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« on: September 15, 2009, 08:46:33 AM »
Pope Benedict to meet contemporary artists
By Eliza Apperly

VATICAN CITY (Reuters Life!) - Pope Benedict plans to meet up to 500 artists from around the world in November, as part of efforts to turn the page on the Vatican's sometimes conflicted relationship with the contemporary art world.

The Vatican said the gathering, to be held at the Sistine Chapel on Nov. 21, is intended as the first step towards a "new and fertile alliance between art and faith", while the Vatican Museums Director Antonio Paolucci said it could mark a sort of "reconciliation after the great divorce".

The invitee list includes artists from across five continents ranging from painters, sculptors and architects to poets and directors.

The guests were picked regardless of religious, political or stylistic allegiances, said Archbishop Gianfranco Ravasi, president of the Pontifical Council for Culture.

Around 75 artists have already agreed to attend, including Oscar-winning composer Ennio Morricone and avant-garde American stage director Bob Wilson.

The event will mark both the 10th anniversary of Pope John Paul II's 'Letter to Artists' in 1999 in which he spoke of the Church's "need for art" in painting, architecture and music and the 45th anniversary of Pope Paul VI's original meeting with artists in 1964.

Pope Paul VI, whose papacy ran from 1963 to 1978, had a passionate interest in contemporary art and was responsible for inaugurating the Vatican Museum's department of Modern Religious and Contemporary Art in 1973.

The collection, often overlooked by tourists, includes works by Auguste Rodin, Wassily Kandinsky, Pablo Picasso and Marc Chagall.

But works like Martin Kippenberger's crucified frog Zuerst Die Fuesse and Paolo Schmidlin's Miss Kitty--which portrays the Pope in drag--have soured relations between the faithful and the contemporary art world in recent decades.

Schmidlin's sculpture was withdrawn from an exhibition in Milan two years ago after the Catholic Anti-Defamation League expressed outrage and threatened to seek charges against the show's organizers for defaming a head of state.

But the rupture between art and faith is "incomprehensible", given the extensive prior collaboration between artists and the Church -- not least during the Renaissance, Paolucci said.

In a sign of renewed efforts towards such a reconciliation, the Vatican earlier this year also announced it will participate in the 2011 Venice Biennale, one of the world's major art festivals held every two years.

At the time, Ravasi ruled out opening a Biennale pavilion alongside more provocative participants, but underlined the "necessity of dialogue" with artists in the "absence of a contemporary language of sacred art".



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« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2009, 08:53:46 AM »
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« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2009, 08:43:03 PM »
But works like Martin Kippenberger's crucified frog Zuerst Die Fuesse and Paolo Schmidlin's Miss Kitty--which portrays the Pope in drag--have soured relations between the faithful and the contemporary art world in recent decades.

What the church hierarchy has failed to understand is that there is something divine about frogs and that there is something feminine about religion--which has nothing to do with the validity of anyone's religious experience at all.

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« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2009, 06:52:36 AM »
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i so move that they should compare notes of failures between these artists and the Church

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« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2009, 08:36:10 AM »
Thanks for the pics, Bay Glace!

Indeed, it's difficult to draw the line between artistic freedom and blasphemy. Despite periods of chummy collaboration, Art and the Church do seem to somehow represent opposite human impulses.


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« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2009, 11:43:18 PM »
i remember a documentary about those paintings and statues in the vatican, how one church leader ordered to paint over those paintings of men and women with revealing sex organs on the ceiling and remove the dicks of the statues sticking out along the corridor.

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« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2009, 06:15:58 AM »

I guess you're referring to the Sistine Chapel.

The chapel was decorated by many artists, but the most famous decoration was of the ceiling, which the great Michelangelo painted with nude figures from the Bible and classical mythology. The so-called "fig-leaf campaign" succeeded in covering some controversial anatomical details.   

When I was in the Vatican a few years ago it was the Sistine Chapel that I went to see first.

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Bantog kay gamay jamo kining iyang ibong sawi, aron tingali dili ma hot ang magtan-aw!


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« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2009, 09:56:07 PM »
manghinaut lang ta Manay, nga inig-balik nas ilang maayong kabobot-on, ibalik sab tong orihinal nga gidak-on anang iyaha sa statuwa.

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Bantog kay gamay jamo kining iyang ibong sawi, aron tingali dili ma hot ang magtan-aw!

Wa pa na siya tulia Manay mao gamay pa jamo. ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2009, 10:26:16 PM »
gamay diay og way tuli, candi. hehehe. mura...kini ra ubang mga puti kay way tuli, nanagko man pod lagi.

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« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2009, 02:20:45 AM »
tikti-kon ;D


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« Reply #12 on: September 22, 2009, 02:23:06 AM »
waahahahahhaha

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« Reply #13 on: September 22, 2009, 02:34:39 AM »
kidding aside, this is one of the reasons why women gets lots of troubles including urinary tract infections, bacterial infections sa ug uban pa kay ang mga puti pisot! Busa ang akong anak akong gipatuli.

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« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2009, 01:23:27 AM »

women in Germany manay, mao pod nay ilang kasinatian?


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« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2009, 05:53:56 PM »
Yes, this is very prevalent here!

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« Reply #16 on: September 27, 2009, 10:09:42 AM »

pisot diay ning mga German? hehehe. bantog kay isog. peace...

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« Reply #17 on: September 27, 2009, 06:48:21 PM »

glace, namili gjod ko ug tinuli..aho sang gihuling ug una gjod!  ahong anak ahong gipatuli pod. so, wa nay tik-tikon diri.


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« Reply #18 on: September 27, 2009, 09:37:40 PM »

maayo kay gapahuling...hehehe. nindto jud nang maniguro daan, bambs. aron way magmahay.



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