicator
phenoxyethanol (antifreeze),
potassium diphosphate, potassium monophosphate,
polymyxin B, polysorbate 20, polysorbate 80,
porcine (pig) pancreatic hydrolysate of casein,
residual MRC5 proteins, sorbitol,
sucrose thimerosal (mercury)
tri(n)butylphosphate, Vero cells,
washed sheep red blood cells and more .

Tan-aw ug balik ang formaldehyde para na sa
   mga patay gamit pag embalsamar
   ang mercury makadamage kaayo na sa
   utok (neurological damage)

Unya moingon ang news kono rising
 epidemic ang autism, hmmm.

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« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2009, 11:31:11 AM »
Salamat, State ining imong info.  Basta ako di man jud ko magpa bakuna.

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« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2009, 11:39:10 AM »
Last nakong bakuna Grace katong before ko moanhi diri kay requirements man lagi. Di na jud ko kay grabeh akong reaction adto.Nagka vertigo ko nga hay mokurog jud ko makaremember adtong akong reaction sa bakuna.

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« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2009, 11:42:12 AM »
I have nothing against meds for other people pero sa ako, Quel, ay di lang ko.  Na injectionan lang adtong na emergency ko but kon naa koy choice, di jud ko anang mga bakuna.  First and foremost reason kay taslakan kaayo ko! ;D

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« Reply #17 on: November 02, 2009, 02:47:01 AM »
You and your husband made a very smart decision for your children
See below the information I would like to share with you;
     What's in a Vaccine?
   Most people are not aware that vaccines typically
contain in addition to the viral and bacterial RNA or DNA,
many of the following fillers (according to Dr. Joseph Mercola)
aluminum hydroxide, aluminum phosphate, ammonium sulfate,
amphotericin B, animal tissues;pig blood, horse blood,
rabbit brain, dog kidney, monkey kidney, chick embryo,
chicken egg, duck egg, calf(bovine) serum betapropiolactone,
fetal bovine serum,  formaldehyde,
formalin gelatin, glycerol,
human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue)
hydrolized gelatin, monosodium glutamate (MSG),
neomycin, neomycin sulfate, phenol red indicator
phenoxyethanol (antifreeze),
potassium diphosphate, potassium monophosphate,
polymyxin B, polysorbate 20, polysorbate 80,
porcine (pig) pancreatic hydrolysate of casein,
residual MRC5 proteins, sorbitol,
sucrose thimerosal (mercury)
tri(n)butylphosphate, Vero cells,
washed sheep red blood cells and more .

Tan-aw ug balik ang formaldehyde para na sa
   mga patay gamit pag embalsamar
   ang mercury makadamage kaayo na sa
   utok (neurological damage)

Unya moingon ang news kono rising
 epidemic ang autism, hmmm.

Depende ra man na, Ma'am.
There are two types of vaccines, available, Ma'am.
Live and Attenuated.
Live forms are ones that cause insidious onset--but provide the body with the necessary antibodies, best given for healthy individuals and are contrindicated for immunocompromised patients.
Then there are Attenuated forms of vaccines. Weak viruses that are placed in bacteriphage capsules and are intradermally administered into the patient, weak enough to not cause a major immune-host reponse, but effective enough to allow the body's COMP immune system to produce approproiate memory B cells and with it antibody-coating systems to provide host immunity in later exposures of the same viral form in the future.



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« Reply #18 on: November 02, 2009, 02:52:46 AM »
Note Ma'am,

that it was through live-attenuated vaccines of Small Pox in the 1960s-1970s that led to the total eradication of Small Pox from the face of the Earth.

It was  a massive UN-WHO (United Nations-World Health Organization) led campaign. And in 1979, the last case of Small Pox was heard, and it was in East Africa.

It was through a vaccination program that has eradicated Poliomyelitis/Poliovirus (the virus that caused Polio) in children and young adults, it was through an effective global vaccination program that eradicated Small Pox from the face of the Earth. Small pox was the viral forms that caused the deaths of millions of native americans in Norht America, as well as hundreds of millions of peoples throughout the span of human history.

And it was through a viral vaccination program that we, Humans, have defeated our ancient foe.

It is also through viral vaccination program that we have decreased and lowered flu-related deaths throughout the united states and the world. It is also through the vaccination programs that we have reduced the mortality rates due to the plethora of viral infections out there (paramoxyviridae, orthoviridae, cocksakieviridae, HPV, EBV, HSV (T1,2) etc etc.)


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Re: Swine Flu Panic in America
« Reply #19 on: November 02, 2009, 04:06:02 AM »
Salamat, State ining imong info.  Basta ako di man jud ko magpa bakuna.


oy naa na lagi ka grazie

pa vaccine na lang grace oy kay prevention is still better than cure ra ba gud
ako mag pa vaccine pako naka pa vaccine naman ko sa una ana sa seasonal flu wa pa ko ana H1N1 kay next week pa man diri para sa tanan
dapat gani ka pa vaccine ug hepa A & B  ako dugay na ko nagpa vaccine ana kay requirements man to sa mga MED.TECH. nga mo intren nga mag pa vaccine gud sa ato mga mga natawo ug 1990 vaccinated na sila tanan ug hepa A&B

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« Reply #20 on: November 03, 2009, 08:28:01 AM »
Lorenzo, thank you for refreshing my memory with those info you
 narrated, yes, I learned those way back in my schooldays.
I just share  what I learned and anybody can check it out through
 the internet check Dr. Mercola, he is one of the very few
 compassionate medical person known , and  more
 from other sources that I know of.

Here's more that I would like to share to all;
  Mrs Desiree Jennings, 25 years old of Reston, Virginia believed all the hype.
She dutifully got a flu shot to earn healthy living points for her
work health plan. She was in great health- until a few days
after getting her safe and effective shot when she came down
with flu-like symptoms; fever, vomiting, weakness in her legs
and body aches. She got the shot on August 23.

After Labor Day, she was even more fatigued.
She passed out at work and again at home
Her husband took her to the emergency care as she went
into convulsions.
She was transferred to a hospital in Loudoun County, Virginia
where she spent 3 days.

She was transferred to Fairfax Hospital, then to John Hopkins
in Baltimore to see specialists.
She was seen by 60 medical experts, including her
primary care physician, physical therapists, speech therapists
neurologists, psychiatrists and a bevy of nurses.

Desiree can whisper softly but not talk loudly.
She used to run 3K, but now can't walk five feet formally.
She can move sideways and backwards but not forwards.

Her Physical Therapist in John Hopkins diagnosed her
problem as dystonia.
Dystonia is a neurological movement disorder where sustained muscle
contractions cause body jerks and abnormal or
repetitive movements.

To add to the family's misery, Desiree had a
seizure trying to navigate the stairs in her home, she slipped.
Her husband Brendan leaped to catch her and broke his foot.

Wiser now, Desiree and most of her doctors say,
"Don't get the flu shot if you're healthy" and not at risk.

Karon Lunes, and I just finished my long week-end shift,
sad to say pero usa sa akong patients kay 
after having the flu shot didto sa iyang doctor's office
matud sa family niya kay after over a week, she suddenly
became mentally altered, nakalitan ang bana grabe ka yabag
motig-ik usahay abi nako dunay iring sa iyang room.
All the neuro tests that the doctors can think of gibuhat na
but no answer to the family of what is going on.
Wala gyud ko mocomments sa pamilya what I know, I am
defending my job as I said I love to give needles
that's my favorite part of being a nurse.

Flu shots, yes, anyone who wants it just say the word
I will administer it but absolutely not to me  :D
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« Reply #21 on: November 03, 2009, 11:01:26 AM »
Ate Stateville makaralate ko aning story ni Desiree kay akong mother inlaw every year siya magpa shot ug flu shot two years ago human siya gi injectionan pila ka adlaw nasakit siya pare pareha aning ka desiree dugay gud siya adto nakarecover.


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« Reply #22 on: November 03, 2009, 11:12:17 AM »
Raquel maayo kay nakarecover imong mother-in-law
kay bahin ni Desiree nakita baya nako na siya sa
 evening news either  sa Fox news or CNN dili pa kaayo dugay
Looy kaayo tan-awon naglisod gyud siyag barog
bisan naa siyay gihawiran


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« Reply #23 on: November 04, 2009, 11:46:17 AM »
Lorenzo, thank you for refreshing my memory with those info you
 narrated, yes, I learned those way back in my schooldays.
I just share  what I learned and anybody can check it out through
 the internet check Dr. Mercola, he is one of the very few
 compassionate medical person known , and  more
 from other sources that I know of.

Here's more that I would like to share to all;
  Mrs Desiree Jennings, 25 years old of Reston, Virginia believed all the hype.
She dutifully got a flu shot to earn healthy living points for her
work health plan. She was in great health- until a few days
after getting her safe and effective shot when she came down
with flu-like symptoms; fever, vomiting, weakness in her legs
and body aches. She got the shot on August 23.

After Labor Day, she was even more fatigued.
She passed out at work and again at home
Her husband took her to the emergency care as she went
into convulsions.
She was transferred to a hospital in Loudoun County, Virginia
where she spent 3 days.

She was transferred to Fairfax Hospital, then to John Hopkins
in Baltimore to see specialists.
She was seen by 60 medical experts, including her
primary care physician, physical therapists, speech therapists
neurologists, psychiatrists and a bevy of nurses.

Desiree can whisper softly but not talk loudly.
She used to run 3K, but now can't walk five feet formally.
She can move sideways and backwards but not forwards.

Her Physical Therapist in John Hopkins diagnosed her
problem as dystonia.
Dystonia is a neurological movement disorder where sustained muscle
contractions cause body jerks and abnormal or
repetitive movements.

To add to the family's misery, Desiree had a
seizure trying to navigate the stairs in her home, she slipped.
Her husband Brendan leaped to catch her and broke his foot.

Wiser now, Desiree and most of her doctors say,
"Don't get the flu shot if you're healthy" and not at risk.

Karon Lunes, and I just finished my long week-end shift,
sad to say pero usa sa akong patients kay 
after having the flu shot didto sa iyang doctor's office
matud sa family niya kay after over a week, she suddenly
became mentally altered, nakalitan ang bana grabe ka yabag
motig-ik usahay abi nako dunay iring sa iyang room.
All the neuro tests that the doctors can think of gibuhat na
but no answer to the family of what is going on.
Wala gyud ko mocomments sa pamilya what I know, I am
defending my job as I said I love to give needles
that's my favorite part of being a nurse.

Flu shots, yes, anyone who wants it just say the word
I will administer it but absolutely not to me  :D
Hmnnnn interesting


Ma'am,

It is a pleasure to exchange ideas, and information with you here. I take highly into consideration your point of view and your veteran experience as an R.N. In fact, I had a conversation with my own mother about Swine Flu while she was here last week visiting me, and my own mom who is a a veteran ICU Nurse for over 25 years agrees with me. She is hesitant on live vaccines, but accepting regarding attenuated vaccinations.

As physicians, we are encouraged and trained not just to educate our patients about different forms of vaccination programs, but are also encouraged to be injected with all vaccinations for hospital exposure sakes.

Thank you for your post, I read it and take it into serious light. Again, always good and enlightening to read the words of our skilled nurses.


Respectfully Yours,
A. Lorenzo
MD2

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